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* '''Gender Flipped''': Bob was raped and has his ChildByRape dumped on him. Alice being one of the few people to take his suffering seriously, marries him to prevent akward questions and the [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale ensuing mockery]]
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* '''Justified''': The setting they live in sees the idea of sex before marriage as inexcusable.
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* '''Justified''': The setting they live in sees the idea of sex before marriage as inexcusable. (Bob may additionally be doing it to GiveTheBabyAFather.)
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice and Bob were already engaged when she got pregnant, so they just move the wedding date to avoid rumors from ruining Alice's reputation.
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice and Bob AliceAndBob were already engaged when she got pregnant, so they just move the wedding date up to avoid rumors from ruining Alice's reputation.
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* '''Inverted''': Alice proposes to Bob when she gets pregnant, even though she knows he's not the father.
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** Alice proposes to Bob when she gets pregnant, even though she knows he's not thefather.father.
** Bob refuses to marry Alice, or vice versa, after she's become pregnant.
* '''Gender-Inverted''': [[MisterSeahorse Bob is pregnant]], so Alice proposes to him so he can avoid being considered dishonoured and tainted.
** Alice proposes to Bob when she gets pregnant, even though she knows he's not the
** Bob refuses to marry Alice, or vice versa, after she's become pregnant.
* '''Gender-Inverted''': [[MisterSeahorse Bob is pregnant]], so Alice proposes to him so he can avoid being considered dishonoured and tainted.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob goes back and forth about marrying Alice.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob goes back and forth about marrying Alice.
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* '''Parodied''': ???
Bob practices {{Polyamory}} and specifically marries hitherto single pregnant women.
*'''Zig Zagged''': '''Zig-Zagged''': Bob goes back and forth about marrying Alice. Alice.
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???Bob tells Carol and Charlie, "I married your mother because if I didn't, she would have been disgraced across town."
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* '''Exploited''': ???Alice's relatives, figuring they have Bob under their collective thumbs now, get him to do all sorts of things for them, often [[ObnoxiousInLaws in the least pleasant way possible]].
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* '''Deconstructed''': Alice and Bob don't truly love each other, and their marriage ends up being a miserable one that ends in their divorce.
* '''Reconstructed''': By the time this happens, the town's gossip machine has moved on to other things, so Alice's honor is secure, and she lives a fine life with her child.
* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
* '''Played For Drama''': Alice's child is a ChildByRape, and Alice was drugged so much she can't recall the night she was raped. If she gets an abortion, then people will still know she had sex out of wedlock and she'll still deal with SlutShaming from people who don't know the full context of her situation.
* '''Reconstructed''': By the time this happens, the town's gossip machine has moved on to other things, so Alice's honor is secure, and she lives a fine life with her child.
* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
* '''Played For Drama''': Alice's child is a ChildByRape, and Alice was drugged so much she can't recall the night she was raped. If she gets an abortion, then people will still know she had sex out of wedlock and she'll still deal with SlutShaming from people who don't know the full context of her situation.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Alice and Bob don't truly love each other, and [[AwfulWeddedLife their marriage ends up being a miserable one one]] that ends in their divorce.
* '''Reconstructed''': By the time this happens, the town's gossip machine has moved on to other things, so Alice's honor is secure, and she lives a fine life with herchild.
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* '''PlayedFor for Laughs''': ???
* '''PlayedFor for Drama''': Alice's child is a ChildByRape, and Alice was drugged so much she can't recall the night she was raped. If she gets an abortion, then people will still know she had sex out of wedlock and she'll still deal with SlutShaming from people who don't know the full context of her situation.
* '''Reconstructed''': By the time this happens, the town's gossip machine has moved on to other things, so Alice's honor is secure, and she lives a fine life with her
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* '''Invoked''': [[TheBabyTrap Bob intentionally gets Alice pregnant to force her to marry him.
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* '''Invoked''': [[TheBabyTrap Bob intentionally gets Alice pregnant to force her to marry him. ]]
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* '''Double Subverted''': ???Bob was lying to spare her feelings.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
Bob goes back and forth about marrying Alice.
* '''Averted''':???
*Bob never considers marrying Alice.
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* '''Invoked''': ???[[TheBabyTrap Bob intentionally gets Alice pregnant to force her to marry him.
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* '''Reconstructed''': ???By the time this happens, the town's gossip machine has moved on to other things, so Alice's honor is secure, and she lives a fine life with her child.
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* '''Exaggerated''': ???Alice only kissed a man outside of wedlock, yet will still face rumors of SlutShaming if word gets out, so Bob proposes to her.
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Alice proposes to Bob when she gets pregnant, even though she knows he's not the father.
* '''Subverted''':???Bob proposes to Alice when she is pregnant outside of wedlock, yet had been planning to do so even if she weren't pregnant because he does genuinely love her. The pregnancy just happened to align with when he was planning to propose to her.
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'''Basic Trope''': ???
A man offers to marry a woman to protect her honor.
* '''Straight''':???Alice is pregnant, so Bob proposes to her so she can avoid the inevitable SlutShaming that would occur if she weren't married.
* '''Straight''':
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* '''Downplayed''': ???
