Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 15 (click to see context) from:
* '''Double Subverted''': She keeps this side of her personality notoriously private, even from her girlfriend, and passes them off as the ButchLesbian equivalent to RealMenWearPink if anyone ever sees her doing them.
to:
* '''Double Subverted''': Subverted''':
** She keeps this side of her personality notoriously private, even from her girlfriend, and passes them off as the ButchLesbian equivalent to RealMenWearPink if anyone ever sees her doingthem.them.
** Alice, the tough-as-nails biker chick, says she has a thing for {{pretty boy}}s. But that's because she's pretending to straight.
** She keeps this side of her personality notoriously private, even from her girlfriend, and passes them off as the ButchLesbian equivalent to RealMenWearPink if anyone ever sees her doing
** Alice, the tough-as-nails biker chick, says she has a thing for {{pretty boy}}s. But that's because she's pretending to straight.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 33 (click to see context) from:
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice still has moments of insecurity; she hasn't quite figured out who she wants to be (and how to be that person) yet, and she worries what people will think of her. She has a [[StrawFeminist habit of putting people down]] [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses who like "girly" things.]]
to:
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice still has moments of insecurity; she hasn't quite figured out who she wants to be (and how to be that person) yet, and she worries what people will think of her. She has a [[StrawFeminist habit of putting people down]] [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses [[RealWomenDontWearDresses who like "girly" things.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* '''Downplayed:''' Alice has short hair and prefers jeans and boots to skirts and high-heels. She almost never wears makeup -- chapstick doesn't count.
to:
* '''Downplayed:''' '''Downplayed''':
** Alice has short hair and prefers jeans and boots to skirts and high-heels. She almost never wears makeup -- chapstick doesn't count.
** Alice has short hair and prefers jeans and boots to skirts and high-heels. She almost never wears makeup -- chapstick doesn't count.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Alice is a bisexual {{Tomboy}} who prefers to date GirlyGirl women, when she dates a woman.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Maybe justified, maybe exploited. Change if wrong please.
Changed line(s) 27 (click to see context) from:
* '''Exploited''': ???
to:
* '''Exploited''': ???Betty is slightly unsure of her sexuality so dates Alice as a sort of middle ground between the genders.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* '''Downplayed:''' Alice has short hair and prefers jeans and boots to skirts and high-heels.
to:
* '''Downplayed:''' Alice has short hair and prefers jeans and boots to skirts and high-heels. She almost never wears makeup -- chapstick doesn't count.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Or, Alice seems to be a ButchLesbian at first, but she's actually bisexual.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added standarized \'Playing With Wiki\' template
Changed line(s) 1,2 (click to see context) from:
* '''Basic Trope''': A woman who identifies as a lesbian, and (in terms of her behavior, speech, and appearance) comes across as "manly."
* '''Played Straight''': Alice wears her hair short, eschews makeup, is rarely (if ever) seen [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses wearing a dress]], likes [[LesbianJock playing]] and watching sports, and prefers beer to fruity cocktails.
* '''Played Straight''': Alice wears her hair short, eschews makeup, is rarely (if ever) seen [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses wearing a dress]], likes [[LesbianJock playing]] and watching sports, and prefers beer to fruity cocktails.
to:
*
Changed line(s) 14 (click to see context) from:
** Alice pees standing up. (Whether or not she has the "equipment" to do this well is another matter entirely...)
to:
** Alice pees standing up. (Whether or not she has the "equipment" to do this well is another matter entirely...) )
Changed line(s) 16 (click to see context) from:
** Alternatively, Alice is a {{tomboy}}, but not necessarily [[TheLadette "butch"]]; however, her [[OneOfTheBoys guy-pals]] suspect she's gay, which quickly becomes a RunningGag in the series.
to:
** Alternatively, Alice is a {{tomboy}}, but not necessarily [[TheLadette "butch"]]; however, her [[OneOfTheBoys guy-pals]] suspect she's gay, which quickly becomes a RunningGag in the series.
