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** Bob tells Charlie that it doesn't matter whether or not he's the son of him and the woman who raped him. Because he'll never leave his [[ThickerThanWater own flesh and blood out in the cold.

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** Bob tells Charlie that it doesn't matter whether or not he's the son of him and the woman who raped him. Because he'll never leave his [[ThickerThanWater own flesh and blood flesh]] [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments blood out in the cold.]]
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** Bob tells Charlie that it doesn't matter whether or not he's the son of him and the woman who raped him. Because he'll never leave his [[ThickerThanWater own flesh and blood]] [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments out in the cold.]]

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** Bob tells Charlie that it doesn't matter whether or not he's the son of him and the woman who raped him. Because he'll never leave his [[ThickerThanWater own flesh and blood]] [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments blood out in the cold.]]
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**Alice and Bob were both consenting, but Alice was underage


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** Alice discovers she's pregnant some time after being raped, but the child turns out to be the result of very-much-consensual sex she had prior to being raped.
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* '''Conversed''': [[YouFailBiologyForever "Just why the hell does Alice think her rape child with Bob would be some superior human gene-wise?"]]

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* '''Conversed''': [[YouFailBiologyForever [[ArtisticLicenseBiology "Just why the hell does Alice think her rape child with Bob would be some superior human gene-wise?"]]

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* '''Conversed''':
** "This show makes no sense. Alice has been raped and is now pregnant because of that. Her situation even besides that is also really awful, yet she chooses not to abort, even though everything up to this point has indicated that she could have had an abortion and that she isn't morally opposed to it."
** [[YouFailBiologyForever "Just why the hell does Alice think her rape child with Bob would be some superior human gene-wise?"]]

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* '''Conversed''':
** "This show makes no sense. Alice has been raped and is now pregnant because of that. Her situation even besides that is also really awful, yet she chooses not to abort, even though everything up to this point has indicated that she could have had an abortion and that she isn't morally opposed to it."
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'''Conversed''': [[YouFailBiologyForever "Just why the hell does Alice think her rape child with Bob would be some superior human gene-wise?"]]

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** ...because no one, not even Bob himself,[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale considers it rape.]] Bob even ends up ''falling in love'' [[StockholmSyndrome with his rapist]]
* '''Parodied''': Alice gets raped by Bob. The latter gets pregnant.

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** ...because no one, not even Bob himself,[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale himself, [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale considers it rape.]] Bob even ends up ''falling in love'' [[StockholmSyndrome with his rapist]]
rapist]].
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Alice gets raped by Bob. The latter gets pregnant.


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** Bob tells Charlie that it doesn't matter whether or not he's the son of him and the woman who raped him. Because he'll never leave his [[ThickerThanWater own flesh and blood]] [[HeartwarmingMoments out in the cold.]]

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** Bob tells Charlie that it doesn't matter whether or not he's the son of him and the woman who raped him. Because he'll never leave his [[ThickerThanWater own flesh and blood]] [[HeartwarmingMoments [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments out in the cold.]]

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** Charlie's conception is the result of RapeByProxy.



** Alice knows fully well that [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale no one would come to Bob's aid if he was raped by a woman.]] So she uses this to have a child with him, forcefully.

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** Alice knows fully well that [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale no one would come to Bob's aid if he was raped by a woman.]] So she uses this to have a child with him, forcefully.even though he doesn't share the same sentiment.

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** Alice goes to the hospital and gets the rape kit and morning-after pill. But the M.A.P. doesn't work, and she gets pregnant anyway. So she gets an abortion. However, it turns out that she was pregnant with twins and that the abortion only removed one of the embryos. By the time she discovers this, Alice's pregnancy is late-term so she has to give birth to the remaining child. She leaves Charlie at the fire department, and he is raised in an
orphanage.

