History NeverLiveItDown / VideoGames

16th Apr '16 4:59:55 PM SaraJaye
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*** Soleil is bisexual but largely prefers women and can only S support with men. While it's a valid reason for fans to be disappointed, a lot of them are screaming about how homophobic the game is after reading her poorly-written support chain with a male Avatar. All while conveniently ignoring the fact that the kids aren't as tied to the marriage mechanic as their parents, and it's just as easy to leave Soleil unpaired and at A support with another girl. Many have outright ''boycotted'' the game over this.

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*** Soleil is bisexual but largely prefers women and can only S support with men.men (all the boys in the Japanese version, Forrest and the male Avatar in English). While it's a valid reason for fans to be disappointed, a lot of them are screaming about how homophobic the game is after reading her poorly-written support chain with a male Avatar. All while conveniently ignoring the fact that the kids aren't as tied to the marriage mechanic as their parents, and it's just as easy to leave Soleil unpaired and at A support with another girl. Many have outright ''boycotted'' the game over this.this.
*** Once the above controversy wore off, fans started to see Soleil as a "predatory lesbian stereotype" due to her constant flirting and C-B rank supports with Ophelia. Some have even gone so far as to say she should be kept away from women, never mind that she ''does'' apologize to Ophelia and has more traits to her than simply chasing girls.



** The franchise starting with ''Awakening'' has received quite a severe BrokenBase from people who feel that the games have abandoned everything the franchise was known (such as removing perma-death and a much more "anime" based aesthetic) in order to pander to a lower crowd. This ignores that practically all the AntiFrustrationFeature's can be disabled, the games still make frequent references to prior entries and that the elements alienated Japanese gamers and newcomers, leading a severe decline in sales and what would of been the series cancelation had ''Awakening'' not done as well as it did.

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*** Takumi is a BaseBreaker, and his detractors treat him as though all he did was yell at and hate the Avatar before going BrainwashedAndCrazy in ''Conquest''.
*** [[spoiler: Even though Laslow has matured quite a bit from Inigo in ''Awakening'', he still does flirt. Inigo's detractors in ''Awakening'' are quick to treat Laslow as though he hasn't changed or grown a bit.]]
*** Even though Rhajat's Tharja-esque traits were amped up in the localization, she still has far more to her character than that. Her detractors, however, stubbornly ignore this fact in order to keep bashing her.
** The franchise starting with ''Awakening'' has received quite a severe BrokenBase from people who feel that the games have abandoned everything the franchise was known (such as removing perma-death and a much more "anime" based aesthetic) in order to pander to a lower crowd. This ignores that practically all the AntiFrustrationFeature's can be disabled, the games still make frequent references to prior entries and that the elements alienated Japanese gamers and newcomers, leading a severe decline in sales and what would of been the series cancelation cancellation had ''Awakening'' not done as well as it did.
14th Apr '16 7:40:40 PM MyFinalEdits
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** Lightning punches Snow on two separate occasions - in extreme circumstances and while under an enormous amount of emotional stress. Probably due to the fact that it was a) heavily featured in the trailers, b) "awesome," and c) what many players wanted to do at that point, fanfic features her decking Snow full-force at the drop of a hat. They also tend to forget that she [[DefrostingIceQueen defrosted]] a lot over the course of the story, and she is told point-blank by Fang (whom she also hits) that punching people to relieve her emotional stress is a ''bad thing'' that solves exactly zero of their current problems, and she noticeably stops doing so when she realizes the truth in that statement. ''Dissidia 012'' responds as it has with its other characters by portraying her as the fan view of her as super stoic and hostile.

