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[[WMG: Yu was actually quite popular at his other school]]
In the second cutscene, there's a flashback to where Yu's former teacher announces that he's going to Inaba for his second year. A lot of the reactions from his classmates were that of disappointed. It's likely that he already had great social skills and charisma, which he used to his advantage when it came to forming social links and making new friends in general.
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[[WMG: Teddie WasOnceAMan]]
Teddie was born as a normal human some time some time after whenever TVs were invented (1930s?). As a child, he found out that he could enter the Midnight Channel and became fascinated by it. He ended up meeting his Shadow, but instead of rejecting it, he thought of it more as an imaginary friend. When he had free time, he would sneak into the Midnight Channel to play with Shadow!Teddie and then return home before his parents got suspicious. Eventually, he came to the decision to stay in the Midnight Channel forever. The reasons for this may vary; maybe he grew up in an abusive (or at least neglectful) household. Maybe he was scared of growing up. Maybe there was a life-changing event that he was unable to cope with. Or maybe he just thought his life was boring. Either way, he fled to the Midnight Channel for good.
In addition to learning more about the he quickly figured out what Shadows were, so to protect himself, he and his Shadow "fused" to become one person. Over time though, he lost his memories of his former life but retained his childlike behavior. Him facing his Shadow can be explained by the fact that he and his Shadow had briefly become separate due to Teddie's emotional struggles with being an amnesiac. Afterwards, he got a little bit of his memory back, but not enough to answer his questions. That memory was of his appearance as a human. His human form is based on what he believed he would have looked like if he had become a normal human adolescent in an attempt to mirror his friends.
Teddie was born as a normal human some time some time after whenever TVs were invented (1930s?). As a child, he found out that he could enter the Midnight Channel and became fascinated by it. He ended up meeting his Shadow, but instead of rejecting it, he thought of it more as an imaginary friend. When he had free time, he would sneak into the Midnight Channel to play with Shadow!Teddie and then return home before his parents got suspicious. Eventually, he came to the decision to stay in the Midnight Channel forever. The reasons for this may vary; maybe he grew up in an abusive (or at least neglectful) household. Maybe he was scared of growing up. Maybe there was a life-changing event that he was unable to cope with. Or maybe he just thought his life was boring. Either way, he fled to the Midnight Channel for good.
In addition to learning more about the he quickly figured out what Shadows were, so to protect himself, he and his Shadow "fused" to become one person. Over time though, he lost his memories of his former life but retained his childlike behavior. Him facing his Shadow can be explained by the fact that he and his Shadow had briefly become separate due to Teddie's emotional struggles with being an amnesiac. Afterwards, he got a little bit of his memory back, but not enough to answer his questions. That memory was of his appearance as a human. His human form is based on what he believed he would have looked like if he had become a normal human adolescent in an attempt to mirror his friends.
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[[spoiler: You couldn't quit while you were ahead, could you, big bro?]]
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[[WMG: [Spoiler: Nanako] as the true culprit all along.]]
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[[WMG: [Spoiler: Nanako] as [[spoiler:Nanako]] was the true culprit all along.]]
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[[WMG: [[Spoiler: Nanako]] was the true culprit all along.]]
They even manipulated God. They controlled every single event and you didn't even know.
Maybe [[Spoiler: Adachi]] realized they were the real culprit and tried to stop them themselves, only to get beaten by the party.
They even manipulated God. They controlled every single event and you didn't even know.
Maybe [[Spoiler: Adachi]] realized they were the real culprit and tried to stop them themselves, only to get beaten by the party.
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[[MG: Nanako grows up to become the singer in all of the persona 4 songs.]]
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*Aw Man
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*Then the mother wouldn't be dead since Ash's mother is alive. This wasn't really meant to be taken seriously, but that has stopped nobody.
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*But hey, thats just a theory. A GAME THEORY
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* It explains why he had no friends back in his hometown. Japanese society values comformity above all else and Yu's supposed autism keeps him from fitting in with the crowd.
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[[WMG: Marie is the daughter of [[VideoGame/{{Persona}} Maki and the Protagonist]] ]]
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[[WMG: Marie is the daughter of [[VideoGame/{{Persona}} [[VideoGame/{{Persona1}} Maki and the Protagonist]] ]]
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* Or he could be bisexul.
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*** [[Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub For the sake of convenience, ignore all time inconsistencies]], and assume a silver-haired boy was born from rumors that were accidentally spread.
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*** [[Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub For the sake of convenience, ignore all time inconsistencies]], and assume a silver-haired boy was born randomly born/created from rumors that were accidentally spread.