Alice and Bob were already engaged when she got pregnant, so they just move the wedding date to avoid rumors from ruining Alice's reputation.
* '''Justified''':???The setting they live in sees the idea of sex before marriage as inexcusable.
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* '''Defied''': ???Alice rejects Bob's proposal because he's only doing it out of honor and not for love.
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* '''Deconstructed''': ???Alice and Bob don't truly love each other, and their marriage ends up being a miserable one that ends in their divorce.
* '''Played For Drama''': Alice's child is a ChildByRape, and Alice was drugged so much she can't recall the night she was raped. If she gets an abortion, then people will still know she had sex out of wedlock and she'll still deal with SlutShaming from people who don't know the full context of her situation.
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'''Basic Trope''': A man proposes marriage to a pregnant woman to protect her reputation.
* '''Straight''': Alice finds out she's pregnant, but has no idea who the father is. Bob agrees to marry her.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob meets Alice (six months pregnant) for the first time on the bus. He sees that she has no ring, and proposes to her right then and there.
* '''Downplayed''':
** Bob ''is'' the father, and he feels that the honorable thing to do is to be there for Alice and his child, so [[ShotgunWedding he asks Alice to marry him]].
** Alice is in a relationship with Bob, and one day she is [[RapeAsDrama raped on her way home from work]]. She finds out she is [[ChildByRape pregnant]], and Bob (already supportive of her) asks her to marry him, so he can be there for her all the time.
* '''Justified''':
** AliceAndBob live in a world where a woman who is pregnant outside of wedlock is considered DefiledForever.
** Single motherhood is ''hard''. Alice is a [[PlatonicLifePartners dear friend]], and Bob just wants to make sure she'll have someone around to help take care of the baby and bring in money.
** Alice can't afford health insurance, and is worried about what would happen if she and her child were to get sick. Her close friend Bob works a job with ''great'' insurance for its employees... as well as their spouse and spouse's children.
* '''Inverted''':
** Alice is pregnant, and has no idea who the father is. She asks Bob to marry her... Or [[MyNameIsEarl tricks him into doing so.]]
** Bob turns down Alice because she's pregnant and/or because the child is not his.
** The father of Alice's baby, afraid of being tied down to a woman he doesn't love out of duty, is spurred on to elope with the one he does.
* '''Subverted''':
** Bob asks Alice if she'd like to marry him, but Alice says she doesn't need a man to provide for her or the baby.
** Bob takes notice of Alice and her conspicuously absent wedding ring, gets down on his knees... And prays that this sinful woman will see the light of God. Then he walks away, whistling.
* '''Double Subverted''': But Bob forms a close bond with Alice, helps her to raise the baby, and eventually they do get married.
* '''Parodied''': Alice buys a puppy. Bob thinks it's terrible that a single woman could even think of making that kind of commitment without a man around to provide for her, and proposes.
* '''Straight''': Alice finds out she's pregnant, but has no idea who the father is. Bob agrees to marry her.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob meets Alice (six months pregnant) for the first time on the bus. He sees that she has no ring, and proposes to her right then and there.
* '''Downplayed''':
** Bob ''is'' the father, and he feels that the honorable thing to do is to be there for Alice and his child, so [[ShotgunWedding he asks Alice to marry him]].
** Alice is in a relationship with Bob, and one day she is [[RapeAsDrama raped on her way home from work]]. She finds out she is [[ChildByRape pregnant]], and Bob (already supportive of her) asks her to marry him, so he can be there for her all the time.
* '''Justified''':
** AliceAndBob live in a world where a woman who is pregnant outside of wedlock is considered DefiledForever.
** Single motherhood is ''hard''. Alice is a [[PlatonicLifePartners dear friend]], and Bob just wants to make sure she'll have someone around to help take care of the baby and bring in money.
** Alice can't afford health insurance, and is worried about what would happen if she and her child were to get sick. Her close friend Bob works a job with ''great'' insurance for its employees... as well as their spouse and spouse's children.
* '''Inverted''':
** Alice is pregnant, and has no idea who the father is. She asks Bob to marry her... Or [[MyNameIsEarl tricks him into doing so.]]
** Bob turns down Alice because she's pregnant and/or because the child is not his.
** The father of Alice's baby, afraid of being tied down to a woman he doesn't love out of duty, is spurred on to elope with the one he does.
* '''Subverted''':
** Bob asks Alice if she'd like to marry him, but Alice says she doesn't need a man to provide for her or the baby.
** Bob takes notice of Alice and her conspicuously absent wedding ring, gets down on his knees... And prays that this sinful woman will see the light of God. Then he walks away, whistling.
* '''Double Subverted''': But Bob forms a close bond with Alice, helps her to raise the baby, and eventually they do get married.
* '''Parodied''': Alice buys a puppy. Bob thinks it's terrible that a single woman could even think of making that kind of commitment without a man around to provide for her, and proposes.
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'''Basic Trope''': A man proposes marriage to a pregnant woman to protect her reputation.
???
* '''Straight''':Alice finds out she's pregnant, but has no idea who the father is. Bob agrees to marry her.
???
