History NeverLiveItDown / VideoGames

28th Jun '16 3:07:32 PM PrincessGwen
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*** ''Awakening'' is also accused of taking "a step backward" by only allowing opposite-sex marriages and focusing so much on marriage and children. It's been accused of sexism and homophobia despite having plenty of mphysically, mentally ''and'' emotionally strong female characters ''and'' the marriage-and-children mechanic being optional (Lucina's the only plot-important kid).

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*** ''Awakening'' is also accused of taking "a step backward" by only allowing opposite-sex marriages and focusing so much on marriage and children. It's been accused of sexism and homophobia despite having plenty of mphysically, physically, mentally ''and'' emotionally strong female characters ''and'' the marriage-and-children mechanic being optional (Lucina's the only plot-important kid).
20th Jun '16 2:41:04 PM GlitteringFlowers
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*** ''Awakening'' is also accused of taking "a step backward" by only allowing opposite-sex marriages and focusing so much on marriage and children. It's been accused of sexism and homophobia despite having plenty of strong female characters ''and'' the marriage-and-children mechanic being optional (Lucina's the only plot-important kid).

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*** ''Awakening'' is also accused of taking "a step backward" by only allowing opposite-sex marriages and focusing so much on marriage and children. It's been accused of sexism and homophobia despite having plenty of mphysically, mentally ''and'' emotionally strong female characters ''and'' the marriage-and-children mechanic being optional (Lucina's the only plot-important kid).



*** Camilla is a {{Yandere}} who's obsessed with protecting the Avatar, so of course her detractors refuse to believe she has depth and actual ''reasons'' for being the way she is. She was already hated for her MsFanservice design and compared unfavorably to TomboyPrincess Hinoka.

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*** Camilla is a {{Yandere}} who's obsessed with protecting the Avatar, so of course her detractors refuse to believe she has depth and actual ''reasons'' for being the way she is.is (hint: [[BrokenBird she]] was ''horrifyingly'' broken in her early years). She was already hated for her MsFanservice design and compared unfavorably to TomboyPrincess Hinoka.



*** Oboro's initial character description was two things: her hatred for Nohr and her feelings for Takumi, the prince she serves. More aspects of her personality were revealed over time, as well as the translation of her supports that explain her hatred of Nohr and [[spoiler:have her overcoming it via her supports with three Nohrians in the ''Revelation'' path]], but her detractors still only see her as a shrieking banshee who makes angry faces if someone so much as ''mentions'' anything to do with Nohr and only exists to be obsessed with Takumi.

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*** Oboro's initial character description was two things: her hatred for Nohr and her feelings for Takumi, the prince she serves. More aspects of her personality were revealed over time, time (i.e her TeamMom tendences, her love of fashion in general, etc.), as well as the translation of her supports that explain her hatred of Nohr and [[spoiler:have her working on it by supporting and potentially marrying two Nohrian guys in the ''Birthright'' path, and fully overcoming it via her supports supporting with three Nohrians other two Nohrian guys and a Nohrian woman more in the ''Revelation'' path]], ''Revelation'']]... but her detractors still only see her as a shrieking banshee who makes angry faces if someone so much as ''mentions'' anything to do with Nohr and only exists to be obsessed with Takumi.



*** Even though Rhajat's Tharja-esque traits were amped up in the localization, she still has far more to her character than that. Her detractors, however, stubbornly ignore this fact in order to keep bashing her.
** The franchise starting with ''Awakening'' has received quite a severe BrokenBase from people who feel that the games have abandoned everything the franchise was known (such as removing perma-death and a much more "anime" based aesthetic) in order to pander to a lower crowd. This ignores that practically all the AntiFrustrationFeature's can be disabled, the games still make frequent references to prior entries and that the elements alienated Japanese gamers and newcomers, leading a severe decline in sales and what would of been the series cancellation had ''Awakening'' not done as well as it did.

