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* EveryoneHasStandards: The [=McNeil=] villagers turn against Ryu and his friends for stealing from the mayor, but they were horrified to learn that the Mayor sent Balio and Sunder to deal with them. All their hostility is immediately replaced by sympathy for Ryu, the apparent SoleSurvivor of the attack.
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* NonCombatantImmunity: Enemies don't start spawning till you get changed out of pajamas and into proper armor, and a sword. You can wander through the woods in pajamas for as long as you wish.
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* InterspecieRomance: Near Maekyss Gorge lives the [[FrogMen frog-man]] Ecarl and his human (or possibly Wyndian) wife, Kimiko. After the TimeSkip, they even have a daughter, Miyuki.
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* InterspecieRomance: InterspeciesRomance: Near Maekyss Gorge lives the [[FrogMen frog-man]] Ecarl and his human (or possibly Wyndian) wife, Kimiko. After the TimeSkip, they even have a daughter, Miyuki.
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* InterspecieRomance: Near Maekyss Gorge lives the [[FrogMen frog-man]] Ecarl and his human (or possibly Wyndian) wife, Kimiko. After the TimeSkip, they even have a daughter, Miyuki.
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* BraggingRightsReward: The Archmage and Berserker drop the best dagger and shield respectively. Unfortunately, they're incredibly marginal upgrades and by the time you can kill these two you're probably already at the final boss and can eat her for breakfast.
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** The Archmage and Berserker drop the best dagger and shield respectively. Unfortunately, they're incredibly marginal upgrades and by the time you can kill these two you're probably already at the final boss and can eat her forbreakfast.breakfast.
** In order to get the best fishing rod and bait, there are just a couple of things you need to do. First, you have to get a total fishing score of over 9,000 points (out of a possible 9,999 maximum). Second, you have to ''defeat the final boss.'' Congratulations! Now you've got the ultimate fishing rod and bait when there's basically nothing left to do in the game anyway.
** The Archmage and Berserker drop the best dagger and shield respectively. Unfortunately, they're incredibly marginal upgrades and by the time you can kill these two you're probably already at the final boss and can eat her for
** In order to get the best fishing rod and bait, there are just a couple of things you need to do. First, you have to get a total fishing score of over 9,000 points (out of a possible 9,999 maximum). Second, you have to ''defeat the final boss.'' Congratulations! Now you've got the ultimate fishing rod and bait when there's basically nothing left to do in the game anyway.
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* DumbDodoBird: One is a part of the BossBonanza, and a UniqueEnemy to boot (the rest of the bosses in the area are rematches of earlier bosses).
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* EasyLevelTrick: [=McNeil=] Manor is challenging even though it's only the second dungeon of the game. However, the main difficulty lies in the many MiniBoss battles within...all of which are ghosts, including the main Boss. Spend a little time in both fishing spots available at that point, and you can trade a Silver Knife from a Manillo merchant, which will make short work of these Bosses.
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** Though a DummiedOut spell, there was one which would have apparently [[TimeStandsStill stopped time]]. Its name? [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure ZA WARUDO!]] There are even unused voice clips of the whole cast shouting it.
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** Though a DummiedOut an unused spell, there was one which would have apparently [[TimeStandsStill stopped time]]. Its name? [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure ZA WARUDO!]] There are even unused voice clips of the whole cast shouting it.
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* WhamEpisode: The Angel Tower, where Garr's true identity and motivations are revealed.
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** The first encounter with Balio and Sunder.
** The Angel Tower, where Garr's true identity and motivations are revealed.
** With * WhamLine: At the WhamLine being:bottom of Angel Tower, Garr had Ryu examine some tablets, each one containing a name and a number underneath. The last tablet has Garr's name, and...
** The first encounter with Balio and Sunder.
** The Angel Tower, where Garr's true identity and motivations are revealed.
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** The game is full of tragic moments, though it's so long between each that it's easy to miss that it's a main theme of the game. However near the end the protagonist is reminded of several of them before making an important choice.
