History Main / DeliberateValuesDissonance

20th Aug '16 10:49:55 AM Rebu
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** In another episode, the crew finds Zefram Cochrane on a planetoid being cared for by an energy being, which he assumes to be asexual. When it is revealed to be female and in love with him he is horrified, much to the bafflement of the 23rd century crewmembers. Spock even calls his reaction a "provincial attitude".

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** In another episode, the crew finds Zefram Cochrane on a planetoid being cared for by an energy being, which he assumes to be asexual. When it is revealed to be female and in love with him he is horrified, much to the bafflement of the 23rd century crewmembers. Spock even calls his reaction a "provincial attitude". Specifically, it's the ''alien'' part that bothered him, not the 'female' part.
17th Aug '16 6:36:43 PM eowynjedi
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* ''Series/WolfHall'' shows just how fragile a woman's life was in the 1500s. Katherine of Aragon is discarded for being unable to provide a male heir and it's taken as read that her daughter Mary can't become regent not because of her ill constitution but her gender. Anne Boleyn's position depends solely on whether or not ''she'' can give birth to a healthy boy and when she doesn't, Henry disposes of her in [[OffWithHisHead even more brutal fashion]]. Her father and uncle don't care because her only value was as influence with the king; said uncle also wishes he could dispose of his wife because she's old and he doesn't want to have sex with her anymore (or rather, she's the same age as him). Jane Seymour's brothers discuss her as a commodity to be traded right to her face. For all this, both of Henry's daughters would become England's first Queens Regnant, and Elizabeth's long reign was so iconic that her name is now used to describe the era.
15th Aug '16 10:26:35 PM Argon2
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* The ''Manga/{{Mouse}}'' character Mei was raised outside of normal society to be a SexSlave. This affected her [[DarkAndTroubledPast in many ways]], the strangest of which is that she has no problem with talking very candidly to people about their fetishes.
-->'''Sorata:''' Don't you think you provoked Yayoi a little too much?\\
'''Mei:''' Why?



* In ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'', the eastern Rosharans consider dark-eyed people to be inherently inferior to light-eyed ones, condemn men reading, believe female left hand to need hiding from public and enforce strict division between sexes. Not only are professions and living spaces segregated into male and female ones, but even cuisine is different for men and women - male food should be spicy, while female must be sweet.

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* In ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'', the eastern Rosharans consider dark-eyed people to be inherently inferior to light-eyed ones, condemn men reading, believe female that females' left hand to need hiding from hands should be concealed in public and enforce strict division between sexes. Not only are professions and living spaces segregated into male and female ones, but even cuisine is different for men and women - male food should be spicy, while female must be sweet.
14th Aug '16 8:32:30 AM Psyclone
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* The ''Literature/CiaphasCain'' series is a much LighterAndSofter depiction of ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' than other media, but still presents The Imperium as, well, TheEmpire. In ''For the Emperor'', Cain himself is repeatedly alienated and disturbed by the Tau and their human sympathizers, making comments about how he cannot see "xenos" as people, being horrified to hear a separatist tell him to go back to "[his] Emperor", and being cheerful of the prospect of the separatists getting pummeled by the loyalists. In the same book, Inquisitor Vail cheerfully reminisces of one of her favorite childhood songs... which is a disturbingly cheerful ditty about heretics being crushed under the tracks of a [[TankGoodness Land Raider]]. In ''Caves of Ice'', she likewise quips fondly of her favorite children's book, which depicts people being gruesomely burned alive for being heretics (i.e. humans who don't follow the Imperium). ''Cain's Last Stand'' casually mentions vans with convicts heading to a military orphanage "for live ammo exercises".

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* The ''Literature/CiaphasCain'' series is a much LighterAndSofter depiction of ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' than other media, but still presents The Imperium as, well, TheEmpire. In ''For the Emperor'', Cain himself is repeatedly alienated and disturbed by the Tau and their human sympathizers, making comments about how he cannot see "xenos" as people, being horrified to hear a separatist tell him to go back to "[his] Emperor", and being cheerful of the prospect of the separatists getting pummeled by the loyalists. Cain also mentions "[organizing] the occasional firing squad" in the same breath as routine clerical work while describing his job at Brigade Headquarters. In the same book, Inquisitor Vail cheerfully reminisces of one of her favorite childhood songs... which is a disturbingly cheerful ditty about heretics being crushed under the tracks of a [[TankGoodness Land Raider]]. In ''Caves of Ice'', she likewise quips fondly of her favorite children's book, which depicts people being gruesomely burned alive for being heretics (i.e. humans who don't follow the Imperium). ''Cain's Last Stand'' casually mentions vans with convicts heading to a military orphanage "for live ammo exercises".
11th Aug '16 9:23:10 PM gunslingerofgilead
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** In a more positive note, Columbia doesn't have a problem with women in positions of power mostly because the mechanism that allows the city to stay afloat was created by a woman. There's also the possibility that Comstock deliberately tried to get rid of sexism [[spoiler:so when Elizabeth took over no one would question her leadership]].

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** In a more positive note, Columbia doesn't have a problem with women in positions of power or even the military mostly because the mechanism that allows the city to stay afloat was created by a woman. There's also the possibility that Comstock deliberately tried to get rid of sexism [[spoiler:so when Elizabeth took over no one would question her leadership]].
9th Aug '16 12:04:08 PM StFan
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-->'''Robo:''' 'Scuze me.
-->'''Lovecraft:''' ''Ah!'' Look, it's attempting to ''communicate''. No doubt the savage thing knows language as a house pet knows its reflection in the mirror. The sense is taken in, but the process, the ''meaning'', is forever lost.
-->'''Robo:''' Yer razzin' me.
-->'''Lovecraft:''' See how vainly it cobbles together a string of sounds not unlike words? Take. Us. To. [[UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla Magic. Thunder. Man.]]

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-->'''Robo:''' 'Scuze me.
-->'''Lovecraft:'''
me.\\
'''Lovecraft:'''
''Ah!'' Look, it's attempting to ''communicate''. No doubt the savage thing knows language as a house pet knows its reflection in the mirror. The sense is taken in, but the process, the ''meaning'', is forever lost.
-->'''Robo:'''
lost.\\
'''Robo:'''
Yer razzin' me.
-->'''Lovecraft:'''
me.\\
'''Lovecraft:'''
See how vainly it cobbles together a string of sounds not unlike words? Take. Us. To. [[UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla Magic. Thunder. Man.]]



** This portrayal of Lovecraft also shows up in the ComicBook/{{Planetary}}/[[ComicBook/TheAuthority Authority]] crossover:
-->'''Lovecraft''': [[CrossesTheLineTwice Mr. Snow, I believe these to be Negro eggs.]]

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** * This portrayal of Lovecraft also shows up in the ComicBook/{{Planetary}}/[[ComicBook/TheAuthority Authority]] ''ComicBook/{{Planetary}}''/''[[ComicBook/TheAuthority Authority]]'' crossover:
-->'''Lovecraft''': -->'''Lovecraft:''' [[CrossesTheLineTwice Mr. Snow, I believe these to be Negro eggs.]]



* ''ComicBook/TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' takes some time to demonstrate the many cultural differences that a race of biomechanical beings may have:

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* ''ComicBook/TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' takes some time to demonstrate the many cultural differences that a race of biomechanical beings may have:



* In ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'', Spider-Man Noir comes off as a bit sexist and racist to his fellow Spiders. He's from a world where it was essentially the 1930s.

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* In ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'', Spider-Man Noir comes off as a bit sexist and racist to his fellow Spiders. He's from a world where it was is essentially the 1930s.



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* ''ComicStrip/NonSequitur'':
** A customer at Flo's diner is talking about all the wonderful things about TheFifties and how America going back to that time and those values would be better for everyone, and Flo replies that she agrees and will turn the diner retro, "starting with this vintage sign..." She writes something down and shows it to him, but with her back to the "camera," all we see is his horrified reaction. In the next panel, we see what the sign says: "WHITES ONLY." The man concedes, "Well, maybe not better for ''everyone.''"
** Danae visits an alternate universe in which every person is given one wish. It's revealed that Clarence Thomas (real life Associate Justice of the Supreme Court) wished for the United States Constitution to be interpreted as the Founding Fathers originally intended, and it is implied that he is now a servant/slave because of it.
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* ''FanFic/RacerAndTheGeek'' brings this up frequently when [[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/81159/racer-and-the-geek/3/sunset mercenaries get involved.]] Because pony society is so unconfrontational and violence is extremely uncommon, [[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/81159/1/racer-and-the-geek/predawn firearms]] and those associated with them are almost all universally hated.
* ''FanFic/{{Embers}}'' shows many cultural clashes between the Earth Kingdom, Water Tribes, Fire Nation, and Air Nomads. For one example the peaceful Air Nomads were so good and kind due to being brainwashed, and would exile those who disagreed from the temples. Chapter 28 offers this gem:
-->'''Katara''': Good people had good children. And evil people, well they didn't have them anymore, but that was what ice floes were for.\\
'''Zuko''': You push your enemies off ice floes when nobody's looking. We kill them in the arena where everyone can see. Whose sick?\\
'''Katara''': Everybody knows those you don't name have to die!\\
'''Zuko''': If someone gets killed in an Agni Kai? Believe me, everyone knows why they had it coming.
* ''{{Fanfic/Hivefled}}'': To the readers, the ParentalIncest is disturbing, but trolls don't have any concept of incest due to their BizarreAlienReproduction meaning that most trolls never meet their children. The trolls are more upset by the idea of moirails reproducing together, as they're supposed to be PlatonicLifePartners. Similarly, blood sacrifices are usually pretty normal in the cult of mirthful messiahs- the Grand Highblood is just [[EvenEvilHasStandards breaking the rules]] by keeping his victims' [[OurGhostsAreDifferent ghosts]]. Later on, when the trolls meet the humans, values clash. The trolls are shocked that humans sleep on beds (a.k.a. "concupiscent couches", used only for sex by trolls), bury their dead (trolls think death is something to be faced, not hidden), have separate words for consensual sex and rape (among trolls rape is disapproved of but not actually illegal, victims are given little sympathy, and the word for it is actually the word for the consensual variety pronounced more patronisingly), and don't eat babies (troll grubs are born in such vast numbers that they'd strip the planet bare if significant numbers weren't eaten).

