History Main / FourTermsFallacy

9th Feb '17 9:10:20 AM CheeseDogX
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* We've all heard the story about the parent who buys {{Hentai}} for their 10-year-old, only to return it in a rage to the store where they bought it, because in spite of the explicit picture on the front, and the ratings and warnings all over the box, reasoning that, [[AnimationAgeGhetto "It's a cartoon, and cartoons are for kids, so it must be kid-friendly!"]]

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* We've all heard Then there's the story about the parent who buys {{Hentai}} for their 10-year-old, only to return it in a rage to the store where they bought it, because in spite of the explicit picture on the front, and the ratings and warnings all over the box, reasoning that, [[AnimationAgeGhetto "It's a cartoon, and cartoons are for kids, so it must be kid-friendly!"]]
30th Dec '16 12:49:15 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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:: The four terms used in the fallacy here are
# "It is not in a glass case"
# "I can (in the sense of "am physically able to") touch it",
# "I can (in the sense of "am permitted to") touch it" and
# "I will touch it".
::If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).

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:: The :The four terms used in the fallacy here are
# ## "It is not in a glass case"
# ## "I can (in the sense of "am physically able to") touch it",
# ## "I can (in the sense of "am permitted to") touch it" and
# ## "I will touch it".
::If :: :If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).


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* Another commonly cited example:
-->All dogs have four legs.\\
My cat has four legs.\\
Therefore, my cat is a dog.
11th Oct '16 3:00:37 AM Aquila89
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* In the Creator/WoodyAllen film ''Film/LoveAndDeath'', Allen's character Boris gives this monologue: "What would Socrates say? All those Greeks were homosexuals. Boy, they must have had some wild parties. I bet they all took a house together in Crete for the summer. A: Socrates is a man. B: All men are mortal. C: All men are Socrates. That means all men are homosexuals."
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4th Sep '16 8:51:15 AM MasterofGalaxies4628
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* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven! Which is inverted in the commercials for [=DirecTV=] that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.

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* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven! Which is inverted in the [=DirecTV's=] Advertising/GetRidOfCable commercials for [=DirecTV=] that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.
10th Jun '16 11:51:24 AM KingLyger
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* Comedian Creator/RichardJeni talks about when he learned about the syllogism in college in his ''Crazy from the Heat'' stand-up routine.

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* Comedian Creator/RichardJeni talks about when he learned about the syllogism in college in his ''Crazy from the Heat'' stand-up routine. God is love. Love is blind. Therefore, Music/RayCharles is God. Also, men are going bald, and they're from planet Earth. Women are not losing hair. Therefore, women are not from Earth.
15th Apr '16 10:59:10 AM OddHack
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** Related is "There is nothing like a good cup of coffee... and this is nothing like a good cup of coffee."
10th Apr '16 10:52:52 AM Josef5678
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[[folder:Western Animation]]
* The [[OmnicidalManiac Heys]] in ''WesternAnimation/TheTick'' worship Nothing, as outlined in translation from their PokemonSpeak: "Nothing lasts forever. Nothing is worth fighting for."
** Not really a Four Terms Fallacy, just a normal syllogism with an implicit proposition of "Only things that last forever are worth fighting for" and it really hinges on the acceptance of that proposition. Note that the two times "nothing" appears it means the same thing.
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10th Apr '16 10:50:20 AM Josef5678
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* Comedian RichardJeni talks about when he learned about the syllogism in college, giving a shortened version of the page quote as an example (Music/RayCharles instead of Music/StevieWonder), in his ''Crazy from the Heat'' stand-up routine.

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* Comedian RichardJeni Creator/RichardJeni talks about when he learned about the syllogism in college, giving a shortened version of the page quote as an example (Music/RayCharles instead of Music/StevieWonder), college in his ''Crazy from the Heat'' stand-up routine.



* The Creator/StephenColbert quote at the top of the page is an example of such a fallacy, with a dash of ConverseError for flavor.

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* The Creator/StephenColbert quote at the top of the page From ''Series/TheColbertReport'':
-->''"I live by syllogisms: God
is an example of such a fallacy, with a dash of ConverseError love. Love is blind. Music/StevieWonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God. I don't know what I'd believe in if it wasn't for flavor.that."''
10th Apr '16 10:46:56 AM Josef5678
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* There's an old joke revolving around the word ''nothing'', similar to the example above, where a bar patron turns down a beer from the bartender because "nothing is better than a cold drink".

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* There's an old joke revolving around the word ''nothing'', similar to the example above, where a bar patron turns down a beer from the bartender because "nothing is better than a cold drink".



* We've all heard the story about the parent who buys a {{Hentai}} for their 10-year-old, only to return it in a rage to the store where they bought it, because in spite of the explicit picture on the front, and the ratings and warnings all over the box, reasoning that, [[AnimationAgeGhetto "It's a cartoon, and cartoons are for kids, so it must be kid-friendly!"]]

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* We've all heard the story about the parent who buys a {{Hentai}} for their 10-year-old, only to return it in a rage to the store where they bought it, because in spite of the explicit picture on the front, and the ratings and warnings all over the box, reasoning that, [[AnimationAgeGhetto "It's a cartoon, and cartoons are for kids, so it must be kid-friendly!"]]



* A version commonly found on {{Fauxtivational Poster}}s in places of education:

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* A version commonly found on Two versions of {{Fauxtivational Poster}}s in places of education:education:
** One version:



* The above FauxtivationalPoster also has a well-known counterargument taking the same logic further:

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* The above FauxtivationalPoster also has a well-known counterargument taking the same logic further:** Alternatively:
24th Mar '16 2:44:44 PM margdean56
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* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven! Which is inverted in the commercials for DirecTV that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.

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* An old joke: When you drink, you get drunk. When you get drunk, you go to sleep. When you go to sleep, you commit no sin. When you commit no sin, you go to {{Heaven}}. So, let's all get drunk and go to Heaven! Which is inverted in the commercials for DirecTV [=DirecTV=] that begin with [[CableSatelliteMudslinging some frustration pertaining to cable]], and follows up with an increasingly bizarre set of DisasterDominoes.
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