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It's been implied that The Demon made a pact with their ancestors who wanted to get rich. Beatrice made a pact with Kinzo so he could get rich. It's been implied that The Demon did it ForTheEvulz. Beatrice also did it ForTheEvulz (most of the time, anyway), making the both of them troll. And of course, you couldn't forget that both series are based around KillThemAll concept! You can't deny this: [[color:blue:The Demon of the Paranormal Activity and The Golden Witch Beatrice from VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry]] [[strike:are the murderer]] [[color:blue:are one and the same!!]]
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It's been implied that The Demon made a pact with their ancestors who wanted to get rich. Beatrice made a pact with Kinzo so he could get rich. It's been implied that The Demon did it ForTheEvulz. Beatrice also did it ForTheEvulz (most of the time, anyway), making the both of them troll. And of course, you couldn't forget that both series are based around KillThemAll concept! killing! You can't deny this: [[color:blue:The Demon of the Paranormal Activity and The Golden Witch Beatrice from VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry]] [[strike:are the murderer]] [[color:blue:are one and the same!!]]
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Father Todd mentions that he got the information about [[spoiler:the Extermination Ritual]] from a source outside the Church that he wasn't entirely sure he trusted. That source was the elusive demonologist Doctor Johann.
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Father Todd mentions that he got the information about [[spoiler:the Extermination Ritual]] from a source outside the Church that he wasn't entirely sure he trusted. That source was the elusive demonologist Doctor Johann.Johann.
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** So he's Marconi from JohnDiesAtTheEnd.
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** So he's Marconi from JohnDiesAtTheEnd.Literature/JohnDiesAtTheEnd.
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[[WMG: The Demon is [[CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep.]]]]
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[[WMG: The Demon is [[CthulhuMythos [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep.]]]]
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[[WMG: [[SlenderManMythos The Slender Man]] is the Demon.]]
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[[WMG: [[SlenderManMythos [[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos The Slender Man]] is the Demon.]]
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[[WMG: This movie takes place in the past of the Warhammer40000 universe.]]
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[[WMG: This movie takes place in the past of the Warhammer40000 TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 universe.]]
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It's been implied that The Demon made a pact with their ancestors who wanted to get rich. Beatrice made a pact with Kinzo so he could get rich. It's been implied that The Demon did it ForTheEvulz. Beatrice also did it ForTheEvulz (most of the time, anyway), making the both of them troll. And of course, you couldn't forget that both series are based around KillThemAll concept! You can't deny this: [[color:blue:The Demon of the ParanormalActivity and The Golden Witch Beatrice from VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry]] [[strike:are the murderer]] [[color:blue:are one and the same!!]]
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It's been implied that The Demon made a pact with their ancestors who wanted to get rich. Beatrice made a pact with Kinzo so he could get rich. It's been implied that The Demon did it ForTheEvulz. Beatrice also did it ForTheEvulz (most of the time, anyway), making the both of them troll. And of course, you couldn't forget that both series are based around KillThemAll concept! You can't deny this: [[color:blue:The Demon of the ParanormalActivity Paranormal Activity and The Golden Witch Beatrice from VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry]] [[strike:are the murderer]] [[color:blue:are one and the same!!]]
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** And the Daemon answering to Toby is in fact a very specific Daemon - M'kar the Thriceborn; he goes through three forms, uses a cult to construct his form, needs blood sacrifice to manifest, and even still has tricks up his sleeve involving possession. His end game, fittingly, is to let himself be manifested in the Materium.
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** And the Daemon answering to Toby in the latest movie is in fact a very specific Daemon - M'kar the Thriceborn; he goes through three forms, uses a cult to construct his form, needs blood sacrifice to manifest, and even still has tricks up his sleeve involving possession. His end game, fittingly, is to let himself be manifested in the Materium.
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** And the Daemon answering to Toby is in fact a very specific Daemon - M'kar the Thriceborn; he goes through three forms, uses a cult to construct his form, needs blood sacrifice to manifest, and even still has tricks up his sleeve involving possession. His end game, fittingly, is to let himself be manifested in the Materium.