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* ''FanFic/RacerAndTheGeek'' ''Fanfic/RacerAndTheGeek'' brings this up frequently when [[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/81159/racer-and-the-geek/3/sunset mercenaries get involved.]] Because pony society is so unconfrontational and violence is extremely uncommon, [[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/81159/1/racer-and-the-geek/predawn firearms]] and those associated with them are almost all universally hated.
* ''FanFic/{{Embers}}'' ''Fanfic/{{Embers}}'' shows many cultural clashes between the Earth Kingdom, Water Tribes, Fire Nation, and Air Nomads. For one example the peaceful Air Nomads were so good and kind due to being brainwashed, and would exile those who disagreed from the temples. Chapter 28 offers this gem:
-->'''Katara''': -->'''Katara:''' Good people had good children. And evil people, well they didn't have them anymore, but that was what ice floes were for.\\
'''Zuko''': '''Zuko:''' You push your enemies off ice floes when nobody's looking. We kill them in the arena where everyone can see. Whose Who's sick?\\
'''Katara''': '''Katara:''' Everybody knows those you don't name have to die!\\
'''Zuko''': '''Zuko:''' If someone gets killed in an Agni Kai? Believe me, everyone knows why they had it coming.
* ''{{Fanfic/Hivefled}}'': ''Fanfic/{{Hivefled}}'': To the readers, the ParentalIncest is disturbing, but trolls don't have any concept of incest due to their BizarreAlienReproduction meaning that most trolls never meet their children. The trolls are more upset by the idea of moirails reproducing together, as they're supposed to be PlatonicLifePartners. Similarly, blood sacrifices are usually pretty normal in the cult of mirthful messiahs- messiahs -- the Grand Highblood is just [[EvenEvilHasStandards breaking the rules]] by keeping his victims' [[OurGhostsAreDifferent ghosts]]. Later on, when the trolls meet the humans, values clash. The trolls are shocked that humans sleep on beds (a.k.a. "concupiscent couches", used only for sex by trolls), bury their dead (trolls think death is something to be faced, not hidden), have separate words for consensual sex and rape (among trolls rape is disapproved of but not actually illegal, victims are given little sympathy, and the word for it is actually the word for the consensual variety pronounced more patronisingly), and don't eat babies (troll grubs are born in such vast numbers that they'd strip the planet bare if significant numbers weren't eaten).



* ''FanFic/{{Anthropology}}'': Lyra is obsessed with humanity, and adopts some of their habits, like her sitting and wearing clothes, but most ponies are shown to be confused by these things. Later on in the story, she learns of humanity's history of violence and conflict, and their consumption of meat [[spoiler: the latter she found out about by having ''eaten a Big Mac'', ]] and while horrified, she still admires their history of innovation. [[spoiler: Lyra's human friend Audrey is shocked to learn that Lyra has been on her own since she was 12, while she is still a minor at 16, and is shocked by some of her habits like eating plants. Most of her human friends are pretty nonchalant about human conflict. This trope abounds as Lyra struggles to adapt to the human world.]]
* In ''FanFic/WhatHathJoinedTogether'' most [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic ponies]] who espouse "[[FantasticCasteSystem the Order]]" due so to justify their {{jerkass}} behavior, but [[SkilledButNaive Twilight Sparkle's]] support comes due to her sheltered upbringing and lack of experience where ponies truly suffer from it. When she encounters [[LoveMartyr somepony willing to die to marry someone outside his social class]], it makes her more sympathetic as [[EvilCannotComprehendGood she struggles to understand why someone would defy the Order]] [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove for something so unacceptable]].
* This is at the core of ''FanFic/JusPrimaeNoctis''. Saito goes into culture shock a few times at what [[LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero Halgenkians]] consider acceptable or unacceptable behavior, and the title speaks for itself.

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* ''FanFic/{{Anthropology}}'': ''Fanfic/{{Anthropology}}'': Lyra is obsessed with humanity, and adopts some of their habits, like her sitting and wearing clothes, but most ponies are shown to be confused by these things. Later on in the story, she learns of humanity's history of violence and conflict, and their consumption of meat [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:(the latter she found out about by having ''eaten a Big Mac'', ]] Mac''),]] and while horrified, she still admires their history of innovation. [[spoiler: Lyra's [[spoiler:Lyra's human friend Audrey is shocked to learn that Lyra has been on her own since she was 12, while she is still a minor at 16, and is shocked by some of her habits like eating plants. Most of her human friends are pretty nonchalant about human conflict. This trope abounds as Lyra struggles to adapt to the human world.]]
* In ''FanFic/WhatHathJoinedTogether'' ''Fanfic/WhatHathJoinedTogether'', most [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic ponies]] who espouse "[[FantasticCasteSystem the Order]]" due so to justify their {{jerkass}} behavior, but [[SkilledButNaive Twilight Sparkle's]] support comes due to her sheltered upbringing and lack of experience where ponies truly suffer from it. When she encounters [[LoveMartyr somepony willing to die to marry someone outside his social class]], it makes her more sympathetic as [[EvilCannotComprehendGood she struggles to understand why someone would defy the Order]] [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove for something so unacceptable]].
* This is at the core of ''FanFic/JusPrimaeNoctis''.''Fanfic/JusPrimaeNoctis''. Saito goes into culture shock a few times at what [[LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero Halgenkians]] consider acceptable or unacceptable behavior, and the title speaks for itself.



* ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'':
** In the Angel Federation the Angels, Jews, and Muslims are all futuristic spacefaring nations - with the moral values of the early Catholic Church, Old Testament-era Mesopotamia, and eighth-century Arabia respectively. This trope also makes them the "grey" of the story's BlackAndGreyMorality; this trope leads to them casually committing horrible acts like genocide, racism, LGBT persecution, and rape based on their religious beliefs.

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* ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'':
''Fanfic/SonicXDarkChaos'':
** In the Angel Federation the Angels, Jews, and Muslims are all futuristic spacefaring nations - -- with the moral values of the early Catholic Church, Old Testament-era Mesopotamia, and eighth-century Arabia respectively. This trope also makes them the "grey" of the story's BlackAndGreyMorality; this trope leads to them casually committing horrible acts like genocide, racism, LGBT persecution, and rape based on their religious beliefs.



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* ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'' is just full of sexist songs like [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiqmZLOaD8o&feature=related A Girl Worth Fighting For]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZzWCXgDmkY&feature=related Honour To Us All,]] which fit in with how casually patriarchal ancient China was. They also include some odd ancient Chinese fetishes, like when one of the men mentions he wants a girl "paler than the moon." Also, when they're not going on about what women should be like, they're going on about how important it is to "Be a man!" in the "I'll Make A Man Out Of You" song.

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* ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'' is just full of sexist songs like [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiqmZLOaD8o&feature=related A com/watch?v=HiqmZLOaD8o "A Girl Worth Fighting For]] For"]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZzWCXgDmkY&feature=related Honour To com/watch?v=WZzWCXgDmkY "Honour to Us All,]] All"]], which fit in with how casually patriarchal ancient China was. They also include some odd ancient Chinese fetishes, like when one of the men mentions he wants a girl "paler than the moon." Also, when they're not going on about what women should be like, they're going on about how important it is to "Be a man!" in the "I'll Make A a Man Out Of of You" song.



** Played up with the moral ambiguity of the plagues. In Biblical times, God killing the firstborn sons of your enemies was clearly a good thing. With a more modern eye and attention to characterization, it becomes a gut-wrenching event for both Moses and Rameses.
** The film makes Moses's adopted father go from being a stern but loving dad to being pretty creepy just by reminding us how he (and most of the Egyptians) saw the Israelites: "Oh my son, they were only slaves." This follows into Rameses' opinion on the Israelites, who views them the same way as every other member of his family.
** Several facts from the religious texts the story originated from were changed/omitted for the movie to make the protagonists more sympathetic to a modern audience (eg; in the movie, Moses killing a slavemaster was accidental, according to the religious texts Moses did it deliberately).

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** Played up with the moral ambiguity of the plagues. In Biblical times, God killing the firstborn sons of your enemies was clearly a good thing. With a more modern eye and attention to characterization, it becomes a gut-wrenching event for both Moses and Rameses.
Ramses.
** The film makes Moses's adopted father go from being a stern but loving dad to being pretty creepy just by reminding us how he (and most of the Egyptians) saw the Israelites: "Oh my son, they were only slaves." This follows into Rameses' Ramses's opinion on the Israelites, who views them the same way as every other member of his family.
** Several facts from the religious texts the story originated from were changed/omitted for the movie to make the protagonists more sympathetic to a modern audience (eg; (e.g. in the movie, Moses killing a slavemaster was is accidental, according to the religious texts Moses did it deliberately).



