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* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven! Which is inverted in the commercials for DirecTV that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.

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* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven! Which is inverted in the commercials for DirecTV [=DirecTV=] that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.

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->''I live by syllogisms: God is love. Love is blind. Music/StevieWonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God. I don't know what I'd believe in if it wasn't for that.''

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->''I ->''"I live by syllogisms: God is love. Love is blind. Music/StevieWonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God. I don't know what I'd believe in if it wasn't for that.''"''



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* Comedian RichardJeni talks about when he learned about the syllogism in college, giving a shortened version of the page quote as an example (Music/RayCharles instead of Music/StevieWonder), in his ''Crazy from the Heat'' stand-up routine.
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* There's an old joke revolving around the word ''nothing'', similar to the example above, where a bar patron turns down a beer from the bartender because "nothing is better than a cold drink".
** ComicStrip/{{Garfield}} has a similar philosophy. "If nobody is perfect, I must be nobody."
** Similarly, Anadin pain pills used to be marketed with the slogan "Nothing acts faster than Anadin", prompting the zinger "So take nothing -- it's cheaper".
* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven! Which is inverted in the commercials for DirecTV that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.
* This joke: A kid asks his teacher "You wouldn't punish me for something I didn't do, would you?" The teacher says "Of course I wouldn't." The kid says, "Good, because I didn't do my homework!" (He's changing the meaning of "something I didn't do" from "something wrong that was not done by me" to "something I should have done and failed to.") This joke also came up in the third ''Literature/CaptainUnderpants'' book.
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-->''Emptiness is loneliness.''
-->''And loneliness is cleanliness.''
-->''And cleanliness is godliness.''
-->''And God is empty, just like me.''

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-->''Emptiness is loneliness.\\
And loneliness is cleanliness.\\
And cleanliness is godliness.\\
And God is empty, just like me.
''
-->''And loneliness is cleanliness.''
-->''And cleanliness is godliness.''
-->''And God is empty, just like me.''

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--> Why, if thou never wast at court, thou never sawest good manners; if thou never sawest good manners, then thy manners must be wicked; and wickedness is sin, and sin is damnation. Thou art in a parlous state, shepherd.

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--> -->'''Touchstone:''' Why, if thou never wast at court, thou never sawest good manners; if thou never sawest good manners, then thy manners must be wicked; and wickedness is sin, and sin is damnation. Thou art in a parlous state, shepherd.

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-->'''Employee:''' Sir, please don't touch that.
-->'''Patron:''' But it's a replica, isn't it?
-->'''Employee:''' Yes, it is, but we still ask for you not to touch it.
-->'''Patron:''' Well, it's not under a glass case, which means it's not valuable. I have every right to touch it.
-->'''Employer:''' No, actually-
-->'''Patron:''' Yes, if I see something that's not cased, it means I can touch it, AND I WILL TOUCH IT!

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-->'''Employee:''' Sir, please don't touch that.
-->'''Patron:'''
that.\\
'''Patron:'''
But it's a replica, isn't it?
-->'''Employee:'''
it?\\
'''Employee:'''
Yes, it is, but we still ask for you not to touch it.
-->'''Patron:'''
it.\\
'''Patron:'''
Well, it's not under a glass case, which means it's not valuable. I have every right to touch it.
-->'''Employer:'''
it.\\
'''Employer:'''
No, actually-
-->'''Patron:'''
actually--\\
'''Patron:'''
Yes, if I see something that's not cased, it means I can touch it, AND I WILL TOUCH IT!




* There's an old joke revolving around the word ''nothing'', similar to the example above, where a bar patron turns down a beer from the bartender because "nothing is better than a cold drink".
** ComicStrip/{{Garfield}} has a similar philosophy. "If nobody is perfect, I must be nobody."
** Similarly, Anadin pain pills used to be marketed with the slogan "Nothing acts faster than Anadin", prompting the zinger "So take nothing - it's cheaper".



--> All the world loves a lover
--> I love you, therefore I am a lover
--> You are all the world to me, therefore you love me

* Comedian RichardJeni talks about when he learned about the syllogism in college, giving a shortened version of the page quote as an example (RayCharles instead of StevieWonder), in his ''Crazy from the Heat'' stand-up routine.