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[[WMG: The Demon is actually a witch: [[UminekonoNakuKoroNi The Golden Witch Beatrice]]]]
It's been implied that The Demon made a pact with their ancestors who wanted to get rich. Beatrice made a pact with Kinzo so he could get rich. It's been implied that The Demon did it ForTheEvulz. Beatrice also did it ForTheEvulz (most of the time, anyway), making the both of them troll. And of course, you couldn't forget that both series are based around KillThemAll concept! You can't deny this: [[color:blue:The Demon of the ParanormalActivity and The Golden Witch Beatrice from UminekonoNakuKoroNi]] [[strike:are the murderer]] [[color:blue:are one and the same!!]]
It's been implied that The Demon made a pact with their ancestors who wanted to get rich. Beatrice made a pact with Kinzo so he could get rich. It's been implied that The Demon did it ForTheEvulz. Beatrice also did it ForTheEvulz (most of the time, anyway), making the both of them troll. And of course, you couldn't forget that both series are based around KillThemAll concept! You can't deny this: [[color:blue:The Demon of the ParanormalActivity and The Golden Witch Beatrice from UminekonoNakuKoroNi]] [[strike:are the murderer]] [[color:blue:are one and the same!!]]
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[[WMG: The Demon is actually a witch: [[UminekonoNakuKoroNi [[VIsualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry The Golden Witch Beatrice]]]]
It's been implied that The Demon made a pact with their ancestors who wanted to get rich. Beatrice made a pact with Kinzo so he could get rich. It's been implied that The Demon did it ForTheEvulz. Beatrice also did it ForTheEvulz (most of the time, anyway), making the both of them troll. And of course, you couldn't forget that both series are based around KillThemAll concept! You can't deny this: [[color:blue:The Demon of the ParanormalActivity and The Golden Witch Beatrice fromUminekonoNakuKoroNi]] VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry]] [[strike:are the murderer]] [[color:blue:are one and the same!!]]
It's been implied that The Demon made a pact with their ancestors who wanted to get rich. Beatrice made a pact with Kinzo so he could get rich. It's been implied that The Demon did it ForTheEvulz. Beatrice also did it ForTheEvulz (most of the time, anyway), making the both of them troll. And of course, you couldn't forget that both series are based around KillThemAll concept! You can't deny this: [[color:blue:The Demon of the ParanormalActivity and The Golden Witch Beatrice from
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* [[spoiler:Partially Confirmed, but it happens in the 6th movie ''The Ghost Dimension''. It is shown that there is an Extermination Ritual that can destroy a demon. The protagonists try it but fail.]]
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The witches made their pact with the demon for wealth and power, so it makes sense that it would be a manifestation of greed itself. Greed gives the demon more power, and in modern times, it finds itself particularly empowered by and drawn to the showy luxuries of its targets, such as their hoards of expensive cameras.
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The witches made their pact with the demon for wealth and power, so it makes sense that it would be a manifestation of greed itself. Greed gives the demon more power, and in modern times, it finds itself particularly empowered by and drawn to the showy luxuries of its targets, such as their hoards of expensive cameras.cameras.
[[WMG: Doctor Johann was Father Todd's "source outside the Church" ]]
Father Todd mentions that he got the information about [[spoiler:the Extermination Ritual]] from a source outside the Church that he wasn't entirely sure he trusted. That source was the elusive demonologist Doctor Johann.
[[WMG: Doctor Johann was Father Todd's "source outside the Church" ]]
Father Todd mentions that he got the information about [[spoiler:the Extermination Ritual]] from a source outside the Church that he wasn't entirely sure he trusted. That source was the elusive demonologist Doctor Johann.
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*** Supposedly 3 AM is the magic time because it is the opposite of 3 PM, which was (traditionally) the hour of Jesus's death on the cross, so this is when demons appear to mock the faithful. [[TheExorcismOfEmilyRose Or so Ian Holm told me...]]