* In ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' Princess Jasmine sneaks out and inadvertently gives away a fruit to a beggar child. Lacking money, the vendor would have chopped off her hand for stealing, had Aladdin not rescued her. This was TruthInTelevision for many Islamic societies.

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* In ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'', Princess Jasmine sneaks out and inadvertently gives away a fruit to a beggar child. Lacking money, the vendor would have chopped off her hand for stealing, had Aladdin not rescued her. This was TruthInTelevision for many Islamic societies.



* In ''Film/BackToTheFuture'', Marty realizes that the black busboy he is talking to in 1955 is the mayor in 1985. When he says this, the café owner scoffs "A colored mayor! [[ItWillNeverCatchOn That'll be the day!]]" (It's worth noting that the café owner is rude toward ''[[HatesEveryoneEqually everyone]]'', so maybe that's just part of his personality. Also he could have been waxing cynical about the ''other'' townspeoples' racism rather than expressing any of his own.) Oddly enough, this is a case of RealityIsUnrealistic, since the first black mayor in California was Edward Duplex, in ''1888'' (three years after the setting in ''[[Film/BackToTheFuturePartIII Part III]]''), in the majority-white town of Wheatland. Most likely either the writers or the character (and maybe the rest of the townspeople, for that matter) were unaware of this precedent.

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* ''Film/BackToTheFuture'':
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In ''Film/BackToTheFuture'', the first film, Marty realizes that the black busboy he is talking to in 1955 is the mayor in 1985. When he says this, the café owner scoffs "A colored mayor! [[ItWillNeverCatchOn That'll be the day!]]" (It's worth noting that the café owner is rude toward ''[[HatesEveryoneEqually everyone]]'', so maybe that's just part of his personality. Also he could have been waxing cynical about the ''other'' townspeoples' racism rather than expressing any of his own.) Oddly enough, this is a case of RealityIsUnrealistic, since the first black mayor in California was Edward Duplex, in ''1888'' (three years after the setting in ''[[Film/BackToTheFuturePartIII Part III]]''), ''Part III''), in the majority-white town of Wheatland. Most likely either the writers or the character (and maybe the rest of the townspeople, for that matter) were unaware of this precedent.



* ''Film/{{Timeline}}'', despite its poor reception, has one of the most accurate depictions of medieval values in modern fiction, moreso in [[Literature/{{Timeline}} the book]]. It's rather well summed up in the scene where the main party is escaping and the Scotsman (though Dutch in the novel), standing a few feet from the guard, with an arrow pointed at his chest says something to the effect of "Stay quiet if you value your life." The guard picks up his sword and yells "Traitors!" running at him. Before promptly being shot in the chest.

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* ''Film/{{Timeline}}'', despite its poor reception, has one of the most accurate depictions of medieval values in modern fiction, moreso in [[Literature/{{Timeline}} the book]]. book]].
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It's rather well summed up in the scene where the main party is escaping and the Scotsman (though Dutch in the novel), standing a few feet from the guard, with an arrow pointed at his chest says something to the effect of "Stay quiet if you value your life." The guard picks up his sword and yells "Traitors!" running at him. Before promptly being shot in the chest.



* ''Film/{{Help}}'' - it may seem disconcerting to see Music/TheBeatles (especially Lennon, although it's very obvious from his facial expression and tone of voice that he is mocking such attitudes) referring to "filthy Eastern ways" regarding their cultist pursuers, but all the deliberately stilted dialog in the movie is meant to invoke old movie and adventure novel cliches.

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* ''Film/{{Help}}'' - it ''Film/{{Help}}'': It may seem disconcerting to see Music/TheBeatles (especially Lennon, although it's very obvious from his facial expression and tone of voice that he is mocking such attitudes) referring to "filthy Eastern ways" regarding their cultist pursuers, but all the deliberately stilted dialog in the movie is meant to invoke old movie and adventure novel cliches.



* ''Film/{{Byzantium}}'': The Brethren's entire attitude towards women not being allowed to join their ranks, regardless of their merit. Clara's denied entry just over two centuries ago, which in of itself was hardly a time for enlightened views on women in general. But then you realise the Brethen are strongly implied to be much, much older than that and time clearly hasn't shaken the trappings of countless centuries of sexism by the time Clara wants to join. The fact her low birth is also a strike against her falls squarely into this trope too.

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* ''Film/{{Byzantium}}'': The Brethren's entire attitude towards women not being allowed to join their ranks, regardless of their merit. Clara's denied entry just over two centuries ago, which in of itself was hardly a time for enlightened views on women in general. But then you realise realize the Brethen are strongly implied to be much, much older than that and time clearly hasn't shaken the trappings of countless centuries of sexism by the time Clara wants to join. The fact her low birth is also a strike against her falls squarely into this trope too.



-->'''Rooster:''' Damn shame. I would give three dollars right now for a pickled buffalo tongue.
** Mattie is a fourteen year old girl and [=LaBoeuf=] is a a grown man. [=LaBoef=] explicitly shows attraction to Mattie, though she's uncomfortable with it.

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-->'''Rooster:''' --->'''Rooster:''' Damn shame. I would give three dollars right now for a pickled buffalo tongue.
** Mattie is a fourteen year old girl and [=LaBoeuf=] is a a grown man. [=LaBoef=] [=LaBoeuf=] explicitly shows attraction to Mattie, though she's uncomfortable with it.



* In Frank Herbert's ''Literature/{{Dune}}'' novels, none of the characters bat an eyelash at practices such as slavery, concubinage, gladiatorial games, arranged marriage, or forced marriage.

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* In Frank Herbert's ''Literature/{{Dune}}'' novels, none novels:
** None
of the characters bat an eyelash at practices such as slavery, concubinage, gladiatorial games, arranged marriage, or forced marriage.



** Fremen custom also condoned underage marriage. In ''Literature/DuneMessiah'', Stilgar urges Paul to marry off Alia so that she will have a legitimate outlet for her budding sexuality. Alia is in her ''early teens'' at the time.

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** Fremen custom customs also condoned condon underage marriage. In ''Literature/DuneMessiah'', Stilgar urges Paul to marry off Alia so that she will have a legitimate outlet for her budding sexuality. Alia is in her ''early teens'' at the time.



* Very much the case in the ''{{Literature/Flashman}}'' series: The hero makes [[Series/LifeOnMars2006 Gene Hunt]] look like Mr. PC in comparison.

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* Very much the case in the ''{{Literature/Flashman}}'' ''Literature/{{Flashman}}'' series: The hero makes [[Series/LifeOnMars2006 Gene Hunt]] look like Mr. PC in comparison.



* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' and it's TV adaptation ''Series/GameOfThrones'' has this in spades. Slavery, racism, sexism, prejudice against bastards and dwarves. A brutal massacre committed by a treacherous House causes them to be ostracized by everyone... not because of the massacre itself but because the massacred were their ''[[SacredHospitality guests]]''.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' and it's TV adaptation ''Series/GameOfThrones'' has this in spades. spades.
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Slavery, racism, sexism, prejudice against bastards and dwarves. A brutal massacre committed by a treacherous House causes them to be ostracized by everyone... not because of the massacre itself but because the massacred were their ''[[SacredHospitality guests]]''.



** Racism is mostly replaced with FantasticRacism (dwarfs and trolls), but some old fashioned sexism is on display, despite female heroes being common. ''Discworld/EqualRites'' features the Disc's first female wizard (as opposed to witch) getting looked down upon by other wizards, who believe a female wizard is impossible. Curiously, Granny Weatherwax shares this belief, saying that "if men were witches they'd be wizards", because there are inherent psychological differences between the genders. Esk ends up proving this false, as she can effectively be both.

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** Racism is mostly replaced with FantasticRacism (dwarfs and trolls), but some old fashioned old-fashioned sexism is on display, despite female heroes being common. ''Discworld/EqualRites'' features the Disc's first female wizard (as opposed to witch) getting looked down upon by other wizards, who believe a female wizard is impossible. Curiously, Granny Weatherwax shares this belief, saying that "if men were witches they'd be wizards", because there are inherent psychological differences between the genders. Esk ends up proving this false, as she can effectively be both.



*** Speaking of Dwarfs, many humans express outrage at the Dwarf custom of buying oneself from one's parents before getting married. To Dwarfs, this is a sensible way of letting a couple start a life together unencumbered by the past, and makes it possible for the couple's families to give the bride and groom lavish gifts without anyone's honor being insulted. To humans it is an unacceptable way of involving money in something which should be a purely emotional affair.

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*** ** Speaking of Dwarfs, many humans express outrage at the Dwarf custom of buying oneself from one's parents before getting married. To Dwarfs, this is a sensible way of letting a couple start a life together unencumbered by the past, and makes it possible for the couple's families to give the bride and groom lavish gifts without anyone's honor being insulted. To humans it is an unacceptable way of involving money in something which should be a purely emotional affair.



** Her book ''The Persian Boy'' was blasted by {{Moral Guardian}}s because one of its main themes is pederasty. In the text the narrator clearly states that his treatment as a child was horribly abusive, and if anything ''The Persian Boy'' is a scathing, vicious denunciation of child sexual abuse. Most of the main action of the novel, where the narrator finds love and happiness, takes place after he reaches adulthood. The Moral Guardians were also a bit put-out by the main character finding "love and happiness" in a romance with another man, which may have been all well and good in Ancient Greece, but apparently not so much in 1972 America.

