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** I'd call that frozen; his helmet was intact, and the planet it landed on was well below the temperature needed to preserve the head inside.
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** nuked either way, the question is whether it's a giant bomb or just a giant radiation pulse intended to kill everything but leave their tech.
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** Final Verdict: Ultimately [[spoiler: The Joker]] averages out to 2.625, so its quite possible that [[spoiler: Joker's]] body will find its way [[spoiler: Into a Lazarus Pit, [[WildMassGuessing or already has.]]]], though its completely conceivable that this is curtains for the [[spoiler [[MonsterClown Killer Clown.]]]]
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** Final Verdict: Ultimately [[spoiler: The Joker]] averages out to 2.625, so its quite possible that [[spoiler: Joker's]] body will find its way [[spoiler: Into a Lazarus Pit, [[WildMassGuessing or already has.]]]], though its completely conceivable that this is curtains for the [[spoiler [[spoiler: [[MonsterClown Killer Clown.]]]]]]]]
* Next up is [[spoiler: Ras Al Ghoul]]. Will [[spoiler: his]] body find its way to a [[spoiler: Lazarus Pit]] or not?
* CauseOfDeath: A failed attempt at TakingYouWithMe, the best bet is a 2 because of the failure.
* AudienceExpectation: [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]] has LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt in [[spoiler: his]] favor, though not as much as the character above. However,[[spoiler: he has]] the added bonus of [[spoiler: having an established mechanism for coming BackFromTheDead]], so its a 1.
* BodyFound: We see the body, but it quickly goes missing, so its a 2.
* Reaction: FauxDeath to some extent, not because [[spoiler: Batman]] doubts that [[spoiler: he's]] dead, but because of the aforementioned ability to [[spoiler: come BackFromTheDead using the Lazarus Pits.]] 1.
* LastWords: Technically an OhCrap, but [[spoiler: Ra's]] outlasts his "LastWords" by about 20 seconds, during which [[spoiler: he's]] completely fine physically and attempts a TakingYouWithMe. So a 3 here.
* Characterization: [[spoiler: The Other BigBad]], 1.
* When Did They Die: A 2 here for the same reasons as the above character.
* Died And Come Back?: Once on screen, countless times in backstory: 1.
* Final Verdict: 1.625. We haven't seen the last of [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]]!!! Though [[spoiler: he's]] probably actually dead for the time being.
* On a similar note, next up we have [[spoiler: Talia Al Ghul.]]
* Cause of Death?: Not exactly crystal clear, but matches [[spoiler: StuffedInTheFridge or DroppedABridgeOnHim]] the most, so its a 4.
* AudienceExpectation: Since [[spoiler: She]] lacks the [[spoiler: JokerImmunity]] of the two previous characters, its quite possible that [[spoiler: Talia]] might be dead for real in the eyes of the audience. 2 because of other characters apparently cheating death.
* Body Found?: Like [[spoiler: her father's]] body [[spoiler: Talia's]] disappears during the boss fight following [[spoiler: her]] apparent death, so 2.
* Reaction: ItsPersonal, 2.
* LastWords: Receives wound that kills [[spoiler: her]] [[KilledMidSentence mid sentence]], but lasts long enough to deliver some last words; 3.
* Characterization: Loved One, 4.
* When Did They Die?: 2 for the same reasons as the above characters.
* Died and Come Back?: Nope, 4.
* Final Verdict: 2.625, about as likely as [[spoiler: The Joker]] to come back from the dead.
* Next up is [[spoiler: Ras Al Ghoul]]. Will [[spoiler: his]] body find its way to a [[spoiler: Lazarus Pit]] or not?
* CauseOfDeath: A failed attempt at TakingYouWithMe, the best bet is a 2 because of the failure.
* AudienceExpectation: [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]] has LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt in [[spoiler: his]] favor, though not as much as the character above. However,[[spoiler: he has]] the added bonus of [[spoiler: having an established mechanism for coming BackFromTheDead]], so its a 1.