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*** Even though Rhajat's Tharja-esque traits were ''somewhat'' amped up in the localization, she still has far more to her character than that. Her detractors, however, stubbornly ignore this fact in order to keep bashing her.
her, "forgetting" that her non-Avatar supports give her several PetTheDog moments and a genuine desire to make more friends.
** The franchise starting with ''Awakening'' has received quite a severe BrokenBase from people who feel that the games have abandoned everything the franchise was known (such as removing perma-death and a much more "anime" based aesthetic) in order to pander to a lower crowd. This ignores that practically all the AntiFrustrationFeature's AntiFrustrationFeatures can be disabled, the games still make frequent references to prior entries and that the elements alienated Japanese gamers and newcomers, leading a severe decline in sales and what would of been the series cancellation had ''Awakening'' not done as well as it did.
12th Jun '16 7:02:28 PM SpinAttaxx
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** It doesn't matter what else ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' did; as far as the internet's concerned, it will always be shamed for introducing Pokémon based on ice cream and garbage. With how much the Vanilluxe and Garbodor lines get slagged off for being uncreative, you'd swear they were the only new Pokémon introduced in those games - despite the fact that Gen. 5 had the most new Pokemon out of any Pokemon generation, including [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Gen. 1]].

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** It doesn't matter what else ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' did; as far as the internet's concerned, it will always be shamed for introducing Pokémon based on ice cream and garbage. With how much the Vanilluxe and Garbodor lines get slagged off for being uncreative, you'd swear they were the only new Pokémon introduced in those games - despite the fact that Gen. 5 Gen V had the most new Pokemon Pokémon out of any Pokemon generation, including [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Gen. 1]].Gen I]].


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** Jynx is almost certain to be forever overshadowed by the controversy that [[UnfortunateCharacterDesign its original blackface-esque design]] generated, with the Virtual Console release of ''Yellow'' altering its sprite, anime episodes with the old design being edited or cut entirely, and Jynx's lack of prominence since then.[[labelnote:*]]To the point where Gen IV gave Electabuzz and Magmar (who form an unofficial FireIceLightning trio with Jynx and got pre-evolutions alongside it in Gen II) evolutions, but Jynx didn't get anything.[[/labelnote]]
5th Jun '16 10:29:23 PM erforce
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* ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry'' was, unfortunately, hyped just a little too much on its release, leading to key figures in the gaming industry slamming it, to the effect that even now it seems to be remembered as little more than a poor Mario imitator. Its demonstrable overshadowing of ''VideoGame/SuperMetroid'' and ''VideoGame/EarthBound'', two games released around the same time with less cutting-edge graphics but which have [[VindicatedByHistory come to be seen as classics of their respective genres]], helped further its reputation as overhyped garbage. As anyone who actually played it at the time can attest, this is quite wrong -- it was a beautifully designed, addictive platformer with one of the best soundtracks to grace any game of any time period. And its [[VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry2DiddysKongQuest first sequel]] was even better in all regards.

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* ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry'' ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry1'' was, unfortunately, hyped just a little too much on its release, leading to key figures in the gaming industry slamming it, to the effect that even now it seems to be remembered as little more than a poor Mario imitator. Its demonstrable overshadowing of ''VideoGame/SuperMetroid'' and ''VideoGame/EarthBound'', two games released around the same time with less cutting-edge graphics but which have [[VindicatedByHistory come to be seen as classics of their respective genres]], helped further its reputation as overhyped garbage. As anyone who actually played it at the time can attest, this is quite wrong -- it was a beautifully designed, addictive platformer with one of the best soundtracks to grace any game of any time period. And its [[VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry2DiddysKongQuest first sequel]] was even better in all regards.
27th May '16 5:24:38 PM nombretomado
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** Similarly, the PlaystationNetwork will never be looked at the same way again thanks to Sony not handling the hacking incidents on its networks more swiftly, which caused the PSN to be down for almost a month.

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** Similarly, the PlaystationNetwork UsefulNotes/PlaystationNetwork will never be looked at the same way again thanks to Sony not handling the hacking incidents on its networks more swiftly, which caused the PSN to be down for almost a month.



* After the ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken'' DLC characters controversy[[note]][=PS3=] and Xbox 360 versions only, as the PlayStationVita port has all of the "extra" characters available by default[[/note]], expect forums on every subsequent Capcom game to make some joke about half the content being on locked disc DLC.

