History Manga / Genshiken

10th Nov '17 4:34:10 PM ExocetCom
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** If [[SpottedFlower Spotted Flower]] is any prediction of a post-Nidaime future...[[spoiler: the [[Expy]] of Hato undergoes gender reassignment surgery yet appears to be in a physical relationship with the Yajima Expy.]]
10th Nov '17 4:29:00 PM ExocetCom
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** If [[SpottedFlower Spotted Flower]] is any prediction of a post-Nidaime future...[[spoiler: the [[Expy]] of Hato undergoes gender reassignment surgery yet appears to be in a physical relationship with the Yajima Expy.]]
10th Jun '17 7:05:04 PM homogenized
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* ADateWithRosiePalms: That's what male and female otaku use hentai for, according to the otaku themselves. An extended sequence showed Sasahara getting into an eroge after he bought his new computer but the scene ends when he finally gets in the mood.

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* ADateWithRosiePalms: ADateWithRosiePalms:
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That's what male and female otaku use hentai for, according to the otaku themselves. An extended sequence showed Sasahara getting into an eroge after he bought his new computer but the scene ends when he finally gets in the mood.



* ElephantInTheLivingRoom: Kousaka never realizes you aren't supposed to discuss it.

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* ElephantInTheLivingRoom: ElephantInTheLivingRoom:
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Kousaka never realizes you aren't supposed to discuss it.



* FishOutOfWater: Kasukabe in the first series.

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* FishOutOfWater: FishOutOfWater:
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Kasukabe in the first series.



* SceneryPorn: The series was acclaimed for its attention to scenery detail early in its serialization. There are a lot of panning shots of the Shiiou University campus, which were inspired by two campuses that the author knew of.

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* SceneryPorn: SceneryPorn:
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The series was acclaimed for its attention to scenery detail early in its serialization. There are a lot of panning shots of the Shiiou University campus, which were inspired by two campuses that the author knew of.
3rd Jun '17 10:33:23 PM Assassin
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** During his graduation day, Kuchiki blurts out he had planned to beat his own record for the whole day before he moved out of his apartment.



* DenserAndWackier: The novel has supernatural elements and a bizarre plot.

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* DenserAndWackier: The Not within the main series, but the novel has supernatural elements and a bizarre plot.



** Kasukabe picks up this trait as well given that she doesn't give much of a damn about beating around the bush.



* FishOutOfWater: Kasukabe.

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* FishOutOfWater: Kasukabe.Kasukabe in the first series.
** Yajima is this in the second relative to the more extreme otakuness of the other members despite being an otaku herself.



* GyaruGirl: Kanji Sasahara's sister is a ''kogal''. Fortunately, she at least changes a little for the better at the end of the manga.

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* GyaruGirl: Kanji Sasahara's sister is a ''kogal''. Fortunately, she at least changes a little for the better at the end of the manga.manga, shedding it by the time Nidaime starts.



* HaremSeries: Of course never ''really'', but invoked in-universe in ''Second Season''. Kasukabe at one point muses to herself that it's as if Madarame has managed to unwittingly find himself right at the point in one where he's spent some personal time with every girl and they've all shown their interest, but he hasn't made any moves towards picking one (because he knows he doesn't have the social experience to be sure about any of this).

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* HaremSeries: Of course never ''really'', but invoked in-universe in ''Second Season''. Kasukabe at one point muses to herself that it's as if Madarame has managed to unwittingly find himself right at the point in one where he's spent some personal time with every girl and they've all shown their interest, but he hasn't made any moves towards picking one (because he knows he doesn't have the social experience to be sure about any of this). This comes at a head when the "Harem" arc has to force



* IronicEcho: Sue goes meta and quotes ''Genshiken itself'' in chapter 56, when Ogiue is fretting over the club's eclectic group of new recruits. Predictably, Ogiue panics when her infamous self-introduction is presented out-of-context to the new members, as she screams for Sue to shut up before she gets to the part about yaoi fangirls.

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* IronicEcho: Sue goes meta and quotes ''Genshiken itself'' in chapter 56, when Ogiue is fretting over the club's eclectic group of new recruits. Predictably, Ogiue panics when her infamous self-introduction is presented out-of-context to the new members, as she screams for Sue to shut up before she gets to the part about yaoi fangirls. She does it again near the end of the series.



* LeftHanging: The second season of the anime doesn't cover the final arc of the manga, leaving about two and a half volumes' worth of material un-animated. It's even {{lampshade|Hanging}}d, as the preview for the last episode has Madarame stating proudly "INCOMPLETE ANIME ARE THE BEST EVER!" Though a new series was made, it's an adaption of ''Nidaime''.

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* LeftHanging: The second season of the anime doesn't cover the final arc of the manga, leaving about two and a half volumes' worth of material un-animated. It's even {{lampshade|Hanging}}d, as the preview for the last episode has Madarame stating proudly "INCOMPLETE ANIME ARE THE BEST EVER!" Though a new series was made, it's an adaption adaptation of ''Nidaime''.