** Your first encounter with Balio and Sunder.
* WhamShot: As the climax of the game approaches, you are directed to an unimaginably ancient ruin where it's said that the gods walked in long-vanished ages... and it turns out to be [[spoiler: a modern-day city, confirming that the game does not take place in the Middle Ages with a bit of fantasy SchizoTech, but [[AfterTheEnd in the distant future following a societal collapse]].]]
** Your first encounter with Balio and Sunder.
* WhamShot: As the climax of the game approaches, you are directed to an unimaginably ancient ruin where it's said that the gods walked in long-vanished ages... and it turns out to be [[spoiler: a modern-day city, confirming that the game does not take place in the Middle Ages with a bit of fantasy SchizoTech, but [[AfterTheEnd in the distant future following a societal collapse]].]]
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** Your first encounter with Balio and Sunder.
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* GiveMeYourInventoryItem: Some of the Masters send you on a FetchQuest before you become their apprentices. Meryleep wants you to look for her Fairy Jewel, Yggdrasil a Wisdom Fruit, and Hachio some cooking ingredients (Swallow Eye, Beef Jerky, Martian Squid, Angler).
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* SealedGoodInACan: Deis as she's first encountered.
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* ThatsNoMoon: During their trek through the Desert of Death, Ryu and company see a small sand dune and decide to climb it to get a better vantage point. Before they could even get near did the sand shift, revealing a monster underneath.
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* MarathonLevel: [=McNeil=] Manor is an early-game example. It has two parts (the garden and the interior) that the party has to traverse like a maze. The garden part is mostly a StealthBasedMission with a minor FetchQuest near the beginning and two MiniBoss battles, and the interior is so labyrinthine that some characters inside even lampshade the oddity of ''why'' the mansion is like that in the first place. The interior is dotted with powerful random encounters at that point in the game and several MiniBoss battles. There is a bed for healing relatively[[note]]you still have to go through several rooms[[/note]] close to the entrance, and you'll find yourself [[CheckpointStarvation backtracking there several times]], especially after a tough battle, until at least you finally reach the attic (the second healing point) which by then is again, ''relatively'' close to the party's objective. Oh, and the worst part? The player must go through the interior with only two characters.
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** [=McNeil=] Manor is an early-game example. It has two parts (the garden and the interior) that the party has to traverse like a maze. The garden part is mostly a StealthBasedMission with a minor FetchQuest near the beginning and two MiniBoss battles, and the interior is so labyrinthine that some characters inside even lampshade the oddity of ''why'' the mansion is like that in the first place. The interior is dotted with powerful random encounters at that point in the game and several MiniBoss battles. There is a bed for healing relatively[[note]]you still have to go through several rooms[[/note]] close to the entrance, and you'll find yourself [[CheckpointStarvation backtracking there several times]], especially after a tough battle, until at least you finally reach the attic (the second healing point) which by then is again, ''relatively'' close to the party's objective. Oh, and the worst part? The player must go through the interior with only twocharacters.characters.
** Fahl, one of the Masters, asks you to fight 30 battles without resting in order to unlock him. Even if you return to an early area with weak enemies this will still take a long time to accomplish.
** [=McNeil=] Manor is an early-game example. It has two parts (the garden and the interior) that the party has to traverse like a maze. The garden part is mostly a StealthBasedMission with a minor FetchQuest near the beginning and two MiniBoss battles, and the interior is so labyrinthine that some characters inside even lampshade the oddity of ''why'' the mansion is like that in the first place. The interior is dotted with powerful random encounters at that point in the game and several MiniBoss battles. There is a bed for healing relatively[[note]]you still have to go through several rooms[[/note]] close to the entrance, and you'll find yourself [[CheckpointStarvation backtracking there several times]], especially after a tough battle, until at least you finally reach the attic (the second healing point) which by then is again, ''relatively'' close to the party's objective. Oh, and the worst part? The player must go through the interior with only two
** Fahl, one of the Masters, asks you to fight 30 battles without resting in order to unlock him. Even if you return to an early area with weak enemies this will still take a long time to accomplish.