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*** Supposedly 3 AM is the magic time because it is the opposite of 3 PM, which was (traditionally) the hour of Jesus's death on the cross, so this is when demons appear to mock the faithful. [[TheExorcismOfEmilyRose [[Film/TheExorcismOfEmilyRose Or so Ian Holm told me...]]
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Each time he is filmed, the proof of him helps to fortify his existence and makes him more capable of affecting the world. Eventually he will be able to take a visible, solid form that can interact infinitely with the material plane.
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Each time he is filmed, the proof of him helps to fortify his existence and makes him more capable of affecting the world. Eventually he will be able to take a visible, solid form that can interact infinitely with the material plane.plane.
[[WMG: The demon is a spiritual embodiment of greed, particularly fond of materialism.]]
The witches made their pact with the demon for wealth and power, so it makes sense that it would be a manifestation of greed itself. Greed gives the demon more power, and in modern times, it finds itself particularly empowered by and drawn to the showy luxuries of its targets, such as their hoards of expensive cameras.
[[WMG: The demon is a spiritual embodiment of greed, particularly fond of materialism.]]
The witches made their pact with the demon for wealth and power, so it makes sense that it would be a manifestation of greed itself. Greed gives the demon more power, and in modern times, it finds itself particularly empowered by and drawn to the showy luxuries of its targets, such as their hoards of expensive cameras.
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The demon is her subconsciousness, warped by her delusional grandmother's ritualistic abuse.
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The demon is her subconsciousness, warped by her delusional grandmother's ritualistic abuse.abuse.
[[WMG: Documentation is important to summoning the demon.]]
Each time he is filmed, the proof of him helps to fortify his existence and makes him more capable of affecting the world. Eventually he will be able to take a visible, solid form that can interact infinitely with the material plane.
[[WMG: Documentation is important to summoning the demon.]]
Each time he is filmed, the proof of him helps to fortify his existence and makes him more capable of affecting the world. Eventually he will be able to take a visible, solid form that can interact infinitely with the material plane.
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*** The fifth film has [[spoiler: a scene where an older Ali speaks to the protagonists about what she went through.]]
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[[WMG: The first movie is a metaphor for alcoholism (among other forms of addiction)]]
First off, Micah doesn't acknowledge the severity of the problem and treats it like a game. The fact that it doesn't immediately destroy his relationship with Katie further enables his carelessness, effectively making the demon more active. Micah's will to play with the demon (demonstrated by his renting of a Ouija board after it was made clear earlier in the movie that this would provoke the demon) strongly resembles the beginnings of drunkenness. That is, extreme sense of cockiness enabled by both the substance at work and the belief that "this stuff isn't even phasing me!" Eventually he can't seem to be able to get his way out of this situation he got himself into. It costs him the trust and respect of his girlfriend and ultimately his life.
First off, Micah doesn't acknowledge the severity of the problem and treats it like a game. The fact that it doesn't immediately destroy his relationship with Katie further enables his carelessness, effectively making the demon more active. Micah's will to play with the demon (demonstrated by his renting of a Ouija board after it was made clear earlier in the movie that this would provoke the demon) strongly resembles the beginnings of drunkenness. That is, extreme sense of cockiness enabled by both the substance at work and the belief that "this stuff isn't even phasing me!" Eventually he can't seem to be able to get his way out of this situation he got himself into. It costs him the trust and respect of his girlfriend and ultimately his life.
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[[WMG: The reason the demon goes after Katie is because her family possesses a [[TheDresdenFiles Denarian coin.]]]]
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[[WMG: The reason the demon goes after Katie is because her family possesses a [[TheDresdenFiles [[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Denarian coin.]]]]
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* Alternatively, [[spoiler:The Marked Ones shows that the Coven keeps a young blonde prisoner in the stables of Lois’s house. This could be Alex.]]
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Given the series, I wouldn't be surprised.
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Given the series, I wouldn't be surprised.surprised.
[[WMG: Katie is telekinetic.]]
The demon is her subconsciousness, warped by her delusional grandmother's ritualistic abuse.