** In Nidaime, [[spoiler: Sue tells Madarame her feelings in Chapter 118.]]

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** In Nidaime, [[spoiler: Sue tells Madarame her feelings in Chapter 118. Later, Madarame reciprocates in the penultimate chapter.]]



* PlotHole: A flash forward at the end of the original manga series shows 3 normal guys walking into the Genshiken room sometime in the future. However, in the first chapter of the new series, the author clearly changed his mind and made the new members 3 girls [[spoiler: actually 2 girls and a "girl"]]. The inconsistency was never explained.

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* PlotHole: A flash forward at the end of the original manga series shows 3 normal guys walking into the Genshiken room sometime in the future. However, in the first chapter of the new series, the author clearly changed his mind and made the new members 3 girls [[spoiler: actually 2 girls and a "girl"]]. The inconsistency was never explained.explained, though one can chalk it up as even more into the future.



** Afternoon, the magazine Genshiken was published in, exists in-universe. Madarame quips that it's sort of obscure and only really caters to otaku.



** To a much more appropriate degree, Madarame, who may even be more shameless about it.

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** To a much more appropriate degree, Madarame, who may even be have been more shameless about it.it early in the series.



* RefugeInAudacity: Sue, both in-universe and outside it. Sue is successfully attending a Japanese high school without anybody but her closest friends (and even for them it takes quite a while) being at all sure she can even ''speak or read Japanese'' beyond parroting lines from anime. Likewise, Sue gets away by being a possibly uncomprehending foreigner to push the envelope on cosplay far beyond what would be socially acceptable in either Japan ''or'' the United States. From an "out of universe" context, Sue's ability to physically and emotionally protect her friends, usually while conveying complete boredom and disinterest, is unrealistic enough (both for her age and in general) that at least by contrast with the more realistic characters it borders on CrazyAwesome, and the series uses this to set up and resolve situations which without her presence would otherwise have darker and longer-term consequences.
* {{Retcon}}: Angela's introduction scene with Madarame in the Anime gets referenced in ''Nidaime'' despite never appearing in the manga prior, because the author really liked it.
* SchoolClubsAreSeriousBusiness: The people who decide which clubs are official are cracking down on those that don't do anything, because there are so many clubs that even the Genshiken's remote space is coveted. (Admittedly, the list of clubs we get to see has some ''amazingly'' suspicious entries.)

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* RefugeInAudacity: Sue, both in-universe and outside it. Sue is successfully attending a Japanese high school college without anybody but her closest friends (and even for them it takes quite a while) being only vaguely hinted at all sure that she can even ''speak or read Japanese'' beyond parroting lines from anime. Likewise, Sue gets away by being a possibly uncomprehending foreigner to push the envelope on cosplay far beyond what would be socially acceptable in either Japan ''or'' the United States. From an "out of universe" context, Sue's ability to physically and emotionally protect her friends, usually while conveying complete boredom and disinterest, is unrealistic enough (both for her age and in general) that at least by contrast with the more realistic characters it borders on CrazyAwesome, and the series uses this to set up and resolve situations which without her presence would otherwise have darker and longer-term consequences.
* {{Retcon}}: Angela's introduction scene with Madarame in the Anime anime gets referenced in ''Nidaime'' despite never appearing in the manga prior, because the author really liked it.
* SchoolClubsAreSeriousBusiness: The Around chapter 8, the people who decide which clubs are official are cracking down on those that don't do anything, because there are so many clubs that even the Genshiken's remote space is coveted. (Admittedly, the list of clubs we get to see has some ''amazingly'' suspicious entries.)



* SequentialArtist: 2 specific arcs are built around attempting to be in this trope. Ougi creates the [[YaoiFanGirl Yaoi]] variety.

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* SequentialArtist: 2 specific arcs are built around attempting to be in this trope. Ougi Ogiue creates the [[YaoiFanGirl Yaoi]] variety.



* SceneryPorn

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* SceneryPornSceneryPorn: The series was acclaimed for its attention to scenery detail early in its serialization. There are a lot of panning shots of the Shiiou University campus, which were inspired by two campuses that the author knew of.
** Nidaime does this for the countryside as well.



* ShrinesAndTemples: The club members visit the Narita Temple during New Year's Eve

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* ShrinesAndTemples: The club members visit the Narita Temple during New Year's EveEve.



** As their friendship develops, Saki becomes quite a bit nicer to Madarame.

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** As their friendship develops, Saki becomes quite a bit nicer to Madarame.Madarame and otaku in general.
3rd Jun '17 9:52:45 PM Assassin
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In November 2010, [[UnCanceled the series is back up again]] as ''Genshiken Nidaime'' (''Genshiken: Second Season'' in the North American release) starting with Chapter 56, which was released as a bonus together with the Japanese ''Genshiken 2'' box-set that covered the start of a new Genshiken headed by Ogiue and continuing in Kodansha's Monthly Afternoon magazine. Originally ''Nidaime'' was intended as a limited-run continuation that was only to last a volume or two, but it has since been picked up for regular serialization and the volume collections are published as volume 10+ of the original series, although localization overseas pegs it as a new series.

