History NeverLiveItDown / VideoGames

28th Aug '16 9:36:21 AM SaraJaye
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*** [[HotBlooded Ryoma]], [[SugarAndIcePersonality Leo]], and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jakob]] are especially big targets of this: Ryoma for having hit his son Shiro in the Japanese version of the game/yelling at him in English plus hiding the fact that he's royalty, Leo for chewing out his son Forrest for his WholesomeCrossresser ways and Jakob for being competitive with his son Dwyer and calling him out on his laziness. Fans who bash the fathers for these instances conveniently ignore the fact that Shiro ''does'' point out that Ryoma made a mistake and that Ryoma tries harder to be a good dad, Leo ''apologizes'' to Forrest and spends their entire support chain trying to be supportive and encouraging while still firm, and that not only does Jakob care for his son, but that Dwyer himself is lazy and surly with his own competitive streak.

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*** [[HotBlooded Ryoma]], [[SugarAndIcePersonality Leo]], and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jakob]] are especially big targets of this: Ryoma for having hit his son Shiro in the Japanese version of the game/yelling at him in English plus hiding the fact that he's royalty, Leo for chewing out his son Forrest for his WholesomeCrossresser WholesomeCrossdresser ways and Jakob for being competitive with his son Dwyer and calling him out on his laziness. Fans who bash the fathers for these instances conveniently ignore the fact that Shiro ''does'' point out that Ryoma made a mistake and that Ryoma tries harder to be a good dad, Leo ''apologizes'' to Forrest and spends their entire support chain trying to be supportive and encouraging while still firm, and that not only does Jakob care for his son, but that Dwyer himself is lazy and surly with his own competitive streak.
28th Aug '16 9:35:38 AM SaraJaye
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*** [[HotBlooded Ryoma]], [[SugarAndIcePersonality Leo]], and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jakob]] are especially big targets of this: Ryoma for having hit his son Shiro in the Japanese version of the game/yelling at him in English plus hiding the fact that he's royalty, Leo for chewing out his son Forrest for his WholesomeCrossresser ways and Jakob for being competitive with his son Dwyer and calling him out on his laziness. Fans who bash the fathers for these instances conveniently ignore the fact that Shiro ''does'' point out that Ryoma made a mistake and that Ryoma tries harder to be a good dad, Leo ''apologizes'' to Forrest and spends their entire support chain trying to be supportive and encouraging while still firm, and that not only does Jakob care for his son, but that Dwyer himself is lazy and surly with his own competitive streak.
24th Aug '16 11:09:22 AM Kadorhal
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** Zero from ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' is known in the fandom for dying and resurrecting at the drop of a hat, which isn't exactly fair. He's only died canonically, what, 3 times? He came back as a biometal. In the words of Sigma: "ZELLO! [[WhyWontYouDie JUZDIE]]!" Perhaps this is because Zero is the mentor and the writers thought he was too badass to keep dead. According to the creator, Zero was originally supposed to stay dead the first time. [[SavedByTheFans It didn't work out]].

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** Zero from ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' is known in the fandom for dying and resurrecting at the drop of a hat, which isn't exactly fair. He's only died canonically, what, 3 times? He And only technically came back from it twice; the third time was as a biometal.[[VideoGame/MegaManZX biometal]]. In the words of Sigma: "ZELLO! [[WhyWontYouDie JUZDIE]]!" Perhaps this is because Zero is the mentor and the writers thought he was too badass to keep dead. According to the creator, Zero was originally supposed to stay dead the first time. [[SavedByTheFans It didn't work out]].



** Cloud is also misblamed as the cause of a trend of "emo" protagonists in ''Final Fantasy'', sometimes even every brooding RPG protagonist from the release on ''FFVII'' on, and every time any character is actually depressed for any reason Cloud tends to get blamed for it. Yet out of all the main ''Final Fantasy'' games ONLY [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII Squall]] after Cloud could be considered "emo" in any sense of the word, they both had good reason to be like that, they are not the first of ''Final Fantasy'' protagonists to feel perpetually miserable for one reason or another, and most of the subsequent Final Fantasy protagonists are actually pretty chipper most of the time.