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** Lightning punches Snow on two separate occasions - in extreme circumstances and while under an enormous amount of emotional stress. Probably due to the fact that stress, likely because it was a) heavily featured in the trailers, b) "awesome," and c) what many players wanted to do at that point, fanfic features her decking Snow full-force at the drop of a hat. They also tend to forget that she [[DefrostingIceQueen defrosted]] a lot over the course of the story, and she is told point-blank by Fang (whom she also hits) that punching people to relieve her emotional stress is a ''bad thing'' that solves exactly zero of their current problems, and she noticeably stops doing so when she realizes the truth in that statement. ''Dissidia 012'' responds as it has with its other characters by portraying her as the fan view of her as super stoic and hostile.



** One of Shiro's ideals as an AllLovingHero is that he doesn't want to see Saber (and, for the most part, Saber ''specifically'') injured because of his own weakness. Unfortunately, the way he expresses this is by insisting that Saber stay back and let him do the fighting, which makes Shiro look ''unbelievably stupid'' due to the fact that Saber is a superpowered warrior woman and Shiro is among the least competent fighters in the series (not for lack of trying on his part, to be fair), and many fans interpreted this as Shiro believing that Saber should StayInTheKitchen. It doesn't help that this part of Shiro's characterization only really comes out in the "Fate" storyline, which for a long time was the only route that had an anime adaptation, so anyone who didn't play the Visual Novel never saw his inner monologues and CharacterDevelopment that make his real feelings and intentions clear.

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** One of Shiro's ideals as an AllLovingHero is that he doesn't want to see Saber (and, for the most part, Saber ''specifically'') injured because of his own weakness. Unfortunately, the way he expresses this is by insisting that Saber stay back and let him do the fighting, which makes Shiro look ''unbelievably stupid'' due to the fact that as Saber is a superpowered warrior woman and Shiro is among the least competent fighters in the series (not for lack of trying on his part, to be fair), and many fans interpreted this as Shiro believing that Saber should StayInTheKitchen. It doesn't help that this part of Shiro's characterization only really comes out in the "Fate" storyline, which for a long time was the only route that had an anime adaptation, so anyone who didn't play the Visual Novel never saw his inner monologues and CharacterDevelopment that make his real feelings and intentions clear.



* Poor, poor {{Capcom}}. Tell fans how they issued an apology for Disc-Locked DLC, they will never forgive them for the VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken case. Tell them that Capcom has something planned for Megaman's 25th anniversary, they go on about how they cancelled Megaman Legends 3. Tell them that Mega Man is in the fourth ''Super Smash Bros'' game, they yell about how that's a Nintendo game and doesn't count. It seems that ''nothing'' Capcom does will possibly dissuade the horde.

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* Poor, poor {{Capcom}}. Creator/{{Capcom}}:
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Tell fans how they issued an apology for Disc-Locked DLC, they will never forgive them for the VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken case. Tell them that Capcom has something planned for Megaman's 25th anniversary, they go on about how they cancelled Megaman Legends 3. Tell them that Mega Man is in the fourth ''Super Smash Bros'' game, they yell about how that's a Nintendo game and doesn't count. It seems that ''nothing'' Capcom does will possibly dissuade the horde.



** This also happened after they mispelt their name as "CAPCPOM" in one trailer for ''VideoGame/SteelBattalion''. Some fans use it as a FanNickname to refer to "current Capcom" as if it were a totally different company.



* In ''VideoGame/ResonanceOfFate'' [[HandsomeLech Vashyron]] calls a well endowed woman's boobs "Bunker Busters" and gets a rather strange dance to go along with it. While he does make innuendos throughout the game, he only uses that line and dance once. Cue ''VideoGame/ProjectXZone'' where he spouts that line every time he encounters one of the more fan-servicey characters, and will say it when paired with KOS-MOS and T-elos as their solo unit. His dance will very frequently pop up too, again if he's paired with KOS-MOS and T-elos.
** In-universe example for ''VideoGame/ResonanceOfFate'': Early on, in the middle of a blackout, Zephyr claims to be "good in the dark". Considering he says that shortly after accidentally walking in on Leanne in the bath (thinking she was being attacked by a monster), Vashyron just runs with it.