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* DummiedOut:
** A few unused spells are found within the code, though only one actually has both effect and animation intact.
** There's a healthy amount of unused text buried in the code. Among them an alternate version of the Balio and Sunder ambush, and one hinting at Rei being member of the Mafia.
** A few unused spells are found within the code, though only one actually has both effect and animation intact.
** There's a healthy amount of unused text buried in the code. Among them an alternate version of the Balio and Sunder ambush, and one hinting at Rei being member of the Mafia.
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* HeadsIWinTailsYouLoss: The Balio and Sunder BossBattle underneath Wyndia. Unlike the first encounter, Ryu ''can'' defeat them at this stage, but it requires extensive LevelGrinding. However, victory is still optional, and they will run off either way.
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* HeadsIWinTailsYouLoss: HeadsIWinTailsYouLose: The Balio and Sunder BossBattle underneath Wyndia. Unlike the first encounter, Ryu ''can'' defeat them at this stage, but it requires extensive LevelGrinding. However, victory is still optional, and they will run off either way.
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** The Chain Formation - yes, it gives you insane speed, but it shoots your defense to hell, meaning that if you're not going to kill your enemy in one turn, you'd better be prepared with tons of healing items.
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* BossBonanza: In the Myria station. There are plenty of new bosses. But given how some of the bosses are inside some segments of the station itself...it might not qualify specially in the end where you get to the inner laboratory where you face the Experiments which are mostly a BossRush per Capcom's tradition but they included a few new ones (including a Dodo bird, still the crowning moment of funny is when you have to face five Rockys, considering it can still inflict you the Egg status via the Ovum spell).
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* BossBonanza: In the Myria station. There are plenty of new bosses. But given how some of the bosses are inside some segments of the station itself...it might not qualify specially in the end where you get to the inner laboratory where you face the Experiments which are mostly a BossRush per Capcom's tradition but they included a few new ones (including a Dodo bird, still the crowning moment of funny is when you have to face five Rockys, considering it can still inflict you the Egg status via the Ovum spell).one (a Dodo-like bird).
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* BossRush: Present in TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon in a labyrinth-esque area. If you don't care about the treasure, you only need to fight 2 of them, the first of them being a group of the first bosses of the game which do single-digit damage to even moderately-leveled party and who go down in a single hit.
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* BossRush: Present in TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon in a labyrinth-esque area. If you don't care about the treasure, you only need to fight 2 of them, the first of them being a group of the first bosses of the game which do single-digit damage to even a moderately-leveled party and who go down in a single hit.
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** There's a healthy amount of unused text buried in the code. Among them an alternate version of the Balio and Sunder ambush, one hinting at Rei being member of [[spoiler: the Mafia]] and another where his [[spoiler: Weretiger]] ability is hinted at very early during the story.
*** His [[spoiler: Weretiger]] ability ''is'' obliquely hinted at relatively early. [[spoiler: At Mt. Glaus, when he goes off to kill the Nue, he mentions that only he can use a certain ability, which is why Bunyan sent him off alone since he tends to attack his allies in that form as well.]]
*** His [[spoiler: Weretiger]] ability ''is'' obliquely hinted at relatively early. [[spoiler: At Mt. Glaus, when he goes off to kill the Nue, he mentions that only he can use a certain ability, which is why Bunyan sent him off alone since he tends to attack his allies in that form as well.]]
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*** His [[spoiler: Weretiger]] ability ''is'' obliquely hinted at relatively early. [[spoiler: At Mt. Glaus, when he goes off to kill the Nue, he mentions that only he can use a certain ability, which is why Bunyan sent him off alone since he tends to attack his allies in that form as well.]]Mafia.