* '''Exaggerated''':Bob meets Alice (six months pregnant) for the first time on the bus. He sees that she has no ring, and proposes to her right then and there.
???
*'''Downplayed''':
** Bob ''is'' the father, and he feels that the honorable thing to do is to be there for Alice and his child, so [[ShotgunWedding he asks Alice to marry him]].
** Alice is in a relationship with Bob, and one day she is [[RapeAsDrama raped on her way home from work]]. She finds out she is [[ChildByRape pregnant]], and Bob (already supportive of her) asks her to marry him, so he can be there for her all the time.
'''Downplayed''': ???
*'''Justified''':
** AliceAndBob live in a world where a woman who is pregnant outside of wedlock is considered DefiledForever.
** Single motherhood is ''hard''. Alice is a [[PlatonicLifePartners dear friend]], and Bob just wants to make sure she'll have someone around to help take care of the baby and bring in money.
** Alice can't afford health insurance, and is worried about what would happen if she and her child were to get sick. Her close friend Bob works a job with ''great'' insurance for its employees... as well as their spouse and spouse's children.
'''Justified''': ???
*'''Inverted''':
** Alice is pregnant, and has no idea who the father is. She asks Bob to marry her... Or [[MyNameIsEarl tricks him into doing so.]]
** Bob turns down Alice because she's pregnant and/or because the child is not his.
** The father of Alice's baby, afraid of being tied down to a woman he doesn't love out of duty, is spurred on to elope with the one he does.
'''Inverted''': ???
*'''Subverted''':
** Bob asks Alice if she'd like to marry him, but Alice says she doesn't need a man to provide for her or the baby.
** Bob takes notice of Alice and her conspicuously absent wedding ring, gets down on his knees... And prays that this sinful woman will see the light of God. Then he walks away, whistling.
'''Subverted''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''':But Bob forms a close bond with Alice, helps her to raise the baby, and eventually they do get married.
???
* '''Parodied''':Alice buys a puppy. Bob thinks it's terrible that a single woman could even think of making that kind of commitment without a man around to provide for her, and proposes.???
* '''Straight''':
* '''Exaggerated''':
*
** Bob ''is'' the father, and he feels that the honorable thing to do is to be there for Alice and his child, so [[ShotgunWedding he asks Alice to marry him]].
** Alice is in a relationship with Bob, and one day she is [[RapeAsDrama raped on her way home from work]]. She finds out she is [[ChildByRape pregnant]], and Bob (already supportive of her) asks her to marry him, so he can be there for her all the time.
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** AliceAndBob live in a world where a woman who is pregnant outside of wedlock is considered DefiledForever.
** Single motherhood is ''hard''. Alice is a [[PlatonicLifePartners dear friend]], and Bob just wants to make sure she'll have someone around to help take care of the baby and bring in money.
** Alice can't afford health insurance, and is worried about what would happen if she and her child were to get sick. Her close friend Bob works a job with ''great'' insurance for its employees... as well as their spouse and spouse's children.
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** Alice is pregnant, and has no idea who the father is. She asks Bob to marry her... Or [[MyNameIsEarl tricks him into doing so.]]
** Bob turns down Alice because she's pregnant and/or because the child is not his.
** The father of Alice's baby, afraid of being tied down to a woman he doesn't love out of duty, is spurred on to elope with the one he does.
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** Bob asks Alice if she'd like to marry him, but Alice says she doesn't need a man to provide for her or the baby.
** Bob takes notice of Alice and her conspicuously absent wedding ring, gets down on his knees... And prays that this sinful woman will see the light of God. Then he walks away, whistling.
* '''Double Subverted''':
* '''Parodied''':
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* '''Averted''': Alice is pregnant outside of wedlock, but Bob doesn't ask her hand in marriage.
* '''Enforced''': The writers had always planned to turn the PlatonicLifePartners into a family unit, but [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Alice's actress' real-life pregnancy]] comes a bit too early to write into that storyline, so they take a shortcut.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Oh, Bob... That's very sweet, but we're not in some 19th century Irish village."
* '''Invoked''': Alice fakes a pregnancy, and spins a heartbreaking sob-story around it, in order to convince NiceGuy Bob to marry her.
* '''Enforced''': The writers had always planned to turn the PlatonicLifePartners into a family unit, but [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Alice's actress' real-life pregnancy]] comes a bit too early to write into that storyline, so they take a shortcut.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Oh, Bob... That's very sweet, but we're not in some 19th century Irish village."
* '''Invoked''': Alice fakes a pregnancy, and spins a heartbreaking sob-story around it, in order to convince NiceGuy Bob to marry her.
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* '''Averted''': Alice is pregnant outside of wedlock, but Bob doesn't ask her hand in marriage.
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* '''Enforced''':The writers had always planned to turn the PlatonicLifePartners into a family unit, but [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Alice's actress' real-life pregnancy]] comes a bit too early to write into that storyline, so they take a shortcut.
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* '''Lampshaded''':"Oh, Bob... That's very sweet, but we're not in some 19th century Irish village."
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* '''Invoked''':Alice fakes a pregnancy, and spins a heartbreaking sob-story around it, in order to convince NiceGuy Bob to marry her.???
