History VideoGame / YggdraUnion

10th Nov '17 11:02:45 AM gk3389127
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->''Most Japanese games that are based on some kind of mythology usually end up getting it wrong, but this is one of the most hilarious I've ever seen. Nietzsche (in real life) was a German philosopher who introduced the concept of nihilism. Nietzsche (in the game) is a cutesy little girl undine (mermaid) who pokes gently with her spear.''

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->''Most -->''Most Japanese games that are based on some kind of mythology usually end up getting it wrong, but this is one of the most hilarious I've ever seen. Nietzsche (in real life) was a German philosopher who introduced the concept of nihilism. Nietzsche (in the game) is a cutesy little girl undine (mermaid) who pokes gently with her spear.''
23rd Sep '17 10:09:50 AM nombretomado
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''Yggdra Union'' is a TurnBasedStrategy game which is part of Sting Entertainment's ''VideoGame/DeptHeaven'' cycle. The Game Boy Advance and PSP UpdatedRerelease were both handled in North America by {{Atlus}}.

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''Yggdra Union'' is a TurnBasedStrategy game which is part of Sting Entertainment's ''VideoGame/DeptHeaven'' cycle. The Game Boy Advance and PSP UpdatedRerelease were both handled in North America by {{Atlus}}.
Creator/{{Atlus}}.
23rd Sep '17 10:07:04 AM nombretomado
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* DubInducedPlotHole: Gulcasa's title was changed from "Blazing Emperor" to "Emperor of Carnage" for the English version for whatever reason. This still makes some degree of sense--Fantasinia doesn't like him, so they wouldn't be calling him anything that sounds friendly--until you hear his people, [[LickedByTheDog who wholeheartedly adore him]], calling him the same thing... and ThemeNaming starts to show up when Imperial landmarks turn out to have fire-based names, which are also altered ("Gates of Carnage"[[note]]The name is even left as "Asura Gate" on the translated map[[/note]], anyone?). Then it just starts sounding rather awkward. It will probably become a much bigger problem if {{Atlus}} ever localizes ''VideoGame/BlazeUnion,'' where Gulcasa's fire motif is even more important.

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* DubInducedPlotHole: Gulcasa's title was changed from "Blazing Emperor" to "Emperor of Carnage" for the English version for whatever reason. This still makes some degree of sense--Fantasinia doesn't like him, so they wouldn't be calling him anything that sounds friendly--until you hear his people, [[LickedByTheDog who wholeheartedly adore him]], calling him the same thing... and ThemeNaming starts to show up when Imperial landmarks turn out to have fire-based names, which are also altered ("Gates of Carnage"[[note]]The name is even left as "Asura Gate" on the translated map[[/note]], anyone?). Then it just starts sounding rather awkward. It will probably become a much bigger problem if {{Atlus}} Creator/{{Atlus}} ever localizes ''VideoGame/BlazeUnion,'' where Gulcasa's fire motif is even more important.



* Myth/NorseMythology: The original translation of the game had several references to it, like the names of certain items and the name of Kylier's race; the updated translation added a lot more of them, since by then {{Atlus}} had realized that ''Yggdra Union'' and ''VideoGame/RivieraThePromisedLand'' were part of one series. The story itself also contains a reference--the side materials explain that one of the antagonists once sacrificed an eye in exchange for knowledge, similar to Odin.

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* Myth/NorseMythology: The original translation of the game had several references to it, like the names of certain items and the name of Kylier's race; the updated translation added a lot more of them, since by then {{Atlus}} Creator/{{Atlus}} had realized that ''Yggdra Union'' and ''VideoGame/RivieraThePromisedLand'' were part of one series. The story itself also contains a reference--the side materials explain that one of the antagonists once sacrificed an eye in exchange for knowledge, similar to Odin.
7th Jul '17 8:17:51 AM fruitstripegum
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* CrapsackWorld: The land is defined by war and bloodshed, racism and genocide is commonplace, and [[spoiler:everyone is an UnwittingPawn to



* CrapsackWorld: The land is defined by war and bloodshed, racism and genocide is commonplace, and [[spoiler:everyone is an UnwittingPawn to
31st May '17 7:14:01 PM nombretomado
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An interview with the game director and artists can be found [[http://community.livejournal.com/disaresta/52597.html here]]; be warned that there are '''spoilers''' up through the end of the PSP version. See also ''YggdraUnison'', the AlternateUniverse cellphone/DS spinoff.