*** His [[spoiler: Weretiger]] ability ''is'' obliquely hinted at relatively early. [[spoiler: At Mt. Glaus, when he goes off to kill the Nue, he mentions that only he can use a certain ability, which is why Bunyan sent him off alone since he tends to attack his allies in that form as well.]]
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* ExtraTurn: The ''EX Turn'' option, which grants those with a high Agi stat a second action "between" turns.
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* GoodVersusGood: Ryu [[CatchPhrase is not a bad dragon]], and is a consistently heroic individual who makes the world a better place. [[spoiler: Myria is a goddess who has spent her existence protecting humanity from danger and providing it with technological and magical aid through chrysm and the technology of the Black Ship. Unfortunately, she believes that dragons are inherently dangerous to the world, which is why she wiped them out in the past, and will do the same to Ryu if he doesn't agree to be sealed away in Heaven. [[WorldTree Yggdrasil]] also disagrees with her methods, because keeping the Desert of Death away from the lands of life prevents life from recolonizing it.]] There is no wrong choice here, just an open debate, and it's ultimately up to the player to decide which side is in the right,
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* GoodVersusGood: Ryu [[CatchPhrase [[PhraseCatcher is not a bad dragon]], and is a consistently heroic individual who makes the world a better place. [[spoiler: Myria is a goddess who has spent her existence protecting humanity from danger and providing it with technological and magical aid through chrysm and the technology of the Black Ship. Unfortunately, she believes that dragons are inherently dangerous to the world, which is why she wiped them out in the past, and will do the same to Ryu if he doesn't agree to be sealed away in Heaven. [[WorldTree Yggdrasil]] also disagrees with her methods, because keeping the Desert of Death away from the lands of life prevents life from recolonizing it.]] There is no wrong choice here, just an open debate, and it's ultimately up to the player to decide which side is in the right,
* HeadsIWinTailsYouLoss: The Balio and Sunder BossBattle underneath Wyndia. Unlike the first encounter, Ryu ''can'' defeat them at this stage, but it requires extensive LevelGrinding. However, victory is still optional, and they will run off either way.
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* JustifiedSavePoint: The main method of saving is a journal found during camp most commonly, but on other select points inside dungeons.
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* MaximumHPReduction: If someone was downed in battle and still down at the end, they would be brought back with 1 HP and have their max health reduced. The game also has the Mandrake healing item that's cheaper to buy than most other healing items and heals you to full, but likewise causes you to lose some of your max HP. Also, the game contains a move called Disembowel which inflicts HPToOne at the cost of reducing the ''user's'' maximum HP.
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* MaximumHPReduction: All examples of max HP loss can only be cured by sleeping in an inn. Sleeping at the always-available free tent doesn't cure it and neither do any of the items.
** If someone was downed in battle and still down at the end, they would be brought back with 1 HP and have their max health reduced. The game also has the Mandrake healing item that's cheaper to buy than most other healing items and heals you to full, but likewise causes you to lose some of your max HP. Also, the game contains a move called Disembowel which inflicts HPToOne at the cost of reducing the ''user's'' maximum HP.
** If someone was downed in battle and still down at the end, they would be brought back with 1 HP and have their max health reduced. The game also has the Mandrake healing item that's cheaper to buy than most other healing items and heals you to full, but likewise causes you to lose some of your max HP. Also, the game contains a move called Disembowel which inflicts HPToOne at the cost of reducing the ''user's'' maximum HP.
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* MultipleEndings: As expected: One ''Bad End'' and one ''Good End''. It is, interestingly, entirely possible to debate which is which.
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* PermanentlyMissableContent: Did you [[spoiler:fail to compliment Deis the first time you saw her in serpent form]]? No Master for you!
** The Beast Spear, Garr's ultimate weapon, is lost forever if you [[spoiler:leave the room before examining Gaist's remains.]]
** The Beast Spear, Garr's ultimate weapon, is lost forever if you [[spoiler:leave the room before examining Gaist's remains.]]
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** Did you [[spoiler:fail to compliment Deis the first time you saw her in serpent form]]? No Master for you!
