History Misblamed / AnimeAndManga

* Parodied in ''SayonaraZetsubouSensei'': An episode begins with the main cast watching a bad movie, whose director defends it by saying that it was 100% faithful to the source material and it's not his fault the original story sucked. The rest of the episode consists of other people making similar excuses, such as a housewife blaming her recipes on the soup her husband didn't like.

*** And those who ''do'' attribute the changes to Fox will constantly claim that they "redubbed" the series, and that the "American" dub was different from the "Canadian" one. Actually they didn't rerecord a single line, only got rid of some for censorship. TheOceanGroup dub is the only English dub in existence, period. (the later release from Creator/BandaiEntertainment was uncut)

* Many European fans believe the English versions for the ''Manga/InuYasha'' songs are produced by TheOceanGroup. They are really made by the Italian dub, sung by Italians, and have only aired in Italy. Anyone who has seen the North American TV broadcasts will quickly tell you the English dub uses the original Japanese ending themes, and the openings aren't broadcast at all due to time constraints (though they are on the DVD's and, yup, in Japanese).

** There's also a lot of people who don't seem to realize that some of these western references put into anime that weren't there in the first place where actually replacing a reference that [[LostInTranslation wouldn't make sense]] elsewhere.

** For that matter, a lot of people who have apparently been ''so'' scathed by ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' assume that anything Toriyama even does the ''art'' for is somehow his writing. For one, no, he was not responsible for the fillers and pacing of ''Dragon Ball Z''. He wrote the story for ''Manga/DragonBall'', etc, but the anime was purposely padded and had a lot of fillers merely because they didn't want to [[OvertookTheManga overtake the manga]]. If he was writing it, you would assume that he wouldn't have padded it so much to keep from overtaking the manga...wouldn't he? No, Toriyama did not ''willingly'' prolong the series...he actually had wanted to end the series as early as ''Dragon Ball'' with Goku winning the Tenkaichi Budokai. In fact, ''Dragon Ball Z'' was supposed to end with the Freeza saga, and then end with the Cell saga -- but because it was so popular, people were wanting more. Likewise, ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' was intended to be ended with Baby. He also did not have as much involvement over ''GT'' as some people even say he did.

*** ''Castle in the Sky'' also ran into another issue, regarding the redone score. American [[NoTrueScotsman "true fans"]] went ballistic and excoriated Disney for LullDestruction (there was also extra comedic chatter from Dola's sons thrown in during the chase scenes). In reality, the rescore was done by original composer Joe Hisaishi with Miyazaki's blessing, and Hisaishi had said that he was never pleased with the original score and liked the new one better. Unfortunately, the complaints from the American fanbase were SO loud and relentless, that when the film was rereleased on DVD and Blu-Ray years later, the rescore was dropped (much, ironically, to the disappointment of fans of the Disney dub); this despite the fact that the rescore IS on the Japanese Blu-Rays. (A similar atmosphere occurred for ''KikisDeliveryService'''s dub, which had a lot of extra chatter from Phil Hartman and some additional pieces of music; when both were dropped, fans of the dub complained.)

*** ''Castle in the Sky'' also ran into another issue, regarding the redone score. American [[NoTrueScotsman "true fans"]] went ballistic and excoriated Disney for LullDestruction (there was also extra comedic chatter from Dola's sons thrown in during the chase scenes). In reality, the rescore was done by original composer Joe Hisaishi with Miyazaki's blessing, and Hisaishi had said that he was never pleased with the original score and liked the new one better. Unfortunately, the complaints from the American fanbase were SO loud and relentless, that when the film was rereleased on DVD and Blu-Ray years later, the rescore was dropped; this despite the fact that the rescore IS on the Japanese Blu-Rays. Ironically, fans of the Disney dub were furious that the new score was dropped. (A similar atmosphere occurred for ''KikisDeliveryService'''s dub, which had a lot of extra chatter from Phil Hartman and some additional pieces of music; when both were dropped, fans of the dub complained.)

