History Main / Southies

* The stereotypically brash and violent young Scout from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is from Southie, according to Valve.
** Which doesn't explain his Brooklyn accent.
*** Actually, depending on whether he's a "true" Irish Southie or of some other nationality, it could make all the difference. In Boston and surrounding areas, you do run into a good number of people who speak with something more resembling a Brooklyn accent than what you'd consider a stereotypical Bostonian accent.
**** Or it could just be a result of the accents in the game being [[SoBadItsGood intentionally bad.]]

* The stereotypically brash and violent young Scout from ''TeamFortress2'' is from Southie, according to Valve.

Incidentally, no two Boston residents will agree exactly where Southie begins and ends. Is the Waterfront part of Southie? How about Dorchester? Is Dorchester "really" part of Boston or is it a suburb? What about the other suburbs? Have we put way too much thought into this? (Note that the actual compass direction "South" hardly factors in.) In fact, many residents feel that "Southie" and "South Boston" are two different areas, with Southie being a tight knit Irish community and South Boston being the yuppie area right next to it[[hottip:*: Never confuse the two areas in front of someone from Southie, it's a bit of a BerserkButton, and don't even ''try'' to compare it to [[GayBorHood the South End]]]]. The short version is "if you're in Boston and surrounded by working-class Irish, you're in Southie."

* ''TheForbiddenKingdom.'' Yes, you'd be excused if you thought this was [[NeverTrustATrailer an action fantasy set entirely in ancient China]] [[JustHereForGodzilla starring Jet Li and Jackie Chan]]. Well, there is also a [[TheScrappy Modern-Day Young, White, Male]] [[{{Americanization}} American Character]] who was evidently only in the story to get the plot moving and for [[YouSuck the audience]] (who would be surely be [[ViewersAreMorons confused and enraged]] by a story set in ancient China with an all-Asian cast) [[YouSuck to relate to]]. Now, of all the arbitrary American cities this character could have hailed from...

* Of course, ''{{Southie}}'', starring [[NewKidsOnTheBlock Donnie Wahlberg]]. Memorably had a tagline which claimed that our fair neighborhood was "the most dangerous city in America!" Yeah... no.

* ''GoneBabyGone'' is about Southie and certainly features many of the crime elements, but is more accurate than most, as Ben Affleck, who was actually raised in Cambridge, MA, and actively tried to get people who really lived there to contribute to the film.
** Affleck's next film, ''TheTown'', also features much of the same Southie elements as ''Gone Baby Gone'' did.

Incidentally, no two Boston residents will agree exactly where Southie begins and ends. Is the Waterfront part of Southie? How about Dorchester? Is Dorchester "really" part of Boston or is it a suburb? What about the other suburbs? Have we put way too much thought into this? (Note that the actual compass direction "South" hardly factors in.) In fact, many residents feel that "Southie" and "South Boston" are two different areas, with Southie being a tight knit Irish community and South Boston being the yuppie area right next to it[[hottip:*: Never confuse the two areas in front of someone from Southie, it's a bit of a BerserkButton, and don't even ''try'' to compare it to [[GayBorHood the South End]]]].

The real Southie is, in actuality, much less dangerous than in years past. Currently, a surprisingly large portion of the population consists of... [[BoringButPractical Yuppies]]. As with New Englanders in general, Southie folk are really nice people -- when it isn't freezing cold or blisteringly hot outside.

The good folks of {{Boston}} hope that Hollywood will eventually stop assuming that [[BigApplesauce fun things can only happen in New York City]], and that someday we will get a movie set in Boston about sunshine and happy music and cute puppies and basically ''anything'' other than the mob, violent crime, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Harvard]], and so on. Expect this to be an increasingly common complaint if economically minded filmmakers follow the trail of ''TheWomen'' (2008) and start using "Boston Doubling" for scenes ''set in NewYorkCity''. Ouch.

Residents of South {{Boston}}, MA.

* Of course, ''{{Southie}}'', starring [[NewKidsOnTheBlock Donnie Wahlberg]]. Memorably had a whopper of a WallBanger as it's tagline, which claimed that our fair neighborhood was "the most dangerous city in America!" Yeah... no.

Incidentally, no two Boston residents will agree exactly where Southie begins and ends. Is the Waterfront part of Southie? How about Dorchester? Is Dorchester "really" part of Boston or is it a suburb? What about the other suburbs? Have we put way too much thought into this? (Note that the actual compass direction "South" hardly factors in.) In fact, many residents feel that "Southie" and "South Boston" are two different areas, with Southie being a tight knit Irish community and South Boston being the yuppie area right next to it[[hottip:*: Never confuse the two areas in front of someone from Southie, it's a bit of a BerserkButton, and don't even ''try'' to compared it to [[GayBorHood the South End]]]].