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*** [[Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub For the sake of convenience, ignore all time inconsistencies]], and assume he was born from rumors that were accidentally spread.
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*** [[Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub For the sake of convenience, ignore all time inconsistencies]], and assume he a silver-haired boy was born from rumors that were accidentally spread.
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There will be another crossover with Capcom, like Nocturne, except that it will involve another addition to the story, not a side quest to get a new party member/Persona (Although getting [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Sparda]] as a Persona would be cool). Now, it can work as one of two ways, either a short television appearance/reference to their Japanese names, or a full blown unlockable minigame where you have to get involve, getting either MC/Narukami/Seta or [[Franchise/AceAttorney Miles Edgeworth]] to convict [[spoiler: Mitsuo or Adachi]], or even get Phoenix to defend [[spoiler: Nametame]] or the MC from murder charges. Oh, come on, wouldn't it be awesome to have either Phoenix or Miles fighting Shadows with either Maya or Pearl as support? [[spoiler: Also, Yosuke and Naoki could get closure by speaking to Saki.]]
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There will be another crossover with Capcom, like Nocturne, except that it will involve another addition to the story, not a side quest to get a new party member/Persona (Although getting [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Sparda]] as a Persona would be cool). Now, it can work as one of two ways, either a short television appearance/reference to their Japanese names, or a full blown unlockable minigame where you have to get involve, getting either MC/Narukami/Seta or [[Franchise/AceAttorney Miles Edgeworth]] to convict [[spoiler: Mitsuo or Adachi]], or even get Phoenix to defend [[spoiler: Nametame]] or the MC from murder charges. Oh, come on, wouldn't it be awesome to have either Phoenix or Miles fighting Shadows with either Maya ([[NamesTheSame Fey]]) or Pearl as support? [[spoiler: Also, Yosuke and Naoki could get closure by speaking to Saki.]]
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*** [[Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub For the sake of convenience, ignore all time inconsistencies.]]inconsistencies]], and assume he was born from rumors that were accidentally spread.
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* The crew of P3 both had to use their evokers and didn't have to use their evokers to summon their persona. They had to be scared enough for the persona to finally come out. Maybe the P4 crew were constantly afraid of the Shadows and, considering this "is" the world of Shadows / Personas, their personas could be summoned by just breaking a tarot card... [[YouFailPhysicsForever er, somehow...]] due to the amount of fear that would probably have their personas be popping out every five seconds. Doesn't quite explain the whole Shadow business, though.
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* The crew of P3 both had to use their evokers and didn't have to use their evokers to summon their persona. They had to be scared enough for the persona to finally come out. Maybe the P4 crew were constantly afraid of the Shadows and, considering this "is" the world of Shadows / Personas, their personas could be summoned by just breaking a tarot card... [[YouFailPhysicsForever [[ArtisticLicensePhysics er, somehow...]] due to the amount of fear that would probably have their personas be popping out every five seconds. Doesn't quite explain the whole Shadow business, though.
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'''My opinions are right and all the garbage just hides the fact that I'm openly tearing down something I don't like and NO I WILL NOT TAKE IT TO THE FORUMS!!! And why shouldn't I? So what if there isn't a page for CartwheelingDynamitePuppy; there should be damnit, even if I have to pimp it to high heaven! Who are they to say what is and isn't A Trope?! "Some Tropers think...Your Milage May Vary But...Please exercise RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement when blah blah blah blah blah blah!" That weasel talk makes me sick!! Why shouldn't I say exactly what's on my mind?! MINE is the only opinion that matters!!!'''
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'''My opinions are right and all the garbage just hides the fact that I'm openly tearing down something I don't like and NO I WILL NOT TAKE IT TO THE FORUMS!!! And why shouldn't I? So what if there isn't a page for CartwheelingDynamitePuppy; there should be damnit, even if I have to pimp it to high heaven! Who are they to say what is and isn't A Trope?! "Some Tropers think...Your Milage May Vary But...Please exercise RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment when blah blah blah blah blah blah!" That weasel talk makes me sick!! Why shouldn't I say exactly what's on my mind?! MINE is the only opinion that matters!!!'''
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*** Especially [[ReverseTrap [[{{Bifauxnen}} the]] [[LesYay girls]].
* Pretty much confirmed,yosuke Yosuke was originally gonna be a romantic social linklink.