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** * Her book ''The Persian Boy'' was blasted by {{Moral Guardian}}s because one of its main themes is pederasty. In the text the narrator clearly states that his treatment as a child was horribly abusive, and if anything ''The Persian Boy'' is a scathing, vicious denunciation of child sexual abuse. Most of the main action of the novel, where the narrator finds love and happiness, takes place after he reaches adulthood. The Moral Guardians were also a bit put-out by the main character finding "love and happiness" in a romance with another man, which may have been all well and good in Ancient Greece, but apparently not so much in 1972 America.



-->"By our mercy we will grant even the foulest a quick death. Not because we pity them, but because it is intolerable that good men should spend a lifetime dispensing pain."

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-->"By -->'''Severian:''' By our mercy we will grant even the foulest a quick death. Not because we pity them, but because it is intolerable that good men should spend a lifetime dispensing pain."



* In ''Literature/WatershipDown'' Adams openly states that they feel no guilt whatsoever about using force to compel weaker rabbits to yield to them. Which is probably TruthInTelevision for real rabbits, but needed to be pointed out for his Lapine-speaking, story-telling versions.

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* In ''Literature/WatershipDown'' ''Literature/WatershipDown'':
**
Adams openly states that they feel no guilt whatsoever about using force to compel weaker rabbits to yield to them. Which is probably TruthInTelevision for real rabbits, but needed to be pointed out for his Lapine-speaking, story-telling versions.



* JamesEllroy's ''LA Quartet'', set from 1947 to 1959, features even its more likable characters occasionally indulging in racial epithets, as well as similar attitudes to Jewish people.

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* JamesEllroy's Creator/JamesEllroy:
**
''LA Quartet'', set from 1947 to 1959, features even its more likable characters occasionally indulging in racial epithets, as well as similar attitudes to Jewish people.



-->The essential contention of the Underworld USA trilogy ... is that America was never innocent. Here's the lineage: America was founded on a bedrock of racism, slaughter of the indigenous people, slavery, religious lunacy ... and nations are never innocent. Let alone nations as powerful as our beloved fatherland. What you have in ''The Cold Six Thousand'' — which covers the years '63 to '68 — is that last gasp of pre-public-accountability America where the [[RedScare anti-communist mandate]] justified [[TheGovernment virtually any action]]. And it wasn't [[WhoShotJFK Kennedy's death]] that engendered mass skepticism. It was the protracted horror of the [[UsefulNotes/VietnamWar Vietnamese war]].

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-->The --->''The essential contention of the Underworld USA trilogy ... is that America was never innocent. Here's the lineage: America was founded on a bedrock of racism, slaughter of the indigenous people, slavery, religious lunacy ...lunacy... and nations are never innocent. Let alone nations as powerful as our beloved fatherland. What you have in ''The Cold Six Thousand'' -- which covers the years '63 to '68 -- is that last gasp of pre-public-accountability America where the [[RedScare anti-communist mandate]] justified [[TheGovernment virtually any action]]. And it wasn't [[WhoShotJFK Kennedy's death]] that engendered mass skepticism. It was the protracted horror of the [[UsefulNotes/VietnamWar Vietnamese war]].



** There's an amusing moment in the first book where Laurence reacts with shock and horror at the revelation that Captain Roland's daughter is [[spoiler: 'natural born', i.e. [[HeroicBastard the product of premarital sex]].]]

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** There's an amusing moment in the first book where Laurence reacts with shock and horror at the revelation that Captain Roland's daughter is [[spoiler: 'natural born', [[spoiler:"natural born", i.e. [[HeroicBastard the product of premarital sex]].]]



*** Slavery is one thing Laurence clashes with Horatio Nelson on. Nelson is staunchly pro-slavery, but is so on purely economic grounds, i.e. he believes that abolition might have a deleterious effect on tax revenue, and, by extension, the funding the armed forces desperately need for the war against Napoleon. He doesn't really oppose the idea of abolition, but definitely thinks that wartime is not the right time for social experiments.
** Most characters outside of the British Aerial Corps don’t like the idea of woman joining the military. Existence of female aviators is kept secret from the general public to avoid a scandal.
** In ''Tongues of Serpents'' Laurence believes that Emily should be given a chaperon and thinks her contacts with boys her age to be inappropriate. Other aviators laugh this idea off as ridiculous. In their eyes the worst that can happen is Emily getting pregnant – which would be expected of her anyway in order to produce a next captain for Excidium.

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*** ** Slavery is one thing Laurence clashes with Horatio Nelson on. Nelson is staunchly pro-slavery, but is so on purely economic grounds, i.e. he believes that abolition might have a deleterious effect on tax revenue, and, by extension, the funding the armed forces desperately need for the war against Napoleon. He doesn't really oppose the idea of abolition, but definitely thinks that wartime is not the right time for social experiments.
** Most characters outside of the British Aerial Corps don’t don't like the idea of woman joining the military. Existence of female aviators is kept secret from the general public to avoid a scandal.
** In ''Tongues of Serpents'' Serpents'', Laurence believes that Emily should be given a chaperon and thinks her contacts with boys her age to be inappropriate. Other aviators laugh this idea off as ridiculous. In their eyes the worst that can happen is Emily getting pregnant -- which would be expected of her anyway in order to produce a next captain for Excidium.



* In ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'', GreatWhiteHunter Ned Land asks Captain Nemo’s permission to hunt some whales. Nemo denies it and he accuses Ned of being an EgomaniacHunter. [[HypocriticalHumor Next they see some cachalots and Nemo]] [[KickTheDog destroys them using the Nautilus’ spur]]. When Ned accuses Nemo of being TheButcher, Nemo answers that [[WellIntentionedExtremist the cachalots were mischievous creatures]] and [[IDidWhatIHadToDo the Nautilus is his weapon]]. Verne shows us that no matter how mistaken the philosophy of a GreatWhiteHunter is, they will never do the damage that the Ubermensch can do using science.

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* In ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'', GreatWhiteHunter Ned Land asks Captain Nemo’s Nemo's permission to hunt some whales. Nemo denies it and he accuses Ned of being an EgomaniacHunter. [[HypocriticalHumor Next they see some cachalots and Nemo]] [[KickTheDog destroys them using the Nautilus’ Nautilus's spur]]. When Ned accuses Nemo of being TheButcher, Nemo answers that [[WellIntentionedExtremist the cachalots were are mischievous creatures]] and [[IDidWhatIHadToDo the Nautilus is his weapon]]. Verne shows us that no matter how mistaken the philosophy of a GreatWhiteHunter is, they will never do the damage that the Ubermensch can do using science.



* The ''Literature/CiaphasCain'' series is a much LighterAndSofter depiction of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' than other media, but still presents The Imperium as, well, TheEmpire. In ''For The Emperor'', Cain himself is repeatedly alienated and disturbed by the Tau and their human sympathizers, making comments about how he cannot see "xenos" as people, being horrified to hear a separatist tell him to go back to "[his] Emperor", and being cheerful of the prospect of the separatists getting pummeled by the loyalists. In the same book, Inquisitor Vail cheerfully reminisces of one of her favorite childhood songs... which is a disturbingly cheerful ditty about heretics being crushed under the tracks of a [[TankGoodness Land Raider]]. In ''Caves of Ice'', she likewise quips fondly of her favorite children's book, which depicts people being gruesomely burned alive for being heretics (i.e. humans who don't follow the Imperium). ''Cain's Last Stand'' casually mentions vans with convicts heading to a military orphanage "for live ammo exercises".

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* The ''Literature/CiaphasCain'' series is a much LighterAndSofter depiction of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' than other media, but still presents The Imperium as, well, TheEmpire. In ''For The the Emperor'', Cain himself is repeatedly alienated and disturbed by the Tau and their human sympathizers, making comments about how he cannot see "xenos" as people, being horrified to hear a separatist tell him to go back to "[his] Emperor", and being cheerful of the prospect of the separatists getting pummeled by the loyalists. In the same book, Inquisitor Vail cheerfully reminisces of one of her favorite childhood songs... which is a disturbingly cheerful ditty about heretics being crushed under the tracks of a [[TankGoodness Land Raider]]. In ''Caves of Ice'', she likewise quips fondly of her favorite children's book, which depicts people being gruesomely burned alive for being heretics (i.e. humans who don't follow the Imperium). ''Cain's Last Stand'' casually mentions vans with convicts heading to a military orphanage "for live ammo exercises".