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* "Southies" has also become something of an inside joke here due to a YKTTW for "Southies" with no text other than "SelfExplanatory" that led to the page "NotSelfExplanatory" and similar "it's not obvious to everyone" examples.

* As ''Literature/AllSouls'' shows, this trope does have some basis in RealLife. In the 1970s and 80s, this was one of the worst places in the country to live it, as [=Michael MacDonald=] found out growing up there.

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That said, TVTropes must ''strongly'' caution readers against wearing ''anything'' with a New York Yankees logo when visiting [[SeriousBusiness anywhere in the upper-right hand corner]] of the [=USA=]. Wearing orange in South Boston, especially on St. Patrick's Day, is [[TheTroubles also not a very smart thing to do]]. (Oh, you're free to wear it... just wear something else over it. Like [[FanDumb body armor]].)

"Southies" has also become something of an inside joke due to a YKTTW for "Southies" with no text other than "SelfExplanatory" that led to the page "NotSelfExplanatory" and similar "it's not obvious to everyone" examples.

See also HollywoodNewEngland. For real crooks see TheIrishMob.

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Incidentally, no two Boston residents will agree exactly where Southie begins and ends. Is the Waterfront part of Southie? How about Dorchester? Is Dorchester "really" part of Boston or is it a suburb? What about the other suburbs? Have we put way too much thought into this? (Note that the actual compass direction "South" hardly factors in.) In fact, many residents feel that "Southie" and "South Boston" are two different areas, with Southie being a tight knit Irish community and South Boston being the yuppie area right next to it[[hottip:*: Never confuse the two areas in front of someone from Southie, it's a bit of a BerserkButton, and don't even ''try'' to compared it to [[GayBordHood the South End]].

Incidentally, no two Boston residents will agree exactly where Southie begins and ends. Is the Waterfront part of Southie? How about Dorchester? Is Dorchester "really" part of Boston or is it a suburb? What about the other suburbs? Have we put way too much thought into this? (Note that the actual compass direction "South" hardly factors in.) In fact, many residents feel that "Southie" and "South Boston" are two different areas, with Southie being a tight knit Irish community and South Boston being the yuppie area right next to it[[hottip:*: Never confuse the two areas in front of someone from Southie, it's a bit of a BeserkButton]].

* ''GoneBabyGone'' is about Southie and certainly features many of the crime elements, but is more accurate than most, as Ben Affleck, who was actually born and raised in Southie, wrote and directed the film.
** Actually, Ben Affleck was born in California and raised in Cambridge, MA. It's still a good movie though.

Residents of South {{Boston}}, MA.

Incidentally, no two Boston residents will agree exactly where Southie begins and ends. Is the Waterfront part of Southie? How about Dorchester? Is Dorchester "really" part of Boston or is it a suburb? What about the other suburbs? Have we put way too much thought into this? (Note that the actual compass direction "South" hardly factors in.)

The real Southie is, in actuality, much less dangerous than in years past. As with New Englanders in general, Southie folk are really quite nice people -- when it isn't freezing cold or blisteringly hot outside. That said, TVTropes must ''strongly'' caution readers against wearing ''anything'' with a New York Yankees logo when visiting [[SeriousBusiness anywhere in the upper-right hand corner]] of the [=USA=]. Wearing orange in South Boston, especially on St. Patrick's Day, is [[TheTroubles also not a very smart thing to do]]. (Oh, you're free to wear it... just wear something else over it. Like [[FanDumb body armor]].)

* Of course, ''{{Southie}}'', starring [[NewKidsOnTheBlock Donnie Wahlberg]].

** The tagline of which was 'The Most Dangerous Neighborhood In America'. This Troper, a lifelong New Englander, begs to differ. (''cough'' Compton ''cough'')
*** Hell, not even the most dangerous city on the East Coast. Camden, {{New Jersey}} should easily be taking that one.
*** Or Newark, {{New Jersey}}. They're both pretty scary places nowadays.
*** Don't forget about Hartford and Bridgeport Connecticut two of the most statistically dangerous cities in the US.
**** Not even the most dangerous city in Massachusetts. Springfield, for example. Or Lawrence.

** It's debatable whether this belongs here, as the pair in question were actually Irish immigrants, with a mother still in Ireland, and had not lived in South Boston more than a few years. It applies to everyone else, though.
*** Oh, it absolutely counts. If there's one movie that gave the rest of the world a warped vision of South Boston, this is it.

** Which is funny, because he sounds like a Yankees fan from [[BrooklynRage Brooklyn]].