[[WMG: Katie is telekinetic.]]
The demon is her subconsciousness, warped by her delusional grandmother's ritualistic abuse.
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The demon comes from the Warp, (explaining it's alien footprints and dickish behavior,) and Dr. Johan is the Emperor (also BatMan).
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The demon comes from the Warp, (explaining it's alien footprints and dickish behavior,) and Dr. Johan is the Emperor (also BatMan).Franchise/{{Batman}}).
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In number 3, Toby [[spoiler: crawls under Katie's covers, stands over her, lifting the sheets, and then sinks down. Where on her? Slightly below her stomach. Maybe doing so allowed him to see/feel/sense something wrong down there, like some form of damage or disease that would make her unable to produce any children at all, thus causing him to follow Kristi around until Hunter was born. However, tying in with another WMG, her maternal instincts beat out the possessed urge to take him away, and the exorcism forced him to use Katie as his pawn.]]
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In number 3, Toby [[spoiler: crawls under Katie's covers, stands over her, lifting the sheets, and then sinks down. Where on her? Slightly below her stomach. Maybe doing so allowed him to see/feel/sense something wrong down there, like some form of damage or disease that would make her unable to produce any children at all, thus causing him to follow Kristi around until Hunter was born. However, tying in with another WMG, her maternal instincts beat out the possessed urge to take him away, and the exorcism forced him to use Katie as his pawn.]]]]
[[WMG: When Doctor Johan appears, it will turn out he's a FakeUltimateHero.]]
Given the series, I wouldn't be surprised.
[[WMG: When Doctor Johan appears, it will turn out he's a FakeUltimateHero.]]
Given the series, I wouldn't be surprised.
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While maybe not the same demon, Robbie was a familiar of Toby's who was able to take a physical form and mark Hunter. Once he was done with his work, he was kicked out.
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While maybe not the same demon, Robbie was a familiar of Toby's who was able to take a physical form and mark Hunter. Once he was done with his work, he was kicked out.out.
[[WMG: The demon's original target to [[spoiler: produce a son was Katie, but she had an undiagnosed condition that made her infertile.]] ]]
In number 3, Toby [[spoiler: crawls under Katie's covers, stands over her, lifting the sheets, and then sinks down. Where on her? Slightly below her stomach. Maybe doing so allowed him to see/feel/sense something wrong down there, like some form of damage or disease that would make her unable to produce any children at all, thus causing him to follow Kristi around until Hunter was born. However, tying in with another WMG, her maternal instincts beat out the possessed urge to take him away, and the exorcism forced him to use Katie as his pawn.]]
[[WMG: The demon's original target to [[spoiler: produce a son was Katie, but she had an undiagnosed condition that made her infertile.]] ]]
In number 3, Toby [[spoiler: crawls under Katie's covers, stands over her, lifting the sheets, and then sinks down. Where on her? Slightly below her stomach. Maybe doing so allowed him to see/feel/sense something wrong down there, like some form of damage or disease that would make her unable to produce any children at all, thus causing him to follow Kristi around until Hunter was born. However, tying in with another WMG, her maternal instincts beat out the possessed urge to take him away, and the exorcism forced him to use Katie as his pawn.]]
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[[WMG: Katie and Kristi's Grandmother is [[DragonAge Flemeth]] from Dragon Age]]
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[[WMG: Katie and Kristi's Grandmother is [[DragonAge [[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins Flemeth]] from Dragon Age]]
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To be fair though, The demon never really wanted Katie in the first place. He wanted Kristi and her baby, but was put off track due to the maid in 2. The Demon got stuck with her, and maybe he is making the best of it. Then again...maybe he expected all this to happen?
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It would link the movies together even more. Maybe Randy would team up with Ali from 2 to investigate the coven.
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It would link the movies together even more. Maybe Randy would team up with Ali from 2 to investigate the coven.coven.
[[WMG: Robbie was also a demon.]]
While maybe not the same demon, Robbie was a familiar of Toby's who was able to take a physical form and mark Hunter. Once he was done with his work, he was kicked out.