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An interview with the game director and artists can be found [[http://community.livejournal.com/disaresta/52597.html here]]; be warned that there are '''spoilers''' up through the end of the PSP version. See also ''YggdraUnison'', ''VideoGame/YggdraUnison'', the AlternateUniverse cellphone/DS spinoff.



* DecoyProtagonist: You start off playing as Milanor, who is set up as the hero with Yggdra in a traditional DistressedDamsel role. Two and a half battlefields later, Yggdra becomes the player character, and Milanor is firmly established as her {{sidekick}}, losing nearly all plot significance except the ability to attract [[BigDamnHeroes Kylier]] [[DeusExMachina when the Royal Army has dug itself into a hole]] and the default commander seat when Yggdra is somewhere else. The game is explicitly about Yggdra's CharacterDevelopment and [[TheHighQueen growth as a ruler]] as she learns to balance hot-blooded idealism with compassion and an understanding of how the world works. Then the universe of episode II [[YggdraUnison started]] [[VideoGame/BlazeUnion expanding]], a certain antagonist's backstory and true motivations got lots more attention, and [[spoiler:Gulcasa]] made off with Yggdra's hero seat. On top of all this, the character in the episode II games who is the most important to [[VideoGame/DeptHeaven the 'verse]] is ''none of the above''--it's actually [[spoiler:Nessiah]], the ''antagonist,'' about which WordOfGod and [[AllThereInTheManual the side materials]] are very clear. UpToEleven, indeed.

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* DecoyProtagonist: You start off playing as Milanor, who is set up as the hero with Yggdra in a traditional DistressedDamsel role. Two and a half battlefields later, Yggdra becomes the player character, and Milanor is firmly established as her {{sidekick}}, losing nearly all plot significance except the ability to attract [[BigDamnHeroes Kylier]] [[DeusExMachina when the Royal Army has dug itself into a hole]] and the default commander seat when Yggdra is somewhere else. The game is explicitly about Yggdra's CharacterDevelopment and [[TheHighQueen growth as a ruler]] as she learns to balance hot-blooded idealism with compassion and an understanding of how the world works. Then the universe of episode II [[YggdraUnison [[VideoGame/YggdraUnison started]] [[VideoGame/BlazeUnion expanding]], a certain antagonist's backstory and true motivations got lots more attention, and [[spoiler:Gulcasa]] made off with Yggdra's hero seat. On top of all this, the character in the episode II games who is the most important to [[VideoGame/DeptHeaven the 'verse]] is ''none of the above''--it's actually [[spoiler:Nessiah]], the ''antagonist,'' about which WordOfGod and [[AllThereInTheManual the side materials]] are very clear. UpToEleven, indeed.



* HideYourLesbians: There's a fair amount of subtext between Zilva and Elena, none of which amounts to much due to [[spoiler:Zilva dying]]. In addition to this, there was definitely ''[[DidTheyOrDidntThey something]]'' going on between [[spoiler:Gulcasa and Nessiah]] according to ''YggdraUnison'' and ''VideoGame/BlazeUnion''.

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* HideYourLesbians: There's a fair amount of subtext between Zilva and Elena, none of which amounts to much due to [[spoiler:Zilva dying]]. In addition to this, there was definitely ''[[DidTheyOrDidntThey something]]'' going on between [[spoiler:Gulcasa and Nessiah]] according to ''YggdraUnison'' ''VideoGame/YggdraUnison'' and ''VideoGame/BlazeUnion''.