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* '''Defied''':
** Bob is afraid of what others will think of him for taking "[[DefiledForever damaged goods]]" as his wife, so he does nothing.
** Alternatively, Alice turns down the proposal. (She doesn't know Bob well enough, she doesn't find him attractive, she doesn't like him, she doesn't feel like she needs a man to provide for her or the baby, she wants to MarryForLove, etc.)
* '''Discussed''':
-->'''Bob:''' I do love you, Alice, but... Platonically, you know?\\
'''Alice:''' Hmm... Would you marry me if we're both single when we're forty?\\
'''Bob:''' ''[laughing]'' No.\\
'''Alice:''' What if some heartless cad gets me pregnant and runs off in the night, leaving me raising a baby alone [[DeterminedHomesteadersWife with crops to harvest and bandits to fight off?]]\\
'''Bob:''' It's a deal.
* '''Conversed''': "Ugh, she's not really going to marry ''that'' loser, is she?" "Well, [[ValuesDissonance we may not like it]], but in the world they live in it's realistically her only chance for a decent life..."
* '''Deconstructed''': This has a lot of ValuesDissonance; in some more traditional cultures, this is a way of protecting a woman's reputation and ensuring that ''someone'' will be able to support her ''and'' the baby (see "Justified"). In other societies where sex and babies outside of marriage are more or less accepted, this is seen as anachronistic and sexist.
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice marries Bob because she loves him, not because she's knocked up and needs a provider.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice is MistakenForPregnant, and Bob has been reading too many {{Chivalric Romance}}s.
** Bob is afraid of what others will think of him for taking "[[DefiledForever damaged goods]]" as his wife, so he does nothing.
** Alternatively, Alice turns down the proposal. (She doesn't know Bob well enough, she doesn't find him attractive, she doesn't like him, she doesn't feel like she needs a man to provide for her or the baby, she wants to MarryForLove, etc.)
* '''Discussed''':
-->'''Bob:''' I do love you, Alice, but... Platonically, you know?\\
'''Alice:''' Hmm... Would you marry me if we're both single when we're forty?\\
'''Bob:''' ''[laughing]'' No.\\
'''Alice:''' What if some heartless cad gets me pregnant and runs off in the night, leaving me raising a baby alone [[DeterminedHomesteadersWife with crops to harvest and bandits to fight off?]]\\
'''Bob:''' It's a deal.
* '''Conversed''': "Ugh, she's not really going to marry ''that'' loser, is she?" "Well, [[ValuesDissonance we may not like it]], but in the world they live in it's realistically her only chance for a decent life..."
* '''Deconstructed''': This has a lot of ValuesDissonance; in some more traditional cultures, this is a way of protecting a woman's reputation and ensuring that ''someone'' will be able to support her ''and'' the baby (see "Justified"). In other societies where sex and babies outside of marriage are more or less accepted, this is seen as anachronistic and sexist.
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice marries Bob because she loves him, not because she's knocked up and needs a provider.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice is MistakenForPregnant, and Bob has been reading too many {{Chivalric Romance}}s.
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* '''Defied''':
** Bob is afraid of what others will think of him for taking "[[DefiledForever damaged goods]]" as his wife, so he does nothing.
** Alternatively, Alice turns down the proposal. (She doesn't know Bob well enough, she doesn't find him attractive, she doesn't like him, she doesn't feel like she needs a man to provide for her or the baby, she wants to MarryForLove, etc.)
'''Defied''': ???
*'''Discussed''':
-->'''Bob:''' I do love you, Alice, but... Platonically, you know?\\
'''Alice:''' Hmm... Would you marry me if we're both single when we're forty?\\
'''Bob:''' ''[laughing]'' No.\\
'''Alice:''' What if some heartless cad gets me pregnant and runs off in the night, leaving me raising a baby alone [[DeterminedHomesteadersWife with crops to harvest and bandits to fight off?]]\\
'''Bob:''' It's a deal.
'''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''':"Ugh, she's not really going to marry ''that'' loser, is she?" "Well, [[ValuesDissonance we may not like it]], but in the world they live in it's realistically her only chance for a decent life..."
???
* '''Deconstructed''':This has a lot of ValuesDissonance; in some more traditional cultures, this is a way of protecting a woman's reputation and ensuring that ''someone'' will be able to support her ''and'' the baby (see "Justified"). In other societies where sex and babies outside of marriage are more or less accepted, this is seen as anachronistic and sexist.
???
* '''Reconstructed''':Alice marries Bob because she loves him, not because she's knocked up and needs a provider.
???
* '''Played For Laughs''':Alice is MistakenForPregnant, and Bob has been reading too many {{Chivalric Romance}}s.???
** Bob is afraid of what others will think of him for taking "[[DefiledForever damaged goods]]" as his wife, so he does nothing.
** Alternatively, Alice turns down the proposal. (She doesn't know Bob well enough, she doesn't find him attractive, she doesn't like him, she doesn't feel like she needs a man to provide for her or the baby, she wants to MarryForLove, etc.)