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** Alice goes to the hospital and gets the rape kit and morning-after pill. But the M.A.P. doesn't work, and she gets pregnant anyway. So she gets an abortion. However, it turns out that she was pregnant with twins and that the abortion only removed one of the embryos. By the time she discovers this, Alice's pregnancy is late-term so she has to give birth to the remaining child. She leaves Charlie at the fire department, and he is raised in an
an orphanage.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice goes to the hospital and gets the rape kit and morning-after pill. But the M.A.P. doesn't work, and she gets pregnant anyway. So she gets an abortion. However, it turns out that she was pregnant with twins and that the abortion only removed one of the embryos. By the time she discovers this, Alice's pregnancy is late-term so she has to give birth to the remaining child. She leaves Charlie at the fire department, and he is raised in an

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Alice goes to the hospital and gets the rape kit and morning-after pill. But the M.A.P. doesn't work, and she gets pregnant anyway. So she gets an abortion. However, it turns out that she was pregnant with twins and that the abortion only removed one of the embryos. By the time she discovers this, Alice's pregnancy is late-term so she has to give birth to the remaining child. She leaves Charlie at the fire department, and he is raised in an

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice goes to the hospital and gets the rape kit and morning-after pill. But the M.A.P. doesn't work, and she gets pregnant anyway. So she gets an abortion. However, it turns out that she was pregnant with twins and that the abortion only removed one of the embryos. By the time she discovers this, Alice's pregnancy is late-term so she has to give birth to the remaining child. She leaves Charlie at the fire department, and he is raised in an orphanage.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice goes to the hospital and gets the rape kit and morning-after pill. But the M.A.P. doesn't work, and she gets pregnant anyway. So she gets an abortion. However, it turns out that she was pregnant with twins and that the abortion only removed one of the embryos. By the time she discovers this, Alice's pregnancy is late-term so she has to give birth to the remaining child. She leaves Charlie at the fire department, and he is raised in an
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** Charlie is actually the result of
an orphanage.ExtraParentConception, with the rapist being the third parent.
** Charlie's conception involved some QuestionableConsent.
** Charlie's conception was consensual, but one of his parents was [[TeenPregnancy under]][[{{Squick}} age]] at that time.
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** Because of the anger she feels at being raped, and because of the humiliation she feels at raising Charles, she becomes an [[AbusiveParents Abusive Parent]] [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil and takes it out on her son]]. She beats him, malnourishes him, witholds affection, loudly states ThatThingIsNotMyChild even when he can hear, and altogether makes his childhood miserable. Finally, when she states that she wishes he was dead, Charles has enough and runs away. He lives alone, with low self-esteem and anger of his own.

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** Because of the anger she feels at being raped, and because of the humiliation she feels at raising Charles, she Alice becomes an [[AbusiveParents Abusive Parent]] [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil and takes it out on her son]]. She beats him, malnourishes starves him, witholds affection, loudly states ThatThingIsNotMyChild even when he can hear, and altogether makes his childhood miserable. Finally, when she states that she wishes he was dead, Charles has enough and runs away. He lives alone, with low self-esteem and anger swears to never have any kids of his own.own, so as to end his bloodline.



** Charles overcompensates for his origin by being abnormally kind and heroic, so when he moves to a new community he is only judged by his actions and thus becomes [[HundredPercentHeroismRating the most popular person in his new home]]. When his friends discover his origins, they still accept Charles and reassure him that his conception has no baring on who he is. They even go so far as to verbally defend Charlie when others attempt to bully or smear him based on his upbringing.
** Charles gets found sleeping under a highway overpass by a kind sterile couple, and they decide to give him shelter for the night. Within a year he is HappilyAdopted and finally feels loved and cared for. When he grows up and has children of his own he raises them with compassion and tenderness, making sure to be the opposite of what his mother was to him.