* BodyFound: We see the body, but it quickly goes missing, so its a 2.
* Reaction: FauxDeath to some extent, not because [[spoiler: Batman]] doubts that [[spoiler: he's]] dead, but because of the aforementioned ability to [[spoiler: come BackFromTheDead using the Lazarus Pits.]] 1.
* LastWords: Technically an OhCrap, but [[spoiler: Ra's]] outlasts his "LastWords" by about 20 seconds, during which [[spoiler: he's]] completely fine physically and attempts a TakingYouWithMe. So a 3 here.
* Characterization: [[spoiler: The Other BigBad]], 1.
* When Did They Die: A 2 here for the same reasons as the above character.
* Died And Come Back?: Once on screen, countless times in backstory: 1.
* Final Verdict: 1.625. We haven't seen the last of [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]]!!! Though [[spoiler: he's]] probably actually dead for the time being.
* On a similar note, next up we have [[spoiler: Talia Al Ghul.]]
* Cause of Death?: Not exactly crystal clear, but matches [[spoiler: StuffedInTheFridge or DroppedABridgeOnHim]] the most, so its a 4.
* AudienceExpectation: Since [[spoiler: She]] lacks the [[spoiler: JokerImmunity]] of the two previous characters, its quite possible that [[spoiler: Talia]] might be dead for real in the eyes of the audience. 2 because of other characters apparently cheating death.
* Body Found?: Like [[spoiler: her father's]] body [[spoiler: Talia's]] disappears during the boss fight following [[spoiler: her]] apparent death, so 2.
* Reaction: ItsPersonal, 2.
* LastWords: Receives wound that kills [[spoiler: her]] [[KilledMidSentence mid sentence]], but lasts long enough to deliver some last words; 3.
* Characterization: Loved One, 4.
* When Did They Die?: 2 for the same reasons as the above characters.
* Died and Come Back?: Nope, 4.
* Final Verdict: 2.625, about as likely as [[spoiler: The Joker]] to come back from the dead.
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Alright, now that ''BatmanArkhamCity'' been out for a while, it's time to fill the deadness algorithms for the killed of characters.
* First and foremost, we have [[spoiler: The Joker]]: Spectacular [[AvertedTrope Aversion]] of [[spoiler: JokerImmunity]] or a DoubleSubversion of it?
* Cause of Death: DeathByIrony / [[spoiler: KarmicDeath]], 4.
* AudienceExpectation: DisneyDeath most likely considering [[spoiler: Scarecrow and some others appeared to have survived their apparent deaths in Arkham Asylum, and there's an established method by which characters could come back from the dead; the Lazarus Pits.]] Although LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt is in full effect, so 1 is the best answer.
* BodyFound?: Found but not buried. [[spoiler: The Joker]] gets a 3 here.
* Reaction: Believe it or not, something close to a ReallyDeadMontage, since the cutscene following [[spoiler: his]] death puts a big emphasis on the reactions of [[spoiler: Joker's]] [[spoiler: {{mooks}}]] to [[spoiler: his]] death.
* Last Words: Difficult to say, though FamousLastWords fits best, 3.
* Characterization [[spoiler: The Big Bad]], 1.
* When did they die?: Difficult to say, though since Arkham City concludes its arc, same year would be the best bet. 2
* Died and Come Back: While [[spoiler: his]] ComicBook incarnation has died and come back countless times over the years, [[spoiler: the time Joker faked his own death in the Arkhamverse was to lure Batman into a false sense of security near the beginning of the game]], so a 3.
** Final Verdict: Ultimately [[spoiler: The Joker]] averages out to 2.625, so its quite possible that [[spoiler: Joker's]] body will find its way [[spoiler: Into a Lazarus Pit, [[WildMassGuessing or already has.]]]], though its completely conceivable that this is curtains for the [[spoiler [[MonsterClown Killer Clown.]]]]
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* First and foremost, we have [[spoiler: The Joker]]: Spectacular [[AvertedTrope Aversion]] of [[spoiler: JokerImmunity]] or a DoubleSubversion of it?