*** ''Castle in the Sky'' also ran into another issue, regarding the redone score. American [[NoTrueScotsman "true fans"]] went ballistic and excoriated Disney for LullDestruction (there was also extra comedic chatter from Dola's sons thrown in during the chase scenes). In reality, the rescore was done by original composer Joe Hisaishi with Miyazaki's blessing, and Hisaishi had said that he was never pleased with the original score and liked the new one better. Unfortunately, the complaints from the American fanbase were SO loud and relentless, that when the film was rereleased on DVD and Blu-Ray years later, the rescore was dropped; this despite the fact that the rescore IS on the Japanese Blu-Rays.

*** This Troper also remembers a Media Blasters panel a few years back, in which they said that Japanese companies will often bundle titles together and force the company to release all of the titles before giving them a title they did want (also known as a "package deal"). This was the case with the ''Manga/{{Genshiken}}'' OVA and ''[=Genshiken2=]''. The Japanese licensor refused to give Media Blasters the rights to any more ''Genshiken'' unless they dubbed and released ''Anime/KujibikiUnbalance'' (2006 version), which they did, even though they knew fans would complain (and they did). Eventually, Media Blasters did get to release a set of all 29 Genshiken episodes ''sans'' Kujibiki.

*** This "Toriyama is Anime ''POISON''!" attitude has also unfotunately spread into other stuff he is involved in. ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' is often given a free pass, but would you believe people sometimes refuse to play games like ''DragonQuest'' and ''BlueDragon'' because they assume they're ''Anime/DragonBallZ''? AkiraToriyama has little to no involvement with the writing of ''DragonQuest'', he also did not do that much over the game design (Which was handled by Enix and other companies such as Level 5)

* Many European fans believe the English versions for the ''Manga/InuYasha'' songs are produced by TheOceanGroup. They are really made by the Italian dub, sung by Italians, and have only aired in Italy. Anyone who has seen the North American TV broadcasts will quickly tell you the English version uses the original Japanese ending themes, and the openings aren't broadcast at all due to time constraints (though they are on the DVD's and, yup, in Japanese).

* Many fans believe the English versions for the ''Manga/InuYasha'' songs are produced by the English dubbers. They are really made by the Italian dub, sung by Italians, and have only aired in Italy. The English dub uses the original Japanese songs for the endings, and does not use the openings.

* To add to the general observations above. Many western anime fans don't quite understand the relationship between Production Company, Animation Studio, Director, Original Creator, and Script writer/The rest of the staff, further complicated by the fact that these relationships often change depending on the project. This creates situations where people will blame staff or companies involved for decisions that were actually made by some other entity involved in the project.

** Some ''Pokémon'' fans go further, and blame 4Kids for the many name changes that are actually the fault of Creator/{{Nintendo}} of America, even those "changes" that were just faulty translations to begin with.

** An interview revealed that the series becoming more culturally generic after the first saga was a decision made solely by the Japanese creators, who were very much aware that they had a worldwide franchise on their hands. It was not forced upon them by [=4Kids=] as one faction had been insisting for years.

** Fans of May are quick to complain that they censored her by decreasing her breast size in her Sinnoh reappearance. They didn't censor it, they just followed guidelines better. May's chest was never consistent throughout Hoenn and it was considerably larger than her game version most of the time, so they just updated it to her correct size.

** There was a conspiracy theory in the American fandom that the dub was responsible for changing Yammy ripping Chad's arm apart (as in the manga--a scene that appeared even in the more strictly censored American version of ''Shonen Jump'') to Yammy simply knocking Chad down. That change was made by the original animators, not by the localization team.

* Most complaints about Manga/{{Naruto}}'s English voice being "so annoying" ignore the character is a BrattyHalfPint and state that it just doesn't show up as much when listening to his voice in another language. Instead of sounding like he has a sore throat in English...he sounds like he has a perma-screech in Japanese.
** In fact, let's just throw in ''any'' example of an English dub voice that is called "annoying" despite the fact that it's ''supposed'' to be annoying and the Japanese voice was played in an equally irritating way...But [[DoubleStandard It's not in a dub, and that's alright.]]

** The dub even got blamed for some art changes made for the Japanese [=DVDs=]!
* Among many things they ''do'' deserve to be blamed for, [[FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]] is sometimes bashed for not dubbing the "first season" of ''Anime/YuGiOh'' (which covered the earlier chapters of [[Manga/YuGiOh the manga]]). Except that the "first season" was a different ''series'', made by a different animation company, with sometimes drastically different character designs, and not part of the same continuity as the second.