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-->'''Bob:''' I do love you, Alice, but... Platonically, you know?\\
'''Alice:''' Hmm... Would you marry me if we're both single when we're forty?\\
'''Bob:''' ''[laughing]'' No.\\
'''Alice:''' What if some heartless cad gets me pregnant and runs off in the night, leaving me raising a baby alone [[DeterminedHomesteadersWife with crops to harvest and bandits to fight off?]]\\
'''Bob:''' It's a deal.
* '''Conversed''':
* '''Deconstructed''':
* '''Reconstructed''':
* '''Played For Laughs''':
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* '''Justified''': AliceAndBob live in a world where a woman who is pregnant outside of wedlock is considered DefiledForever.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** AliceAndBob live in a world where a woman who is pregnant outside of wedlock is consideredDefiledForever.DefiledForever.
** Single motherhood is ''hard''. Alice is a [[PlatonicLifePartners dear friend]], and Bob just wants to make sure she'll have someone around to help take care of the baby and bring in money.
** Alice can't afford health insurance, and is worried about what would happen if she and her child were to get sick. Her close friend Bob works a job with ''great'' insurance for its employees... as well as their spouse and spouse's children.
** AliceAndBob live in a world where a woman who is pregnant outside of wedlock is considered
** Single motherhood is ''hard''. Alice is a [[PlatonicLifePartners dear friend]], and Bob just wants to make sure she'll have someone around to help take care of the baby and bring in money.
** Alice can't afford health insurance, and is worried about what would happen if she and her child were to get sick. Her close friend Bob works a job with ''great'' insurance for its employees... as well as their spouse and spouse's children.
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* '''Basic Trope''': A man proposes marriage to a pregnant woman to protect her reputation.
* '''Played Straight''': Alice finds out she's pregnant, but has no idea who the father is. Bob agrees to marry her.
* '''Played Straight''': Alice finds out she's pregnant, but has no idea who the father is. Bob agrees to marry her.
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** Bob ''is'' the father, and he feels that the honorable thing to do is to be there for Alice and his child, so [[ShotgunWedding he asks Alice to marry him]].
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** Bob ''is'' the father, and he feels that the honorable thing to do is to be there for Alice and his child, so [[ShotgunWedding he asks Alice to marry him]].
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* '''Justified''': AliceAndBob live in a world where a woman who is pregnant outside of wedlock is considered DefiledForever.
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* '''Justified''': AliceAndBob live in a world where a woman who is pregnant outside of wedlock is considered DefiledForever.
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** Alice is pregnant, and has no idea who the father is. She asks Bob to marry her...or [[MyNameIsEarl tricks him into doing so.]]
** Bob turns down Alice because she's pregnant and/or because the child is not his.
** Bob turns down Alice because she's pregnant and/or because the child is not his.
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** Alice is pregnant, and has no idea who the father is. She asks Bob to marry her...or Or [[MyNameIsEarl tricks him into doing so.]]
** Bob turns down Alice because she's pregnant and/or because the child is not his.
** Bob turns down Alice because she's pregnant and/or because the child is not his.
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** Bob takes notice of Alice and her conspicuously absent wedding ring, gets down on his knees... and prays that this sinful woman will see the light of God. Then he walks away, whistling.
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** Bob takes notice of Alice and her conspicuously absent wedding ring, gets down on his knees... and And prays that this sinful woman will see the light of God. Then he walks away, whistling.
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* '''Deconstructed''': This has a lot of ValuesDissonance; in some more traditional cultures, this is a way of protecting a woman's reputation and ensuring that ''someone'' will be able to support her ''and'' the baby (see "Justified"). In other societies where sex and babies outside of marriage are more or less accepted, this is seen as anachronistic and sexist.
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice marries Bob because she loves him, not because she's knocked up and needs a provider.
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice marries Bob because she loves him, not because she's knocked up and needs a provider.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Oh, Bob... that's very sweet, but we're not in some 19th century Irish village."
* '''Averted''': Alice is pregnant outside of wedlock, but Bob doesn't ask her hand in marriage.
* '''Averted''': Alice is pregnant outside of wedlock, but Bob doesn't ask her hand in marriage.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Oh, Bob... that's very sweet, but we're not in some 19th century Irish village."
'''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': Alice is pregnant outside of wedlock, but Bob doesn't ask her hand in marriage.
* '''Averted''': Alice is pregnant outside of wedlock, but Bob doesn't ask her hand in marriage.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Oh, Bob... That's very sweet, but we're not in some 19th century Irish village."
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* '''Discussed''':
-->'''Bob:''' I do love you, Alice, but... platonically, you know?
-->'''Alice:''' Hmm... would you marry me if we're both single when we're forty?
-->'''Bob:''' ''[laughing]'' No.
-->'''Alice:''' What if some heartless cad gets me pregnant and runs off in the night, leaving me raising a baby alone [[DeterminedHomesteadersWife with crops to harvest and bandits to fight off?]]
-->'''Bob:''' It's a deal.
-->'''Bob:''' I do love you, Alice, but... platonically, you know?
-->'''Alice:''' Hmm... would you marry me if we're both single when we're forty?
-->'''Bob:''' ''[laughing]'' No.