* Cause of Death: DeathByIrony / [[spoiler: KarmicDeath]], 4.
* AudienceExpectation: DisneyDeath most likely considering [[spoiler: Scarecrow and some others appeared to have survived their apparent deaths in Arkham Asylum, and there's an established method by which characters could come back from the dead; the Lazarus Pits.]] Although LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt is in full effect, so 1 is the best answer.
* BodyFound?: Found but not buried. [[spoiler: The Joker]] gets a 3 here.
* Reaction: Believe it or not, something close to a ReallyDeadMontage, since the cutscene following [[spoiler: his]] death puts a big emphasis on the reactions of [[spoiler: Joker's]] [[spoiler: {{mooks}}]] to [[spoiler: his]] death.
* Last Words: Difficult to say, though FamousLastWords fits best, 3.
* Characterization [[spoiler: The Big Bad]], 1.
* When did they die?: Difficult to say, though since Arkham City concludes its arc, same year would be the best bet. 2
* Died and Come Back: While [[spoiler: his]] ComicBook incarnation has died and come back countless times over the years, [[spoiler: the time Joker faked his own death in the Arkhamverse was to lure Batman into a false sense of security near the beginning of the game]], so a 3.
** Final Verdict: Ultimately [[spoiler: The Joker]] averages out to 2.625, so its quite possible that [[spoiler: Joker's]] body will find its way [[spoiler: Into a Lazarus Pit, [[WildMassGuessing or already has.]]]], though its completely conceivable that this is curtains for the [[spoiler [[MonsterClown Killer Clown.]]]]
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* Cause: The Lady is overkill: 4
* Genre: 1
* Body: We don't see it, but flayed bodies remain: 4
* Reaction: none in-game, but typical Sigil would be "Oh look, another sod got himself flayed!" 3
* Last words: None
* Character: 1
* When: 1
* Alreddy: 1
15/7 2.1 Suprisingly low for flaying.
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[[{{Morrowind}} Almalexia]]
* Cause: just plain killed in a duel by the player character. I think that's about 3.
* Genre: High Fantasy. Technically in this universe death isn't cheap, but godlike beings tend to pop back into existence more or less often. Let's give her a 2.
* Body Found: Left for dead in the Clockwork City. A clear-cut 1.
* Reaction: No one believed she's dead. 1
* Last Words: a "Piece of cake" speech about how she's going to off Nerevarine. 2
* Character: archvillainess / fallen heroine. 1
* When: In Skyrim's times it's about 200 years after her death. 4
* How many times: Not yet. 4
Score: 2,57. Something between "Be back soon" and "Maybe back later".
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* Cause: The Lady is overkill: 4
* Genre: 1
* Body: We don't see it, but flayed bodies remain: 4
* Reaction: none in-game, but typical Sigil would be "Oh look, another sod got himself flayed!" 3
* Last words: None
* Character: 1
* When: 1
* Alreddy: 1
15/7 2.1 Suprisingly low for flaying.
[[{{Morrowind}} Almalexia]]
* Cause: just plain killed in a duel by the player character. I think that's about 3.
* Genre: High Fantasy. Technically in this universe death isn't cheap, but godlike beings tend to pop back into existence more or less often. Let's give her a 2.
* Body Found: Left for dead in the Clockwork City. A clear-cut 1.
* Reaction: No one believed she's dead. 1
* Last Words: a "Piece of cake" speech about how she's going to off Nerevarine. 2
* Character: archvillainess / fallen heroine. 1
* When: In Skyrim's times it's about 200 years after her death. 4
* How many times: Not yet. 4
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* Cause: The Lady is overkill: 4
* Genre: 1
* Body: We don't see it, but flayed bodies remain: 4
* Reaction: none in-game, but typical Sigil would be "Oh look, another sod got himself flayed!" 3
* Last words: None
* Character: 1
* When: 1
* Alreddy: 1
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2,375. They should be back in ''[[VideoGame/{{FinalFantasyXIII-2}} XIII-2]]''.