* ''Franchise/{{Star Trek|ExpandedUniverse}}: Literature/{{Rihannsu}}'': The Romulans aren’t human, and their values can be quite different from human ones.
** They’re based in part on [[SpaceRomans the society of Ancient Rome]], and like the Romans think nothing of conquest and slavery, and saving face is very important (a concept the Romans called ''gravitas'').
** And then you get to the point where they lack the concept of doing anything for someone else’s good--you do things for the good of your own honor. If you’re competent about it, the action ought to benefit everybody’s honor, but you’re supposed to be thinking of your own. A spoilerriffic example from the first book: [[spoiler:Ael t'Rllaillieu's adult son Tafv betrays her in order to capture the ''Enterprise'' and deliver it to the Romulan government to gain leverage so they'll lift the banishment and {{Unperson}}hood of his cousin (the nameless Romulan commander from "[[Recap/StarTrekS3E2TheEnterpriseIncident The Enterprise Incident]]"), whom Ael tried to help but failed. After he's foiled, Ael kills him for betraying her. Even though he was already dying from his wounds, it's not a MercyKill.]]
** There's also a fair amount of casual racism by the Romulans directed at everyone else, including by the inhabitants of Romulus against their own kin on Remus.[[note]]This series predates ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'' by almost twenty years; the idea of Remans being a different species hadn't been thought of yet.[[/note]]

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* ''Franchise/{{Star Trek|ExpandedUniverse}}: Literature/{{Rihannsu}}'': The Romulans aren’t aren't human, and their values can be quite different from human ones.
** They’re They're based in part on [[SpaceRomans the society of Ancient Rome]], and like the Romans think nothing of conquest and slavery, and saving face is very important (a concept the Romans called ''gravitas'').
** And then you get to the point where they lack the concept of doing anything for someone else’s good--you else's good -- you do things for the good of your own honor. If you’re you're competent about it, the action ought to benefit everybody’s everybody's honor, but you’re you're supposed to be thinking of your own. A spoilerriffic example from the first book: [[spoiler:Ael t'Rllaillieu's adult son Tafv betrays her in order to capture the ''Enterprise'' and deliver it to the Romulan government to gain leverage so they'll lift the banishment and {{Unperson}}hood of his cousin (the nameless Romulan commander from "[[Recap/StarTrekS3E2TheEnterpriseIncident The Enterprise Incident]]"), whom Ael tried to help but failed. After he's foiled, Ael kills him for betraying her. Even though he was already dying from his wounds, it's not a MercyKill.]]
** There's also a fair amount of casual racism by the Romulans directed at everyone else, including by the inhabitants of Romulus against their own kin on Remus.[[note]]This (This series predates ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'' by almost twenty years; the idea of Remans being a different species hadn't been thought of yet.[[/note]])



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-->'''Dr. Algernon Edwards''': Is your race listed on your credentials?\\
'''Dr. John Thackery''': There's no need for it to be.

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-->'''Dr. Algernon Edwards''': Edwards:''' Is your race listed on your credentials?\\
'''Dr. John Thackery''': Thackery:''' There's no need for it to be.



* Gene Hunt on ''Series/{{Life On Mars|2006}}'' and ''Series/AshesToAshes'' is a racist sexist gay-basher who gives out PoliceBrutality like presents. He still has enough redeeming qualities to qualify for NobleBigotWithABadge, but most people wouldn't want him on a modern police force.

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* Gene Hunt on ''Series/{{Life On on Mars|2006}}'' and ''Series/AshesToAshes'' is a racist sexist gay-basher who gives out PoliceBrutality like presents. He still has enough redeeming qualities to qualify for NobleBigotWithABadge, but most people wouldn't want him on a modern police force.



-->'''Frederick Douglass''': In his company I was never in any way reminded of my humble origin, or of my unpopular color.'''

** Uhura's response is an example as well; she implies that humanity has "outgrown" categorizing people by race, or being offended by archaic labels such as "Negress." Needless to say, while there are those who believe we should aspire to this, we're not there yet.

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-->'''Frederick Douglass''': --->'''Frederick Douglass:''' In his company I was never in any way reminded of my humble origin, or of my unpopular color.'''

color.
** Uhura's response is an example as well; she implies that humanity has "outgrown" categorizing people by race, or being offended by archaic labels such as "Negress." "Negress". Needless to say, while there are those who believe we should aspire to this, we're not there yet.



** A lot of episodes dealt with alien cultures which often starkly departed from human values in some way. For instance, one planet had an annual day-long orgy of violence and destruction while they were endlessly polite and controlled the rest of the year; one world modelled their culture on the prohibition era, with murder and lawlessness as the norm; at least two planets practised slavery, one of them with televised galdiatorial fights; two planets were engaged in a centuries-long war which had essentially become a massive LARP with people willingly committing suicide if a computer decided they had died; etc.

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** A lot of episodes dealt with alien cultures which often starkly departed depart from human values in some way. For instance, one planet had has an annual day-long orgy of violence and destruction while they were are endlessly polite and controlled the rest of the year; one world modelled modeled their culture on the prohibition era, with murder and lawlessness as the norm; at least two planets practised practice slavery, one of them with televised galdiatorial gladiatorial fights; two planets were are engaged in a centuries-long war which had has essentially become a massive LARP with people willingly committing suicide if a computer decided decides they had died; etc.



--->'''Atia''': For what reason, I wonder, would you and Caesar possibly be skulking around in a cupboard...?\\
'''Octavian''': ''What?'' We were... it was nothing.\\
'''Atia''': "Nothing"? It doesn't sound like nothing. [''beams''] You ''seduced'' him, you sly little fox!\\
'''Octavian''': I did not!\\
'''Atia''': I am not clear it is decent, him being your great uncle... but who's to say what's decent in times like these? In any case, ''well done.'' Let's see Servilia compete with a soft young boy like you. What power we shall wield...!

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--->'''Atia''': --->'''Atia:''' For what reason, I wonder, would you and Caesar possibly be skulking around in a cupboard...?\\
'''Octavian''': '''Octavian:''' ''What?'' We were... it was nothing.\\
'''Atia''': '''Atia:''' "Nothing"? It doesn't sound like nothing. [''beams''] You ''seduced'' him, you sly little fox!\\
'''Octavian''': '''Octavian:''' I did not!\\
'''Atia''': '''Atia:''' I am not clear it is decent, him being your great uncle... but who's to say what's decent in times like these? In any case, ''well done.'' Let's see Servilia compete with a soft young boy like you. What power we shall wield...!



* ''{{Series/Deadwood}}'':

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* ''{{Series/Deadwood}}'': ''Series/{{Deadwood}}'':



* ''{{Roots}}''. Black characters are always called "niggers"; a white sailor describes them as being essentially animals, their languages being no more than grunts. Rape of black women is widespread and accepted. The owners discuss how teaching them to read - if it be possible - would only make them unhappy. (Of course, the entire ''point'' of ''Roots'' is [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped to describe this sort of thing.]])
* ''Series/DrQuinnMedicineWoman'' featuring a female doctor/adoptive mom coming to work in a frontier town, without PoliticallyCorrectHistory coming into play. "Dr. Mike" and her children were exceptionally enlightened, as might be expected, but most plots derived from the ignorance of the townsfolk over natives, Jewish immigrants, reconstruction, Darwinian evolution, or (most commonly) single mothers as doctors.
** Even Mike herself falls victim to this. She is at first very apprehensive about the Native Americans, having never even seen them before moving to Colorado Springs, as well as uncomfortable about her son Brian's friendship with Walt Whitman after hearing rumors about Whitman's sexuality.

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* ''{{Roots}}''.''Series/{{Roots}}''. Black characters are always called "niggers"; a white sailor describes them as being essentially animals, their languages being no more than grunts. Rape of black women is widespread and accepted. The owners discuss how teaching them to read - -- if it be possible - -- would only make them unhappy. (Of course, the entire ''point'' of ''Roots'' is [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped to describe this sort of thing.]])
* ''Series/DrQuinnMedicineWoman'' featuring ''Series/DrQuinnMedicineWoman'':
** It features
a female doctor/adoptive mom coming to work in a frontier town, without PoliticallyCorrectHistory coming into play. "Dr. Mike" and her children were are exceptionally enlightened, as might be expected, but most plots derived derive from the ignorance of the townsfolk over natives, Jewish immigrants, reconstruction, Darwinian evolution, or (most commonly) single mothers as doctors.
doctors.
** Even Mike herself falls victim to this. She is at first very apprehensive about the Native Americans, having never even seen them before moving to Colorado Springs, as well as uncomfortable about her son Brian's friendship with Walt Whitman after hearing rumors about Whitman's sexuality.



** Martha worries in "The Shakespeare Code" about a black woman wandering around London in 1599, but the Doctor assures her that London has always been a place of many peoples and she should be fine. Indeed the worst thing that happens is Shakespeare flirting with her by using several terms for 'black person' that were common in the day, but not by any means considered politically correct now. (He eventually settles on [[spoiler:my dark lady]], a term that anyone who knows Shakespeare's sonnets might [[HistoricalInJoke find a little familiar.]]) She ends up being inflicted with worse in 1913, with "Human Nature"/"The Family of Blood" having the students mocking her ("With hands like those, how can you tell when something's clean?"), Joan not believing that Martha could ever train as a doctor because she's black and female, and John Smith believing that Martha can't understand the difference between fictional literature and reality. The best part is that Joan has almost no trouble believing that John Smith was the Doctor and an alien, but can't seem to get her head around a black woman training to be a doctor.
** In "The Unicorn and the Wasp", Donna feels sympathy for the footman Davenport because his lover Lord Roger has been murdered and, since it is the 1920's, he cannot openly mourn or acknowledge that they were anything other than master and servant, even though [[TransparentCloset everyone in the household appears to have known]].
** Played for laughs in the second trailer to the 2012 Christmas special; a Victorian policeman takes it fairly in stride that the detective he's working with is a reptilian woman from Earth's distant past employing a genetically-engineered warrior from space. The fact that she's [[LesYay romantically involved with her maid]] visibly freaks him out though. The actual episode makes a DiscriminateAndSwitch joke out of this, with Simeon apparently being more disgusted that the Veiled Detective is a ''woman'' as opposed to not being human, and is especially derisive of her and Jenny's relationship (Vastra rejects his accusations of impropriety; they ''are'' married after all).
* ''Series/QuantumLeap'', all the time--for example, when Sam leaps into a black man in the pre-civil rights era South, or a secretary in 1961 who's being sexually harassed by her boss. One famous episode dealt with gay people in the military, and had Sam contend not only with the gay-bashing (and ''-killing'') cadets at the academy, but his own partner Al, who didn't believe gay people should be allowed to serve and changed his mind over the course of the episode.
* ''Series/ColdCase'' played this for all it was worth. Expect at least five episodes a season to make the ''era'' the case's real monster, while savagely taking a [[PlanescapeTorment Chris]] [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Avellone]]-level DeconstructorFleet to the notion that earlier decades were happier, more innocent times.
* Invoked in JamesEllroy's ''LA Quartet'', which is set in the 1940s and '50s and features a shocking amount of racist and anti-Semitic statements from lots of characters, including many otherwise likable protagonists. Ellroy deliberately points out how deeply ingrained into society those feelings were, that even nice people could get caught up in them.