-->'''Alice:''' What if some heartless cad gets me pregnant and runs off in the night, leaving me raising a baby alone [[DeterminedHomesteadersWife with crops to harvest and bandits to fight off?]]
-->'''Bob:''' It's a deal.
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* '''Discussed''':
'''Discussed''':
-->'''Bob:''' I do love you, Alice, but...platonically, Platonically, you know?
-->'''Alice:'''know?\\
'''Alice:''' Hmm...would Would you marry me if we're both single when we're forty?
-->'''Bob:'''forty?\\
'''Bob:''' ''[laughing]''No.
-->'''Alice:'''No.\\
'''Alice:''' What if some heartless cad gets me pregnant and runs off in the night, leaving me raising a baby alone [[DeterminedHomesteadersWife with crops to harvest and bandits to fightoff?]]
-->'''Bob:'''off?]]\\
'''Bob:''' It's a deal.
-->'''Bob:''' I do love you, Alice, but...
-->'''Alice:'''
'''Alice:''' Hmm...
-->'''Bob:'''
'''Bob:''' ''[laughing]''
-->'''Alice:'''
'''Alice:''' What if some heartless cad gets me pregnant and runs off in the night, leaving me raising a baby alone [[DeterminedHomesteadersWife with crops to harvest and bandits to fight
-->'''Bob:'''
'''Bob:''' It's a deal.
* '''Deconstructed''': This has a lot of ValuesDissonance; in some more traditional cultures, this is a way of protecting a woman's reputation and ensuring that ''someone'' will be able to support her ''and'' the baby (see "Justified"). In other societies where sex and babies outside of marriage are more or less accepted, this is seen as anachronistic and sexist.
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice marries Bob because she loves him, not because she's knocked up and needs a provider.
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice marries Bob because she loves him, not because she's knocked up and needs a provider.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Almost always is.
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The \"gang of thugs\" bit seems a bit prurient
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** Alice is in a relationship with Bob, and she is [[RapeAsDrama raped by a gang of thugs]] on her way home from work. She finds out she is [[ChildByRape pregnant]], and Bob (already supportive of her) asks her to marry him, so he can be there for her all the time.
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** Alice is in a relationship with Bob, and one day she is [[RapeAsDrama raped by a gang of thugs]] on her way home from work.work]]. She finds out she is [[ChildByRape pregnant]], and Bob (already supportive of her) asks her to marry him, so he can be there for her all the time.
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** Bob is afraid of what others will think of him for taking "damaged goods" as his wife, so he does nothing.
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** Bob is afraid of what others will think of him for taking "damaged goods" "[[DefiledForever damaged goods]]" as his wife, so he does nothing.
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* '''Conversed''':
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* '''Conversed''': "Ugh, she's not really going to marry ''that'' loser, is she?" "Well, [[ValuesDissonance we may not like it]], but in the world they live in it's realistically her only chance for a decent life..."
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** Bob proposes to Alice, but she is not pregnant.
** The father of Alice's baby, afraid of being tied down to a woman he doesn't love out of duty, is spurred on to elope with the one he does.
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** Bob takes notice of Alice and her conspicuously absent wedding ring, and [[MyGirlIsNotASlut shakes his head disapprovingly]].
* '''Double Subverted''': But Bob forms some kind of relationship with Alice, and eventually does marry her.
* '''Double Subverted''': But Bob forms some kind of relationship with Alice, and eventually does marry her.
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** Bob takes notice of Alice and her conspicuously absent wedding ring, gets down on his knees... and [[MyGirlIsNotASlut shakes his head disapprovingly]].
prays that this sinful woman will see the light of God. Then he walks away, whistling.
* '''Double Subverted''': But Bob formssome kind of relationship a close bond with Alice, helps her to raise the baby, and eventually does marry her.they do get married.
* '''Double Subverted''': But Bob forms
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* '''Parodied''':
** See "Exaggerated"
** It turns out Alice is already married but either doesn't have a wedding ring or had taken it off (perhaps due to pregnancy-related finger swelling), and Bob's proposal leads to awkwardness.
* '''Lampshaded''': "You need someone to take care of you and the kid...I could be that someone."
* '''Averted''':
** Alice is not pregnant.
** Alice is pregnant, but she was already married to Bob before she got pregnant.
** Alice is pregnant outside of wedlock, but Bob doesn't ask her hand in marriage.
* '''Enforced''': The setting of the story demands it.
* '''Invoked''': Alice is raped, and Bob hears about it. He's a NiceGuy, and he worries about the implications of DefiledForever for her, so he marries her and raises the rapist's child as his own.
* '''Defied''': Bob is afraid of what others will think of him for taking "damaged goods" as his wife, so he does nothing.
** See "Exaggerated"
** It turns out Alice is already married but either doesn't have a wedding ring or had taken it off (perhaps due to pregnancy-related finger swelling), and Bob's proposal leads to awkwardness.
* '''Lampshaded''': "You need someone to take care of you and the kid...I could be that someone."
* '''Averted''':
** Alice is not pregnant.
** Alice is pregnant, but she was already married to Bob before she got pregnant.
** Alice is pregnant outside of wedlock, but Bob doesn't ask her hand in marriage.
* '''Enforced''': The setting of the story demands it.