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*** 4Kids is often blamed for turning Anzu/Tea into a "[[LoveFreak friendship nut]]", citing the speech she gives before Yugi and Kaiba's first duel as if 4Kids had created the whole scene themselves out of thin air. The speech in question and Anzu's tendencies were, again, almost utterly unchanged, being [[CharacterExaggeration slightly exaggerated]] at most.

*** Similarly, the original TV dub of ''{{Escaflowne}}'', produced by Ocean Studios and with changes ordered by Fox, was at one point attributed to [=4Kids=] on this wiki.
**** And those who ''do'' attribute the changes to Fox will constantly claim that they "redubbed" the series, and that the "American" dub was different from the "Canadian" one. Actually they didn't rerecord a single line, only got rid of some for censorship. TheOceanGroup dub is the only English dub in existence, period.
*** As was ''Franchise/{{Digimon}}''. You'd think the group of voice actors (literally coming from ''the other side of the country'') used would be a strong hint.

* A large quantity of the complaints about the ''Manga/{{Mai-HiME}}'' and ''Manga/{{Mai-Otome}}'' mangas stem from not being faithful to the "[[AnimeFirst original anime]]", despite the fact that the production teams were each given settings and characters whose traits they would establish themselves, and were made at the same time. This means that ''neither'' was an adaptation of ''either''.
* Creator/VizMedia was blamed for the horrific dub of ''{{Eyeshield 21}}'' when the blame actually goes to The Eyeshield 21 US Project, a group of Japanese companies who took a bunch of episodes of ''Eyeshield 21'' and merged them into five episodes for a test run. It's unknown if the actual release will be as badly cut, nor whether they'll tone down the less "family-friendly" elements.

** In another case, certain fans often badmouth MarkHildreth for portraying Heero as robotic rather than [[TheStoic subdued]]; at conventions, Hildreth has said this was the decision of the voice director, not him (see below). Reportedly, the constant pestering got to him so much that he's sworn to never work on a ''Gundam'' dub again.
* In a variation, ChristopherSabat, a regular voice director for {{Funimation}} and frequent voice actor, was often leveled criticism for the heavy dialogue alterations for ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' from the third season on. He pointed out that it wasn't his department, the script writing was out of his hands and his job was to do the best he could with the performance. To Funimation's credit, though, they took the time to make both acceptable to fans.

*** There's actually a problem with this one, since the original light novels' author uses "Horo", in direct contradiction to what the official Japanese sources gave to Funimation.

** The story goes that the reason the DVD sets of Funimation's ''OnePiece'' have the characters swearing as much as they do is because a large fraction of the OP fandom requested they put the swearing in. Funimation representatives would go to the forums and ask for feedback and fans who watched the fansubs would ask for stuff like Luffy saying he'd "kick [the bad guys'] ass". As a result the Funimation uncut dub at times sounds like it's [[ObligatorySwearing overcompensating]] (thankfully, it gets less ridiculous as it goes on).

* Speaking of ''Franchise/OnePiece'', the series has a LOT of this. Just to give a few examples: The Government's law enforcers are referred to in Japanese as the "Kaigun" with the word "MARINE" written on their clothes. Thus, most fan-translations went with "Marine" to translate "Kaigun". However, "Kaigun" doesn't actually mean "Marine"; it means "Navy". All English versions correctly translate it as "Navy", and this usually gets a backlash from fans claiming mistranslation. Funimation, aware of this, would - at least for the first 3 seasons - use "Marine" in the dub but translate it correctly as "Navy" in the subtitles; starting with the fourth season, though, they switched to using "Navy" in both.

*** Let the record also show that "Laputa" ''is used in the movie itself without issue'' (pronounced in both English and Japanese with the emphasis on the first syllable rather than the Vulgar Spanish emphasis on the second).

* Creator/ADVFilms occasionally catches flak for their GagDub of ''GhostStories'' from fans who accuse them of completely throwing out the original material just to move a few more [=DVDs=]. In fact, Aniplex, the studio responsible for the show's production, ''told'' ADV to do whatever they wanted to make the series sell, and approved the changes made by ADV.