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** Cloud is also misblamed as the cause of a trend of "emo" protagonists in ''Final Fantasy'', sometimes even every brooding RPG protagonist from the release on ''FFVII'' on, and every time any character is actually depressed for any reason Cloud tends to get blamed for it. Yet out of all the main ''Final Fantasy'' games ONLY games, only [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII Squall]] after Cloud could be considered "emo" in any sense of the word, they both had good reason to be like that, they are not the first of ''Final Fantasy'' protagonists to feel perpetually miserable for one reason or another, and most of the subsequent Final Fantasy protagonists are actually pretty chipper most of the time.
23rd Aug '16 2:32:18 PM Kadorhal
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* In-game example: The Jedi Exile in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic II'' is there when the planet Peragus is destroyed (depending on the player's choices, s/he could also be responsible for it). Regardless of whether or not the Exile is actually responsible, it seems everyone and their Twi'lek dancer is reminding them about it. On one occasion where you're allowed to pick a line about how it wasn't the Exile's fault, the character's response is that of course it was, since the Exile chose to go to Peragus. Sadly, there is no option to comment on how the Exile ''didn't'' choose to go to Peragus and was only even anywhere near there because s/he was drugged and rendered unconscious by an assassin droid hired by that same character in the first place.
** The Exile was also responsible for the destruction of Malachor V in the backstory; some characters seem to extrapolate this and Peragus and come to the conclusion that blowing up planets is some kind of regular habit for her/him.
** An out-of-universe example happens with the Disciple. He's already a bit of TheScrappy, since his DistaffCounterpart on male playthroughs has a much more developed backstory while his own story was rushed in at the last minute, and the unpreferred member of the quasi-love trangle between himself, the Exile, and Atton. He has a major moment of {{Sarcasm Blind}}ness on Nar Shaddaa, which is all that most players seem to remember apart from being a "Jedi fanboy". This leaves out the fact that he was smart enough to figure out Revan's ''real'' plan for the galaxy, that he makes several criticisms of the Jedi, and the one he's fanboying is the one they ''kicked out''. Nor does he accept [[spoiler:the Council's decision that she's a menace to the Force]].

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* In-game example: The Jedi Exile in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic II'' ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'' is there when the planet Peragus is destroyed (depending on the player's choices, s/he could also even be responsible for it).it in attempting to destroy their pursuers). Regardless of whether or not the Exile is actually responsible, it seems everyone and their Twi'lek dancer is reminding them about it. On one occasion where you're allowed to pick a line about how it wasn't the Exile's fault, the character's response is that of course it was, since the Exile chose to go to Peragus. Sadly, there is no option to comment on how the Exile ''didn't'' choose to go to Peragus and was only even anywhere near there because s/he was drugged and rendered unconscious by an assassin droid hired by that same character in the first place.
** The Exile was also responsible for the destruction of Malachor V in the backstory; some characters seem to extrapolate this and Peragus and come to the conclusion that blowing up planets is some kind of regular habit for her/him.
her/him, making them the ''Star Wars'' equivalent of Samus Aran above (almost appropriate, given the Exile is canonically female).
** An out-of-universe example happens with the Disciple. He's already a bit of TheScrappy, since his DistaffCounterpart on male playthroughs has a much more developed backstory while his own story was rushed in at the last minute, and he's the unpreferred non-preferred member of the quasi-love trangle triangle between himself, the Exile, and Atton. He has a major moment of {{Sarcasm Blind}}ness on Nar Shaddaa, which is all that most players seem to remember apart from being a "Jedi fanboy". This leaves out the fact that he was smart enough to figure out Revan's ''real'' plan for the galaxy, that he makes several criticisms of the Jedi, and the one he's fanboying is the one they ''kicked out''. Nor does he accept [[spoiler:the Council's decision that she's a menace to the Force]].