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** Charles overcompensates for his origin by being abnormally kind and heroic, so when he moves to a new community he is only judged by his actions and thus becomes [[HundredPercentHeroismRating the most popular person in his new home]]. When his friends discover his origins, they still accept Charles and reassure him that his conception has no baring bearing on who he is. They even go so far as to verbally defend Charlie when others attempt to bully or smear him based on his upbringing.origins.
** After running away, Charles gets found sleeping under a highway overpass by a kind sterile couple, and they decide to give him shelter for the night. Within a year year, he is HappilyAdopted and finally feels loved and cared for. When he grows up and has children of his own own, he raises them with compassion and tenderness, making sure to be the opposite of what his mother was to him. him and teaching them RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil.
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** Charlie thinks that his father has been raping and abusing his mother. [[AbuseMistake Turns out, it was actually all]] SafeSaneAndConsensual {{BDSM}} between his father and mother.

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** Charlie thinks that his father has been raping and abusing his mother. [[AbuseMistake Turns out, it was actually all]] SafeSaneAndConsensual {{BDSM}} UsefulNotes/{{BDSM}} between his father and mother.
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** ...[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale because no one, not even Bob himself, considers it rape.]] Bob even ends up ''falling in love'' [[StockholmSyndrome with his rapist]]

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** ...[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale because no one, not even Bob himself, himself,[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale considers it rape.]] Bob even ends up ''falling in love'' [[StockholmSyndrome with his rapist]]
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** Bob is actually ''delighted'' for being raped by Alice because he managed to get laid. So he gleefully pays for child support and even marries Alice.

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** Bob is actually ''delighted'' for being raped by Alice because [[AManIsAlwaysEager he managed to get laid. laid.]] So he gleefully pays for child support and even marries Alice.
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** [[YouFailBiologyForever "Just why the hell does Alice think her rape child with Bob would be some superior human gene-wise?]]

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** [[YouFailBiologyForever "Just why the hell does Alice think her rape child with Bob would be some superior human gene-wise?]]gene-wise?"]]

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** Alice comes close to raping Bob. [[IJusWantMyBelovedToBeHappy But she stops herself before she can and tells herself that if she does love him, she won't subject him to something really horrible]]

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** Alice comes close to raping Bob. [[IJusWantMyBelovedToBeHappy [[IJustWantMyBelovedToBeHappy But she stops herself before she can and tells herself that if she does love him, she won't subject him to something really horrible]]



* '''Invoked''': Bob keeps track of his victims' menstrual cycles so he can impregnate them.

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Bob keeps track of his victims' menstrual cycles so he can impregnate them.



** Bob tells Charlie that it doesn't matter whether or not he's the son of him and the woman who raped him. Because he'll never leave his [[ThickerThanWater own flesh and blood]] [[Heartwarming out in the cold.]]

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** Bob tells Charlie that it doesn't matter whether or not he's the son of him and the woman who raped him. Because he'll never leave his [[ThickerThanWater own flesh and blood]] [[Heartwarming [[HeartwarmingMoments out in the cold.]]
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** (Related to third straight example) Alice [[{{Yandere}} ''really really'' loves]] Bob and wanted a child who would be a reminder of their "love".

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** (Related to third straight example) Alice [[{{Yandere}} ''really really'' loves]] [[{{Yandere}} "loves"]] Bob and wanted a child who would be a reminder of their "love".



** Bob tells his son that he was conceived by rape. Then Bob casually says "To be honest, I'm surprised you're here now. [[ButWeUsedACondom Your mother placed a condom on me before having her way.]]

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** Bob tells his son that he was conceived by rape. Then Bob casually says "To be honest, I'm surprised you're here now. [[ButWeUsedACondom Your mother placed a condom on me before having her way.]]]]"
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** (Related to third straight example) Alice [[Yandere ''really really'' loves]] Bob and wanted a child who would be a reminder of their "love".

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** (Related to third straight example) Alice [[Yandere [[{{Yandere}} ''really really'' loves]] Bob and wanted a child who would be a reminder of their "love".
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** Alice had sex with Bob but with QuestionableConsent on Bob's part.[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale Nevertheless, not much people bat an eye and consider it rape.]]

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** Alice had sex with Bob but with QuestionableConsent on Bob's part. [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale Nevertheless, not much people bat an eye and consider it rape.]]
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** Bob gets raped by Alice and the months later, Alice gives birth to his son, Charlie.