* Geneon has been for "changing" ''VisualNovel/HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi'''s name to "When They Cry", when in fact the SeriesFranchise that ''Higurashi'' belongs to is known as ''Franchise/WhenTheyCry'' in Japan. ("Higurashi" is the Japanese name for a type of cicada).

*** This Troper also remembers a Media Blasters panel a few years back, in which they said that Japanese Companies will often bundle titles together and force the company to release all of the titles before giving them a title they did want. This was the case with ''Manga/{{Genshiken}}'' OVA and 2. The Japanese Company refused to give the rights to Genshiken unless Media Blasters dubbed and released ''Anime/KujibikiUnbalance'' (2006 version).

* BangZoomEntertainment, a dubbing company, was accused of using interns in dubbing some anime (in particular ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' and ''LightNovel/ZeroNoTsukaima''). While Bang Zoom ''did'' use people new to the business because it was cheaper (as the dubs had a very low budget as they were made right as Creator/{{Geneon}} collapsed), none of the major characters were voiced by interns. Any interns who do voice work are simply doing incidental characters.

* Dub edits will virtually always be blamed solely on the dubbers. In reality, networks [[ExecutiveMeddling impose standards onto the shows they broadcast that the writers have to live up to]], and imported shows are not exempt from this. Also, dub edits are often approved by the company originally producing the show, so they share some responsibility as well.

** In fact, many more Western references made in ''Manga/SailorMoon'' were removed from the English dub, such as Mars being a fan of MichaelJackson, or a Princess Diana {{Expy}} that appeared in the show.
** There's also a lot of people who don't seem to realize that some of these western references put into animes that weren't there in the first place where actually replacing a reference that [[LostInTranslation wouldn't make sense]] elsewhere.
* Sometimes, name changes aren't as bowlderized as you may think. There's the "Castle in the Sky" example listed on this page, and other examples such as [[Manga/DragonBall Chi-Chi]] being changed in Latin America and Portuguese-speaking countries. No, this was done because "Chi-Chi" is regional slang for "Breasts" and "Urine" in Portuguese. Would you ''REALLY'' think it's a good idea to have a character named "Breasts" or "Urine" in a show meant for children and teenagers? Though it's also slang for "breasts" ''in Japanese'', so it certainly got used in a childrens' show in Japan and would have been a LuckyTranslation if it had been kept.

** The [[WesternAnimation/ToonMakersSailorMoon live action/animation blend pilot]] is [[FanNickname nicknamed]] "Saban Moon", after the company that brought SuperSentai to America as ''PowerRangers''. However, Saban actually had nothing to do with this one; it was made by a company called Toon Makers.

**** And those who ''do'' attribute the changes to Fox will constantly claim that they "redubbed" the series, and that the "American" dub was different from the "Canadian" one. Actually they didn't rerecord a single line, only got rid of some for censorsphip. TheOceanGroup dub is the only English dub in existence, period.
*** As was ''Franchise/{{Digimon}}''. You'd think the group of voice actors (literally coming from ''the other side of country'') used would be a strong hint.

** In yet ''another'' dubbing-related example, Funimation is frequently blamed for the changing of characters' names and the title of the American dub and English manga[[hottip:* :published by Creator/VizMedia, who also gets a share of the blame]] of ''Manga/DetectiveConan'', which was called "Case Closed". The name changes were actually requested by the Japanese licensor Tokyo Movie Shinsha, while the title change [[MarketBasedTitle was the result of]] a complaint by one of the owners to the rights of ''ConanTheBarbarian''.

* Funimation gets blamed even before they release shows. In the later installments of ''SpiceAndWolf'', some {{fansub}} groups have been accused of "using Funimation's translation" in [[SpellMyNameWithAnS spelling]] the female lead's name as "Holo" rather than "Horo." Once again, "Holo" is the official spelling according to the Japanese companies and the in-show visuals (as seen in episode 6 of the 2nd season).

* Similarly, when ''Anime/DragonBallKai'' was licensed, Funimation got some flame for "changing" the original title (with the addition of... that... one letter). In reality Toei chose that name for international distribution. Pretty much every country not-Japan got the series with that name.
* The old ''SonicTheHedgehog'' anime {{OAV}}, which was made sometime after the release of ''Sonic the Hedgehog 3'', refers to Knuckles the Echidna (introduced in that game) as a mole. This was preserved for the dub, where it is often misinterpreted as a translation error.