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** Martha worries in "The Shakespeare Code" about a black woman wandering around London in 1599, but the Doctor assures her that London has always been a place of many peoples and she should be fine. Indeed the worst thing that happens is Shakespeare flirting with her by using several terms for 'black person' "black person" that were common in the day, but not by any means considered politically correct now. (He eventually settles on [[spoiler:my dark lady]], a term that anyone who knows Shakespeare's sonnets might [[HistoricalInJoke find a little familiar.]]) She ends up being inflicted with worse in 1913, with "Human Nature"/"The Family of Blood" having the students mocking her ("With hands like those, how can you tell when something's clean?"), Joan not believing that Martha could ever train as a doctor because she's black and female, and John Smith believing that Martha can't understand the difference between fictional literature and reality. The best part is that Joan has almost no trouble believing that John Smith was the Doctor and an alien, but can't seem to get her head around a black woman training to be a doctor.
** In "The Unicorn and the Wasp", Donna feels sympathy for the footman Davenport because his lover Lord Roger has been murdered and, since it is the 1920's, 1920s, he cannot openly mourn or acknowledge that they were anything other than master and servant, even though [[TransparentCloset everyone in the household appears to have known]].
** Played for laughs in the second trailer to the 2012 Christmas special; a Victorian policeman takes it fairly in stride that the detective he's working with is a reptilian woman from Earth's distant past employing a genetically-engineered warrior from space. The fact that she's [[LesYay romantically involved with her maid]] visibly freaks him out out, though. The actual episode makes a DiscriminateAndSwitch joke out of this, with Simeon apparently being more disgusted that the Veiled Detective is a ''woman'' as opposed to not being human, and is especially derisive of her and Jenny's relationship relationship. (Vastra rejects his accusations of impropriety; they ''are'' married after all).
all.)
* ''Series/QuantumLeap'', all the time--for time -- for example, when Sam leaps into a black man in the pre-civil rights era South, or a secretary in 1961 who's being sexually harassed by her boss. One famous episode dealt with gay people in the military, and had has Sam contend not only with the gay-bashing (and ''-killing'') cadets at the academy, but his own partner Al, who didn't doesn't believe gay people should be allowed to serve and changed changes his mind over the course of the episode.
* ''Series/ColdCase'' played this for all it was worth. Expect at least five episodes a season to make the ''era'' the case's real monster, while savagely taking a [[PlanescapeTorment [[VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment Chris]] [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Avellone]]-level DeconstructorFleet to the notion that earlier decades were happier, more innocent times.
* Invoked in JamesEllroy's Creator/JamesEllroy's ''LA Quartet'', which is set in the 1940s and '50s and features a shocking amount of racist and anti-Semitic statements from lots of characters, including many otherwise likable protagonists. Ellroy deliberately points out how deeply ingrained into society those feelings were, that even nice people could get caught up in them.



* ''Series/{{Merlin 2008}}'' has rigid class structures be an obstacle for Arthur and Guinevere.
* [[Literature/SleepingBeauty Aurora]] in ''Series/OnceUponATime'' had a mild moment where she was in disbelief that there was a female warrior (Disney/{{Mulan}}) traveling and fighting alongside Prince Phillip. Part of it may be contributed to GreenEyedMonster as she might have felt threatened by this beautiful, exotic ActionGirl.

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* ''Series/{{Merlin 2008}}'' ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}'' has rigid class structures be an obstacle for Arthur and Guinevere.
* [[Literature/SleepingBeauty Aurora]] in ''Series/OnceUponATime'' had a mild moment where she was is in disbelief that there was is a female warrior (Disney/{{Mulan}}) traveling and fighting alongside Prince Phillip. Part of it may be contributed to GreenEyedMonster as she might have felt threatened by this beautiful, exotic ActionGirl.



* ''Series/ChappellesShow''
** One sketch has Paul Mooney as a black film critic who watches ''GoneWithTheWind'' alongside two white female reviewers. The white women laud the film for being powerful and feminist, while Mooney savages it for the blatant racism and whitewashed depiction of slavery.

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* ''Series/ChappellesShow''
''Series/ChappellesShow'':
** One sketch has Paul Mooney as a black film critic who watches ''GoneWithTheWind'' ''Film/GoneWithTheWind'' alongside two white female reviewers. The white women laud the film for being powerful and feminist, while Mooney savages it for the blatant racism and whitewashed depiction of slavery.




-->"In 1867, the progressive Reverend Turnbill officiated a wedding between a white woman and a Wamapoke Indian chief. The secret ceremony was beautiful and romantic. But then word got out and the reception was a bloodbath. Fortunately, there were two survivors. Unfortunately, they were both horses."\\

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\n-->"In "In 1867, the progressive Reverend Turnbill officiated a wedding between a white woman and a Wamapoke Indian chief. The secret ceremony was beautiful and romantic. But then word got out and the reception was a bloodbath. Fortunately, there were two survivors. Unfortunately, they were both horses."\\
"



--> '''Leslie:''' This is a map of all the atrocities the Pawnee settlers inflicted upon the Wamapoke Indians.
--> ''{{Beat}}''
--> '''Leslie:''' The atrocities are in blue.

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--> '''Leslie:''' --->'''Leslie:''' This is a map of all the atrocities the Pawnee settlers inflicted upon the Wamapoke Indians.
--> ''{{Beat}}''
-->
Indians.\\
''[{{beat}}]''\\
'''Leslie:''' The atrocities are in blue.



-->'''Clem:''' ''[Indicating Ianto]'': So who's the Queer?\\
[Ianto turns around, outraged]\\

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-->'''Clem:''' ''[Indicating Ianto]'': Ianto]'' So who's the Queer?\\
[Ianto ''[Ianto turns around, outraged]\\outraged]''\\



'''Clem''': ''[Matter of Fact]'' He's a Queer -- I can smell it.

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'''Clem''': ''[Matter of Fact]'' '''Clem:''' ''[matter-of-fact]'' He's a Queer -- I can smell it.



* ''Series/AgentCarter'' shows the struggle that a single woman has to deal with in the post-WWII business world, seen as fit only to take lunch orders and answer the phones.

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* ''Series/AgentCarter'' shows ''Series/AgentCarter'':
** Shows
the struggle that a single woman has to deal with in the post-WWII business world, seen as fit only to take lunch orders and answer the phones.



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* The ''Twisted Toyfare Theater'' strip featuring the thawed out [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] Spider-Man took this trope to town, highlighting the fact that Silver Age Spidey's values and priorities are incredibly screwed up. As the normal Spider-Man says, "He guns downs bank robbers and ''punches'' dictators!" Also, the first thing he says after being unfrozen is "What the-?! There used to be a ''foreigner'' at the end of this fist."
* A story in the ''NationalLampoon'' ca. 1972 had a 30-ish guy waking up in his early 1950s childhood. He goes with it, figuring his adult knowledge will make schoolwork a breeze...then he blurts out that President Truman had kicked General [=MacArthur=] out of Korea, forgetting it hadn't happened yet. His teacher is horrified, but he continues his train of thought, going into a Vietnam-era rant about the futility of trying to police the world. The story's tagline was "If you knew then what you know now, boy, would ''you'' be in trouble..."
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[[folder:Newspaper Comics]]
* ''ComicStrip/NonSequitur'':
** A customer at Flo's diner was talking about all the wonderful things about TheFifties and how America going back to that time and those values would be better for everyone, and Flo replies that she agrees and will turn the diner retro, "starting with this vintage sign..." She writes something down and shows it to him, but with her back to the "camera," all we see is his horrified reaction. In the next panel, we see what the sign says: "WHITES ONLY." The man concedes, "Well, maybe not better for ''everyone.''"
** Danae visits an alternate universe in which every person is given one wish. It's revealed that Clarence Thomas (real life Associate Justice of the Supreme Court) wished for the United States Constitution to be interpreted as the Founding Fathers originally intended, and it is implied that he is now a servant/slave because of it.