Deleted line(s) 18,19 (click to see context) :
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice still has moments of insecurity; she hasn't quite figured out who she wants to be (and how to be that person) yet, and she worries what people will think of her. She has a [[StrawFeminist habit of putting people down]] [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses who like "girly" things.]]
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice figures herself out and pulls herself together. She is happy with how she chooses to express herself, and stops caring what people might (or might not) think. And she also learns that she doesn't have to put others down simply because their interests are not to ''her'' tastes.
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice figures herself out and pulls herself together. She is happy with how she chooses to express herself, and stops caring what people might (or might not) think. And she also learns that she doesn't have to put others down simply because their interests are not to ''her'' tastes.
Changed line(s) 21 (click to see context) from:
** Some days, Alice wears a dress or skirt, some days she wears pants. Some days, she drinks beer. Other days, she drinks Sex on the Beach. On Monday nights, she watches football, weekday afternoons, she watches a SoapOpera.
to:
** Some days, Alice wears a dress or skirt, some days she wears pants. Some days, she drinks beer. Other days, she drinks Sex on the Beach. On Monday nights, she watches football, weekday afternoons, she watches a SoapOpera.
* '''Exploited''': ???
Changed line(s) 29,32 (click to see context) from:
* '''Discussed''': "Gentlemen, we now know what Wilt Chamberlain would have been like if he were born female. Apparently, absolutely nothing else would have been different."
* '''Conversed''': "Every lesbian on TV I see either looks like a drill sergeant or Micky Rourke."
* '''Played For Laughs''': See "Parodied." Bonus points if Alice has PermaStubble. Almost invariably DeadBabyComedy.
* '''Played For Drama''': A ComingOfAge story in which Alice is still trying to figure herself out.
* '''Conversed''': "Every lesbian on TV I see either looks like a drill sergeant or Micky Rourke."
* '''Played For Laughs''': See "Parodied." Bonus points if Alice has PermaStubble. Almost invariably DeadBabyComedy.
* '''Played For Drama''': A ComingOfAge story in which Alice is still trying to figure herself out.
to:
* '''Discussed''': "Gentlemen, we now know what Wilt Chamberlain would have been like if he were born female. Apparently, absolutely nothing else would have been different."
different".
* '''Conversed''': "Every lesbian on TV I see either looks like a drill sergeant or MickyRourke."
Rourke".
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice still has moments of insecurity; she hasn't quite figured out who she wants to be (and how to be that person) yet, and she worries what people will think of her. She has a [[StrawFeminist habit of putting people down]] [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses who like "girly" things.]]
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice figures herself out and pulls herself together. She is happy with how she chooses to express herself, and stops caring what people might (or might not) think. And she also learns that she doesn't have to put others down simply because their interests are not to ''her'' tastes.
* '''Played For Laughs''': See "Parodied." Bonus points if Alice has PermaStubble. Almost invariablyDeadBabyComedy.
leads to BlackComedy.
* '''Played For Drama''': A ComingOfAge story in which Alice is still trying to figure herself out.
* '''Conversed''': "Every lesbian on TV I see either looks like a drill sergeant or Micky
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice still has moments of insecurity; she hasn't quite figured out who she wants to be (and how to be that person) yet, and she worries what people will think of her. She has a [[StrawFeminist habit of putting people down]] [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses who like "girly" things.]]
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice figures herself out and pulls herself together. She is happy with how she chooses to express herself, and stops caring what people might (or might not) think. And she also learns that she doesn't have to put others down simply because their interests are not to ''her'' tastes.
* '''Played For Laughs''': See "Parodied." Bonus points if Alice has PermaStubble. Almost invariably
* '''Played For Drama''': A ComingOfAge story in which Alice is still trying to figure herself out.
Changed line(s) 36,37 (click to see context) from:
to:
%%
%%* '''Implied''': ???