* Anybody who ever shows you a {{Fansub}} and then tells you "yeah, there's a ''lot'' of swearing they take out of this show." [[YouFailLinguisticsForever Lies]]. The Japanese language doesn't ''have'' swear words, just a "polite" and "rude" way of saying things. (The whole concept of "profanity" is a product of Western religion, Catholicism in particular, and does not even have any meaning to a historically isolationist Far East civilization.) For just one example, "kuso" is never a polite term, but it literally means "excrement." How ''strong'' that is depends on context. However, many fan translators with less experience or care towards translations will simply pick the rudest or most shocking equivalent with no concern for the subtlety. Even professional translators struggle with this -- Disney's translation of ''PrincessMononoke'' actually altered a line from something tame ("This soup tastes like water") to something not so tame ("This soup tastes like donkey piss") in their dub while trying to put the line in the context of "rude" Japanese.

* Speaking of ''OnePiece'', the series has a LOT of this. Just to give a few examples: The Government's law enforcers are referred to in Japanese as the "Kaigun" with the word "MARINE" written on their clothes. Thus, most fan-translations went with "Marine" to translate "Kaigun". "Kaigun" doesn't actually mean "Marine", it means "Navy". All English versions correctly translate it as "Navy", and this usually gets a backlash from fans claiming mistranslation. Funimation seems to use "Navy" and "Marine" interchangeably to curtail this though. Another good example is that Mr. 2 constantly refers to himself as a crossdresser (Okama) in the Japanese manga. Toei (the company who produce the anime adaption) objected to this for some reason (probably because he's a walking stereotype) and, in the Japanese version they changed all his references to being a "crossdresser" to being a "Ballerina". This is often called out as a form of "Funimation censorship" when seen in the dub or official subtitles, despite the fact that it was there in the Japanese version too. (Including pretty much all fansubs.)

* Even though the modern dub of ''CastleInTheSky'' has won over many new fans, there are a number of naysayers who have been overly critical of it, and that like most dubs Miyazaki would be ashamed of it. Uh...no he isn't...he actually ''approved'' the dub and the only dub he ''actually'' said to ignore was the old bad dub of Nausicaa from the 80s. And let's not mention the "omg Castle in the sky should be castle Laputa". This was changed because ''Laputa'' happens to resemble the phrase "La Puta", which means "The Whore" in Spanish, a language that more people in North America are likely to understand than in Japan. What would ''you'' think if you saw a film on shelves that was called "Castle The Whore"? Would your first instincts of the AnimationAgeGhetto kick in and think it's a stupid cartoon kids should be watching or would you actually wonder why the hell it's called "Castle The Whore" when it's pretty PG-rated (at most).
** Granted; "Laputa" was actually from Literature/GulliversTravels, and "The whore" was actually the original intention.

* The ''original'' {{Macekre}}, ''{{Robotech}}'' even has some level of this. While CarlMacek did make the scripts for individual episodes, the whole "[[CutAndPasteTranslation make one show using the footage from three]]" wasn't something he decided, and was in fact exactly what he was ''hired to do'' for the sake of a show with enough episode for syndication.
** Poor Carl Macek can't catch a break. Although he was responsible for many of the {{Macekre}}s, he is frequently given "credit" for almost every poorly localized release of '80s anime. Some have even blamed him for the American versions of ''[[NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind Warriors of the Wind]]'' (which was produced by New World Pictures), ''[[{{Macross}} Macross: Clash of the Bionoids]]'' (which was [[HongKongDub dubbed]] by the original Japanese studios and butchered by Just For Kids Video), ''BattleOfThePlanets'' (Sandy Frank) and ''[[MazingerZ Tranzor Z]]'' (3-B Productions).
*** Also he's also blamed for removing death and violence from the three series used for ''Robotech''. Not a single death was removed from Macross, nor was any violence. He is also blamed for ''Robotech: The Movie''. The studio in charge of the film rejected his original script, which apparently was mostly just a straight dub, and demanded all the changes made to it as they had found it depressing.
* TokyoPop has been accused of "flipping" the first series of the ''KingdomHearts'' manga. The manga was released that way in Japan as well.

