History Main / FourTermsFallacy

6th Jun '17 1:55:52 PM Madrugada
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* Anadin pain pills used to be marketed with the slogan "Nothing acts faster than Anadin", prompting the zinger "So take nothing -- it's cheaper".



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* ComicStrip/{{Garfield}} expresses the philosophy. "If nobody is perfect, I must be nobody."
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** ComicStrip/{{Garfield}} has a similar philosophy. "If nobody is perfect, I must be nobody."
** Similarly, Anadin pain pills used to be marketed with the slogan "Nothing acts faster than Anadin", prompting the zinger "So take nothing -- it's cheaper".



* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven! Which is inverted in [=DirecTV's=] Advertising/GetRidOfCable commercials that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.

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* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven! Which is inverted in [=DirecTV's=] Advertising/GetRidOfCable commercials that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.



* Another commonly cited example:
-->All dogs have four legs.\\
My cat has four legs.\\
Therefore, my cat is a dog.



* In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0725.html this]] ''[[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Order of the Stick]]'', the Empress is committing the Four Terms fallacy by using "grown larger" in two different senses: Dragons that are more powerful have grown larger (as a result of age), so she thinks that if she grows larger (by eating more and getting fat) that she will also be more powerful. That's not the only fallacy involved in her reasoning, either.

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* In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0725.html this]] ''[[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Order of the Stick]]'', the Empress is committing the Four Terms fallacy by using "grown larger" in two different senses: Dragons that are more powerful have grown larger (as a result of age), so she thinks that if she grows larger (by eating more and getting fat) that she will also be more powerful. That's not the only fallacy involved in her reasoning, either.either; she's also committing FalseCause, by attributing power to size.



* Then there's the story about the parent who buys {{Hentai}} for their 10-year-old, only to return it in a rage to the store where they bought it, because in spite of the explicit picture on the front, and the ratings and warnings all over the box, reasoning that, [[AnimationAgeGhetto "It's a cartoon, and cartoons are for kids, so it must be kid-friendly!"]]

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* Then there's the story about the parent who buys {{Hentai}} for their 10-year-old, only to return it in a rage to the store where they bought it, because in spite of the explicit picture on the front, and the ratings and warnings all over the box, reasoning they reasoned that, [[AnimationAgeGhetto "It's a cartoon, animated, cartoons are animated, and cartoons are for kids, so it must be kid-friendly!"]]for kids!"]]
6th Jun '17 1:47:08 PM Madrugada
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* Comedian Creator/RichardJeni talks about when he learned about the syllogism in college in his ''Crazy from the Heat'' stand-up routine. God is love. Love is blind. Therefore, Music/RayCharles is God. Also, men are going bald, and they're from planet Earth. Women are not losing hair. Therefore, women are not from Earth.

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* Comedian Creator/RichardJeni talks about when he learned about the syllogism in college in his ''Crazy from the Heat'' stand-up routine. God is love. Love is blind. Therefore, Music/RayCharles is God. Also, men are going bald, and they're from planet Earth. Women are not losing hair. Therefore, women are not from Earth.
6th Jun '17 1:45:25 PM Madrugada
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* Comedian Creator/RichardJeni talks about when he learned about the syllogism in college in his ''Crazy from the Heat'' stand-up routine. God is love. Love is blind. Therefore, Music/RayCharles is God. Also, men are going bald, and they're from planet Earth. Women are not losing hair. Therefore, women are not from Earth.


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* Comedian Creator/RichardJeni talks about when he learned about the syllogism in college in his ''Crazy from the Heat'' stand-up routine. God is love. Love is blind. Therefore, Music/RayCharles is God. Also, men are going bald, and they're from planet Earth. Women are not losing hair. Therefore, women are not from Earth.
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6th Jun '17 1:44:37 PM Madrugada
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* [=HuHot=] Mongolian Grill used this fallacy in a comic radio ad promoting their new "to-go" service, aired in mid 2017. The two people speaking are a museum guard and a woman eating a HuHot To-Go Meal. He tells her that she can't eat that here (in the museum). She replies that certainly she can, it's designed to be eaten anywhere. He repeats that she can't eat it in the museum, adding that there's a "no-food policy". She again asserts that she not only ''can'' eat it there, she ''is'' eating it there. The term that's doubled-up is "can". The guard is using it in the sense of "allowed or permitted", the woman is using it in the sense of "capable of".

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* [=HuHot=] [=Hu-Hot=] Mongolian Grill used this fallacy in a comic radio ad promoting their new "to-go" service, aired in mid 2017. The two people speaking are a museum guard and a woman eating a HuHot Hu-Hot To-Go Meal. He tells her that she can't eat that here (in the museum). She replies that certainly she can, it's designed to be eaten anywhere. He repeats that she can't eat it in the museum, adding that there's a "no-food policy". She again asserts that she not only ''can'' eat it there, she ''is'' eating it there. The term that's doubled-up is "can". The guard is using it in the sense of "allowed or permitted", the woman is using it in the sense of "capable of".
6th Jun '17 1:43:10 PM Madrugada
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* [=HuHot=] Mongolian Grill used this fallacy in a comic radio ad promoting their new "to-go" service, aired in mid 2017. The two people speaking are a museum guard and a woman eating a HuHot To-Go Meal. He tells her that she can't eat that here (in the museum). She replies that certainly she can, it's designed to be eaten anywhere. He repeats that she can't eat it in the museum, adding that there's a "no-food policy". She again asserts that she not only ''can'' eat it there, she ''is'' eating it there. The term that's doubled-up is "can". The guard is using it in the sense of "allowed or permitted", the woman is using it in the sense of "capable of".