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--> All -->''All the world loves a lover
-->
lover\\
I love you, therefore I am a lover
-->
lover\\
You are all the world to me, therefore you love me

* Comedian RichardJeni talks about when he learned about the syllogism in college, giving a shortened version of the page quote as an example (RayCharles instead of StevieWonder), in his ''Crazy from the Heat'' stand-up routine.
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-->x/x=1
-->0/x=0
-->x/0 is undefined
-->0/0 is simultaneously 1,0, and undefined
-->1 is equal to 0 and both are undefined.

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-->x/x=1
-->0/x=0
-->x/0
-->x/x=1\\
0/x=0\\
x/0
is undefined
-->0/0
undefined\\
0/0
is simultaneously 1,0, and undefined
-->1
undefined\\
1
is equal to 0 and both are undefined.



-->Women = Time, Money
-->Since Time = Money,
-->Women = Money, Money
--> = Money squared
-->Since Money = the root of all Evil,
-->Women = (the square root of Evil) squared
-->Women = Evil

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-->Women = Time, Money
-->Since
Money\\
Since
Time = Money,
-->Women
Money,\\
Women
= Money, Money
-->
Money\\
= Money squared
-->Since
squared\\
Since
Money = the root of all Evil,
-->Women
Evil,\\
Women
= (the square root of Evil) squared
-->Women
squared\\
Women
= Evil



* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven!
** Which is inverted in the commercials for DirecTV that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.
* This joke: A kid asks his teacher "You wouldn't punish me for something I didn't do, would you?" The teacher says "Of course I wouldn't." The kid says, "Good, because I didn't do my homework!" (He's changing the meaning of "something I didn't do" from "something wrong that was not done by me" to "something I should have done and failed to.")
** This joke also came up in the third ''[[Literature/CaptainUnderpants Captain Underpants]]'' book.



-->Knowledge is power.
-->Power corrupts.
-->Study hard. [[EvilIsCool It makes you evil]].

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-->Knowledge is power.
-->Power corrupts.
-->Study
power.\\
Power corrupts.\\
Study
hard. [[EvilIsCool It makes you evil]].



-->Knowledge is power.
-->Power corrupts.
-->Corruption is a crime.
-->Crime never pays.
-->Study hard. It makes you broke.

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-->Knowledge is power.
-->Power corrupts.
-->Corruption
power.\\
Power corrupts.\\
Corruption
is a crime.
-->Crime
crime.\\
Crime
never pays.
-->Study
pays.\\
Study
hard. It makes you broke.broke.
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* A version commonly found on {{Fauxtivational Poster}}s in places of education:
-->Knowledge is power.
-->Power corrupts.
-->Study hard. [[EvilIsCool It makes you evil]].
* The above FauxtivationalPoster also has a well-known counterargument taking the same logic further:
-->Knowledge is power.
-->Power corrupts.
-->Corruption is a crime.
-->Crime never pays.
-->Study hard. It makes you broke.
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-->Since Money = the route of all Evil,
-->Women = (the square route of Evil) squared

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-->Since Money = the route root of all Evil,
-->Women = (the square route root of Evil) squared
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** This joke also came up in the third ''[[Literature/CaptainUnderpants Captain Underpants]]'' book.
* A cat has three tails. No cat has two tails, and one cat has one more tail than no cat; therefore, one cat has three tails.
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-->. = Money squared

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-->. --> = Money squared
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Women = Time, Money
Since Time = Money,
Women = Money, Money
= Money squared
Since Money = the route of all Evil,
Women = (the square route of Evil) squared
Women = Evil

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Women -->Women = Time, Money
Since -->Since Time = Money,
Women -->Women = Money, Money
Money
-->.
= Money squared
Since -->Since Money = the route of all Evil,
Women -->Women = (the square route of Evil) squared
Women -->Women = Evil
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I had a great example of this trope, and I saw it nowhere else on the page. How are you?

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*Also in mathematics:
Women = Time, Money
Since Time = Money,
Women = Money, Money
= Money squared
Since Money = the route of all Evil,
Women = (the square route of Evil) squared
Women = Evil
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* This excerpt from Music/TheSmashingPumpkins' "Zero":
-->''Emptiness is loneliness.''
-->''And loneliness is cleanliness.''
-->''And cleanliness is godliness.''
-->''And God is empty, just like me.''
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* Mathmatics easily falls prey to this if you ignore a few key rules, e.g.:

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* Mathmatics Mathematics easily falls prey to this if you ignore a few key rules, e.g.:
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** Which is inverted in the commercials for DirecTV that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.
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* This joke: A kid asks his teacher "You wouldn't punish me for something I didn't do, would you?" The teacher says "Of course I wouldn't." The kid says, "Good, because I didn't do my homework!" (He's changing the meaning of "something I didn't do" from "something wrong that was not done by me" to "something I should have done and failed to.")
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** Not really a Four Terms Fallacy, just a normal syllogism with an implicit proposition of "Only things that last forever are worth fighting for" and it really hinges on the acceptance of that proposition. Note that the two times "nothing" appears it means the same thing.
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* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven!
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* We've all heard the story about the parent who buys a {{Hentai}} for their 10-year-old, only to return it in a rage to the store where they bought it, because in spite of the explicit picture on the front, and the ratings and warnings all over the box, reasoning that, [[AnimationAgeGhetto "It's a cartoon, and cartoons are for kids, so it must be kid-friendly!"]]
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A standard three-step syllogism uses three terms -- the things that are being linked by the line of reasoning. If A, then B. If B, then C. Therefore if A, then C. The fallacy of four terms occurs when, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin exactly like it says]] ''four'' terms are used instead of three. In most cases, a single term (B) is used two (or more) times, in differing contexts with different meanings; and yet the argument treats the two usages as exactly the same, since the same term was used.

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A standard three-step syllogism uses three terms -- the things that are being linked by the line of reasoning. If A, then B. If B, then C. Therefore if A, then C. The fallacy of four terms occurs when, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin exactly like it says]] says]], ''four'' terms are used instead of three. In most cases, a single term (B) is used two (or more) times, in differing contexts with different meanings; and yet the argument treats the two usages as exactly the same, since the same term was used.



* Mathmatics easily falls prey to this if you ignore a few key rules. i.e.:

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* Mathmatics easily falls prey to this if you ignore a few key rules. i.rules, e.g.:
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-->0/0 is simultaneously 1,0, and undefined
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* Mathmatics easily falls prey to this if you ignore a few key rules. i.e.:
-->x/x=1
-->0/x=0
-->x/0 is undefined
-->1 is equal to 0 and both are undefined.
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* Commonly used in LSAT testing for law school admissions in the United States. For example, using the word interest to mean financial stake, concern, or welfare. "The judge has no financial ties to the settlement with ABC Company. He is completely disinterested." This is not the same thing as saying he is "uninterested."
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* Comedian RichardJeni talks about when he learned about the syllogism in college, giving a shortened version of the page quote as an example (RayCharles instead of StevieWonder), in his ''Crazy from the Heat'' stand-up routine.
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* In ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', libraries warp spacetime because "knowledge=power=energy=matter=mass".

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* In ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', libraries warp spacetime because "knowledge=power=energy=matter=mass".
"knowledge=power=energy=matter=mass", and enough mass gives you a blackhole.
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->''I live by syllogisms: God is love. Love is blind. StevieWonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God. I don't know what I'd believe in if it wasn't for that.''
-->-- '''StephenColbert''', ''TheColbertReport''

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->''I live by syllogisms: God is love. Love is blind. StevieWonder Music/StevieWonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God. I don't know what I'd believe in if it wasn't for that.''
-->-- '''StephenColbert''', ''TheColbertReport''
'''Creator/StephenColbert''', ''Series/TheColbertReport''



It's best explained by this example from ''LandOfTheBlind.''

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It's best explained by this example from ''LandOfTheBlind.''Film/LandOfTheBlind.''



* In ''{{Discworld}}'', libraries warp spacetime because "knowledge=power=energy=matter=mass".

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* In ''{{Discworld}}'', ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', libraries warp spacetime because "knowledge=power=energy=matter=mass".



* The StephenColbert quote at the top of the page is an example of such a fallacy, with a dash of ConverseError for flavor.
* An episode of ''YesMinister'' called this by name, as "The Politician's Syllogism", specifically the form: "Something must be done. This is something. Therefore we must do this." The two different meanings of "something": "A solution to this problem" and "A thing" are mixed and said to be the same.

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* The StephenColbert Creator/StephenColbert quote at the top of the page is an example of such a fallacy, with a dash of ConverseError for flavor.
* An episode of ''YesMinister'' ''Series/YesMinister'' called this by name, as "The Politician's Syllogism", specifically the form: "Something must be done. This is something. Therefore we must do this." The two different meanings of "something": "A solution to this problem" and "A thing" are mixed and said to be the same.



* [[ZerothLawOfTropeExamples Shakespeare did it first.]] In ''AsYouLikeIt'', Touchstone proves that Corin is going to hell because he's never been in court.