* IneffectualSympatheticVillain: Gulcasa is a HeroAntagonist until [[spoiler:he goes and gets possessed]], and by that point there ''is'' no making him unsympathetic. As for [[spoiler:Nessiah]], he's just ''[[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds immensely]]'' [[WellIntentionedExtremist screwed]][[AntiVillain -up]]. As ''YggdraUnion'' is intensely anti-war, this is kind of the point.

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* IneffectualSympatheticVillain: Gulcasa is a HeroAntagonist until [[spoiler:he goes and gets possessed]], and by that point there ''is'' no making him unsympathetic. As for [[spoiler:Nessiah]], he's just ''[[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds immensely]]'' [[WellIntentionedExtremist screwed]][[AntiVillain -up]]. As ''YggdraUnion'' ''Yggdra Union'' is intensely anti-war, this is kind of the point.



* Myth/NorseMythology: The original translation of the game had several references to it, like the names of certain items and the name of Kylier's race; the updated translation added a lot more of them, since by then {{Atlus}} had realized that ''YggdraUnion'' and ''VideoGame/RivieraThePromisedLand'' were part of one series. The story itself also contains a reference--the side materials explain that one of the antagonists once sacrificed an eye in exchange for knowledge, similar to Odin.

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* Myth/NorseMythology: The original translation of the game had several references to it, like the names of certain items and the name of Kylier's race; the updated translation added a lot more of them, since by then {{Atlus}} had realized that ''YggdraUnion'' ''Yggdra Union'' and ''VideoGame/RivieraThePromisedLand'' were part of one series. The story itself also contains a reference--the side materials explain that one of the antagonists once sacrificed an eye in exchange for knowledge, similar to Odin.
14th Jun '16 7:33:49 PM Monsund
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* UnholyHolySword: [[spoiler:The TropeNamer.]]

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* UnholyHolySword: [[spoiler:The TropeNamer.Gran Centurino.]]
12th Nov '15 4:29:48 PM nombretomado
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* TheBadGuyWins: [[spoiler: In the A ending, the failure of Nessiah's plan means that [[GreaterScopeVillain Hector]] is free to enact his schemes in ''VideoGame/KnightsInTheNightmare'' and ''RivieraThePromisedLand''.]]

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* TheBadGuyWins: [[spoiler: In the A ending, the failure of Nessiah's plan means that [[GreaterScopeVillain Hector]] is free to enact his schemes in ''VideoGame/KnightsInTheNightmare'' and ''RivieraThePromisedLand''.''VideoGame/RivieraThePromisedLand''.]]



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: What really puts the [[BittersweetEnding "bittersweet"]] in [[MultipleEndings Ending A]]? [[spoiler:If he'd been able to take his revenge, Nessiah would have killed ''the VideoGame/DeptHeaven series villain, Hector,'' and ended a horribly corrupt heavenly system. This would have ''prevented the tragic scenarios of ''VideoGame/KnightsInTheNightmare ''and RivieraThePromisedLand from ever happening,'' sparing entire other worlds from their suffering.]] Nice job breaking it, Yggdra.

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: What really puts the [[BittersweetEnding "bittersweet"]] in [[MultipleEndings Ending A]]? [[spoiler:If he'd been able to take his revenge, Nessiah would have killed ''the VideoGame/DeptHeaven series villain, Hector,'' and ended a horribly corrupt heavenly system. This would have ''prevented the tragic scenarios of ''VideoGame/KnightsInTheNightmare ''and RivieraThePromisedLand ''VideoGame/RivieraThePromisedLand'' from ever happening,'' sparing entire other worlds from their suffering.]] Nice job breaking it, Yggdra.



* Myth/NorseMythology: The original translation of the game had several references to it, like the names of certain items and the name of Kylier's race; the updated translation added a lot more of them, since by then {{Atlus}} had realized that ''YggdraUnion'' and ''RivieraThePromisedLand'' were part of one series. The story itself also contains a reference--the side materials explain that one of the antagonists once sacrificed an eye in exchange for knowledge, similar to Odin.