A new anime began airing in July 2013, adapting the ''Nidaime'' material. It is unknown what, if anything, will be done with the material from volumes 8 and 9 of the manga.

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In November 2010, [[UnCanceled the series is back up again]] as ''Genshiken Nidaime'' (''Genshiken: Second Season'' in the North American release) starting with Chapter 56, which was released as a bonus together with the Japanese ''Genshiken 2'' box-set that covered the start of a new Genshiken headed by Ogiue and continuing in Kodansha's Monthly Afternoon magazine. Originally ''Nidaime'' was intended as a limited-run continuation that was only to last a volume or two, but it has since been was picked up for regular serialization and until its conclusion in 2016, with the volume collections are published as volume 10+ of the original series, although localization overseas pegs it as a new series.

A new An anime began airing aired in July 2013, adapting the ''Nidaime'' material. It is unknown what, if anything, will be done with the material from volumes 8 and 9 of the manga.
3rd Jun '17 9:51:37 PM Assassin
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18th May '17 11:56:51 AM HighCrate
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* ExpressiveHair: Ogiue.
* EyesAlwaysShut: Tanaka.

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* %%* ExpressiveHair: Ogiue.
* %%* EyesAlwaysShut: Tanaka.



* GenkiGirl: Yoshitake and Susan in Chapter 56.
%%ZCE * GenreSavvy:

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* %%* GenkiGirl: Yoshitake and Susan in Chapter 56.
%%ZCE * GenreSavvy:
56.
25th Mar '17 11:29:56 AM nombretomado
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** One episode had Sasahara and Madarame playing [[NintendoDS DS]]. You can't actually SEE what they are playing, but the BGM of the game is the regular battle theme from ''[[VideoGame/EtrianOdyssey Etrian Odyssey I]]''.

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** One episode had Sasahara and Madarame playing [[NintendoDS [[UsefulNotes/NintendoDS DS]]. You can't actually SEE what they are playing, but the BGM of the game is the regular battle theme from ''[[VideoGame/EtrianOdyssey Etrian Odyssey I]]''.
18th Mar '17 10:29:12 PM DanaO
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* CosplayOtakuGirl: Ohno. Also, Kasukabe the anti-otaku reluctantly cosplays when shamed into doing so. In the last OVA, initially-resistant YaoiFangirl Ogiue is talked into cosplaying in private.

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* CosplayOtakuGirl: Ohno. Also, Kasukabe the anti-otaku reluctantly cosplays when shamed into doing so. In the last OVA, initially-resistant YaoiFangirl Ogiue is talked into cosplaying in private. In ''Second Season'', Angela isn't devoted to cosplay but clearly has none of the Japanese cast's problems with humoring her old friend Ohno, and Sue manages to do this significantly ''more'' than Ohno.



* DeathGlare: Early on this appears to be Ogiue's default expression, primarily because every time we see her she's being reminded of how much she hates otaku culture - including herself - but still can't really stay away.



* HaremSeries: Of course never ''really'', but invoked in-universe in ''Second Season''. Kasukabe at one point muses to herself that it's as if Madarame has managed to unwittingly find himself right at the point in one where he's spent some personal time with every girl and they've all shown their interest, but he hasn't made any moves towards picking one (because he knows he doesn't have the social experience to be sure about any of this).



* RefugeInAudacity: Sue, both in-universe and outside it. Sue is successfully attending a Japanese high school without anybody but her closest friends (and even for them it takes quite a while) being at all sure she can even ''speak or read Japanese'' beyond parroting lines from anime. Likewise, Sue gets away by being a possibly uncomprehending foreigner to push the envelope on cosplay far beyond what would be socially acceptable in either Japan ''or'' the United States. From an "out of universe" context, Sue's ability to physically and emotionally protect her friends, usually while conveying complete boredom and disinterest, is unrealistic enough (both for her age and in general) that at least by contrast with the more realistic characters it borders on CrazyAwesome, and the series uses this to set up and resolve situations which without her presence would otherwise have darker and longer-term consequences.



* SchoolClubsAreSeriousBusiness: The people who decide which clubs are official are cracking down on those that don't do anything, because there are so many clubs that even the Genshiken's remote space is coveted.

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* SchoolClubsAreSeriousBusiness: The people who decide which clubs are official are cracking down on those that don't do anything, because there are so many clubs that even the Genshiken's remote space is coveted. (Admittedly, the list of clubs we get to see has some ''amazingly'' suspicious entries.)


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* ThousandYardStare: Sue's default expression. Unusually for the trope, this seems more a practiced habit than the result of trauma, and carries more intensity than emptiness - in fact, the visual contrast with Ogiue is the main argument against calling it an unusually hollow DeathGlare. Effectively, Ogiue's original gaze conveyed "I hate you and everything otaku and yes I know I am one" while Sue aimed more for "I have been brought back from a place of existential torment to consume the living".
11th Oct '16 4:55:21 AM Morgenthaler
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* MultiGenderedSplitPersonalities: Hato, the WholesomeCrossdresser is male but has a female inside voice/spirit/personality/whatever, teasing him [[ShipperOnDeck each time he is with Madarame]], [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday much to his annoyance]].
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