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[[folder:Print Media]]
* ''ComicStrip/NonSequitur'':
** A customer at Flo's diner was talking about all
The ''Twisted Toyfare Theater'' strip featuring the wonderful things about TheFifties and how America going back thawed out [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] Spider-Man took this trope to town, highlighting the fact that time and those Silver Age Spidey's values and priorities are incredibly screwed up. As the normal Spider-Man says, "He guns downs bank robbers and ''punches'' dictators!" Also, the first thing he says after being unfrozen is "What the-?! There used to be a ''foreigner'' at the end of this fist."
* A story in the ''NationalLampoon'' ca. 1972 had a 30-ish guy waking up in his early 1950s childhood. He goes with it, figuring his adult knowledge will make schoolwork a breeze...then he blurts out that President Truman had kicked General [=MacArthur=] out of Korea, forgetting it hadn't happened yet. His teacher is horrified, but he continues his train of thought, going into a Vietnam-era rant about the futility of trying to police the world. The story's tagline was "If you knew then what you know now, boy,
would ''you'' be better for everyone, and Flo replies that she agrees and will turn the diner retro, "starting with this vintage sign..." She writes something down and shows it to him, but with her back to the "camera," all we see is his horrified reaction. In the next panel, we see what the sign says: "WHITES ONLY." The man concedes, "Well, maybe not better for ''everyone.''"
** Danae visits an alternate universe
in which every person is given one wish. It's revealed that Clarence Thomas (real life Associate Justice of the Supreme Court) wished for the United States Constitution to be interpreted as the Founding Fathers originally intended, and it is implied that he is now a servant/slave because of it.trouble..."



* ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'' did not shy from adding real-life medieval sexism (if a somewhat watered-down version) to its sourcebook depicting the MedievalStasis nation Bretonnia; women are second-class citizens without the ability to own property or manage their own affairs, and if female characters want to be adventurers they'll have to pretend to be men. The opening chapter lampshades this, stating that if you find it offensive you are at full liberty to not include it in your game and that "This is not a feature of Bretonnian society of which the author and Games Workshop approves" and furthermore that "The author and Black Library also does not approve of [[KillThePoor the arbitrary execution of peasants]], [[SillyReasonForWar fighting local wars over an insult]], or [[ReligionOfEvil worshiping the Ruinous Powers]], all activities depicted herein. Just so we're clear." Some of the ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' novels imply that homosexuality is regarded as an act of worshipping [[GodOfEvil Slaanesh]] and thusly punishable by burning at the stake.
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' does this quite deliberately to help convey that it's a [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]]. Slavery, racism, murderous xenophobia, the glorification of ignorance and mindless zeal, religious fundamentalism -- and that's just the humans! Appropriately this applies even to the more heroic characters, with Literature/CiaphasCain (one of the most noble and just characters in the setting, [[UnreliableNarrator even if he doesn't realise it]]) viewing "mutants" and anyone who disagrees with Imperial rule with the same scorn any loyal Imperial soldier would.
** Ironically by our standards, the Imperium seems to be racially and sexually equal, with the scorn applying only to FantasticRacism. The only exceptions would be organizations in the Imperium that are explicitly patriarchal and matriarchal.

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* ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'' did does not shy from adding real-life medieval sexism (if a somewhat watered-down version) to its sourcebook depicting the MedievalStasis nation Bretonnia; women are second-class citizens without the ability to own property or manage their own affairs, and if female characters want to be adventurers they'll have to pretend to be men. The opening chapter lampshades this, stating that if you find it offensive you are at full liberty to not include it in your game and that "This is not a feature of Bretonnian society of which the author and Games Workshop approves" and furthermore that "The author and Black Library also does not approve of [[KillThePoor the arbitrary execution of peasants]], [[SillyReasonForWar fighting local wars over an insult]], or [[ReligionOfEvil worshiping the Ruinous Powers]], all activities depicted herein. Just so we're clear." Some of the ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' novels imply that homosexuality is regarded as an act of worshipping [[GodOfEvil Slaanesh]] and thusly punishable by burning at the stake.
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' does this quite deliberately to help convey that it's a [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]]. Slavery, racism, murderous xenophobia, the glorification of ignorance and mindless zeal, religious fundamentalism -- and that's just the humans! Appropriately this applies even to the more heroic characters, with Literature/CiaphasCain (one of the most noble and just characters in the setting, [[UnreliableNarrator even if he doesn't realise it]]) viewing "mutants" and anyone who disagrees with Imperial rule with the same scorn any loyal Imperial soldier would.
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would. Ironically by our standards, the Imperium seems to be racially and sexually equal, with the scorn applying only to FantasticRacism. The only exceptions would be organizations in the Imperium that are explicitly patriarchal and matriarchal.



* There's a mostly comedic example in ''[[VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia Fate/hollow ataraxia]]'' with Lancer. Unlike the other Servants who are similarly temporally displaced from their origins, Lancer only superficially blends in. He's completely unable to understand why Shirou might have issue with him trying to sleep with his classmates, is ready to kill people that Shirou thinks are his friends at any time and seems to feel that anything he can take from their actual owners is his.



* ''VisualNovel/AnalogueAHateStory'', with its [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Scifi Counterpart Culture]] to Korea's Joseon Dynasty, uses DeliberateValuesDissonance for all its worth, even going so far as to give the player a {{Tsundere}} SpaceshipGirl mouthpiece for the culture in question.



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* There's a mostly comedic example in ''VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia'' with Lancer. Unlike the other Servants who are similarly temporally displaced from their origins, Lancer only superficially blends in. He's completely unable to understand why Shirou might have issue with him trying to sleep with his classmates, is ready to kill people that Shirou thinks are his friends at any time and seems to feel that anything he can take from their actual owners is his.
* ''VisualNovel/AnalogueAHateStory'', with its [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Scifi Counterpart Culture]] to Korea's Joseon Dynasty, uses DeliberateValuesDissonance for all its worth, even going so far as to give the player a {{Tsundere}} SpaceshipGirl mouthpiece for the culture in question.
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* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwA1VeYpvaM "If Disney Cartoons Were Historically Accurate"]]. You won't see your princess the same way again.
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* In [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=6094 this page]] Sillice from ''{{Drowtales}}'' illustrate the difference in in-world values, which is one of the reason that characters that come across as BadAss, AxCrazy, or [[KnightTemplar extremist]] to people from our world sometimes are portrayed in a positive light. This along with a world of GrayAndGreyMorality leads to a lot of debate among the readers.

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* In [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=6094 this page]] Sillice from ''{{Drowtales}}'' ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'' illustrate the difference in in-world values, which is one of the reason that characters that come across as BadAss, Badass, AxCrazy, or [[KnightTemplar extremist]] to people from our world sometimes are portrayed in a positive light. This along with a world of GrayAndGreyMorality leads to a lot of debate among the readers.



* In ''{{Webcomic/Erfworld}}'', units are compelled to serve leaders and causes [[RPGMechanicsVerse by a loyalty mechanic]]. Parson Gotti, meanwhile, is from our world and has these strange notions of "free will", "choice", and "not taking sexual advantage of underlings". Egad. Made worse when Maggie, a spellcaster and therefore one of the few units who exercise some amount of free will, mocks him for being reluctant to take advantage of the situation.

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* In ''{{Webcomic/Erfworld}}'', ''Webcomic/{{Erfworld}}'', units are compelled to serve leaders and causes [[RPGMechanicsVerse by a loyalty mechanic]]. Parson Gotti, meanwhile, is from our world and has these strange notions of "free will", "choice", and "not taking sexual advantage of underlings". Egad. Made worse when Maggie, a spellcaster and therefore one of the few units who exercise some amount of free will, mocks him for being reluctant to take advantage of the situation.



* In ''DraconiaChronicles'', an [[LadyLand inverse gender dynamic]] also inverts MenAreTheExpendableGender, and [[WouldHurtAChild kids are apparently fair game.]] there is also no concept of "civilian" or "enemy noncombatant". POW's are only taken to inflict further indignities on them.

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* In ''DraconiaChronicles'', ''Webcomic/DraconiaChronicles'', an [[LadyLand inverse gender dynamic]] also inverts MenAreTheExpendableGender, and [[WouldHurtAChild kids are apparently fair game.]] there is also no concept of "civilian" or "enemy noncombatant". POW's are only taken to inflict further indignities on them.



* In ''Webcomic/{{GastroPhobia}}'' Phobia and Gastro own a slave, though [[spoiler:they later try to set him free]], which the rest of {{Ancient Gree|ce}}k society doesn't see it as big deal. Klepto, instead of [[spoiler:getting set free]], gets [[spoiler:repossessed by the government]] because the law in which Phobia acquired him only applies to natural born greek citizens, "...not women or barbarians and certainly not barabarian women", implying they don't see women as citizens.

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* In ''Webcomic/{{GastroPhobia}}'' ''Webcomic/GastroPhobia'' Phobia and Gastro own a slave, though [[spoiler:they later try to set him free]], which the rest of {{Ancient Gree|ce}}k society doesn't see it as big deal. Klepto, instead of [[spoiler:getting set free]], gets [[spoiler:repossessed by the government]] because the law in which Phobia acquired him only applies to natural born greek citizens, "... not women or barbarians and certainly not barabarian barbarian women", implying they don't see women as citizens.