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* Myth/NorseMythology: The original translation of the game had several references to it, like the names of certain items and the name of Kylier's race; the updated translation added a lot more of them, since by then {{Atlus}} had realized that ''YggdraUnion'' and ''RivieraThePromisedLand'' ''VideoGame/RivieraThePromisedLand'' were part of one series. The story itself also contains a reference--the side materials explain that one of the antagonists once sacrificed an eye in exchange for knowledge, similar to Odin.
25th Jun '15 6:20:09 PM nombretomado
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* TheBadGuyWins: [[spoiler: In the A ending, the failure of Nessiah's plan means that [[GreaterScopeVillain Hector]] is free to enact his schemes in ''KnightsInTheNightmare'' and ''RivieraThePromisedLand''.]]

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* TheBadGuyWins: [[spoiler: In the A ending, the failure of Nessiah's plan means that [[GreaterScopeVillain Hector]] is free to enact his schemes in ''KnightsInTheNightmare'' ''VideoGame/KnightsInTheNightmare'' and ''RivieraThePromisedLand''.]]



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: What really puts the [[BittersweetEnding "bittersweet"]] in [[MultipleEndings Ending A]]? [[spoiler:If he'd been able to take his revenge, Nessiah would have killed ''the VideoGame/DeptHeaven series villain, Hector,'' and ended a horribly corrupt heavenly system. This would have ''prevented the tragic scenarios of KnightsInTheNightmare and RivieraThePromisedLand from ever happening,'' sparing entire other worlds from their suffering.]] Nice job breaking it, Yggdra.

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: What really puts the [[BittersweetEnding "bittersweet"]] in [[MultipleEndings Ending A]]? [[spoiler:If he'd been able to take his revenge, Nessiah would have killed ''the VideoGame/DeptHeaven series villain, Hector,'' and ended a horribly corrupt heavenly system. This would have ''prevented the tragic scenarios of KnightsInTheNightmare and ''VideoGame/KnightsInTheNightmare ''and RivieraThePromisedLand from ever happening,'' sparing entire other worlds from their suffering.]] Nice job breaking it, Yggdra.
3rd May '15 9:37:59 AM TVRulezAgain
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* [[spoiler: TheBadGuyWins: In the A ending, the failure of Nessiah's plan means that [[BiggerBad Hector]] is free to enact his schemes in ''KnightsInTheNightmare'' and ''RivieraThePromisedLand''.]]

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* [[spoiler: TheBadGuyWins: [[spoiler: In the A ending, the failure of Nessiah's plan means that [[BiggerBad [[GreaterScopeVillain Hector]] is free to enact his schemes in ''KnightsInTheNightmare'' and ''RivieraThePromisedLand''.]]
20th Apr '15 4:37:12 AM jormis29
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** The Vanir [[StealthInsult are reminiscent of Native Americans,]] [[TakeThat particularly considering their relation to Fantasinia]] (and the [[NorseMythology name of their race]]). Most of them are dark-skinned ([[spoiler:Milanor]] being an exception) to make it even more obvious.

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** The Vanir [[StealthInsult are reminiscent of Native Americans,]] [[TakeThat particularly considering their relation to Fantasinia]] (and the [[NorseMythology [[Myth/NorseMythology name of their race]]). Most of them are dark-skinned ([[spoiler:Milanor]] being an exception) to make it even more obvious.



* NorseMythology: The original translation of the game had several references to it, like the names of certain items and the name of Kylier's race; the updated translation added a lot more of them, since by then {{Atlus}} had realized that ''YggdraUnion'' and ''RivieraThePromisedLand'' were part of one series. The story itself also contains a reference--the side materials explain that one of the antagonists once sacrificed an eye in exchange for knowledge, similar to Odin.

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* NorseMythology: Myth/NorseMythology: The original translation of the game had several references to it, like the names of certain items and the name of Kylier's race; the updated translation added a lot more of them, since by then {{Atlus}} had realized that ''YggdraUnion'' and ''RivieraThePromisedLand'' were part of one series. The story itself also contains a reference--the side materials explain that one of the antagonists once sacrificed an eye in exchange for knowledge, similar to Odin.
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