History Fridge / FireEmblemAwakening

** The Awakening based DLC in the Gaiden remake has an explaination: [[spoiler:It was an artificially made "dragon" from the mix of human blood/etc and dragon bits by a mad alchemist who also made the predecessors to the Risen. He did realize Grima was too horribly but too late.]]

* In the BadFuture ([[FromBadToWorse and its even worse counterpart "The Future Past"]]), humanity has been overrun/wiped out by [[ZombieApocalypse Risen]] and [[spoiler:''[[GodOfEvil Grima]]]]''. The thing is, the future kids and Naga only explicitly mention Ylisse (and Valm by extension). This is natural as the game focuses purely on those two continents. But ''they are not the only continents to get hit with this with something like '''[[spoiler:[[KillEmAll Grima]]]]''' free and about''. That means that ''the entire [[CrapsackWorld world]]'' (including the continents of Archanea, Jugdral, Elibe, Magvel and Tellius) ''has gone to [[DeathWorld hell]].''

* In the BadFuture ([[FromBadToWorse and its even worse counterpart "The Future Past"]]), humanity has been overrun/wiped out by [[ZombieApocalypse Risen]] and [[spoiler:''[[GodOfEvil Grima]]]]''. The thing is, the future kids and Naga only explicitly mention Ylisse (and Valm by extension). This is natural as the game focuses purely on those two continents. But ''they are not the only continents to get hit with this with something like '''[[spoiler:[[KillEmAll Grima]]]]''' free and about''. That means that ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia the]] [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral entire]] [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe world]] [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones has]] [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius gone]] [[CrapsackWorld to]] [[DeathWorld hell]].''

** Another example. Marth and Roy weren't originally intended to be released in Non-Japanese versions of ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosMelee''. Their inclusion in overseas releases brought up a large awareness of the Fire Emblem Series which hasn't been released overseas up until that point, as well as the popularity of the series skyrocketing to absurd degrees. The Fire Emblem series was so popular that when Fire Emblem Awakening became available for American fans, ''sales in America alone '''almost''' hit the mark that the developers were aiming for.'' Think about this for a second: if Marth and Roy had not made it overseas, the series most likely would remain obscure to anyone not Japanese, the series would still remain exclusive to Japan, Ike would probably not make it overseas in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'' making Fire Emblem even ''more'' popular, and if Shadow Dragon and New Mystery of the Emblem are any indication, ''Fire Emblem Awakening '''would''' have been the last game, or even worse the series could have ended '''prematurely.''''' VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones was largely unpopular due to its rather easy difficulty, VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius was unpopular in Japan for largely vague reasons, and the VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia remakes sold poorly for being nearly exact to the originals (which are considered inferior) and New Mystery didn't even make it overseas. ''Fire Emblem may have ended with either one of the remakes, Tellius, or the Sacred Stones.''

** Looked at from another angle, it's possible that, because her opinion of herself is so low, [[NotgoodWithPeople she can't muster up the confidence]] [[ShrinkingViolet to approach many people]], always wondering if they saw her as [[TheLoad a load to be carried]]. [[InsecureLoveInterest Add any prospect romantic feelings to the mix...]].

*** Tiki's dialogue upon encountering one of the Deadlords implies that they may have been ''[[spoiler:[[{{LegacyCharacter}} Marth]]]]''. She never said whether they died in peace or not....and worse, if ''[[spoiler:Marth]]'' is in there [[spoiler:and if the theory of the Future Past Deadlords is true]], ''[[spoiler:what other past game [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia pro]][[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral ta]][[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe go]][[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones ni]][[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius sts]] could've been [[ReforgedIntoAMinion converted]] [[CameBackWrong into them?]]]]''

* Why does Anna have less support conversations than the other characters? The only characters she can support with are the Avatar and Tiki. The Avatar system was previously used in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysterOfTheEmblem New Mystery of the Emblem]]'', while Tiki appeared in the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia first/eleventh and third/twelfth]] games. In other words, the only characters Anna can support with, are characters who have appeared multiple times throughout the series like her.

* The use of "dastard" could actually be a ShoutOut to the ''VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral'' translation and the memetic line "Alvis you dastard!"

** Ricken and Panne: Ricken is said to be [[FriendtoAllLivingThings "loved by animals"]]. Panne is a Taguel, meaning she's part-animal of sorts.

* Stahl and Sully's supports feature Sully pushing Stahl to be [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia the Abel to her Cain,]] who are nicknamed Panther and Bull, respectively. What's confusing about this is that Sully's growth rates are geared toward speed, and Stahl's growth rates are geared toward power, so it's more likely that Sully will end up resembling a sleek, agile panther, and Stahl a hardy, powerful bull. Until you realize that ''The Bull'' Cain does specialize in speed to ''The Panther'' Abel's strength.