**The Beast Spear, Examine Gaist's remains to get Garr's ultimate weapon, is lost forever if the Beast Spear. If you [[spoiler:leave leave the room before examining Gaist's remains.]]you do so...
** Did you [[spoiler:fail to compliment Deis the first time you saw her in serpent form]]? No Master for you!
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The third game in the long-running EasternRPG series Franchise/BreathOfFire, released on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation in September 1997 in Japan and April 1998 in North America. It was later ported into the UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable system and released in August 2005 in Japan and February 2006 in Europe, with [[NoExportForYou no North American release.]] (Until 2016.) As typical for the [=BoF=] series, several characters from the earlier games are reinvented here.
The third game in the long-running EasternRPG series Franchise/BreathOfFire, released on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation in September 1997 in Japan and April 1998 in North America. It was later ported into the UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable system and released in August 2005 in Japan and February 2006 in Europe, with [[NoExportForYou no North American release.]] (Until 2016.) As typical for the [=BoF=] series, several characters from the earlier games are reinvented here.
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The third game in the long-running EasternRPG seriesFranchise/BreathOfFire, ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'', released on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation in September 1997 in Japan and April 1998 in North America. It was later ported into the UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable system and released in August 2005 in Japan and February 2006 in Europe, with [[NoExportForYou no North American release.]] (Until 2016.) As typical for the [=BoF=] series, several characters from the earlier games are reinvented here.
The third game in the long-running EasternRPG series
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* GoodVersusGood: Ryu [[CatchPhrase is not a bad dragon]], and is a consistently heroic individual who makes the world a better place. [[spoiler: Myria is a goddess who has spent her existence protecting humanity from danger and providing it with technological and magical aid through chrysm and the technology of the Black Ship. Unfortunately, she believes that dragons are inherently dangerous to the world, which is why she wiped them out in the past, and will do the same to Ryu if he doesn't agree to be sealed away in Heaven. [[WorldTree Yggdrasil]] also disagrees with her methods, because keeping the Desert of Death away from the lands of life prevents life from recolonizing it.]] It's ultimately up to the player to decide which side is in the right. [[spoiler: Either ending can be interpreted as good, and notably, Myria does not kill any of Ryu's friends if he agrees with her, just wipes their minds and sends them home. Given how Myria's fears are proven ''right'' in Videogame/BreathOfFireIV due to just how terrible the technology is there and what it was capable of, the player can be forgiven for thinking siding with her is the 'good' choice, mostly because there is no wrong choice here, just an open debate.]]
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* GoodVersusGood: Ryu [[CatchPhrase is not a bad dragon]], and is a consistently heroic individual who makes the world a better place. [[spoiler: Myria is a goddess who has spent her existence protecting humanity from danger and providing it with technological and magical aid through chrysm and the technology of the Black Ship. Unfortunately, she believes that dragons are inherently dangerous to the world, which is why she wiped them out in the past, and will do the same to Ryu if he doesn't agree to be sealed away in Heaven. [[WorldTree Yggdrasil]] also disagrees with her methods, because keeping the Desert of Death away from the lands of life prevents life from recolonizing it.]] It's ]] There is no wrong choice here, just an open debate, and it's ultimately up to the player to decide which side is in the right. [[spoiler: Either ending can be interpreted as good, and notably, Myria does not kill any of Ryu's friends if he agrees with her, just wipes their minds and sends them home. Given how Myria's fears are proven ''right'' in Videogame/BreathOfFireIV due to just how terrible the technology is there and what it was capable of, the player can be forgiven for thinking siding with her is the 'good' choice, mostly because there is no wrong choice here, just an open debate.]]right,
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* GoodVersusGood: Ryu [[CatchPhrase is not a bad dragon]], and is a consistently heroic individual who makes the world a better place. [[spoiler: Myria is a goddess who has spent her existence protecting humanity from danger and providing it with technological and magical aid through chrysm and the technology of the Black Ship. Unfortunately, she believes that dragons are inherently dangerous to the world, which is why she wiped them out in the past, and will do the same to Ryu if he doesn't agree to be sealed away in Heaven. [[WorldTree Yggdrasil]] also disagrees with her methods, because keeping the Desert of Death away from the lands of life prevents life from recolonizing it.]]