** The port of ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog1'' to the GameBoyAdvance was considered to be a complete failure. Considering that the GBA is technically more powerful than the Sega Genesis, the port should have been able to run without problems. Instead, the port is stuffed with massive frame rate drops for no reason, butchered sound and music, and altered physics that make playing the game extremely difficult. To top it off, the game was supposed to be a celebration of Sonic's 15th anniversary. Sega completely screwing up a simple port showed that [[TheyJustDidntCare they simply didn't give a shit and tried to cash in on the Sonic fan base.]] Fans still have not forgotten about this, especially so soon after Sonic 06 came out.
** Ever since Knuckles was fooled into thinking Sonic was the bad guy in ''Sonic 3'' he has earned a reputation as a gullible idiot who will believe anything Eggman tells him. This has happened, to a far lesser degree in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'', itself over 10 years old, and again in ''VideoGame/{{Sonic Advance|Trilogy}} 2''. Lampshaded by Sonic in ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogMegaManWorldsCollide'':
--> "So, which is it, Knuckle-head? Did Eggman trick you into getting roboticized? Or did you get kidnapped? 'Cause they're both '''really''' embarassing."

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** The port of ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog1'' to the GameBoyAdvance UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance was considered to be a complete failure. Considering that the GBA is technically more powerful than the Sega Genesis, the port should have been able to run without problems. Instead, the port is stuffed with massive frame rate drops for no reason, butchered sound and music, and altered physics (all caused by forcing the team to use the ''Sonic Advance'' engine, which wasn't meant to handle a game like the original ''Sonic'' games) that make playing the game extremely difficult. To top it off, the game was was, alongside the above ''Sonic '06'', supposed to be a celebration of Sonic's 15th anniversary. Sega completely screwing up a simple port showed that [[TheyJustDidntCare they simply didn't give a shit and tried to cash in on the Sonic fan base.]] Fans still have not forgotten about this, especially so soon after Sonic 06 came out.
** Ever since Knuckles was fooled into thinking Sonic was the bad guy in ''Sonic 3'' ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' he has earned a reputation as a gullible idiot who will believe anything Eggman tells him. This has happened, to a far lesser degree in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'', itself over 10 years old, and again in ''VideoGame/{{Sonic Advance|Trilogy}} 2''. Lampshaded by Sonic in ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogMegaManWorldsCollide'':
--> "So, -->So, which is it, Knuckle-head? Did Eggman trick you into getting roboticized? Or did you get kidnapped? 'Cause they're both '''really''' embarassing."embarrassing.



** Shadow is known for using the word "damn" thanks to his self-titled game.

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** Shadow is also known for using the word "damn" thanks to his self-titled game.
19th Aug '16 4:18:58 PM WillBGood
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*** All Inigo wants is to be manhandled, and all he ever does is try to get up girls' skirts. What StepfordSmiler reasons for acting the way he does? What shyness vs. extroversion issues? What about him being insensitized in regards to killing and feeling bad about it? \\
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To not say of Gerome being seen only in regards to his and Inigo's relationship and the giver of a "strong, firm touch"...
*** Tharja. To fandom, she's just an abusive {{Yandere}} who hexes people. [[SarcasmMode Silly fans think she's actually capable of remorse and kindness when it comes to people she does care about]].\\
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Similarly, people seem to think that the ONLY thing Noire has going on is being "the poor little victim of the evil Tharja, who does nothing but cry and weep over her evil mother". Her weak health? Her OddFriendship with Severa and own bonds with the other girls? Her bonding with Yarne and Brady over self-esteem issues, and being among the few who does '''not''' chide Yarne for being a LovableCoward? Her love of cooking and baking? Her desire to grow stronger and face her fears and traumas head-on? Her being the caretaker of [[spoiler: her little sister Morgan]] if [[spoiler: Tharja's husband is a male Avatar]]... Do they exist?