* Another meta one. The character you win from Smash Brethren 3 is [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Lyn]], who thinks [[PlayerCharacter the Avatar]] resembles [[PlayerCharacter her own tactician]]. Through creative responses, you can convince Lyn that you are indeed that her dear friend, implying that Robin is a descendant or a reincarnation of her old friend... But who says she was talking to the Avatar? Lyn was talking directly to you, the player, the comrade that led her friends to victory and the salvation of the world. She tearfully remembers you as her old friend because, as a player of her game, you DO know her story, and you are that friend, and she's glad to fight by your side again. [[TearJerker Something caught in my eye]].

** Then there's the weddings, imagine if Future Severa gets married to Future Inigo, baby Severa and baby Inigo will grow up knowing each other and seeing themselves married, wouldn't they feel pressured to get together themselves when the time comes? Would that push them together or drive them apart in an attempt to declare individuality? And if they do get together, would their children be identical to the ones from their future selves? If they don't get together, wouldn't they feel like they're denying life to the present version of that offspring? And let's not even get started on ''a future child marrying the Avatar, [[UpToEleven or even worse]], a '''third generation Morgan marrying a second generation character''' ''. I see a whole new spectrum of psychological and emotional issues just waiting to happen...no seriously don't; a horribly tangled mess is [[YouCannotFightFate DESTINED]] to ensue and severe mind-fucking awaits situations like this so don't even try to look deeper into this. You will be confused and Fridge Horrored shitless.

* In the BadFuture ([[FromBadToWorse and its]] [[UpToEleven even worse counterpart "The Future Past"]]), humanity has been overrun/wiped out by [[ZombieApocalypse Risen]] and [[spoiler:''[[GodOfEvil Grima]]]]''. The thing is, the future kids and Naga only explicitly mention Ylisse (and Valm by extension). This is natural as the game focuses purely on those two continents. But ''they are not the only continents to get hit with this with something like '''[[spoiler:[[KillEmAll Grima]]]]''' free and about''. That means that ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia the]] [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral entire]] [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe world]] [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones has]] [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius gone]] [[CrapsackWorld to]] [[DeathWorld hell]].''

** Brady and Severa: They theorize that neither of them fits too well with the group, so they try to make their own "group" (the infamous [[Radar/FireEmblem "S & B Society"]]) to protect themselves. Then Severa admits it was just an excuse to be closer to Brady, implying that [[ChildhoodFriendRomance she may have liked him from before]].

* The horde of [[spoiler:Grimleal members]] who [[spoiler:gathered at the Dragon's Table to welcome Grima's resurrection probably all ended up as dragon chow.]] That might not give one pause at first, given that they were [[spoiler:cheering on the return of an [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abomination]]]], but remember that [[spoiler:the Grimleal was a cult, and its members may not have necessarily joined or stayed in it willingly (Robin was apparently the fourth generation born into it on their paternal side).]]

* [[WalkingSpoiler Aversa]] [[spoiler:turns out to have {{Fake Memories}} given to her by Validar so that she can serve him, and just like the other spotpass former villains before her we never find this out or anything remotely sympathetic about her until her recruitment chapter]]. Now Validar has never shown any sympathetic traits throughout the entire time he was alive as with the other major villains before him, but considering what kind of organization the [[ReligionOfEvil Grimleal]] is, it's safe to say that he might have undergone similar events; even worse, he himself outright states that [[spoiler:he's a failed Grima vessel which undoubtedly means mental manipulation]] and he and the vast majority of Grimleal [[EvilCannotComprehendGood cannot seem to grasp the concept of good...]]Considering that he's an expy of Gharnef [[spoiler:who was corrupted by Imhullu leading to his wickedness]] and [[spoiler:Nergal who ended up losing his memories for diving into Dark Magic too much]], it's safe to say that he probably wasn't always this way...all the more reason to stop the Grimleal.

** It's probably also worth noting that there is no Christianity in Fire Emblem. We all know this, do we not?
* It's not hard to imagine that [[TheTheocracy Plegia]] is Fire Emblem Awakening's [[TheEmpire Grado]]. Given what they do in their respective games, the utter mess they both go through [[spoiler:and the implications of Grado's fate in the ending of The Sacred Stones]], chances are [[spoiler:Plegia's going to end up just like it]]...and if [[spoiler:the earthquake that destroyed Grado truly was divine retribution]], chances are Plegia [[spoiler:''will'' be destroyed if the heavens are none too merciful]]...