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[[PlanescapeTorment The Nameless One]] (non finale)
* Cause: Jumping onto a trap to set it off and the like: 1
* Genre: Even for other people, in D&D, DeathIsCheep: 1
* Body Found: Most places you use it it counts as LeftForDead 1
* Reaction: The party member reactions don't really fall under anything, but they are mostly sighs of "here we go again": 1
* Last Words: I forget what his death quotes are, I '''think''' they are mostly that dieing still hurts: 1 (though not to sure here)
* Character: Protagonist 1
* When: Same Arc 1
* How many times: I've lost count 1
Score: 1: It doesn't even take him an hour!
Hey! Isn't this our first straight "1" guy?
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* Cause: The Lady is overkill: 4
* Genre: 1
* Body: We don't see it, but flayed bodies remain: 4
* Reaction: none in-game, but typical Sigil would be "Oh look, another sod got himself flayed!" 3
* Last words: None
* Character: 1
* When: 1
* Alreddy: 1
15/7 2.1 Suprisingly low for flaying.
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[[PlanescapeTorment The Nameless One]] (non finale)
* Cause: Jumping onto a trap to set it off and the like: 1
* Genre: Even for other people, in D&D, DeathIsCheep: 1
* Body Found: Most places you use it it counts as LeftForDead 1
* Reaction: The party member reactions don't really fall under anything, but they are mostly sighs of "here we go again": 1
* Last Words: I forget what his death quotes are, I '''think''' they are mostly that dieing still hurts: 1 (though not to sure here)
* Character: Protagonist 1
* When: Same Arc 1
* How many times: I've lost count 1
Score: 1: It doesn't even take him an hour!
Hey! Isn't this our first straight "1" guy?
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* Cause: The Lady is overkill: 4
* Genre: 1
* Body: We don't see it, but flayed bodies remain: 4
* Reaction: none in-game, but typical Sigil would be "Oh look, another sod got himself flayed!" 3
* Last words: None
* Character: 1
* When: 1
* Alreddy: 1
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[[FinalFantasyXIII Fang and Vanille]]
*Cause of death : HeroicSacrifice. 3
*Genre : Well, DeathIsCheap is the choice here, since all the "dead" main characters but Nora Estheim come back. 1
*Body Found : Analogous to Frozen. 2
*Reaction : Their part of the ending cutscene and the novella episode i could count as a Montage. 4
*Last Words : They talk to the others after their death and tell them they'll watch them or something, counts as a FinalSpeech. 3
*Characterization : Two protagonists. 1
*When : A little more than a year ago, so… let's say same year. 2
*"Died" and came back : Well, they already went to crystal stasis and came back, so… Once and got better. 3
2,375. They should be back in [[{{FinalFantasyXIII-2}} XIII-2]]
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Currently, [[spoiler:Shirley]] from ''CodeGeass'' and [[spoiler:the real Caulder]] from ''AdvanceWars: Days of Ruin'' have scored 4, the highest possible. The latter is more notable by having 4 in ''every'' category instead of getting the [=CLAMP=] bonus that the former got. No characters have got the lowest possible score of 1 yet, but [[DoctorWho Davros and The Master]] are joint leaders in the death defying derby at 1.75, even beating SouthPark's Kenny.
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Currently, [[spoiler:Shirley]] from ''CodeGeass'' and [[spoiler:the real Caulder]] from ''AdvanceWars: Days of Ruin'' have scored 4, the highest possible. The latter is more notable by having 4 in ''every'' category instead of getting the [=CLAMP=] bonus that the former got. No characters have got the lowest possible score of 1 yet, but [[DoctorWho [[Series/DoctorWho Davros and The Master]] are joint leaders in the death defying derby at 1.75, even beating SouthPark's Kenny.
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Repeatedly resurrected herself via her daughters through the generations. 1
* Average:2.3125 1.722. Looks like we'll be seeing more of her. [[spoiler:In DragonAgeII, it's revealed that she cheated death by using a SoulJar to create a copy of herself.]]