** Interestingly, it's ultimately up to the player to decide which side is in the right. [[spoiler: Either ending can be interpreted as good, and notably, Myria does not kill any of Ryu's friends if he agrees with her, just wipes their minds and sends them home. Given how Myria's fears are proven ''right'' in Videogame/BreathOfFireIV due to just how terrible the technology is there and what it was capable of, the player can be forgiven for thinking siding with her is the 'good' choice, mostly because there is no wrong choice here, just an open debate.]]
** Interestingly, it's ultimately up to the player to decide which side is in the right. [[spoiler: Either ending can be interpreted as good, and notably, Myria does not kill any of Ryu's friends if he agrees with her, just wipes their minds and sends them home. Given how Myria's fears are proven ''right'' in Videogame/BreathOfFireIV due to just how terrible the technology is there and what it was capable of, the player can be forgiven for thinking siding with her is the 'good' choice, mostly because there is no wrong choice here, just an open debate.]]
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** Interestingly, it's]] It's ultimately up to the player to decide which side is in the right. [[spoiler: Either ending can be interpreted as good, and notably, Myria does not kill any of Ryu's friends if he agrees with her, just wipes their minds and sends them home. Given how Myria's fears are proven ''right'' in Videogame/BreathOfFireIV due to just how terrible the technology is there and what it was capable of, the player can be forgiven for thinking siding with her is the 'good' choice, mostly because there is no wrong choice here, just an open debate.]]
** Interestingly, it's
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** Why does power exist? [[PowerCorrupts Does power corrupt]]? If not, then what should it be used for?
** The above questions build up to [[PhilosophicalChoiceEndings the ending's philosophical question]]: [[spoiler: Is it better to trust in one God to rule the world, or trust that people will figure it out for themselves?]]
** Why does power exist? [[PowerCorrupts Does power corrupt]]? If not, then what should it be used for?
** The above questions build up to [[PhilosophicalChoiceEndings the ending's philosophical question]]: [[spoiler: Is it better to trust in one God to rule the world, or trust that people will figure it out for themselves?]]
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**CentralTheme: Why does power exist? [[PowerCorrupts Does power corrupt]]? If not, then what should it be used for?
** The abovefor? These questions build up to [[PhilosophicalChoiceEndings the ending's philosophical question]]: [[spoiler: Is it better to trust in one God to rule the world, or trust that people will figure it out for themselves?]]
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** The above
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* JustLikeRobinHood: Deconstructed. [[spoiler: A mysterious cloaked man hires Ryu, Rei and Teepo to break into the mansion of their town's corrupt mayor, steal his ill gotten gains, and return them to their rightful owners. The townspeople are ''furious'' that the trio not only stole from their mayor, but implicated all of them in the crime by giving them the stolen goods. Not only that, but the mayor manages to have the last laugh by hiring [[KnightOfCerebus Bario and Sunder]].]]
** However [[spoiler: [[LaserGuidedKarma Karma]] catches up to Loki after the TimeSkip when Rei mauls him to near death, [=McNeil=] gets arrested by Wyndia for smuggling, and Mikba (Leader of Syn City: Balio and Sunder also serve him) is killed by Ryu and Co.]]
** However [[spoiler: [[LaserGuidedKarma Karma]] catches up to Loki after the TimeSkip when Rei mauls him to near death, [=McNeil=] gets arrested by Wyndia for smuggling, and Mikba (Leader of Syn City: Balio and Sunder also serve him) is killed by Ryu and Co.]]