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* In ''VideoGame/ResonanceOfFate'' ''VideoGame/ResonanceOfFate'':
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[[HandsomeLech Vashyron]] calls a well endowed woman's boobs "Bunker Busters" and gets a rather strange dance to go along with it. While he does make innuendos throughout the game, he only uses that line and dance once. Cue ''VideoGame/ProjectXZone'' where he spouts that line every time he encounters one of the more fan-servicey characters, and will say it when paired with KOS-MOS and T-elos as their solo unit. His dance will very frequently pop up too, again if he's paired with KOS-MOS and T-elos.
** In-universe example for ''VideoGame/ResonanceOfFate'': example: Early on, in the middle of a blackout, Zephyr claims to be "good in the dark". Considering he says that shortly after accidentally walking in on Leanne in the bath (thinking she was being attacked by a monster), Vashyron just runs with it.



** Also applies to Capcom after they mispelt their name as "CAPCPOM" in one trailer for ''VideoGame/SteelBattalion''. Some fans use it as a FanNickname to refer to "current Capcom" (as described above) as if it were a totally different company.
14th Apr '16 12:52:04 PM DarkHunter
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* Shiro Emiya from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' is often branded CaptainObvious based on one moment ''that didn't really even happen'': the infamous "People die when they are killed." line isn't even an accurate translation; what he said was more along the lines of, "[[NoOneCouldSurviveThat Normal people are supposed to die]] [[DeathIsCheap from (these kinds of injuries)]]". He may be stupid in other ways, but pointing out the obvious isn't really one of them.
** One of Shiro's ideals as an AllLovingHero is that he doesn't want to see Saber (and, for the most part, Saber ''specifically'') injured because of his own weakness. If you listened to the internet, you'd think his every other sentence is "StayInTheKitchen!"

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* Shiro Emiya from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' has received this several times over:
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is often branded CaptainObvious based on one moment ''that didn't really even happen'': the infamous "People die when they are killed." line isn't even an accurate translation; what he said was more along the lines of, "[[NoOneCouldSurviveThat Normal people are supposed to die]] [[DeathIsCheap from (these kinds of injuries)]]". He may be stupid in other ways, but pointing out the obvious isn't really one of them.
** One of Shiro's ideals as an AllLovingHero is that he doesn't want to see Saber (and, for the most part, Saber ''specifically'') injured because of his own weakness. If you listened Unfortunately, the way he expresses this is by insisting that Saber stay back and let him do the fighting, which makes Shiro look ''unbelievably stupid'' due to the internet, you'd think fact that Saber is a superpowered warrior woman and Shiro is among the least competent fighters in the series (not for lack of trying on his every other sentence is "StayInTheKitchen!"part, to be fair), and many fans interpreted this as Shiro believing that Saber should StayInTheKitchen. It doesn't help that this part of Shiro's characterization only really comes out in the "Fate" storyline, which for a long time was the only route that had an anime adaptation, so anyone who didn't play the Visual Novel never saw his inner monologues and CharacterDevelopment that make his real feelings and intentions clear.
6th Apr '16 4:54:48 PM GamingFan1997
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** It doesn't matter what else ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' did; as far as the internet's concerned, it will always be shamed for introducing Pokémon based on ice cream and garbage. With how much the Vanilluxe and Garbodor lines get slagged off for being uncreative, you'd swear they were the only new Pokémon introduced in those games.

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** It doesn't matter what else ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' did; as far as the internet's concerned, it will always be shamed for introducing Pokémon based on ice cream and garbage. With how much the Vanilluxe and Garbodor lines get slagged off for being uncreative, you'd swear they were the only new Pokémon introduced in those games.games - despite the fact that Gen. 5 had the most new Pokemon out of any Pokemon generation, including [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Gen. 1]].
1st Apr '16 4:12:46 PM Arima
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** According to Koji Igarashi, one of the reasons why he left Konami in 2014 was concern about the direction the company was going to take the ''Castlevania'' franchise.