* Why did the pegasus freak out so badly, aside from the fact that it was injured? In the Fire Emblem series, males simply ''can't'' approach or ride pegasi (Think of the myths about unicorns only being able to approach women.) This is also why Henry switches bodies with Sumia to ride hers, instead of simply asking her for permission.
** That however does not explain why there were MALE Pegasus Knights (albeit enemies) in the third Fire Emblem game. This would suggest that classes that are supposedly sex restricted may actually have an EXTREMELY low number of opposite sex members (like the Mercenary class for example) considering some of the specifics of certain classes which often include certain attire; imagine the fans reactions upon seeing a female Berserker or a male Dancer. Hercules himself had a Pegasus, so why can't the guys get one? They're not unicorns.
*** That game and this one are eighteen years apart. Fire Emblem's changed a few things since then.

** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon]]

** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem]]

** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]

** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade]]

** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword]]

** VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones

** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance]]

* Why does Anna have less support conversations than the other characters? The only characters she can support with are the Avatar and Tiki. The Avatar system was previously used in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia New Mystery of the Emblem]]'', while Tiki appeared in the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia first/eleventh and third/twelfth]] games. In other words, the only characters Anna can support with, are characters who have appeared multiple times throughout the series like her.

* The use of "dastard" could actually be a ShoutOut to the VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral translation and the memetic line "Alvis you dastard!"

*** ButWaitTheresMore Henry's supports with Ricken and the second Drama CD state that [[spoiler: he had an OddFriendship with Mustafa aka the boss of Chapter 10, who treated him like a second son of sorts. What was Mustafa's class? '''Berserker'''. It's not unlikely that Henry wanted to honor [[BecauseyouWereniceToMe one of the people who treated him well]] in the Plegian military.]]

** Why does the Wyvern Rider Cherche have the Troubadour and Cleric lines? She was originally training to be a cleric before she met Minerva. And she tamed minerva via, among other things, ''repeteadly whacking her with her staff''.

* Why is it that the {{Bad Future}} is averted, despite [[spoiler:Emmeryn dying?]] It's because [[spoiler: she never really died, because the assassination attempt failed, and she only sustained memory loss (albeit very severe loss) from her fall.]] So although Marth was slightly correct, the bad future wasn't really that close as they thought.

** [[spoiler:Emmeryn is stated to be the hardest to kill in the army and that Gangrel is severely afraid of heights]] in their respective Roster descriptions. When you put that into the context of what happened back in [[spoiler: [[WhamEpisode Chapter 9]]]], it becomes darkly funny when you realize that [[spoiler:[[XanatosGambit she most likely knew that she wasn't going to die since Gangrel was too pansy to go up there and kill her himself and planned her pseudo-HeroicSuicide to get the war to stop and by extension prevent the Bad Future if she knew of it]].]] This would explain why [[spoiler: [[NotQuiteDead she didn't die.]]]] ''She pulled off a CrazyIsCool, {{Crazy Prepared}} {{Out Gambit}} to end the Mad King's war and stave off the {{Bad Future}}! Holy Shit [[spoiler:[[BigGood Em]][[GuileHero me]][[MagnificentBitch eryn]]]]!''

* Smash Bretheren 3 takes place at the Dragon's Gate from ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Blazing Sword]]'', which is essentially Elibe's version of the Outrealm Gate (though it was much more plot-important at the time). If any of the old games' maps were to be remade for a [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny battle between the champions of different realms]], it would be the Dragon's Gate.

* The Strongest One's Name had it's name changed to Apotheosis in North America, which doesn't make sense until you look it up. Here's the main definition for Apotheosis: the elevation or exaltation of a person to the rank of a god. The name change suddenly makes a lot of sense and becomes far more fitting, considering that the enemies have stats that eclipse even [[spoiler:''Grima'']], possibly even on Lunatic+ mode. What's even more, it's stated that the warriors you face there are heroes who became too powerful and eventually ended up there for a challenge. When you look at this from a gameplay point of view, you and the Shepherds are heroes and depending on when you finally decide to go to Castle Apotheosis, you'll most likely have capped out stats and [[GameBreaker Limit Break]] equipped, with superior skills equipped on each of your characters. The warriors you face are probably meant to represent some incarnation of the Shepherds who have reached the castle, and considering that the Outrealm gate is a gateway that crosses between time and space, the warriors probably ''are'' the Shepherds who decided to stay there.
** Why is [[ItsEasySoItSucks Sacred Stones]] - the least difficult game in the franchise - the game whose music is used for [[NintendoHard Apotheosis]] - the single most difficult challenge in the franchise? Sacred Stones is not just remembered for being ridiculously easy, it's also remembered for having ''the most {{Brutal Bonus Level}} in the series'', more specifically ''the Lagdou Ruins''. The overworld music used in Apotheosis (Confront the Past) is also used in Lagdou Ruins as the overworld theme, and the battle theme (The Battle Must be Won) is a ''boss theme'' that tells you that ''you're not even fighting enemies anymore''. Some people have taken these as some sort of sign that ''you'' '' '''ARE''' '' ''in Lagdou Ruins...''