* Pretty much confirmed,
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Let's think about this for a second. We all know that Teddie was created as a result of a Shadow becoming in-sync with human loneliness, but he never states how many humans it took. Shadow Yosuke's gimmick was that its creator's greatest fear was to be alone. Somewhere between Yosuke going to Inaba and gaining Jiraiya as his Persona, Pre-bear Teddie became attuned to Yosuke's loneliness, and became the cutesy, lovable, HandsomeLech who gets a CrowningMomentofAwesome with his LastStand (even if it's a subverted LastStand)
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Let's think about this for a second. We all know that Teddie was created as a result of a Shadow becoming in-sync with human loneliness, but he never states how many humans it took. Shadow Yosuke's gimmick was that its creator's greatest fear was to be alone. Somewhere between Yosuke going to Inaba and gaining Jiraiya as his Persona, Pre-bear Teddie became attuned to Yosuke's loneliness, and became the cutesy, lovable, HandsomeLech who gets a CrowningMomentofAwesome SugarWiki/MomentofAwesome with his LastStand (even if it's a subverted LastStand)
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** Yu (Protagonist), Yosuke, Kanji and Teddie have their [[CrowningMomentOfFunny cross-dressing costumes]] from the school's crossdressing competition.
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** Yu (Protagonist), Yosuke, Kanji and Teddie have their [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments cross-dressing costumes]] from the school's crossdressing competition.
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There will be another crossover with Capcom, like Nocturne, except that it will involve another addition to the story, not a side quest to get a new party member/Persona (Although getting [[Franchise/DevilMayCry [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Sparda]] as a Persona would be cool). Now, it can work as one of two ways, either a short television appearance/reference to their Japanese names, or a full blown unlockable minigame where you have to get involve, getting either MC/Narukami/Seta or [[Franchise/AceAttorney Miles Edgeworth]] to convict [[spoiler: Mitsuo or Adachi]], or even get Phoenix to defend [[spoiler: Nametame]] or the MC from murder charges. Oh, come on, wouldn't it be awesome to have either Phoenix or Miles fighting Shadows with either Maya or Pearl as support? [[spoiler: Also, Yosuke and Naoki could get closure by speaking to Saki.]]
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For example: Yousuke is strong with wind AKA Communication, which shows most strongly in how he's usually the one that gets the gang together, and how he manages to avoid answering whenever people start asking questions about his shadow.
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For example: Yousuke Yosuke is strong with wind AKA Communication, which shows most strongly in how he's usually the one that gets the gang together, and how he manages to avoid answering whenever people start asking questions about his shadow.
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By the time you finish his social link, Yousuke learns not to be quite so childish (thus minimising his weakness) and also gains the proper motivation to keep on fighting, thus explaining the otherwise odd resistance against Fire (AKA willpower).
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By the time you finish his social link, Yousuke Yosuke learns not to be quite so childish (thus minimising his weakness) and also gains the proper motivation to keep on fighting, thus explaining the otherwise odd resistance against Fire (AKA willpower).
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[[WMG:Igor is in fact, an alternate version of ''Main/ShinMegamiTensei'' Lucifer, who has decided the best way to rebel is to prevent humanity from destroying themselves. He's going to make them earn it, though.]]
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[[WMG:Igor is in fact, an alternate version of ''Main/ShinMegamiTensei'' ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' Lucifer, who has decided the best way to rebel is to prevent humanity from destroying themselves. He's going to make them earn it, though.]]
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*** It does work with the whole "Philemon told Lucifer about YHWH" WMG in the ShinMegamiTensei section. I mean, if he and Nyarlathotep are rivals, that would mean that he and YHWH are rivals too. He probably made Igor just to get even and stuff.
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*** It does work with the whole "Philemon told Lucifer about YHWH" WMG in the ShinMegamiTensei ''Shin Megami Tensei'' section. I mean, if he and Nyarlathotep are rivals, that would mean that he and YHWH are rivals too. He probably made Igor just to get even and stuff.
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In order to change mankind forever and rescue the protagonist of ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}''. This will result in a "positive" [[ShinMegamiTensei conception]] resolution.
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In order to change mankind forever and rescue the protagonist of ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}''. This will result in a "positive" [[ShinMegamiTensei [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei conception]] resolution.
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* That's a pretty awful DiabolusExMachina, even if it's to make Persona 4 fit in with ShinMegamiTensei.''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei''.
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** That doesn't rule out the possibility that he could be bisexual.
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* Jossed.