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** According to Koji Igarashi, one of the reasons why he left Konami in 2014 was concern about the direction the company was going to take the ''Castlevania'' franchise. He has since become an independent developer who has received overwhelming support from the fans as evidenced by the landslide success of his latest work ''VideoGame/BloodstainedRitualOfTheNight''.
1st Apr '16 2:44:08 AM Arima
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** According to Koji Igarashi, one of the reasons why he left Konami was concern about the direction the company was going to take the ''Castlevania'' franchise.

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** According to Koji Igarashi, one of the reasons why he left Konami in 2014 was concern about the direction the company was going to take the ''Castlevania'' franchise.
25th Mar '16 12:35:43 PM SaraJaye
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*** The introduction of the child mechanic was somewhat rushed and the explanation for the children is clumsily handled and contrived, but the child characters themselves are fleshed out and well-developed. Unfortunately, this isn't enough to stop a lot of the fandom from bashing them and insisting they can't be canon. The ''Awakening'' [[{{Expy}} expies]] Asugi, Caeldori and Rhajat (''especially'' Rhajat) bear the brunt of this, as does the already polarizing Soleil.

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*** The introduction of the child mechanic was somewhat rushed and the explanation for the children is clumsily handled and contrived, but the child characters themselves are fleshed out and well-developed. Unfortunately, this isn't enough to stop a lot of the fandom from bashing them and insisting defining them by the clumsy mechanic rather than as characters...or from turning on the parent characters and denouncing them as abusive and neglectful rather than [[ParentsAsPeople human beings who had children before the time was quite right and did what they can't be canon. felt was best to protect them]]. The ''Awakening'' [[{{Expy}} expies]] Asugi, Caeldori fact that this is addressed in-game and Rhajat (''especially'' Rhajat) bear dealt with naturally doesn't mitigate the brunt of this, as does the already polarizing Soleil.fans' anger.
25th Mar '16 12:33:05 PM SaraJaye
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*** The introduction of the child mechanic was somewhat rushed and the explanation for the children is clumsily handled and contrived, but the child characters themselves are fleshed out and well-developed. Unfortunately, this isn't enough to stop a lot of the fandom from bashing them and insisting they can't be canon. The ''Awakening'' [[{{Expy}} expies]] Asugi, Caeldori and Rhajat (''especially'' Rhajat) bear the brunt of this, as does the already polarizing Soleil.
22nd Mar '16 7:12:03 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** Why... oh WHY did Konami cancel ''VideoGame/SilentHills''? Because they want to make... [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ht4dbyPIcM PACHINKO Machines]].

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** Why... oh WHY did Konami cancel ''VideoGame/SilentHills''? Because they want to make... [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ht4dbyPIcM PACHINKO Machines]]. Which itself is a NLID for Konami's pachinko division, which has [[AmericansHateTingle drawn the hatred of the entire Western gaming community]].
20th Mar '16 3:18:49 PM finalsurvivor1
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* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'': While [[GodIsEvil YHVH]] is undeniably bad news, most of the games give both Law and Chaos good points along with their bad, and the Big Guy is commonly given a more nuanced portrayal despite his relative antagonist status. That being said, it's unlikely the fans will forget [[MoralEventHorizon his depiction]] in [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII the second game]] anytime soon.

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* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'': While [[GodIsEvil YHVH]] is undeniably bad news, most of the games give both Law and Chaos good points along with their bad, and the Big Guy is commonly given a more nuanced portrayal despite his relative antagonist status. That being said, it's unlikely the fans will forget [[MoralEventHorizon his depiction]] in [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII the second game]] anytime soon. [[spoiler:''Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final'' finally gives a clear answer: Atlus seemingly gave up on trying to recover YHVH's image, so they made it so that YHVH was an insane impostor of the Great Will, the true, benevolent God of the multiverse]].
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