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** ''Common Attributes'': Indecisive and [[ShapedLikeItself conflicted]], changeable, doesn't have or voice strong opinions, empathy, good morality, prioritizes peace and cohesion among the group, appeasement, self-doubt, lack of confidence, fear, need for approval, dependent, blind trust of others (or at least open-minded).
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''Most Common [[FreudianTrio Freudian Mindset]]'': a [[MysteriousWatcher spectating]] Ego. (Rarely an Id or Superego in most cases)
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** ''Most Common [[FreudianTrio Freudian Mindset]]'': a [[MysteriousWatcher spectating]] Ego. (Rarely an Id or Superego in most cases)
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** ''Most Common [[FreudianTrio Freudian Mindset]]'': a [[EnigmaticMinion detached]] Ego or a[[FriendlyScheming scheming]] Superego.
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** ''Most Common [[FreudianTrio Freudian Mindset]]'': a [[EnigmaticMinion detached]] Ego or a[[FriendlyScheming a [[FriendlyScheming scheming]] Superego.
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** ''Most Common [[FreudianTrio Freudian Mindset]]'': a [[MysteriousWatcher spectating]] Ego. (Rarely an Id [[EnigmaticMinion detached]] Ego or Superego in most cases)
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** ''Most Common [[FreudianTrio Freudian Mindset]]'': a [[TheDitz gullible]] Id or a [[WideEyedIdealist kind-hearted]] Ego.
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** ''Most Common [[FreudianTrio Freudian Mindset]]'': a [[TheDitz gullible]] Id or a [[WideEyedIdealist kind-hearted]] Ego.
Ego. (Sometimes a Superego, in [[SugarBowl lighter characterizations]])
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** ''Common Attributes'': Indecisive and [[ShapedLikeItself conflicted]], changeable, doesn't have or voice strong opinions, empathy, good morality, prioritizes peace and cohesion among the group, appeasement, self-doubt, lack of confidence, fear, need for approval, dependent, blind trust of others.
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** ''Common Characterizations'': [[RedOniBlueOni Blue Oni]], TeamPet, ReluctantWarrior, SadClown, HurtingHero, TheIngenue, TheEeyore, TheDitherer, ClassicalAntiHero, TheUnfettered
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** ''Common Characterizations'': [[RedOniBlueOni Blue Oni]], TeamPet, ReluctantWarrior, SadClown, HurtingHero, TheIngenue, TheEeyore, TheDitherer, ClassicalAntiHero, TheUnfetteredTheUnfettered (similarly to the Apathetic)
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** ''Common Characterizations'': [[RedOniBlueOni Blue Oni]], TeamPet, ReluctantWarrior, SadClown, HurtingHero, TheIngenue, TheEeyore, TheDitherer, ClassicalAntiHero
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** ''Common Characterizations'': [[RedOniBlueOni Blue Oni]], TeamPet, ReluctantWarrior, SadClown, HurtingHero, TheIngenue, TheEeyore, TheDitherer, ClassicalAntiHeroClassicalAntiHero, TheUnfettered
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* Music/{{Gorillaz}}: Murdoc is the Cynic, Noodle is the Optimist, 2D is the Realist and Russel is the Apathetic.
* Music/TheKinks: Ray Davies as the Cynic, Dave Davies as the Optimist, Pete Quaife as the Realist and Mick Avory as the Apathetic.
* Music/TheRamones: Johnny was the Cynic, Dee Dee was the Optimist, Joey was the Apathetic and Marky was the Realist.
* Music/TheKinks: Ray Davies as the Cynic, Dave Davies as the Optimist, Pete Quaife as the Realist and Mick Avory as the Apathetic.
* Music/TheRamones: Johnny was the Cynic, Dee Dee was the Optimist, Joey was the Apathetic and Marky was the Realist.
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* Music/{{Queen}}: Music/FreddieMercury as the Cynic, Roger Taylor as the Optimist, Music/BrianMay as the Realist and John Deacon as the Apathetic.
* Music/TheWho: Roger Daltrey as the Optimist, Pete Townsend as the Cynic, John Entwistle as the Realist and Keith Moon as the Apathetic.
* Music/TheWho: Roger Daltrey as the Optimist, Pete Townsend as the Cynic, John Entwistle as the Realist and Keith Moon as the Apathetic.
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* The ''Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'': Raph is Cynical (fatalist, prefers fighting to talking), Mikey is the Optimist (assumes the best in people, wants to have fun above all), Leo is the Realist (as a leader, needs to create plans and mediate conflicts), and Donnie is Apathetic (frequently apart to research and develop his gadgets).