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** Bob gets raped by Alice and the then months later, Alice gives birth to his son, Charlie.
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** Bob gets raped by Alice and the months later, Alice gives birth to his son, Charlie.


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** Bob was raped by multiple women, which means that Charlie has lots of paternal half siblings.


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** Alice had sex with Bob but with QuestionableConsent on Bob's part.[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale Nevertheless, not much people bat an eye and consider it rape.]]


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** (Related to third straight example) Alice [[Yandere ''really really'' loves]] Bob and wanted a child who would be a reminder of their "love".
*** Alternatively, [[StalkerWithATestTube Alice believes that they both have superior genes, so she wanted a child who'd inherit them]]


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*** Or in the case of Alice being the rapist, she gets it after raping Bob.


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** Charlie suspects that his father Bob was raped by his mother. But when he finally meets and asks his father, Bob tells his son that ''he does'' love his mother back and that it was loving and consensual sex.


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** ...[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale because no one, not even Bob himself, considers it rape.]] Bob even ends up ''falling in love'' [[StockholmSyndrome with his rapist]]


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** Bob tells his son that he was conceived by rape. Then Bob casually says "To be honest, I'm surprised you're here now. [[ButWeUsedACondom Your mother placed a condom on me before having her way.]]


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** Alice comes close to raping Bob. [[IJusWantMyBelovedToBeHappy But she stops herself before she can and tells herself that if she does love him, she won't subject him to something really horrible]]


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** Alice rapes Bob at a time that she's ovulating.


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** Alice knows fully well that [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale no one would come to Bob's aid if he was raped by a woman.]] So she uses this to have a child with him, forcefully.


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** Alice places a condom on Bob before having her way.
*** Or, Alice aborts the child so that there would be no "evidence" of her raping Bob.
** Bob tells Charlie that it doesn't matter whether or not he's the son of him and the woman who raped him. Because he'll never leave his [[ThickerThanWater own flesh and blood]] [[Heartwarming out in the cold.]]


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** "Your damn mother forced herself on me, Charlie".


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** [[YouFailBiologyForever "Just why the hell does Alice think her rape child with Bob would be some superior human gene-wise?]]


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** Alice's son, Charlie, looks an awful lot like Bob. It's also been hinted lots of times that Bob was raped by Alice.


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** Bob is left enraged that not only will ''no one'' sympathize with him because of the [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale "girls can't rape boys" mentality]] but he's also ''forced to pay for child support'' for the son he never wanted.
** Alice's father doesn't want his family to be known for having lots of members born out of wedlock. [[ShotgunWedding So he forces poor Bob to marry his daughter after he finds out she's pregnant.]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale The fact that everyone refuses to believe that Bob is the victim of the whole situation causes him to have a breakdown]]
** After meeting Charlie, Bob gets enraged seeing the one person who'll keep reminding him of the time Alice got away scot-free from raping him. [[OffingTheOffspring He ends up trying to kill Charlie.]]


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** But Bob, after meeting him, grows to love his son and tells himself that he'll always be there for him.
** Eventually, Bob's friend or relative realizes how messed up his situation is and defends him. Thanks to that, Bob gets to divorce Alice and even take custody of his son.
** But before he can pull through with finally finishing him off, Bob can't bring himself to kill a boy who never asked to be born in the first place. Bob tearfully stops and then apologizes to Charlie and tells him he'd never hurt him ever again.


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** Bob is actually ''delighted'' for being raped by Alice because he managed to get laid. So he gleefully pays for child support and even marries Alice.


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** Bob can't find it in him to love the boy who was conceived the day Alice took advantage of him. The fact that he gets no comfort ''at all'' drives him to depression. And when finding out how broken his father has become, Charlie ends up feeling guilty for existing.
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** Because of the anger she feels at being raped, and because of the humiliation she feels at raising Charles, she becomes an [[AbusiveParents Abusive Parent]] [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil and takes it out on her son]]. She beats him, malnourishes him, witholds affection, loudly states ThatThingIsNotMyChild even when he can hear, and altogether makes his childhood miserable. Finally, when she states that she wishes he was dead, Charles has enough and runs away. He lives alone, with low self-esteem and anger of his own.


