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'''Basic Trope''': A character who, despite lacking the magical enhancements of the main cast, still holds their own in a fight.
* '''Straight''': Bob is the only character on the FiveManBand who cannot use any sort of magic. Despite only having a sword (because he's the hero), he is more than capable of being competent in a fight.

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'''Basic Trope''': A character who, despite lacking the magical enhancements of the main cast, still holds their own in a fight.
fight against those that ''DO'' possess magical enhancements.
* '''Straight''': Bob is the only character on the FiveManBand TheTeam who cannot use any sort of magic. Despite only having a sword (because he's the hero), sword, he is more than capable of being competent in a fight.contributing to the team's success.



** Nearly ''everyone'', including animals, can use magic...except for Bob. But he doesn't let this get him down.

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** Nearly ''everyone'', ''Everyone'', including animals, can use magic...except for Bob. But Bob but he doesn't let this get him down.



** Bob, the most ordinary average joe possible, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu can go toe to toe with God, Eldritch Abominations, Reality Warpers and Cosmic Entities]]. And win.
* '''Downplayed''':
** Bob does have magical powers, [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway yet they're so situational and underwhelming,]] that it is as if they didn't exist. So, he has to rely on good-old training and wits to fight alongside his magic-wielding comrades.
** Bob uses [[TryingToCatchMeFightingDirty underhanded tactics]] to get the upper hand.

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** Bob, the most ordinary average joe possible, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu can go toe to toe with God, Eldritch Abominations, Reality Warpers and Cosmic Entities]]. And Entities]] and win.
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'''Downplayed''': Bob does ''does'' have magical powers, [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway yet they're so situational and underwhelming,]] that it is as if they didn't exist. So, he has to rely on good-old training and wits to fight alongside his magic-wielding comrades.
** Bob uses [[TryingToCatchMeFightingDirty underhanded tactics]] to get the upper hand.
comrades.



** MugglesDoItBetter and the superpowered beings haven't been able to adapt back.

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** MugglesDoItBetter and the superpowered beings haven't been able to adapt back.adapt.



** Alternatively, anyone that uses Magic is a SquishyWizard.
** Alternatively, magicians are still human (or {{demihuman}}), so they are [[RealityEnsues just as vulnerable as everyone else to bullet/swords/arrows]]. Bob is just a skilled sniper/sword fighter/archer.
** Bob's four friends, Alice the BigBadassBirdOfPrey, Dave the KingOfBeasts, Charlie the CoolHorse, and Emily the BigBadassWolf, are all {{Fully Dressed Cartoon Animal}}s, and only animals can use magic. Bob, the TokenHuman, learns to imbue his sword with spells, creating physical elemental attacks.

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** Alternatively, anyone Anyone that uses Magic is a SquishyWizard.
** Alternatively, magicians Magicians are still human (or {{demihuman}}), so they are [[RealityEnsues just as vulnerable as everyone else to bullet/swords/arrows]]. Bob is just a skilled sniper/sword fighter/archer.
** Bob's four friends, Alice the BigBadassBirdOfPrey, Dave the KingOfBeasts, Charlie the CoolHorse, and Emily the BigBadassWolf, NobleWolf, are all {{Fully Dressed Cartoon Animal}}s, and only animals can use magic. Bob, the TokenHuman, learns to imbue his sword with spells, creating physical elemental attacks.



** OR: Bob, the one non-magical character, is completely useless and considered TheLoad.

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** OR: Bob, the one non-magical character, is completely useless and considered TheLoad.



** OR: It's revealed Bob's proficiency at martial arts and physical fighting has a magical origin.

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** OR: It's revealed Bob's proficiency at [[DoingInTheScientist martial arts and physical fighting has a magical origin.]]



** The magical origin is {{Magiteck}} that aids his training. He doesn't use it during battle.



* '''Parodied''': The people who use magic aren't really that good at it, and Bob is a world-class fighter capable of using several different martial arts. However, Bob moans about his lack of magic at any given opportunity.

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* '''Parodied''': The people who use magic aren't really that good at it, and Bob is a world-class fighter capable of using several different martial arts. However, Bob moans about his lack of magic at any given opportunity.



** OR: Bob is an ordinary {{Muggle}} and can't hold his own in a fight against magic users.

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** OR: Bob is an ordinary {{Muggle}} and can't hold his own in a fight against magic users.



* '''Defied''': Bob decides to try to learn magic.