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* After the ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken'' DLC characters controversy[[note]][=PS3=] and Xbox 360 versions only, as the PlayStationVita UsefulNotes/PlayStationVita port has all of the "extra" characters available by default[[/note]], expect forums on every subsequent Capcom game to make some joke about half the content being on locked disc DLC.
25th May '16 8:02:26 PM nombretomado
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* One has to really pity poor [[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Dhaos]]. He was a fairly badass villain with a reasonably understandable motive and tragic backstory, but thanks to the GameBoyAdvance port of ''Tales of Phantasia'' having poor English voice acting, he is never '''ever''' going to live down reacting to Edward D. Morrison's Indignation with a poorly delivered "What the heck is that?!" Apparently that's all he can ever say or do. Dhaos and Indignation in itself is also a case as, yes, in his original game it did force him to retreat and in the first boss battle with him it can end the battle early if his health is low enough, but in the fandom its gotten to the point where it apparently can kill him in one hit. In most games he's in (As well as his expy [[VideoGame/TalesOfEternia Sekundes]]) it only merely does a lot of damage to him and will only trigger a special scene if his health is low enough (for example, see Rita's Thunder Blade on him in the PS3 version of ''Vesperia''.)

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* One has to really pity poor [[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Dhaos]]. He was a fairly badass villain with a reasonably understandable motive and tragic backstory, but thanks to the GameBoyAdvance port of ''Tales of Phantasia'' having poor English voice acting, he is never '''ever''' going to live down reacting to Edward D. Morrison's Indignation with a poorly delivered "What the heck is that?!" Apparently that's all he can ever say or do. Dhaos and Indignation in itself is also a case as, yes, in his original game it did force him to retreat and in the first boss battle with him it can end the battle early if his health is low enough, but in the fandom its gotten to the point where it apparently can kill him in one hit. In most games he's in (As well as his expy [[VideoGame/TalesOfEternia Sekundes]]) it only merely does a lot of damage to him and will only trigger a special scene if his health is low enough (for example, see Rita's Thunder Blade on him in the PS3 [=PS3=] version of ''Vesperia''.)



* After the ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken'' DLC characters controversy[[note]]PS3 and Xbox 360 versions only, as the PlayStationVita port has all of the "extra" characters available by default[[/note]], expect forums on every subsequent Capcom game to make some joke about half the content being on locked disc DLC.

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* After the ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken'' DLC characters controversy[[note]]PS3 controversy[[note]][=PS3=] and Xbox 360 versions only, as the PlayStationVita port has all of the "extra" characters available by default[[/note]], expect forums on every subsequent Capcom game to make some joke about half the content being on locked disc DLC.
20th May '16 9:33:31 PM ADrago
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** After doing it [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire three]] [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl generations]] [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite in a row]], it's unlikely Game Freak will ever be able to introduce a new generation without comments that the Fire starter better not evolve into Fire/Fighting.

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** After doing it [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire three]] [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl generations]] [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite in a row]], it's unlikely Game Freak will ever be able to introduce a new generation without comments that the Fire starter better not evolve into Fire/Fighting.Fire/Fighting, despite them breaking this trend in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''.
20th May '16 8:24:32 AM Worldclock
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII''. A great deal of the issues that fans bring up about the game such as Hope's TraumaCongaLine induced angst, Lightning's aloofness, the game's linearity, etc. are through gameplay and character development entirely removed at most within the first half of the game and some cases within as little as the first couple hours, but one would never know it if one listened only to the fans about it.
14th May '16 2:11:33 PM Steven
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* Minfilia in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' is a leader of a group of talented individuals where said talents can help deal with the primals and the empire. Because Minfilia gets captured twice and lacked the ability to fight back, people flanderized her into someone who gets kidnapped all the time like [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Princess Peach]] while barking orders at the player character. This is ignoring how in both kidnappings, Minfilia refused to give her captors what they wanted knowing she could be killed for it and the fact that Minfilia is the only one willing and able to do the boring political wetwork behind the scenes while the talents of the player character and the rest of her people can be put to good use where they're needed.
13th May '16 12:15:40 PM Arcana4th
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** The [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2 sequel]] does this to Mahiru. While she is shown to be a much more complex character than what she lets on, most fans see her as a misandrist, due to a dislike of Hajime on the start and scheduling a girls-only get together on chapter 2.
** Also to Kazuichi, who despite having an interesting backstory, is given not much more credit than being a StalkerWithACrush and pervert desperately going after Sonia. Justified in this case, as, if you don't make his free time events, he does gets his share of {{Flanderization}}.
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