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Kanji's main struggle is not his sexuality, is being seem as unmanly. Sure he may have entertained the idea he was into guys because liking things like sewing and such are considered to be signs of being gay. However it is only his encounter with Naoto Shirogane, for whom he immediately develops an attraction, that he may have ACTUALLY believe he was gay. Let's face it, [[EvenTheGirlsWantHer who]] [[EvenTheGuysWantHim isn't]] [[SweetPollyOliver gay]] [[TallDarkAndBishoujo for]] [[BuxomIsBetter Naoto?]] Had Naoto not approached Kanji befor he got kidnapped, the dungeon might have been some manner of doll house(with an Alice bonus boss) and his Shadow would have probably mocked him for liking dolls more than people or something.
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Kanji's main struggle is not his sexuality, is being seem as unmanly. Sure he may have entertained the idea he was into guys because liking things like sewing and such are considered to be signs of being gay. However it is only his encounter with Naoto Shirogane, for whom he immediately develops an attraction, that he may have ACTUALLY believe he was gay. Let's face it, [[EvenTheGirlsWantHer who]] [[EvenTheGuysWantHim isn't]] [[SweetPollyOliver gay]] [[TallDarkAndBishoujo [[AloofDarkHairedGirl for]] [[BuxomIsBetter Naoto?]] Had Naoto not approached Kanji befor he got kidnapped, the dungeon might have been some manner of doll house(with an Alice bonus boss) and his Shadow would have probably mocked him for liking dolls more than people or something.
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'''How long are you planning on denying it? Beneath your thin veneer of snarky sophistication your true desires are laid plain before me. Who hasn't secretly pimped their own FanWork under pseudonyms and puppet accounts? Don't you feel the need to rant and rave about asininely stupid programming that everyone else seems to fawn over? The JustBugsMe pages for Literature/{{Twilight}} and Literature/InheritanceCycle alone allude to your true nature.'''
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'''How long are you planning on denying it? Beneath your thin veneer of snarky sophistication your true desires are laid plain before me. Who hasn't secretly pimped their own FanWork under pseudonyms and puppet accounts? Don't you feel the need to rant and rave about asininely stupid programming that everyone else seems to fawn over? The JustBugsMe Headscratchers pages for Literature/{{Twilight}} and Literature/InheritanceCycle alone allude to your true nature.'''
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** [[PowersThatBe The Divine]] in [CarlJung Jungian Psychology] is basically supposed to be the source of all existence, the truth, and the very center of the human soul, from which the true self, what a person's best possible self (being perfectly good) comes from. Really puts a new meaning to 'Pursue Your True Self', eh?
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** [[PowersThatBe The Divine]] in [CarlJung [UsefulNotes/CarlJung Jungian Psychology] is basically supposed to be the source of all existence, the truth, and the very center of the human soul, from which the true self, what a person's best possible self (being perfectly good) comes from. Really puts a new meaning to 'Pursue Your True Self', eh?
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RYNOROSSFILMS: Ladies and gentlemen, a story for you: As you all know [[VideoGame/{{F-Zero}} Captain Falcon]] died in that epic paunch and his position was taken over by the [[ReplacementScrappy less awesome]] [[VideoGame/{{F-Zero}} Rick Wheeler]]. The truth, however, was that Captain Falcon was reincarnated. His reincarnation later beat the living shit out of Rick and took back his rightful position.
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RYNOROSSFILMS: Ladies and gentlemen, a story for you: As you all know [[VideoGame/{{F-Zero}} [[VideoGame/FZero Captain Falcon]] died in that epic paunch and his position was taken over by the [[ReplacementScrappy less awesome]] [[VideoGame/{{F-Zero}} [[VideoGame/FZero Rick Wheeler]]. The truth, however, was that Captain Falcon was reincarnated. His reincarnation later beat the living shit out of Rick and took back his rightful position.
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... So ridiculously cheap and hard that even the worst Creator/ArcSystemWorks had brought out thus far ([[VideoGame/GuiltyGear GG Justice, GGX Dizzy, GGX2 I-No]], [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Unlimited Nu, Unlimited Ragna, Unlimited Hazama, Mu-12]]) COMBINED will still wince in fear. Because when you have [[{{Atlus}} a company]] known for their massive ThatOneBoss collection MAKE a fighting game... it's bound to happen.
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... So ridiculously cheap and hard that even the worst Creator/ArcSystemWorks had brought out thus far ([[VideoGame/GuiltyGear GG Justice, GGX Dizzy, GGX2 I-No]], [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Unlimited Nu, Unlimited Ragna, Unlimited Hazama, Mu-12]]) COMBINED will still wince in fear. Because when you have [[{{Atlus}} [[Creator/{{Atlus}} a company]] known for their massive ThatOneBoss collection MAKE a fighting game... it's bound to happen.