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* Cause: DeathByIrony (hey, I think I'll not try to escape the player who just turned my ScrappyLevel into a joke so that he toys with me and [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim doesn't blow up the last of the lasers right away to destroy the level]] when he can easily do so any time he pleases, because [[spoiler:[[NotSoDifferent he must find it]]...[[CatchPhrase fascinating]]]]) - 4
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* Cause: DeathByIrony (hey, I think I'll not try to escape the player who just turned my ScrappyLevel into a joke so that he toys with me and [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim doesn't blow up the last of the lasers right away to destroy the level]] level when he can easily do so any time he pleases, because [[spoiler:[[NotSoDifferent he must find it]]...[[CatchPhrase fascinating]]]]) - 4
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Not a storyline death. Otherwise we\'d just spam this page up with literally every game which has hit points, lives and game overs. See Tips Worksheet 3.
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* '''Cause of Death''': DroppedABridgeOnHim (Blundered between two of the ghosts) 4
* '''Genre''': DeathIsCheap - 1
* '''Body Found''': No - 2
* '''Last Words''': A loud wail, so OhCrap - 4
* '''Characterization''': The Hero - 1
* '''When''': Same level - 1
* '''Died and come back''': Many a time - 1
* '''Average''': 14/7=2, Be Back Soon
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* Cause: Sacrifice - 3
* Genre: I don't know.
* Body: It's there. We just don't know if it's supposed to be dead. I'll call it never found. - 3
* Reaction: I don't know.
* LastWords: [[SilentProtagonist Not applicable]].
* Characterization: Protagonist - 1
* Died and came back: She has unlimited lives, but [[WildMassGuessing most]] don't believe that to be canon.
* When: Same year - 2
* 9/4 = 2.25 Also, it's really hard to tell if she's even supposed to be dead, so it's probably a bit more likely than that. As such, she probably survive.
* Cause: Sacrifice - 3
* Genre: I don't know.
* Body: It's there. We just don't know if it's supposed to be dead. I'll call it never found. - 3
* Reaction: I don't know.
* LastWords: [[SilentProtagonist Not applicable]].
* Characterization: Protagonist - 1
* Died and came back: She has unlimited lives, but [[WildMassGuessing most]] don't believe that to be canon.
* When: Same year - 2
* 9/4 = 2.25 Also, it's really hard to tell if she's even supposed to be dead, so it's probably a bit more likely than that. As such, she probably survive.
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* 2.625. Could come back again, but it'd cheapen his first resurrection. WordOfGod denies it, so let's assume [[EpilepticTrees he does with so many modifications to his body this time that he owns all the Reapers bare-handed]].
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* 2.625. Could come back again, but it'd cheapen his his/her first resurrection. WordOfGod denies it, so let's assume [[EpilepticTrees he s/he does with so many modifications to his his/her body this time that he s/he owns all the Reapers bare-handed]].
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PacMan.
*'''Cause of Death''': DroppedABridgeOnHim (Blundered between two of the ghosts) 4
*'''Genre''': DeathIsCheap - 1
*'''Body Found''': No - 2
*'''Last Words''': A loud wail, so OhCrap - 4
*'''Characterization''': The Hero - 1
*'''When''': Same level - 1
*'''Died and come back''': Many a time - 1
*'''Average''': 14/7=2, Be Back Soon
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** [[spoiler: Well, not so much ''him'' as the implants that Sovereign gave him. By that point, Saren's either [[DeaderThanDead already gone]] or in an AndIMustScream situation.]]
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* So 22/8 gives us 2.75. Pretty high score for a main character.
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* So 22/8 gives us 2.75. Pretty high score for a main character.
character, and I was being light on some of them.
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* Died and Came Back: [Once, so 3. They do make a big deal out of how people do NOT come back from the dead, and how reviving Shepard is an insane exception, however.
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* Died and Came Back: [Once, Once, so 3. They do make a big deal out of how people do NOT come back from the dead, and how reviving Shepard is an insane exception, however.
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