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*** All Inigo wants is to be manhandled, and all he ever does is try to get up girls' skirts. What StepfordSmiler reasons for acting the way he does? What shyness vs. extroversion issues? What about him being insensitized in regards to killing and feeling bad about it? \\
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To not
Not to say of Gerome being seen only in regards to his and Inigo's relationship and the giver of a "strong, firm touch"...
*** Tharja. To fandom, she's just an abusive {{Yandere}} who hexes people. [[SarcasmMode Silly fans think she's actually capable of remorse and kindness when it comes to people she does care about]].\\
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Similarly, people seem to think that the ONLY thing Noire has going on is being "the poor little victim of the evil Tharja, who does nothing but cry and weep over her evil mother". Her weak health? Her OddFriendship with Severa and own bonds with the other girls? Her bonding with Yarne and Brady over self-esteem issues, and being among the few who does '''not''' chide Yarne for being a LovableCoward? Her love of cooking and baking? Her desire to grow stronger and face her fears and traumas head-on? Her being the caretaker of [[spoiler: her little sister Morgan]] if [[spoiler: Tharja's husband is a male Avatar]]... Do they exist?



* SNK itself. Disregard taunts, parries, super moves, super meter, background cameos and the rest. ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' didn't invent; SNK made ''Art of Fighting]]'', [[SarcasmMode therefore they are FOREVER incapable of coming up with ANYTHING EVER.]] Terry Bogard has also ended up on the recieving end of this thanks to his Buster Wolf DM as whenever they think of his [[GratuitousEnglish rampant Engrish]] habits, they'll invariably go for his "ARE YOU OKAY?!" and "BUSTAH WORF!" line, and his Buster Wolf as being his most famous, ubiquitous move (Kind of like Vegeta's signature move being Galick Gun despite only using it once). Believe it or not Terry has NOT had that DM in every single game he's ever been in, having only been in ''Garou: Mark of the Wolves'', both ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNKMillenniumFight2000 Capcom]] [[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium vs. SNK]]'' games, KOF 2003, XI and XIII. But it seems like its all he can ever say and perform, according to most, thanks to the aforementioned question.

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* SNK itself. Disregard taunts, parries, super moves, super meter, background cameos and the rest. other things ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' didn't invent; SNK made ''Art of Fighting]]'', [[SarcasmMode Fighting'', therefore they are FOREVER incapable of coming up with ANYTHING EVER.]] EVER. Terry Bogard has also ended up on the recieving end of this thanks to his Buster Wolf DM as whenever they think of his [[GratuitousEnglish rampant Engrish]] habits, they'll invariably go for his "ARE YOU OKAY?!" and "BUSTAH WORF!" line, and his Buster Wolf as being his most famous, ubiquitous move (Kind of like Vegeta's signature move being Galick Gun despite only using it once). Believe it or not Terry has NOT had that DM in every single game he's ever been in, having only been in ''Garou: Mark of the Wolves'', both ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNKMillenniumFight2000 Capcom]] [[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium vs. SNK]]'' games, KOF 2003, XI and XIII. But it seems like its all he can ever say and perform, according to most, thanks to the aforementioned question.



** An out-of-universe example happens with the Disciple. He's already a bit of TheScrappy, since his DistaffCounterpart on male playthroughs has a much more developed backstory while his own story was rushed in at the last minute, and the unpreferred member of the quasi-love trangle between himself, the Exile, and Atton. He has a major moment of SarcasmBlindness on Nar Shaddaa, which is all that most players seem to remember apart from being a "Jedi fanboy". This leaves out the fact that he was smart enough to figure out Revan's ''real'' plan for the galaxy, that he makes several criticisms of the Jedi, and the one he's fanboying is the one they ''kicked out''. Nor does he accept [[spoiler:the Council's decision that she's a menace to the Force]].

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** An out-of-universe example happens with the Disciple. He's already a bit of TheScrappy, since his DistaffCounterpart on male playthroughs has a much more developed backstory while his own story was rushed in at the last minute, and the unpreferred member of the quasi-love trangle between himself, the Exile, and Atton. He has a major moment of SarcasmBlindness {{Sarcasm Blind}}ness on Nar Shaddaa, which is all that most players seem to remember apart from being a "Jedi fanboy". This leaves out the fact that he was smart enough to figure out Revan's ''real'' plan for the galaxy, that he makes several criticisms of the Jedi, and the one he's fanboying is the one they ''kicked out''. Nor does he accept [[spoiler:the Council's decision that she's a menace to the Force]].