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* JustLikeRobinHood: Deconstructed. [[spoiler: A mysterious cloaked man hires Ryu, Rei and Teepo to break into the mansion of their town's corrupt mayor, steal his ill gotten gains, and return them to their rightful owners. The townspeople are ''furious'' that the trio not only stole from their mayor, but implicated all of them in the crime by giving them the stolen goods. Not only that, but the mayor manages to have the last laugh by hiring [[KnightOfCerebus Bario Balio and Sunder]].]]
** HoweverSunder]]. [[spoiler: [[LaserGuidedKarma Karma]] eventually catches up to Loki after the TimeSkip when Rei mauls him to near death, [=McNeil=] gets arrested by Wyndia for smuggling, and Mikba (Leader of Syn City: Balio and Sunder also serve him) is killed by Ryu and Co.]]
** However
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** The above questions build up to [[PhilosophicalChoiceEnding the ending's philosophical question]]: [[spoiler: Is it better to trust in one God to rule the world, or trust that people will figure it out for themselves?]]
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** The above questions build up to [[PhilosophicalChoiceEnding [[PhilosophicalChoiceEndings the ending's philosophical question]]: [[spoiler: Is it better to trust in one God to rule the world, or trust that people will figure it out for themselves?]]
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** The above questions build up to [[PhilosophicalChoiceEnding the ending's philosophical question]]: [[spoiler: Is it better to trust in one God to rule the world, or trust that people will figure it out for themselves?]]
** Why does power exist? [[PowerCorrupts Does power corrupt]]? If not, then what should it be used
** The above questions build up to [[PhilosophicalChoiceEnding the ending's philosophical question]]: [[spoiler: Is it better to trust in one God to rule the world, or trust that people will figure it out for themselves?]]
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** Ryu's Kaiser form, it causes him to gain incredible strength, blonde hair and without proper care he loses control of himself. Sounds like a [[Anime/DragonBallZ Super Saiyan]].
** The Dolphin and the Ammonites are a reference to ''Film/{{Jaws}}''.
** One of the late-game weapons is the Heat Shotel, a reference to the Sandrock gunam's WeaponOfChoice fron ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing''.
** The Dolphin and the Ammonites are a reference to ''Film/{{Jaws}}''.
** One of the late-game weapons is the Heat Shotel, a reference to the Sandrock gunam's WeaponOfChoice fron ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing''.
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** A second reference to Lupin the Third is found in the Japanese name of the Artemis' Cap, an item that increases accuracy: Jigen Hat.
** Ryu's Kaiserform, it form causes him to gain incredible strength, blonde hair and without proper care he loses control of himself. Sounds like a [[Anime/DragonBallZ Super Saiyan]].
** The introduction scenes for the Dolphin andthe Ammonites bosses are a reference straight-forward references to the one iconic scnee from ''Film/{{Jaws}}''.
** One of the late-game weapons is the Heat Shotel, a reference to the Sandrockgunam's Gundam's WeaponOfChoice fron from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing''.
** Ryu's Kaiser
** The introduction scenes for the Dolphin and
** One of the late-game weapons is the Heat Shotel, a reference to the Sandrock
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** The Beast Spear, Garr's ultimate weapon, is lost forever if you [[spoiler:leave the room before examining Gaist's remains.]]
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** This is consistent with the view of gods in the Hindu and Buddhist faiths, which are also referenced in other places within the game (such as the name Sudama (a childhood friend of Krishna), the use of prana, or Garr's outfit and ringed spear being loosely patterned after a monk's robe, prayer beads, and ringed staff). [[spoiler: The apparent nonexistence of an ultimate creator god "at the wheel" of the universe, such as might have given Myria an authoritative answer to her anxious question, is particularly Buddhist. As is Myria being taken for a "big-G God" when in fact only "little-g gods" exist in the setting.]]
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* InfinityMinusOneSword: The Force Gene. At the point in the game where you acquire it, it's a massive power spike for little AP investment, works with the Fusion Gene to enhance the Rei Hybrid, and it gets even better when you get the Trance gene.