* Creator/{{Geneon}} and adaptation studio New Generation Pictures caught some grief (on this very wiki, no less) for spelling [[Manga/{{Hellsing}} Alucard's]] name as Arucard. While they wanted to use "Alucard," the Japanese producers insisted on "Arucard" since by their logic, "it's Dracura backwards." At least they got away with pronouncing it "Alucard" in the English dub.
* Geneon has been for "changing" ''VisualNovel/HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi'''s name to "When They Cry -- Higurashi", when in fact, the SeriesFranchise that ''Higurashi'' belongs to is known as ''Franchise/WhenTheyCry'' in Japan.
** And the anime of ''VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' (which hasn't been dubbed yet) got blamed for an instance of Kinzo [[spoiler:turning into a dragon]] in the final episode that a lot of fans found to be rather ridiculous. Thing is, if you read the original VN, you'll see that the scene was, um, also there. It was just described in the narration and not visually rendered on the screen.
* To hear some people, the blame for the collapse of the anime market lies entirely on the backs of harem shows. There are several reasons besides that, such as overbidding, not reaching the right market, the changing market, and the collapse of the whole economy. Actually, many harem series, especially fanservice-laden ones, have been surprise successes -- ''Manga/IkkiTousen'' and ''VisualNovel/{{SHUFFLE}}!'' come to mind -- while cleaner or less formulaic shows get left in the dust.

* BangZoomEntertainment, a dubbing company, was accused of using interns in dubbing some anime (in particular ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' and ''LightNovel/ZeroNoTsukaima''). While Bang Zoom did use people new to the business because it was cheaper (as the dubs had a low budget as they were made right before Creator/{{Geneon}} collapsed), none of the major characters were voiced by interns. Any interns who do voice work are simply doing incidental characters.
** To expand on this... many grossly uninformed warriors in the SubbingVsDubbing conflict will claim that ''all'' English dub voice acting is done by interns, the director's friends/family, homeless people off the street, etc.

** For that matter, a lot of people who have apparently been ''so'' scathed by ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' assume that anything Toriyama even does the ''art'' for is somehow his writing. For one, no, he was not responsible for the fillers and pacing of ''Dragon Ball Z''. He wrote the story for ''Manga/DragonBall'', etc, but the anime was purposely padded and had a lot of fillers merely because they didn't want to overtake the manga. If he was writing it, you would assume that he wouldn't have padded it so much to keep from overtaking the manga...wouldn't he? No, Toriyama did not ''willingly'' prolong the series...he actually had wanted to end the series as early as ''Dragon Ball'' with Goku winning the Tenkaichi Budokai. In fact, ''Dragon Ball Z'' was supposed to end with the Freeza saga, and then end with the Cell saga -- but because it was so popular, people were wanting more. Likewise, ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' was intended to be ended with Baby. He also did not have as much involvement over ''GT'' as some people even say he did.

* ''MacrossFrontier'' is a strange combination of types 3,4, and 5. Fans blame Kawamori for[[spoiler: not resolving the love triangle in the last episode]] because of favoritism and marketing, however this belief was due to a bunch of faked interviews made up by a once respected fan. In actuality it was Yoshino the series script writer who was at fault for [[spoiler: the love triangle not resolving]] and for non of the reasons previously thought. But he also can't be blamed too much due to him being quite chatty when it comes to clarifying [[spoiler: how the series ended.]] But this doesn't stop some of the FanDumb who didn't do their homework from blaming Kawamori for what happened for shipping reasons.
* One argument that has been used against the dub of ''GurrenLagann'' is that [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks in the English versions, the characters refer to the mecha's trademark FinishingMove as the "Giga Drill Break" instead of "Giga Drill Breaker."]] While "Break" admittedly doesn't sound as cool, that is actually what it's supposed to be called -- "Breaker" is a {{Mondegreen}} coming from the GratuitousEnglish of "[[CallingYourAttacks BUUUU-REEEEKKKKAAAAA!]]"

* Due to the seizures caused by the {{Pokemon}} episode "Denno Senshi Porygon", Porygon was blamed for the attacks and banned off the show for good. Actually, Pikachu's Thunderbolt attack triggered the seizures-but this was probably because Pikachu was the main character. Think of what would happen to the sales of Pokemon goods and the ratings of the television show if they DID blame Pikachu for the seizures!