%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
sinkholes
Changed line(s) 23 (click to see context) from:
* '''Averted''': Alice is a very [[TheChick girly]] YamatoNadeshiko, whether she's a lesbian or not.
to:
* '''Averted''': Alice is a very [[TheChick girly]] YamatoNadeshiko, giry whether she's a lesbian or not.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Indentation
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
* '''Justified''': Alice simply doesn't like "girly" things. She was probably like this from [[{{Tomboy}} childhood.]]
to:
* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** Alice simply doesn't like "girly" things. She was probably like this from [[{{Tomboy}} childhood.]]
** Alice simply doesn't like "girly" things. She was probably like this from [[{{Tomboy}} childhood.]]
Changed line(s) 8 (click to see context) from:
* '''Subverted''': Alice has a few "girly" hobbies, like [[FeminineWomenCanCook cooking]], cross-stitching, and a love for babies and kittens.
to:
* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Alice has a few "girly" hobbies, like [[FeminineWomenCanCook cooking]], cross-stitching, and a love for babies and kittens.
** Alice has a few "girly" hobbies, like [[FeminineWomenCanCook cooking]], cross-stitching, and a love for babies and kittens.
Changed line(s) 11 (click to see context) from:
* '''Parodied''': Alice pees standing up. (Whether or not she has the "equipment" to do this well is another matter entirely...)
to:
* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
** Alice pees standing up. (Whether or not she has the "equipment" to do this well is another matter entirely...)
** Alice pees standing up. (Whether or not she has the "equipment" to do this well is another matter entirely...)
Changed line(s) 17 (click to see context) from:
* '''Zig Zagged''': Some days, Alice wears a dress or skirt, some days she wears pants. Some days, she drinks beer. Other days, she drinks Sex on the Beach. On Monday nights, she watches football, weekday afternoons, she watches a SoapOpera.
to:
* '''Zig Zagged''': Zagged''':
** Some days, Alice wears a dress or skirt, some days she wears pants. Some days, she drinks beer. Other days, she drinks Sex on the Beach. On Monday nights, she watches football, weekday afternoons, she watches a SoapOpera.
** Some days, Alice wears a dress or skirt, some days she wears pants. Some days, she drinks beer. Other days, she drinks Sex on the Beach. On Monday nights, she watches football, weekday afternoons, she watches a SoapOpera.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* Downplayed: Alice has short hair and prefers jeans and boots to skirts and high-heels.
to:
* Downplayed: '''Downplayed:''' Alice has short hair and prefers jeans and boots to skirts and high-heels.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* Downplayed: Alice has short hair and prefers jeans and boots to skirts and high-heels.
Changed line(s) 5,6 (click to see context) from:
* '''Inverted''': Charlie is a CampGay.
** LipstickLesbian
** LipstickLesbian
to:
** Alice lives in a town with a sizeable lesbian population, among whom the butch look happens to be popular.
* '''Inverted''':Charlie is a CampGay.
**LipstickLesbian
* '''Inverted''':
**
Added DiffLines:
** Alice's friends tend to be guys, and when she's with them she tends to join in with the blokey atmosphere. But when she goes on the pull, SheCleansUpNicely.
Added DiffLines:
** The author wanted to include a lesbian character, and seems to think that's what all lesbians are like.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Or, Alice is a through-and-through LipstickLesbian, but the characters treat her like she's the manliest person they've ever met, solely on the basis that she's attracted to girls.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 12 (click to see context) from:
** Alternatively, Alice is a {{tomboy}}, but not necessarily [[TheLadette "butch"]]; however, her [[OneOfTheBoys guy-pals]] suspects she's gay, which quickly becomes a RunningGag in-universe.
to:
** Alternatively, Alice is a {{tomboy}}, but not necessarily [[TheLadette "butch"]]; however, her [[OneOfTheBoys guy-pals]] suspects suspect she's gay, which quickly becomes a RunningGag in-universe.in the series.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Alternatively, Alice is a {{tomboy}}, but not necessarily [[TheLadette "butch"]]; however, her [[OneOfTheBoys guy-pals]] suspects she's gay, which quickly becomes a RunningGag in-universe.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 24,25 (click to see context) from:
to:
Back to ButchLesbian
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 11 (click to see context) from:
** Alice is by far the most "manly" one of the cast - compared to her, the male characters are all complete pansies.
to:
** Alice is by far the most "manly" one of the cast - compared to her, the male characters are all complete pansies.wusses.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
No please, let\'s not.