* '''Invoked''': Alice is raped, and Bob hears about it. He's a NiceGuy, and he worries about the implications of DefiledForever for her, so he marries her and raises the rapist's child as his own.
* '''Defied''': Bob is afraid of what others will think of him for taking "damaged goods" as his wife, so he does nothing.
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* '''Parodied''':
** See "Exaggerated"
** It turns out'''Parodied''': Alice is already married but either doesn't have buys a wedding ring or had taken it off (perhaps due puppy. Bob thinks it's terrible that a single woman could even think of making that kind of commitment without a man around to pregnancy-related finger swelling), provide for her, and Bob's proposal leads to awkwardness.
proposes.
* '''Lampshaded''':"You need someone to take care of you and the kid...I could be that someone."Oh, Bob... that's very sweet, but we're not in some 19th century Irish village."
*'''Averted''':
** Alice is not pregnant.
** Alice is pregnant, but she was already married to Bob before she got pregnant.
**'''Averted''': Alice is pregnant outside of wedlock, but Bob doesn't ask her hand in marriage.
* '''Enforced''': Thesetting of writers had always planned to turn the story demands it.
PlatonicLifePartners into a family unit, but [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Alice's actress' real-life pregnancy]] comes a bit too early to write into that storyline, so they take a shortcut.
* '''Invoked''': Aliceis raped, fakes a pregnancy, and spins a heartbreaking sob-story around it, in order to convince NiceGuy Bob hears about it. He's a NiceGuy, and he worries about the implications of DefiledForever for her, so he marries her and raises the rapist's child as his own.
to marry her.
*'''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** Bob is afraid of what others will think of him for taking "damaged goods" as his wife, so he does nothing.
** See "Exaggerated"
** It turns out
* '''Lampshaded''':
*
** Alice is not pregnant.
** Alice is pregnant, but she was already married to Bob before she got pregnant.
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* '''Enforced''': The
* '''Invoked''': Alice
*
** Bob is afraid of what others will think of him for taking "damaged goods" as his wife, so he does nothing.
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* '''Conversed''':
* '''Played For Laughs''':
* '''Conversed''':
* '''Played For Laughs''':
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* '''Discussed''':
'''Discussed''':
-->'''Bob:''' I do love you, Alice, but... platonically, you know?
-->'''Alice:''' Hmm... would you marry me if we're both single when we're forty?
-->'''Bob:''' ''[laughing]'' No.
-->'''Alice:''' What if some heartless cad gets me pregnant and runs off in the night, leaving me raising a baby alone [[DeterminedHomesteadersWife with crops to harvest and bandits to fight off?]]
-->'''Bob:''' It's a deal.
*'''Conversed''':
'''Conversed''':
* '''Played ForLaughs''':Laughs''': Alice is MistakenForPregnant, and Bob has been reading too many {{Chivalric Romance}}s.
-->'''Bob:''' I do love you, Alice, but... platonically, you know?
-->'''Alice:''' Hmm... would you marry me if we're both single when we're forty?
-->'''Bob:''' ''[laughing]'' No.
-->'''Alice:''' What if some heartless cad gets me pregnant and runs off in the night, leaving me raising a baby alone [[DeterminedHomesteadersWife with crops to harvest and bandits to fight off?]]
-->'''Bob:''' It's a deal.
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** Alternatively, Alice turns down the proposal. (She doesn't know Bob well enough, she doesn't find him attractive, she doesn't like him, she doesn't feel like she needs a man to provide for her or the baby, she wants to MarryForLove, etc.)
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* '''Downplayed''': Bob ''is'' the father, and he feels that the honorable thing to do is to be there for Alice and his child, so [[ShotgunWedding he asks Alice to marry him]].
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** Bob ''is'' the father, and he feels that the honorable thing to do is to be there for Alice and his child, so [[ShotgunWedding he asks Alice to marry him]].
** Bob ''is'' the father, and he feels that the honorable thing to do is to be there for Alice and his child, so [[ShotgunWedding he asks Alice to marry him]].
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* '''Inverted''': Alice is pregnant, and has no idea who the father is. She asks Bob to marry her...or [[MyNameIsEarl tricks him into doing so.]]
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** Alice is pregnant, and has no idea who the father is. She asks Bob to marry her...or [[MyNameIsEarl tricks him into doing so.]]
** Alice is pregnant, and has no idea who the father is. She asks Bob to marry her...or [[MyNameIsEarl tricks him into doing so.]]
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* '''Subverted''': Bob asks Alice if she'd like to marry him, but Alice says she doesn't need a man to provide for her or the baby.
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Bob asks Alice if she'd like to marry him, but Alice says she doesn't need a man to provide for her or the baby.
** Bob asks Alice if she'd like to marry him, but Alice says she doesn't need a man to provide for her or the baby.
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* '''Parodied''': See "Exaggerated"
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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
** See "Exaggerated"
** See "Exaggerated"
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* '''Averted''': Alice is not pregnant.