** Similarly, it looks like a good part of the blame for "Kubo's horrible pacing" doesn't come from KuboTite himself, but from ExecutiveMeddling: The editors at Shueisha pushed for the Soul Society Arc to start earlier, instead of giving Kubo more time to develop Ichigo's high school classmates, and for extending the Hueco Mundo and Fake Karakura arcs due to the unexpected popularity of the Arrancar characters. Go tell that to the fans, tho.

* Geneon has been for "changing" ''VisualNovel/HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi'''s name to "When They Cry -- Higurashi", when in fact, the SeriesFranchise that ''Higurashi'' belongs to is known as ''WhenTheyCry'' in Japan.

** Similarly, it looks like a good part of the blame for "Kubo's horrible pacing" doesn't come from Kubo himself, but from ExecutiveMeddling: The editors at Shuiesha pushed for the Soul Society Arc to start earlier, instead of giving Kubo more time to develop Ichigo's high school classmates, and for extending the Hueco Mundo and Fake Karakura arcs due to the unexpected popularity of the Arrancar characters. Go tell that to the fans, tho.

** There's also a lot of people who don't seem to realize that some of these western references put into animes that weren't there in the first place where actually replacing a reference that [[LostInTranslation wouldn't make sense]] elsewhere, and that sometimes, name changes aren't as bowlderized as you may think. There's the "Castle in the Sky" example listed on this page, and other examples such as [[Manga/DragonBall Chi-Chi]] being changed in Latin America and Portuguese-speaking countries. No, this was done because "Chi-Chi" is regional slang for "Breasts" and "Urine" in Portuguese. Would you ''REALLY'' think it's a good idea to have a character named "Breasts" or "Urine" in a show meant for children and teenagers? Especially if it's meant to be taken ''seriously''?

*** Whether Chi-Chi counts is debatable. It's also slang for "breasts" ''in Japanese'', so it certainly got used in a childrens' show in Japan and would have been a LuckyTranslation if it had been kept.

** There are more misblamings in ''Manga/SailorMoon''. The fifth season was not dubbed due to Toei not wanting to sell the rights, not because of the Starlights. (Granted, the possible controversy regarding the Starlights may have been a reason Toei chose not to sell, given the massive {{Bowdlerization}} of Haruka and Michiru...)

** There's also a lot of people who don't seem to realize that some of these western references put into animes that weren't there in the first place where actually replacing a reference that [[LostInTranslation wouldn't make sense]] elsewhere, and that sometimes, name changes aren't as bowlderized as you may think. There's the "Castle in the Sky" example listed on this page, and other examples such as [[Manga/DragonBall Chi-Chi]] being changed in Latin America and Portuguese-speaking countries. No, this was done because "Chi-Chi" is regional slang for "Breasts" and "Urine" in Portuguese. Would you ''REALLY'' think it's a good idea to have a character named "Breasts" or "Urine" in a show meant for children and teenagers? Especially if it's meant to be taken ''seriously''?

* To hear some people, the blame for the collapse of the anime market lies entirely on the backs of harem shows. There are several reasons besides that, such as overbidding, not reaching the right market, the changing market, and the collapse of the whole economy. Actually, many harem series, especially fanservice-laden ones, have been surprise successes -- ''Manga/IkkiTousen'' and ''VisualNovel/{{SHUFFLE}}'' come to mind -- while cleaner or less formulaic shows get left in the dust.
** A member of Creator/MediaBlasters stated that getting titles returned is a normal part of releasing anime, except for {{Hentai}} which is never returned. This is why they don't dub regular niche titles, but will dub things like ''QueensBlade''. Sex sells, so Media Blasters will release it just so they can release shows they do like.