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* ''SurvivalOfTheFittest'' spin-off ''The Program'' is based entirely on this trope. It's set in a militaristic, extreme nationalist version of [[EagleLand America]] TwentyMinutesInTheFuture. So, there's a fair amount of this. Most notably, as a result of their nationalist upbringings, many characters are to some extent xenophobic and treat "foreign" looking people not too kindly, which is most prominently seen with Japanese-American [[TheWoobie Marilyn Williams]] and AngryBlackMan Bryant Carver.
* Literature/LandGames: The player's society is extremely imperialistic, regularly invading and conquering foreign worlds. Jayle is the only one who has a problem with this.
* This is done in ThreeWorldsCollide where future social mores aren't at all like present ones, much like present ones would be almost incomprehensible those of several hundred years in the past. A particular example is future humans' views on (legalized) rape, which are so divorced from modern mores that the latter are incomprehensible to the protagonists even after being explained.
* Wiki/SCPFoundation:

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* ''SurvivalOfTheFittest'' ''Roleplay/SurvivalOfTheFittest'' spin-off ''The Program'' is based entirely on this trope. It's set in a militaristic, extreme nationalist version of [[EagleLand America]] TwentyMinutesInTheFuture. So, there's a fair amount of this. Most notably, as a result of their nationalist upbringings, many characters are to some extent xenophobic and treat "foreign" looking people not too kindly, which is most prominently seen with Japanese-American [[TheWoobie Marilyn Williams]] and AngryBlackMan Bryant Carver.
* Literature/LandGames: ''Literature/LandGames'': The player's society is extremely imperialistic, regularly invading and conquering foreign worlds. Jayle is the only one who has a problem with this.
* This is done in ThreeWorldsCollide ''Literature/ThreeWorldsCollide'' where future social mores aren't at all like present ones, much like present ones would be almost incomprehensible those of several hundred years in the past. A particular example is future humans' views on (legalized) rape, which are so divorced from modern mores that the latter are incomprehensible to the protagonists even after being explained.
* Wiki/SCPFoundation:''Wiki/SCPFoundation'':



* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwA1VeYpvaM If Disney Cartoons Were Historically Accurate]] You won't see your princess the same way again.



* ''LetsPlay/{{Bravemule}}'' uses this in its portrayal of the dwarf culture of ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress''. The dwarves are violently isolationist, vicious, and militaristic, perceiving anything they are not familiar with as a threat and slaughtering it accordingly. This leads to the fort's downfall when Behem's deadfall trap in the trade depot causes the humans to go to war with Bravemule, and Traeme fully expects to be remembered as a hero for [[spoiler: ordering Exi to [[GodzillaThreshold breach the Underworld]] when the humans get the upper hand]]. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking They also consider]] [[AlienGeometries octagons to be unholy]].

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* ''LetsPlay/{{Bravemule}}'' uses this in its portrayal of the dwarf culture of ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress''. The dwarves are violently isolationist, vicious, and militaristic, perceiving anything they are not familiar with as a threat and slaughtering it accordingly. This leads to the fort's downfall when Behem's deadfall trap in the trade depot causes the humans to go to war with Bravemule, and Traeme fully expects to be remembered as a hero for [[spoiler: ordering [[spoiler:ordering Exi to [[GodzillaThreshold breach the Underworld]] when the humans get the upper hand]]. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking They also consider]] [[AlienGeometries octagons to be unholy]].






-->'''Announcer''': It's ''The Rusty Venture Show!'' Brought to you by ''Smoking!''
* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Three Men and a Comic Book" Bart sees an old Radioactive Man cartoon wherein the eponymous superhero is smoking.
--> '''Radioactive Man:''' Ah, these Laramie cigarettes give me the steady nerves I need to combat evil.\\

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-->'''Announcer''': -->'''Announcer:''' It's ''The Rusty Venture Show!'' Brought to you by ''Smoking!''
* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Three Men and a Comic Book" Book", Bart sees an old Radioactive Man cartoon wherein the eponymous superhero is smoking.
--> '''Radioactive -->'''Radioactive Man:''' Ah, these Laramie cigarettes give me the steady nerves I need to combat evil.\\



** The episode "Legends" was created as an homage to UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks, and featured plot-lines and events taken whole-cloth from the earlier era. However, this does not always translate too well to the current age, and [[TheBigGuy Hawkgirl]] is rather resistant when [[TheChick Black Siren]] asks for her help making cookies and letting "the men" talk. Later, John Stewart, the (black) Green Lantern, is not entirely sure how to react when he is told that he is [[YouAreACreditToYourRace "a credit to [his] people."]] Both statements were perfectly normal (even progressive) back in their proper age, when having black or female heroes at all was amazing, but cause discomfort when brought to modern people.
** The time the group had to travel back to WWII to stop Vandal Savage from [[StupidJetpackHitler giving the Nazis a technological edge]], although this was downplayed: several characters are blatantly shocked that Wonder Woman and Hawkgirl are, well, women. Not much is ''outright'' said about John Stewart's presence as an African American showing up in the middle of a White battalion, but that was mostly because they were in the middle of being nailed by an artillery barrage, and he was handy with a submachine gun.
* ''Time Pervs'' (a recurring sketch on the short-lived sketch show ''VH1 Ill-ustrated'') is about BillClinton, Pee-Wee Herman and Larry Flint using a time-traveling wheelchair to perv out on hot women in history. They decide to see Helen of Troy in person, expecting an HourglassHottie only to find she's practically [[Film/{{Hairspray}} Mrs. Turnblad]], yet a guard lovingly talks of the same features that creep them out and are aghast that they're actually turned off. TruthInTelevision considering how the ancient Greek standards of beauty wildly differs with the American standards of beauty.

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** The episode "Legends" was created as an homage to UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks, and featured features plot-lines and events taken whole-cloth from the earlier era. However, this does not always translate too well to the current age, and [[TheBigGuy Hawkgirl]] is rather resistant when [[TheChick Black Siren]] asks for her help making cookies and letting "the men" talk. Later, John Stewart, the (black) Green Lantern, is not entirely sure how to react when he is told that he is [[YouAreACreditToYourRace "a credit to [his] people."]] Both statements were perfectly normal (even progressive) back in their proper age, when having black or female heroes at all was amazing, but cause discomfort when brought to modern people.
** The time the group had has to travel back to WWII to stop Vandal Savage from [[StupidJetpackHitler giving the Nazis a technological edge]], although this was is downplayed: several characters are blatantly shocked that Wonder Woman and Hawkgirl are, well, women. Not much is ''outright'' said about John Stewart's presence as an African American showing up in the middle of a White battalion, but that was is mostly because they were are in the middle of being nailed by an artillery barrage, and he was is handy with a submachine gun.
* ''Time Pervs'' (a recurring sketch on the short-lived sketch show ''VH1 Ill-ustrated'') is about BillClinton, UsefulNotes/BillClinton, Pee-Wee Herman and Larry Flint using a time-traveling wheelchair to perv out on hot women in history. They decide to see Helen of Troy in person, expecting an HourglassHottie only to find she's practically [[Film/{{Hairspray}} Mrs. Turnblad]], yet a guard lovingly talks of the same features that creep them out and are aghast that they're actually turned off. TruthInTelevision considering how the ancient Greek standards of beauty wildly differs with the American standards of beauty.



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Family Guy}}'' does this in the episode "Peter's Progression" showing Peter's ancestor Griffin Peterson first settling in the New World.
-->'''Griffin:''' We will have equal rights for all. Except blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Jews, gays, women, Muslims. Uhmm...Everybody who's not a white man. And I mean white-white, so no Italians, no Polish, just people from Ireland, England, and Scotland. But only certain parts of Scotland and Ireland. Just full blooded whites. No, you know what? Not even whites. Nobody gets any rights. Ahhh...America!
* That episode of ''WesternAnimation/XMen'' where they traveled back in time to the sixties to save Professor X's life. Storm wasn't allowed in whites only bar. She found it quaint that for once she's being discriminated for her color and not her powers.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Family Guy}}'' ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' does this in the episode "Peter's Progression" showing Peter's ancestor Griffin Peterson first settling in the New World.
-->'''Griffin:''' We will have equal rights for all. Except blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Jews, gays, women, Muslims. Uhmm... Everybody who's not a white man. And I mean white-white, so no Italians, no Polish, just people from Ireland, England, and Scotland. But only certain parts of Scotland and Ireland. Just full blooded full-blooded whites. No, you know what? Not even whites. Nobody gets any rights. Ahhh...America!
* That episode of ''WesternAnimation/XMen'' where they traveled travel back in time to the sixties to save Professor X's life. Storm wasn't isn't allowed in whites only whites-only bar. She found finds it quaint that for once she's being discriminated for her color and not her powers.



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* In ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'', the eastern Rosharans consider dark-eyed people to be inherently inferior to light-eyed ones, condemn men reading, believe female left hand to need hiding from public and enforce strict division between sexes. Not only are professions and living spaces segregated into male and female ones, but even cuisine is different for men and women - male food should be spicy, while female must be sweet.
* In ''Literature/TheDinosaurLords'', people of Nuevaropa see being nude in public not as funny or humiliating, but empowering. If a person appears in court or in front of a crowd naked, they show that they are honest in their beliefs and that it's their opponent who should feel ashamed.
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* A fantastic variation on ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}''. Since gargoyles raise their young communally and Goliath is a traditionalist, his attitudes about parenting and children are different from the humans around him. He's willing to accept [[EvilTwin Thailog]] since he's only one of three fathers, but has trouble with his biological daughter Angela since she insists that he is her only father.
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*** The (hilarious) reason no one eats Galapagos tortoises today is explained in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPggB4MfPnk this clip]] from the British comedy panel quiz show ''Series/{{QI}}''.
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* ''ComicBook/SandmanMysteryTheatre'' actually dealt with the racism and sexism prevalent in 30's and 40's, in sharp contrast to the colorful and nostalgic depictions of the GoldenAge seen in most DCComics publications.

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* ''ComicBook/SandmanMysteryTheatre'' actually dealt with the racism and sexism prevalent in 30's and 40's, in sharp contrast to the colorful and nostalgic depictions of the GoldenAge seen in most DCComics Creator/DCComics publications.
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