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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
** Alice is not pregnant.
** Alice is not pregnant.
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** Alice is in a relationship with Bob, and she is [[RapeAsDrama raped by a gang of thugs]] on her way home from work. She finds out she is [[ChildByRape pregnant]], and Bob (already supportive of her) asks her to marry him, so he can be there for her all the time.
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** Bob takes notice of Alice and her conspicuously absent wedding ring, and [[MyGirlIsNotASlut shakes his head disapprovingly]].
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** It turns out Alice is already married but either doesn't have a wedding ring or had taken it off (perhaps due to pregnancy-related finger swelling), and Bob's proposal leads to awkwardness.
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*'''Enforced''': The setting of the story demands it.
*'''Invoked''': Alice is raped, and Bob hears about it. He's a NiceGuy, and he worries about the implications of DefiledForever for her, so he marries her and raises the rapist's child as his own.
*'''Defied''': Bob is afraid of what others will think of him for taking "damaged goods" as his wife, so he does nothing.
*'''Discussed''':
*'''Conversed''':
*'''Played For Laughs''':
*'''Played For Drama''': Almost always is.
*'''Invoked''': Alice is raped, and Bob hears about it. He's a NiceGuy, and he worries about the implications of DefiledForever for her, so he marries her and raises the rapist's child as his own.
*'''Defied''': Bob is afraid of what others will think of him for taking "damaged goods" as his wife, so he does nothing.
*'''Discussed''':
*'''Conversed''':
*'''Played For Laughs''':
*'''Played For Drama''': Almost always is.
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*'''Basic Trope''': A man proposes marriage to a pregnant woman to protect her reputation.
*'''Played Straight''': Alice finds out she's pregnant, but has no idea who the father is. Bob agrees to marry her.
*'''Exaggerated''': Bob meets Alice (six months pregnant) for the first time on the bus. He sees that she has no ring, and proposes to her right then and there.
*'''Downplayed''': Bob ''is'' the father, and he feels that the honorable thing to do is to be there for Alice and his child, so [[ShotgunWedding he asks Alice to marry him]].
*'''Justified''': AliceAndBob live in a world where a woman who is pregnant outside of wedlock is considered DefiledForever.
*'''Inverted''': Alice is pregnant, and has no idea who the father is. She asks Bob to marry her...or [[MyNameIsEarl tricks him into doing so.]]
** Bob proposes to Alice, but she is not pregnant.
** Bob turns down Alice because she's pregnant and/or because the child is not his.
*'''Subverted''': Bob asks Alice if she'd like to marry him, but Alice says she doesn't need a man to provide for her or the baby.
*'''Double Subverted''': But Bob forms some kind of relationship with Alice, and eventually does marry her.
*'''Deconstructed''': This has a lot of ValuesDissonance; in some more traditional cultures, this is a way of protecting a woman's reputation and ensuring that ''someone'' will be able to support her ''and'' the baby (see "Justified"). In other societies where sex and babies outside of marriage are more or less accepted, this is seen as anachronistic and sexist.
*'''Reconstructed''': Alice marries Bob because she loves him, not because she's knocked up and needs a provider.
*'''Parodied''': See "Exaggerated"
*'''Lampshaded''': "You need someone to take care of you and the kid...I could be that someone."
*'''Averted''': Alice is not pregnant.
** Alice is pregnant, but she was already married to Bob before she got pregnant.
** Alice is pregnant outside of wedlock, but Bob doesn't ask her hand in marriage.
*'''Played Straight''': Alice finds out she's pregnant, but has no idea who the father is. Bob agrees to marry her.
*'''Exaggerated''': Bob meets Alice (six months pregnant) for the first time on the bus. He sees that she has no ring, and proposes to her right then and there.
*'''Downplayed''': Bob ''is'' the father, and he feels that the honorable thing to do is to be there for Alice and his child, so [[ShotgunWedding he asks Alice to marry him]].
*'''Justified''': AliceAndBob live in a world where a woman who is pregnant outside of wedlock is considered DefiledForever.
*'''Inverted''': Alice is pregnant, and has no idea who the father is. She asks Bob to marry her...or [[MyNameIsEarl tricks him into doing so.]]
** Bob proposes to Alice, but she is not pregnant.
** Bob turns down Alice because she's pregnant and/or because the child is not his.
*'''Subverted''': Bob asks Alice if she'd like to marry him, but Alice says she doesn't need a man to provide for her or the baby.
*'''Double Subverted''': But Bob forms some kind of relationship with Alice, and eventually does marry her.
*'''Deconstructed''': This has a lot of ValuesDissonance; in some more traditional cultures, this is a way of protecting a woman's reputation and ensuring that ''someone'' will be able to support her ''and'' the baby (see "Justified"). In other societies where sex and babies outside of marriage are more or less accepted, this is seen as anachronistic and sexist.
*'''Reconstructed''': Alice marries Bob because she loves him, not because she's knocked up and needs a provider.
*'''Parodied''': See "Exaggerated"
*'''Lampshaded''': "You need someone to take care of you and the kid...I could be that someone."
*'''Averted''': Alice is not pregnant.
** Alice is pregnant, but she was already married to Bob before she got pregnant.
** Alice is pregnant outside of wedlock, but Bob doesn't ask her hand in marriage.