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* [[ZerothLawOfTropeExamples Shakespeare did it first.]] In ''AsYouLikeIt'', ''Theatre/AsYouLikeIt'', Touchstone proves that Corin is going to hell because he's never been in court.



* The [[OmnicidalManiac Heys]] in ''TheTick'' worship Nothing, as outlined in translation from their PokemonSpeak: "Nothing lasts forever. Nothing is worth fighting for."

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* The [[OmnicidalManiac Heys]] in ''TheTick'' ''WesternAnimation/TheTick'' worship Nothing, as outlined in translation from their PokemonSpeak: "Nothing lasts forever. Nothing is worth fighting for."



** {{Garfield}} has a similar philosophy. "If nobody is perfect, I must be nobody."

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** {{Garfield}} ComicStrip/{{Garfield}} has a similar philosophy. "If nobody is perfect, I must be nobody."

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Nothing is better than eternal happiness.\\
Therefore, a dry crust of bread is better than eternal happiness.

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Nothing But nothing is better than eternal happiness.a big juicy steak.\\
Therefore, a dry crust of bread is better than eternal happiness.
a big juicy steak.
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A standard three-step syllogism uses three terms -- the things that are being linked by the line of reasoning. If A, then B. If B, then C. Therefore if A, then C. The fallacy of four terms occurs when, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin exactly like it says]] ''four'' terms are used instead of three. In most cases, a single term (B) is used two (or more) times, in differing contexts with different meanings; and yet the argument treats the two usages as exactly the same, since the same term was used.

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A standard three-step syllogism uses three terms -- the things that are being linked by the line of reasoning. If A, then B. If B, then C. Therefore if A, then C. The fallacy of four terms occurs when, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin exactly like it says]] ''four'' terms are used instead of three. In most cases, a single term (B) is used two (or more) times, in differing contexts with different meanings; and yet the argument treats the two usages as exactly the same, since the same term was used.
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* In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0725.html this]] ''Webcomic/OrderOfTheStick'', the Empress is committing the Four Terms fallacy by using "grown larger" in two different senses: Dragons that are more powerful have grown larger (as a result of age), so she thinks that if she grows larger (by eating more and getting fat) that she will also be more powerful. That's not the only fallacy involved in her reasoning, either.

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* In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0725.html this]] ''Webcomic/OrderOfTheStick'', ''[[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Order of the Stick]]'', the Empress is committing the Four Terms fallacy by using "grown larger" in two different senses: Dragons that are more powerful have grown larger (as a result of age), so she thinks that if she grows larger (by eating more and getting fat) that she will also be more powerful. That's not the only fallacy involved in her reasoning, either.



* In a museum, an employee sees a patron tapping on one of the replicas with his fist.

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* In a museum, an employee sees a patron tapping on one of the replicas with his fist.



:: The four terms used in the fallacy here are
# "It is not in a glass case"
# "I can (in the sense of "am physically able to") touch it",
# "I can (in the sense of "am permitted to") touch it" and
# "I will touch it".

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:: The four terms used in the fallacy here are
are
# "It is not in a glass case"
case"
# "I can (in the sense of "am physically able to") touch it",
it",
# "I can (in the sense of "am permitted to") touch it" and
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--> The four terms fallacy here are 1: "it is not in a glass case" 2: "I can (am physically able to) touch it", 3: "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and 4: "I will touch it". If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).

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\n--> :: The four terms used in the fallacy here are 1: "it are
# "It
is not in a glass case" 2: case"
#
"I can (am (in the sense of "am physically able to) to") touch it", 3: it",
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"I can (am (in the sense of "am permitted to) to") touch it" and 4: and
#
"I will touch it". If it".
::If
1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).
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--> You are all the world to me, therefore you love me

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--> You are all the world to me, therefore you love meme

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* The StephenSondheim musical ''AnyoneCanWhistle'' explains in "simple" terms what's wrong with leftists:

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* The StephenSondheim musical ''AnyoneCanWhistle'' ''Theatre/AnyoneCanWhistle'' explains in "simple" terms what's wrong with leftists:
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--> I love you, therefor I am a lover

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--> I love you, therefor therefore I am a lover
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* WoodyAllen provided one in ''Love And Death'': "Fact: Socrates was a mortal. Fact: All men are mortal. Therefore: All men are Socrates."
** It's mostly just an Association Fallacy. There isn't really a logical difference between being mortal and being a mortal (a mortal is just "one who is mortal", so changing "is mortal" to "is a mortal" just reinforces that Socrates is a person)

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