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** ''Common Characterizations'': Either [[RedOniBlueOni Oni type]], pure {{Good Cop|Bad Cop}}, TheMcCoy, ThePollyanna, TheFettered, IdealHero, NiceGuy, [[GenkiGirl Genki Boy/Girl]], TheDeterminator, MessianicArchetype, PluckyGirl
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** ''Common Characterizations'': Either [[RedOniBlueOni Oni type]], pure {{Good Cop|Bad Cop}}, TheMcCoy, ThePollyanna, TheFettered, IdealHero, NiceGuy, [[GenkiGirl Genki Boy/Girl]], Girl]]/[[{{Keet}} Boy]], TheDeterminator, MessianicArchetype, PluckyGirl
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** ''Most Common [[FourTemperamentEnsemble Temperaments]]'': in the skepticism/caution cases Melancholic; otherwise Choleric. [[note]]Since the defiance of a melancholic Cynic is generally limited to civil disobedience of an accepted norm s/he knows to be logically/morally unsound and corrupt at its core; a melancholic cynic is otherwise rather unusual.[[/note]]
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** ''Most Common [[FourTemperamentEnsemble Temperaments]]'': in the skepticism/caution cases Melancholic; otherwise Choleric. [[note]]Since the defiance of a melancholic Cynic is generally limited to civil disobedience of an accepted norm s/he knows to be logically/morally unsound and corrupt at its core; a melancholic cynic is otherwise rather unusual.unusual, as the ones who are morally ambiguous are usually choleric.[[/note]]
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** ''Most Common [[FourTemperamentEnsemble Temperament]]'': Mostly eclectic, reflecting their lack of alignment with a particular temperament.
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** ''Most Common [[FourTemperamentEnsemble Temperament]]'': Mostly eclectic, reflecting their lack of alignment with a particular temperament. If aligned with a temperament, easily melancholic or phlegmatic.
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** ''Most Common [[FourTemperamentEnsemble Temperament]]'': Usually Sanguine, though in moralistic, [[TheIdealist idealistic]] cases Phlegmatic.
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** ''Most Common [[FourTemperamentEnsemble Temperaments]]'': Phlegmatic, for [[LazyBum general laziness]], or Choleric for lack of regard for others' affairs
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** ''Most Common [[FourTemperamentEnsemble Temperaments]]'': Phlegmatic, for [[LazyBum general laziness]], or Choleric [[LackOfEmpathy for lack of regard for others' affairsaffairs]].
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Six Student Clique is being cut.
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It is possible to expand the group beyond four or five members using this trope as a template and fitting additional characters into each slot, portraying different parts of the role, four is simply the minimum to qualify for this trope. Beyond that the number of members is unimportant so long as the group involves not a significant amount of Apathetic members, a case that would pretty much defeat the purpose of the trope, which is group conflict. If only a small part of the group (such as just the leader and his lancer) is ever involved in the conflict then it's not this trope, and probably a more job or role-oriented ensemble trope, such as FiveManBand, SixStudentClique or MagnificentSeven. When the group uses the full five philosophy roles, it is common for them to form a ThreePlusTwo group.
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It is possible to expand the group beyond four or five members using this trope as a template and fitting additional characters into each slot, portraying different parts of the role, four is simply the minimum to qualify for this trope. Beyond that the number of members is unimportant so long as the group involves not a significant amount of Apathetic members, a case that would pretty much defeat the purpose of the trope, which is group conflict. If only a small part of the group (such as just the leader and his lancer) is ever involved in the conflict then it's not this trope, and probably a more job or role-oriented ensemble trope, such as FiveManBand, SixStudentClique FiveManBand or MagnificentSeven. When the group uses the full five philosophy roles, it is common for them to form a ThreePlusTwo group.
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** ''Most Common [[PersonalityBloodTypes Blood Type]] Association:'' Type AB or Type AB
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** ''Most Common [[PersonalityBloodTypes Blood Type]] Association:'' Type AB or Type ABB
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** ''Most Common [[PersonalityBloodTypes Blood Type]] Association:'' Type O or Type A
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** ''Most Common [[PersonalityBloodTypes Blood Type]] Association:'' Type O A or Type AO
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* Music/TheDoors: Jim Morrison was the Apathetic, Ray Manzarek was the Realist, John Densmore is the Cynic and Robby Kreiger is the Optimist.
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* Radio/CabinPressure: Douglas as the Cynic, Arthur as the Optimist, Carolyn as the Realist, Martin as the Conflicted. (In later episodes, complemented by Herc as the Apathetic.)
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* Radio/CabinPressure: ''Radio/CabinPressure'': Douglas as the Cynic, Arthur as the Optimist, Carolyn as the Realist, Martin as the Conflicted. (In later episodes, complemented by Herc as the Apathetic.)
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* Music/TheBeatles: Music/JohnLennon as the Apathetic, Music/PaulMcCartney as the Optimist, Music/GeorgeHarrison as the Cynic, and Music/RingoStarr as the Realist.
* Music/PanicAtTheDisco: Ryan Ross as the Cynic, Brendon Urie as the Optimist, Jon Walker as the Realist, and Spencer Smith as the Apathetic.
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* Music/TheBeatles: Music/JohnLennon as the Apathetic, Music/PaulMcCartney as the Optimist, Music/GeorgeHarrison as the Cynic, and Music/RingoStarr as the Realist.