Deleted line(s) 17 (click to see context) :
** Alternatively, the author is [[UnfortunateImplications promoting stereotypes]], for whatever reason(s), intentionally or not.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 9 (click to see context) from:
* '''Double Subverted''': She keeps this side of her personality notoriously private, even from her girlfriend.
to:
* '''Double Subverted''': She keeps this side of her personality notoriously private, even from her girlfriend.girlfriend, and passes them off as the ButchLesbian equivalent to RealMenWearPink if anyone ever sees her doing them.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 15,16 (click to see context) from:
* '''Averted''': Alice is TheLadette.
** Alice is a very [[TheChick girly]] YamatoNadeshiko, whether she's a lesbian or not.
** Alice is a very [[TheChick girly]] YamatoNadeshiko, whether she's a lesbian or not.
to:
* '''Averted''': Alice is TheLadette.
**Alice is a very [[TheChick girly]] YamatoNadeshiko, whether she's a lesbian or not.
**
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 15 (click to see context) from:
* '''Averted''': Alice is not a lesbian.
to:
* '''Averted''': Alice is not a lesbian.TheLadette.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
* '''Inverted''': Alice is a LipstickLesbian.
to:
* '''Inverted''': Alice Charlie is a LipstickLesbian.CampGay.
** LipstickLesbian
** LipstickLesbian
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 22 (click to see context) from:
* '''Conversed''': "Every lesbian on TV I see either looks like a drill sergeant or Mickey Rooney."
to:
* '''Conversed''': "Every lesbian on TV I see either looks like a drill sergeant or Mickey Rooney.Micky Rourke."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 22 (click to see context) from:
* '''Conversed''': ???
to:
* '''Conversed''': ???"Every lesbian on TV I see either looks like a drill sergeant or Mickey Rooney."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 10 (click to see context) from:
** Alice is by far the most "manly" one of the cast - the male characters are all comparatively wet.
to:
** Alice is by far the most "manly" one of the cast - compared to her, the male characters are all comparatively wet.complete pansies.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Alice is by far the most "manly" one of the cast - the male characters are all comparatively wet.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 20 (click to see context) from:
* '''Discussed''': "Gentlemen, we now know what Wilt Chamberlain would have been like if he were born female. Apparently, absolutely nothing else would change about him."
to:
* '''Discussed''': "Gentlemen, we now know what Wilt Chamberlain would have been like if he were born female. Apparently, absolutely nothing else would change about him.have been different."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 20 (click to see context) from:
* '''Discussed''': ???
to:
* '''Discussed''': ???"Gentlemen, we now know what Wilt Chamberlain would have been like if he were born female. Apparently, absolutely nothing else would change about him."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Shorttank refers to the "shorts and tank top" combination associated with the character type.
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* '''Played Straight''': Alice wears her hair [[{{Shorttank}} short]], eschews makeup, is rarely (if ever) seen [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses wearing a dress]], likes [[LesbianJock playing]] and watching sports, and prefers beer to fruity cocktails.
to:
* '''Played Straight''': Alice wears her hair [[{{Shorttank}} short]], short, eschews makeup, is rarely (if ever) seen [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses wearing a dress]], likes [[LesbianJock playing]] and watching sports, and prefers beer to fruity cocktails.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Alternatively: Tough-as-nails biker chick Alice cuts her hair short, avoids makeup like the plague... And has an appetite for [[{{Bishonen}} pretty boys]].