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** Charles gets found sleeping under a highway overpass by a kind sterile couple, and they decide to give him shelter for the night. Within a year he is HappilyAdopted and finally feels loved and cared for. When he grows up and has children of his own he raises them with compassion and tenderness, making sure to be the opposite of what his mother was to him.
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** Alice loves her son Charles, but because of his origin he is ostracized and treated with suspicion by the rest of society. People say that [[InTheBlood Charles's blood is tainted]], that he should have been aborted, that he is probably going to be a rapist like his father, and a slew of other hurtful things. This all causes Charles to have low self-worth and to try his best to hide his past.

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** Alice loves her son Charles, but because of his origin [[LoserSonOfLoserDad he is ostracized and treated with suspicion suspicion]] by the rest of society. People say that [[InTheBlood Charles's blood is tainted]], that he should have been aborted, that he is probably going to be a rapist like his father, and a slew of other hurtful things. This all causes Charles to have low self-worth and to try his best to hide his past.

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* '''Implied''': Alice gets raped. Nine months later, she abandons a newborn baby by putting it in a container or leaves it at a safe haven site.

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Alice gets raped. Nine months later, she abandons a newborn baby by putting it in a container or leaves it at a safe haven site.site.
** There are lots of hints that Alice's son Charles, wasn't conceived out of loving or consensual circumstances.
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** The child is a HalfHumanHybrid because the rapist was some [[FreudWasRight tentacled]] EldritchAbomination.

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** The child is a HalfHumanHybrid because the rapist was some [[FreudWasRight [[NaughtyTentacles tentacled]] EldritchAbomination.

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** "You're a rape baby! Nobody will ever love you Charlie!"
* '''Conversed''': "This show makes no sense. Alice has been raped and is now pregnant because of that. Her situation even besides that is also really awful, yet she chooses not to abort, even though everything up to this point has indicated that she could have had an abortion and that she isn't morally opposed to it."

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** [[KickTheDog "You're a rape baby! Nobody will ever love you Charlie!"
Charlie!"]]
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"This show makes no sense. Alice has been raped and is now pregnant because of that. Her situation even besides that is also really awful, yet she chooses not to abort, even though everything up to this point has indicated that she could have had an abortion and that she isn't morally opposed to it."



** [[MisterSeahorse Bob]] dies as a result of his pregnancy.



** Charles overcompensates for his origin by being abnormally kind and heroic, so when he moves to a new community he is only judged by his actions and thus becomes [[HundredPercentHeroismRating the most popular person in his new home]]. When his friends discover his origins, they still accept Charles and reassure him that his conception has no baring on who he is.

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** Charles overcompensates for his origin by being abnormally kind and heroic, so when he moves to a new community he is only judged by his actions and thus becomes [[HundredPercentHeroismRating the most popular person in his new home]]. When his friends discover his origins, they still accept Charles and reassure him that his conception has no baring on who he is. They even go so far as to verbally defend Charlie when others attempt to bully or smear him based on his upbringing.
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** Charles overcompensates for his origin by being abnormally kind and heroic, so when he moves to a new community he is only judged by his actions and thus becomes [[HundredPercentHeroismRaiting the most popular person in his new home]]. When his friends discover his origins, they still accept Charles and reassure him that his conception has no baring on who he is.

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** Charles overcompensates for his origin by being abnormally kind and heroic, so when he moves to a new community he is only judged by his actions and thus becomes [[HundredPercentHeroismRaiting [[HundredPercentHeroismRating the most popular person in his new home]]. When his friends discover his origins, they still accept Charles and reassure him that his conception has no baring on who he is.
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** Or, alternatively, Alice is forced to keep the child, and when it is born she emotionally neglects the child



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