[[WMG: Robbie was also a demon.]]
While maybe not the same demon, Robbie was a familiar of Toby's who was able to take a physical form and mark Hunter. Once he was done with his work, he was kicked out.
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3. Watch the movie again assuming this, it fits.
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3. Watch the movie again assuming this, it fits.fits.
[[WMG: Ben's uncle in Mexico is Randy from the third movie.]]
It would link the movies together even more. Maybe Randy would team up with Ali from 2 to investigate the coven.
[[WMG: Ben's uncle in Mexico is Randy from the third movie.]]
It would link the movies together even more. Maybe Randy would team up with Ali from 2 to investigate the coven.
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He mentions having an uncle (or grandpa, I forgot) living in Mexico.
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He mentions having an uncle (or grandpa, I forgot) living in Mexico.Mexico.
[[WMG: Alex's mother from the 4th movie is a member of the coven.]]
1. She knowingly raised Hunter for the rest of the Coven.
2. Drugging her own daughter with sleeping pills is just a little too negligent.
3. Watch the movie again assuming this, it fits.
[[WMG: Alex's mother from the 4th movie is a member of the coven.]]
1. She knowingly raised Hunter for the rest of the Coven.
2. Drugging her own daughter with sleeping pills is just a little too negligent.
3. Watch the movie again assuming this, it fits.
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[[WMG: The Demon originated in Halloween Town]]
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[[WMG: The Demon originated in Halloween Town]]Town]]
[[WMG: [[spoiler:Alex is not dead.]]]]
She was hospitalized after the attack, or she escaped [[spoiler:Katie and the hoard of blank-faced women.]]. Ali will reappear and team up with her to find out what the hell happened to their families. Also...
[[WMG: The final film (assuming it goes past a 5th) will bring Lois back.]]
She and the coven of women will face off the protagonist(s).
[[WMG: The 5th film will reveal a weakness in the demon.]]
But, naturally, the protagonist(s) will die before they can use it.
[[WMG: There will be another prequel focusing on the moment in which the demon first appears.]]
Or perhaps the Latino spin-off will reveal this?
[[WMG: The Latino spin-off will feature Ben's family.]]
He mentions having an uncle (or grandpa, I forgot) living in Mexico.
[[WMG: [[spoiler:Alex is not dead.]]]]
She was hospitalized after the attack, or she escaped [[spoiler:Katie and the hoard of blank-faced women.]]. Ali will reappear and team up with her to find out what the hell happened to their families. Also...
[[WMG: The final film (assuming it goes past a 5th) will bring Lois back.]]
She and the coven of women will face off the protagonist(s).
[[WMG: The 5th film will reveal a weakness in the demon.]]
But, naturally, the protagonist(s) will die before they can use it.
[[WMG: There will be another prequel focusing on the moment in which the demon first appears.]]
Or perhaps the Latino spin-off will reveal this?
[[WMG: The Latino spin-off will feature Ben's family.]]
He mentions having an uncle (or grandpa, I forgot) living in Mexico.
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That's why it [[spoiler:possessed Katie and took Hunter.]] It just wanted to settle down and have a family, it just has a different way of doing that than most people think cause amongst demons, terrorizing people is considered a sign of affection.
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That's why it [[spoiler:possessed Katie and took Hunter.]] It just wanted to settle down and have a family, it just has a different way of doing that than most people think cause amongst demons, terrorizing people is considered a sign of affection.affection.
[[WMG: The Demon originated in Halloween Town]]
[[WMG: The Demon originated in Halloween Town]]
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*** The only flaw in this theory is that the first film was made TWO YEARS before Slendy appeared on Something Awful. That said, it wouldn't be impossible to retcon it into being Slendy.
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*** The fourth film has [[a TimeSkip to Possessed!Katie raising 6 year old Hunter and haunting people next door.]]
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*** The fourth film has [[a [[spoiler: a TimeSkip to Possessed!Katie raising 6 year old Hunter and haunting people next door.]]