** People who are critical with Team Ninja usually only mention the ''Xtreme Beach Volleyball'' entries when they talk about the series or the studio, as if the fighting games didn't even exist (famous web shows like ''WebVideo/ExtraCredits'' or ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' have been guilty of this). And if they do mention them, they talk about the JigglePhysics as if they were the only noteworthy thing about them. Because, you know, being a pretty awesome fighting series on its own merits [[SarcasmMode means absolutely nothing]] next to the FanService.

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** People who are critical with Team Ninja usually only mention the ''Xtreme Beach Volleyball'' entries when they talk about the series or the studio, as if the fighting games didn't even exist (famous web shows like ''WebVideo/ExtraCredits'' or ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' have been guilty of this). And if they do mention them, they talk about the JigglePhysics as if they were the only noteworthy thing about them. Because, you know, being a pretty awesome fighting series on its own merits [[SarcasmMode means absolutely nothing]] nothing next to the FanService.
18th Aug '16 7:46:45 AM rjd1922
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** Chihiro Fujisaki is a timid, sweet kid that only wants to aid others (namely by means of computer programs), and also has a weakness complex. But if you see some fandom like Tumblr... the most you would see is [[spoiler: arguments over whether he is a WholesomeCrossdresser or a transgirl, despite the latter theory having been explicitly Jossed.]]

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** Chihiro Fujisaki is a timid, sweet kid that only wants to aid others (namely by means of computer programs), and also has a weakness complex. But if you see some fandom like Tumblr... the most you would see is [[spoiler: arguments over whether he is a WholesomeCrossdresser or a transgirl, [[{{Transsexual}} transgirl]], despite the latter theory having been explicitly Jossed.{{Jossed}}.]]
15th Aug '16 12:26:15 AM KEEP_IN
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** There is a lot of fanart of Kirigiri having a ramen cup on her head, even though it only happened for a very brief moment in the game.
15th Aug '16 12:20:56 AM KEEP_IN
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** Chihiro Fujisaki is a timid, sweet being that only wants to help other people with her programming and overcome her weakness and timidity. But if you see some fandom like Tumblr... the most thing you know about her would be [[spoiler: that "she" is a WholesomeCrossdresser. Or a UsefulNotes/{{trans|gender}}girl. Whichever interpretation that whoever you're talking to wants to force down your throat.]]

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** Chihiro Fujisaki is a timid, sweet being kid that only wants to help other people with her programming aid others (namely by means of computer programs), and overcome her also has a weakness and timidity.complex. But if you see some fandom like Tumblr... the most thing you know about her would be see is [[spoiler: that "she" arguments over whether he is a WholesomeCrossdresser. Or WholesomeCrossdresser or a UsefulNotes/{{trans|gender}}girl. Whichever interpretation that whoever you're talking to wants to force down your throat.transgirl, despite the latter theory having been explicitly Jossed.]]
9th Aug '16 11:10:46 PM Anddrix
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*** Takumi is a BaseBreaker, and his detractors treat him as though all he did was yell at and hate the Avatar before going BrainwashedAndCrazy in ''Conquest''.

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*** Takumi is a BaseBreaker, BaseBreakingCharacter, and his detractors treat him as though all he did was yell at and hate the Avatar before going BrainwashedAndCrazy in ''Conquest''.
9th Aug '16 7:04:39 AM SpinAttaxx
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** Poor Charizard is never going to escape mockery from the fandom for being a fire-breathing dragon that isn't a Dragon-type, even after it got a Mega Evolution that makes it part-Dragon. Even moreso when ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' made ''Exeggutor'' of all Pokémon a Dragon-type without needing to Mega Evolve.
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