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* '''Defied''': Bob decides to try to learn magic.



** Bob finds himself being [[LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards outperformed by his allies who have access to magic.]] This causes him to stop fighting altogether.

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** Bob finds himself being [[LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards outperformed by his allies who have access to magic.]] This causes him to stop fighting altogether.]]



** [[RealityEnsues Reality Ensues:]] magic users have a tendency to learn martial arts and tactical thinking as well, in order to give themselves an even greater advantage over others during a real battle. The natural result is that when Bob encounters an enemy who is both equally combat skilled and magically talented, Bob's magical handicap ultimately becomes his undoing and gets him quickly [[DroppedABridgeOnHim vaporized with no fanfare.]]
** Bob's lack of abilities causes him to develop a crippling inferiority complex, despite his impressive fighting skills. TheVerse is split between people who view him as pathetic or underestimate him, and those who view him as a messiah because of his skills, while Bob himself is unable to really appreciate his own contributions.

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** [[RealityEnsues Reality Ensues:]] magic users have a tendency to learn martial arts and tactical thinking as well, in order to give themselves an even greater advantage over others during a real battle. The natural result is that when Bob encounters an enemy who is both equally combat skilled and magically talented, Bob's magical handicap ultimately becomes his undoing and gets him quickly he is [[DroppedABridgeOnHim vaporized with no without fanfare.]]
** Bob's lack of magical abilities causes him to develop a crippling inferiority complex, despite his impressive fighting skills. TheVerse is split between people who view him as pathetic or underestimate him, and those who view him as a messiah savoir because of his skills, while Bob himself is unable to really appreciate his own contributions.



** However, when it looks like he's going to be outperformed, he starts training much harder to compensate.
** Bob understands the [[MagicAIsMagicA limitations of magic]], and can exploit them to his advantage.
** His RoaringRampageOfRevenge after coming BackFromTheDead destroys all the enemies.

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** However, when it looks like he's going to be outperformed, Bob is not outperformed by the mages because he starts can perform superhuman feats himself. This is not treated as ''superpowers'' but [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower training much harder to compensate.
really really heard for a long time.]]
** Bob understands the [[MagicAIsMagicA limitations of magic]], and can exploit them to his advantage.
** His RoaringRampageOfRevenge
advantage, thereby becoming a MageKiller.
**Bob's LoveInterest, knowing that he feels inadaequete for lacking magical powers, gives him a SmoochOfVictory
after coming BackFromTheDead destroys all the enemies.every battle.

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* '''Downplayed''': Bob does have magical powers, [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway yet they're so situational and underwhelming,]] that it is as if they didn't exist. So, he has to rely on good-old training and wits to fight alongside his magic-wielding comrades.

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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
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Bob does have magical powers, [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway yet they're so situational and underwhelming,]] that it is as if they didn't exist. So, he has to rely on good-old training and wits to fight alongside his magic-wielding comrades.
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** Bob uses [[TryingToCatchMeFightingDirty underhanded tactics]] to get the upper hand.

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* '''Lampshaded''': "Why haven't you used your magic yet?"

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* '''Lampshaded''': '''Lampshaded''':
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"Why haven't you used your magic yet?"yet?"
** "You have no powers, you took on an insanely powerful supervillain and won!? Damn Bob, you're hardcore."
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** Bob, the most ordinary average joe in the entire world, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu punches out an Eldritch Abomination]].

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** Bob, the most ordinary average joe in the entire world, possible, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu punches out an can go toe to toe with God, Eldritch Abomination]].Abominations, Reality Warpers and Cosmic Entities]]. And win.
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** Bob, the most ordinary average joe in the entire world, [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu punches out an Eldritch Abomination]].


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** MugglesDoItBetter and the superpowered beings haven't been able to adapt back.
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* '''Downplayed''': Bob does have magical powers, [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway yet they're pretty lame.]]

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* '''Downplayed''': Bob does have magical powers, [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway yet they're pretty lame.]]so situational and underwhelming,]] that it is as if they didn't exist. So, he has to rely on good-old training and wits to fight alongside his magic-wielding comrades.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': ???Bob does have magical powers, [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway yet they're pretty lame.]]
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** Bob's lack of abilities causes him to develop a crippling inferiority complex, despite his impressive fighting skills. TheVerse is split between people who view him as pathetic or underestimate him, and those who view him as a messiah because of his skills, while Bob himself is unable to really appreciate his own contributions.