* Music/PanicAtTheDisco: Ryan Ross as the Cynic, Brendon Urie as the Optimist, Jon Walker as the Realist, and Spencer Smith as the Apathetic.
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* Music/TheBeatles: Music/JohnLennon as the Apathetic, Music/PaulMcCartney as the Optimist, Music/GeorgeHarrison as the Cynic, and Music/RingoStarr as the Realist.
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* Music/TheBeatles: Music/JohnLennon as the Apathetic, Music/PaulMcCartney as the Optimist, Music/GeorgeHarrison as the Cynic, and Music/RingoStarr as the Realist.
* Music/PanicAtTheDisco: Ryan Ross as the Cynic, Brendon Urie as the Optimist, Jon Walker as the Realist, and Spencer Smith as the Apathetic.
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* Radio/CabinPressure: Douglas as the Cynic, Arthur as the Optimist, Carolyn as the Realist, Martin as the Conflicted. (In later episodes, complemented by Herc as the Apathetic.)
* Music/TheBeatles: Music/JohnLennon as the Apathetic, Music/PaulMcCartney as the Optimist, Music/GeorgeHarrison as the Cynic, and Music/RingoStarr as the Realist.
* Music/PanicAtTheDisco: Ryan Ross as the Cynic, Brendon Urie as the Optimist, Jon Walker as the Realist, and Spencer Smith as the Apathetic.
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* Radio/CabinPressure: Douglas as the Cynic, Arthur as the Optimist, Carolyn as the Realist, Martin as the Conflicted. (In later episodes, complemented by Herc as the Apathetic.)
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* In Fanfic/SkyBladeAcademy the four main characters and TrueCompanions have this mechanic, with KnightInSourArmour Atsuya as the Cynic, GenkiGuy Kaiba as the Optimist, TheKirk Kyoko as the Realist, and FishOutOfWater Iki as the Apathetic. The Conflicted could be all of them.
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* In Fanfic/SkyBladeAcademy the four main characters and TrueCompanions have this mechanic, with KnightInSourArmour KnightInSourArmor Atsuya as the Cynic, GenkiGuy Kaiba as the Optimist, TheKirk Kyoko as the Realist, and FishOutOfWater Iki as the Apathetic. The Conflicted could be all of them.
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** ''Common Characterizations'': A defiant {{Red Oni|Blue Oni}}, pure [[GoodCopBadCop Bad Cop]], TheCynic ([[CaptainObvious duh!]]), TheSpock, AntiHero, KnightInSourArmor, TheSnarkKnight, GrumpyBear, TheRival, TheUnfettered, OnlySaneMan, ByronicHero
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** ''Common Characterizations'': A defiant {{Red Oni|Blue Oni}}, pure [[GoodCopBadCop Bad Cop]], TheCynic ([[CaptainObvious duh!]]), TheCynic, TheSpock, AntiHero, KnightInSourArmor, TheSnarkKnight, GrumpyBear, TheRival, TheUnfettered, OnlySaneMan, ByronicHero
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** ''Common Attributes'': Indecisive and [[ShapedLikeItself conflicted]] ([[CaptainObvious duh!]]), conflicted]], changeable, doesn't have or voice strong opinions, empathy, good morality, prioritizes peace and cohesion among the group, appeasement, self-doubt, lack of confidence, fear, need for approval, dependent, blind trust of others.
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* ''Franchise/{{Tintin}}'': Tintin (Optimist), Captain Haddock (Cynic), Professor Calculus (Realist), and Thomson and Thompson (Apathetic).
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* ''Franchise/{{Tintin}}'': ''Franchise/{{Tintin}}'':
** Tintin(Optimist), is the Optimist, who always [[JumpedAtTheCall jumps into adventure]] and assumes the best in people.
** Captain Haddock(Cynic), is the Cynic, being Tintin's {{Foil}} as a SourSupporter who does not forgive others easily.
** Professor Calculus(Realist), is the Realist, who is often unaware of what goes on around him, but his intelligence and inventing skills drive the plot of several albums.
** Thomson and Thompson(Apathetic).are the Apathetic, as they are well-meaning detectives, but are usually not directly involved in the plot, and tend to cause more problems than they solve.
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** Thomson and Thompson
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** ''Most Common Perspective'': BlackAndWhiteMorality, WhiteAndGreyMorality, WhiteAndWhiteMorality
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** ''Most Common Perspective'': BlackAndWhiteMorality, WhiteAndGreyMorality, WhiteAndWhiteMoralityGoodVersusGood
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* In ''Story/AesirCrossWars'', we have Azazel (The Cynic, with mild Realist tendencies), Freya (The Optimist), Forseti (The Realist), Uriel (The Apathetic), and Azrael (The Conflicted, temporarily Cynical, later a low-key Optimist).
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* In ''Story/AesirCrossWars'', ''Literature/AesirCrossWars'', we have Azazel (The Cynic, with mild Realist tendencies), Freya (The Optimist), Forseti (The Realist), Uriel (The Apathetic), and Azrael (The Conflicted, temporarily Cynical, later a low-key Optimist).
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