* To hear some people, the blame for the collapse of the anime market lies entirely on the backs of harem shows. There are several reasons besides that, such as overbidding, not reaching the right market, the changing market, and the collapse of the whole economy. Actually, many harem series, especially fanservice-laden ones, have been surprise successes -- ''IkkiTousen'' and ''{{SHUFFLE}}!'' come to mind -- while cleaner or less formulaic shows get left in the dust.
** A member of MediaBlasters stated that getting titles returned is a normal part of releasing anime, except for {{Hentai}} which is never returned. This is why they don't dub regular niche titles, but will dub things like ''QueensBlade''. Sex sells, so Media Blasters will release it just so they can release shows they do like.
*** This Troper also remembers a Media Blasters panel a few years back, in which they said that Japanese Companies will often bundle titles together and force the company to release all of the titles before giving them a title they did want. This was the case with ''Genshiken'' OVA and 2. The Japanese Company refused to give the rights to Genshiken unless Media Blasters dubbed and released Kujibiki Unbalance (2006 version).

* There was a conspiracy theory around the ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' dub, which had shown Yammy only knocking Chad down. Meanwhile, the manga had shown that Yammy had apparently ripped Chad's arm apart. (This was actually shown even in the issue of ''ShonenJump'' which was subject to any kind of censorship.) The conspiracy theory was that they censored it for the dub...when it was actually done in the anime.
** Similarly, it looks like a good part of the blame for "Kubo's horrible pacing" doesn't come from Kubo himself, but from ExecutiveMeddling. Go tell that to the fans, tho.

* In a variation, ChristopherSabat, a regular voice director for {{Funimation}} and frequent voice actor, was often leveled criticism for the heavy dialogue alterations for ''Manga/DragonBall Z'' from the third season on. He pointed out that it wasn't his department, the script writing was out of his hands and his job was to do the best he could with the performance. To Funimation's credit, though, they took the time to make both acceptable to fans.

* Similarly, when ''[[DragonBallKai Dragon Ball Z Kai]]'' was licensed, Funimation got some flame for "changing" the original title (with the addition of... that... one letter). In reality Toei chose that name for international distribution. Pretty much every country not-Japan got the series with that name.

* There's one internet forum (no names will be mentioned to protect the [[strike:innocent]] [[FanDumb idiots]]) where one poster said that "''Manga/DragonBall GT'' was a non-canon cash-in made by {{Funimation}}". Cue FacePalm.
** For that matter, a lot of people who have apparently been ''so'' scathed by ''Manga/DragonBall Z'' assume that anything Toriyama even does the ''art'' for is somehow his writing. For one, no, he was not responsible for the fillers and pacing of ''Manga/DragonBall Z''. He wrote the story for ''Manga/DragonBall'', etc, but the anime was purposely padded and had a lot of fillers merely because they didn't want to overtake the manga. If he was writing it, you would assume that he wouldn't have padded it so much to keep from overtaking the manga...wouldn't he? No, Toriyama did not ''willingly'' prolong the series...he actually had wanted to end the series as early as ''Manga/DragonBall'' with Goku winning the Tenkaichi Budokai. In fact, ''Manga/DragonBall Z'' was supposed to end with the Freeza saga, and then end with the Cell saga -- but because it was so popular, people were wanting more. Likewise, ''DragonBallGT'' was intended to be ended with Baby. He also did not have as much involvement over ''GT'' as some people even say he did.
*** This "Toriyama is Anime ''POISON''!" attitude has also unfotunately spread into other stuff he is involved in. ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' is often given a free pass, but would you believe people sometimes refuse to play games like ''DragonQuest'' and ''BlueDragon'' because they assume they're ''Manga/DragonBall Z''? AkiraToriyama has little to no involvement with the writing of ''DragonQuest'', he also did not do that much over the game design (Which was handled by Enix and other companies such as Level 5)
* ''Manga/DragonBall Z'' and the franchise both going forward and back are often subject to this. Fans will blame anything they don't like about the series... from the change in tone between the original series and ''Z'', to Vegeta's resurrection and HeelFaceTurn, to how long the series ran, to ''DragonballGT'' as a whole, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking to Vegeta's mustache]]... on absolutely anyone but Akira Toriyama. Clearly Toriyama would not have done something ''they'' disliked, so somehow it was either the [[FanDumb rabid stupid other fans]] or [[CorruptCorporateExecutive the evil greedy executives]] that ''made'' [[TheWoobie poor defenseless]] Akira Toriyama do it. Just how the fans could have forced him to do anything or which executives these are that could compel him to do so is never quite made clear.