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** Bob is MilesGloriosus, FakeUltimateHero, or only BadassOnPaper.
* '''Double Subverted''': Turns out that his magic is in the form of pre-made magical reagents that he can not make himself.

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** Bob is a MilesGloriosus, FakeUltimateHero, or only BadassOnPaper.
* '''Double Subverted''': Subverted''':
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Turns out that his magic is in the form of pre-made magical reagents that he can not make himself.himself.
** Bob TookALevelInBadass or was just pretending to be a wimp to fool his enemies.
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** Bob is MilesGloriosus, FakeUltimateHero, or only BadassOnPaper.
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** BadassAbnormal

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* '''Downplayed''': ???



* '''Deconstructed''':
** Bob finds himself being [[LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards outperformed by his allies who have access to magic.]] This causes him to stop fighting altogether.
** Bob's lack of magical prowess is viewed as a handicap by his magic-using peers, given what they face. Whether or not this actually restricts him depends on the degree of cynicism of the story (What? Not every deconstruction needs to be doom and gloom).
** [[RealityEnsues Reality Ensues:]] magic users have a tendency to learn martial arts and tactical thinking as well, in order to give themselves an even greater advantage over others during a real battle. The natural result is that when Bob encounters an enemy who is both equally combat skilled and magically talented, Bob's magical handicap ultimately becomes his undoing and gets him quickly [[DroppedABridgeOnHim vaporized with no fanfare.]]
* '''Reconstructed''':
** However, when it looks like he's going to be outperformed, he starts training much harder to compensate.
** Bob understands the [[MagicAIsMagicA limitations of magic]], and can exploit them to his advantage.
** His RoaringRampageOfRevenge after coming BackFromTheDead destroys all the enemies.



* '''Exploited''': ???



* '''Deconstructed''':
** Bob finds himself being [[LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards outperformed by his allies who have access to magic.]] This causes him to stop fighting altogether.
** Bob's lack of magical prowess is viewed as a handicap by his magic-using peers, given what they face. Whether or not this actually restricts him depends on the degree of cynicism of the story (What? Not every deconstruction needs to be doom and gloom).
** [[RealityEnsues Reality Ensues:]] magic users have a tendency to learn martial arts and tactical thinking as well, in order to give themselves an even greater advantage over others during a real battle. The natural result is that when Bob encounters an enemy who is both equally combat skilled and magically talented, Bob's magical handicap ultimately becomes his undoing and gets him quickly [[DroppedABridgeOnHim vaporized with no fanfare.]]
* '''Reconstructed''':
** However, when it looks like he's going to be outperformed, he starts training much harder to compensate.
** Bob understands the [[MagicAIsMagicA limitations of magic]], and can exploit them to his advantage.
** His RoaringRampageOfRevenge after coming BackFromTheDead destroys all the enemies.



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** Alternatively, magicians are still human (or {{demihuman}}), so they are [[RealityEnsues just as vulnerable as everyone else to bullet/swords/arrows]]. Bob is just a skilled sniper/sword fighter/archer.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Nearly ''everyone'', including animals, can use magic...except for Bob. But he doesn't let this get him down.

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
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Nearly ''everyone'', including animals, can use magic...except for Bob. But he doesn't let this get him down.



* '''Justified''': Bob lacks TheGift that allows people to use magic, but trains really hard to make up for it.

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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
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Bob lacks TheGift that allows people to use magic, but trains really hard to make up for it.



* '''Inverted''': Bob is the only person on Earth who's capable of using magic.

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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
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Bob is the only person on Earth who's capable of using magic.



* '''Subverted''': Bob ''can'' use magic - he just keeps it secret so he can [[IAmNotLeftHanded bust it out unexpectedly during a fight.]]

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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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Bob ''can'' use magic - he just keeps it secret so he can [[IAmNotLeftHanded bust it out unexpectedly during a fight.]]



* '''Deconstructed''': Bob finds himself being [[LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards outperformed by his allies who have access to magic.]] This causes him to stop fighting altogether.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Bob finds himself being [[LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards outperformed by his allies who have access to magic.]] This causes him to stop fighting altogether.



* '''Reconstructed''': However, when it looks like he's going to be outperformed, he starts training much harder to compensate.

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* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
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However, when it looks like he's going to be outperformed, he starts training much harder to compensate.



* '''Averted''': Bob can use magic.