* In a museum, an employee sees a patron tapping on one of the replicas with his fist.
-->'''Employee:''' Sir, please don't touch that.\\
'''Patron:''' But it's a replica, isn't it?\\
'''Employee:''' Yes, it is, but we still ask for you not to touch it.\\
'''Patron:''' Well, it's not under a glass case, which means it's not valuable. I have every right to touch it.\\
'''Employer:''' No, actually--\\
'''Patron:''' Yes, if I see something that's not cased, it means I can touch it, AND I WILL TOUCH IT!
:: :The four terms used in the fallacy here are
## "It is not in a glass case"
## "I can (in the sense of "am physically able to") touch it",
## "I can (in the sense of "am permitted to") touch it" and
## "I will touch it".
:: :If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).
16th Mar '17 10:16:39 AM Matthewbr523
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* This joke: A kid asks his teacher "You wouldn't punish me for something I didn't do, would you?" The teacher says "Of course I wouldn't." The kid says, "Good, because I didn't do my homework!" (He's changing the meaning of "something I didn't do" from "something wrong that was not done by me" to "something I should have done and failed to.") This joke also came up in the third ''Literature/CaptainUnderpants'' book.

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* This joke: A kid asks his teacher "You wouldn't punish me for something I didn't do, would you?" The teacher says "Of course I wouldn't." The kid says, "Good, because I didn't do my homework!" (He's changing the meaning of "something I didn't do" from "something wrong that was not done by me" to "something I should have done and failed to.") This joke also came up ")
* A cat has three tails. No cat has two tails, and one cat has one more tail than no cat; therefore, one cat has three tails.
* Two versions of {{Fauxtivational Poster}}s
in the third ''Literature/CaptainUnderpants'' book.places of education:
** One version:
-->Knowledge is power.\\
Power corrupts.\\
Study hard. [[EvilIsCool It makes you evil]].
** Alternatively:
-->Knowledge is power.\\
Power corrupts.\\
Corruption is a crime.\\
Crime never pays.\\
Study hard. It makes you broke.
* Another commonly cited example:
-->All dogs have four legs.\\
My cat has four legs.\\
Therefore, my cat is a dog.



* A cat has three tails. No cat has two tails, and one cat has one more tail than no cat; therefore, one cat has three tails.
* Two versions of {{Fauxtivational Poster}}s in places of education:
** One version:
-->Knowledge is power.\\
Power corrupts.\\
Study hard. [[EvilIsCool It makes you evil]].
** Alternatively:
-->Knowledge is power.\\
Power corrupts.\\
Corruption is a crime.\\
Crime never pays.\\
Study hard. It makes you broke.
* Another commonly cited example:
-->All dogs have four legs.\\
My cat has four legs.\\
Therefore, my cat is a dog.
9th Feb '17 9:10:20 AM CheeseDogX
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* We've all heard the story about the parent who buys {{Hentai}} for their 10-year-old, only to return it in a rage to the store where they bought it, because in spite of the explicit picture on the front, and the ratings and warnings all over the box, reasoning that, [[AnimationAgeGhetto "It's a cartoon, and cartoons are for kids, so it must be kid-friendly!"]]

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* We've all heard Then there's the story about the parent who buys {{Hentai}} for their 10-year-old, only to return it in a rage to the store where they bought it, because in spite of the explicit picture on the front, and the ratings and warnings all over the box, reasoning that, [[AnimationAgeGhetto "It's a cartoon, and cartoons are for kids, so it must be kid-friendly!"]]
30th Dec '16 12:49:15 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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:: The four terms used in the fallacy here are
# "It is not in a glass case"
# "I can (in the sense of "am physically able to") touch it",
# "I can (in the sense of "am permitted to") touch it" and
# "I will touch it".
::If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).

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:: The :The four terms used in the fallacy here are
# ## "It is not in a glass case"
# ## "I can (in the sense of "am physically able to") touch it",
# ## "I can (in the sense of "am permitted to") touch it" and
# ## "I will touch it".
::If :: :If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).


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* Another commonly cited example:
-->All dogs have four legs.\\
My cat has four legs.\\
Therefore, my cat is a dog.
11th Oct '16 3:00:37 AM Aquila89
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[[folder:Film]]
* In the Creator/WoodyAllen film ''Film/LoveAndDeath'', Allen's character Boris gives this monologue: "What would Socrates say? All those Greeks were homosexuals. Boy, they must have had some wild parties. I bet they all took a house together in Crete for the summer. A: Socrates is a man. B: All men are mortal. C: All men are Socrates. That means all men are homosexuals."
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4th Sep '16 8:51:15 AM MasterofGalaxies4628
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* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven! Which is inverted in the commercials for [=DirecTV=] that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.

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* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven! Which is inverted in the [=DirecTV's=] Advertising/GetRidOfCable commercials for [=DirecTV=] that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.
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