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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
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** alternatively, anyone that uses Magic are [[SquishyWizard Squishy Wizards]]

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** alternatively, Alternatively, anyone that uses Magic are [[SquishyWizard Squishy Wizards]]is a SquishyWizard.



*** or he has enough CharlesAtlasSuperpower to achieves Metahuman-level Strength, Speed, and Durability to makes up his inability of using magic



** Alternatively, Bob is a HenshinHero
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*** or he has enough CharlesAtlasSuperpower to achieves Metahuman-level Strength, Speed, and Durability

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** MagicIsEvil


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** Bob's four friends, Alice the BigBadassBirdOfPrey, Dave the KingOfBeasts, Charlie the CoolHorse, and Emily the BigBadassWolf, are all furries, so they can use magic. Bob, the TokenHuman, learns to imbue his sword with spells, creating physical elemental attacks.

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** Bob's four friends, Alice the BigBadassBirdOfPrey, Dave the KingOfBeasts, Charlie the CoolHorse, and Emily the BigBadassWolf, are all furries, so they {{Fully Dressed Cartoon Animal}}s, and only animals can use magic. Bob, the TokenHuman, learns to imbue his sword with spells, creating physical elemental attacks.


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** His RoaringRampageOfRevenge after coming BackFromTheDead destroys all the enemies.

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* '''Straight''': Bob is the only character on the FiveManBand who cannot use any sort of magic. Despite only knowing martial arts, he is more than capable of being competent in a fight.

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* '''Straight''': Bob is the only character on the FiveManBand who cannot use any sort of magic. Despite only knowing martial arts, having a sword (because he's the hero), he is more than capable of being competent in a fight.


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** [[RealityEnsues Reality Ensues:]] magic users have a tendency to learn martial arts and tactical thinking as well, in order to give themselves an even greater advantage over others during a real battle. The natural result is that when Bob encounters an enemy who is both equally combat skilled and magically talented, Bob's magical handicap ultimately becomes his undoing and gets him quickly [[DroppedABridgeOnHim vaporized with no fanfare.]]
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** Despite everyone else having [[RealityWarper reality-altering supermagic]], Bob (who has no magic or fighting skills of any sort whatsoever) is an [[ImplacableMan implacable]] OneManArmy.

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** Despite everyone else having [[RealityWarper reality-altering supermagic]], Bob (who has no magic or fighting skills of any sort whatsoever) is an [[ImplacableMan implacable]] a OneManArmy.
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** Bob understands the [[MagicAIsMagicA limitations of magic]], and can exploit them to his advantage.
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** alternatively, anyone that uses Magic are [[SquishyWizard Squishy Wizards]]
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** Bob's lack of magical prowess is viewed as a handicap by his magic-using peers, given what they face. Whether or not this actually restricts him depends on the degree of cynicism of the story (What? Not every deconstruction needs to be doom and gloom).
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* '''Double Subverted''': However, he's not very proficient with that magic - which is why he prefers to use martial arts.

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* '''Double Subverted''': However, he's not very proficient with Turns out that his magic - which is why in the form of pre-made magical reagents that he prefers to use martial arts.can not make himself.
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* '''Justified''': Bob lacks TheGift that allows people to use magic.

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* '''Justified''': Bob lacks TheGift that allows people to use magic.magic, but trains really hard to make up for it.

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** OR: Bob is played up as a BadAss, but gets [[CurbstompBattle curbstomped]] the first time we actually see him in a fight.

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** OR: Bob is played up as It's revealed Bob's proficiency at martial arts and physical fighting has a BadAss, but gets [[CurbstompBattle curbstomped]] the first time we actually see him in a fight.magical origin.



* '''Deconstructed''': Bob finds himself being outperformed by his allies who have access to magic. This causes him to stop fighting altogether.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob finds himself being [[LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards outperformed by his allies who have access to magic. magic.]] This causes him to stop fighting altogether.



** OR: Bob is an ordinary {{Muggle}} and can't hold his own in a fight against magic users.



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* '''Conversed''': ???

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* '''Discussed''': ???
"Bob's martial arts skills must be incredible if he can't use magic and is still able to keep with the rest of his team!"
* '''Conversed''': ???"Have you ever wondered how guys with no special abilities can still fight magically-empowered villains and win using nothing more than kung fu?"
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** OR: Bob is played up as a BadAss, but gets [[CurbstompBattle curbstomped]] the first time we actually see him in a fight.

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