* There are some complaints about [[spoiler: Say'ri and a recruited Yen'fay]] not being able to support. However, it makes sense: [[spoiler: the Yen'fay you recruit is '''not''' the one you fought, but the one from the Bad Future. [[FailureKnight A Yen'fay who couldn't save his younger sister or his kingdom]], thus likely believes [[ItsnotyouItsMe he's not worthy of Say'ri's sisterly affection]]. He's surely aware that he'll have to say "ButNowIMustGo" at some point (and he does, unless he married girl!Avatar), so he doesn't want to emotionally attach himself to the sister of the person whose place he's sorta taking.]]

** You can apply the same logic to Chrom's small marriage pool, too (Not counting Generic Village Maiden here). Sumia has known him for a while and is a member of the Shepherds, as mentioned above. Sully is also a Shepherd, and her and Chrom's A-support makes it clear that the two of them were [[ChildhoodFriends friends from childhood]]. Maribelle is the dearest friend of Chrom's little sister, meaning the two are probably at least passingly familiar with each other through Lissa. So far, three out of five of his potential wives are people he's known in the past. Robin and Chrom formed a bond right from the beginning and are best friends who are usually on the same wavelength (and as mentioned in Sumia's entry, Robin is an AllLovingHero. Or {{All Loving Hero}}ine in her case). Olivia is the only odd one of the bunch, but even she makes sense: some of Chrom's other supports show that he can be [[NosocialSkills completely awkward when it comes to relationships and social graces]]. [[BirdsOfAFeather Who else could sympathize more with this]] [[ShrinkingViolet than the perpetually-shy Olivia?]] (Even more so when you consider that Olivia uses a similar reasoning to tell the also socially-awkward Lon'qu that they belong together).
* Also, Sumia's BaseBreakingCharacter nature is easy to put on perspective... Remember, many of the people who play this game are teenagers/young adults, [[OldShame who either are or used to be pretty awkward themselves]]. Seeing a character who is very clumsy and self-loathing [[ThisLoserIsYou might hit a bit TOO close to home for comfort]], and it's even worse with the huge {{double standard}}s in society about women: fictional and/or real women must be flawless, always self-reliant and adhering to "traditionally masculine" attitudes, [[WhatmeasureIsANonBadass otherwise they aren't "good and worthy enough"]]. It can potentially explain why more self-assured female characters like Sully, Cordelia or female!Avatar are held up as "strong female charas" in the West AND are also used to bash Sumia herself, despite how in-story they're very kind to her (and girl!Avatar actually tries to help Sumia with her issues, just like boy!Avatar does): the members of that specific fandom fringe may attempt to cover up ''how they see Sumia as a reminder of the kind of persons they either used to be or still are'' and bash the crap out of her to hide how they see their old insecurities in her, while latching on "strong female characters" that are the opposite -- also in an attempt to forget about their own issues on women as a whole.

** Inigo and Cynthia: Cynthia straight up admits that [[ChildhoodFriendromance she has liked Inigo from years before]] in their S support.

** Brady and Severa: They theorize that neither of them fits too well with the group, so they try to make their own "group" (the infamous [[Radar/FireEmblem "S & B Society]]) to protect themselves. Then Severa admits it was just an excuse to be closer to Brady, implying that [[ChildhoodFriendRomance she may have liked him from before]].

** On the other hand, all of the other child characters (except Owain) are orphans, so when they went back in time, they left no family behind. We don't know if that's true for Morgan, so if their future wasn't that bad, then there's probably another version of the Avatar and their spouse out there whose child [[AdultFear mysteriously vanished one day and never came back]].

** This brings up another bit of FridgeLogic. Characters inherit hair color from their fathers. Emmeryn and Lissa are blonde. Chrom...[[YouGottaHaveBlueHair isn't]]. Are we sure it's ''Lissa'' who has to worry about legitimacy?

** Chrom's not the only ''Fire Emblem'' hero [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair with blue hair]], so that color might just be popular in-universe. That would justify any of the other [[spoiler: future kids]] using the hair dye if they won the popularity contest, instead.

** You can apply the same logic to Chrom's small marriage pool, too (Not counting Generic Village Maiden here). Sumia has known him for a while and is a member of the Shepherds, as mentioned above. Sully is also a Shepherd, and her and Chrom's A-support makes it clear that the two of them were [[ChildhoodFriends friends from childhood]]. Maribelle is the dearest friend of Chrom's little sister, meaning the two are probably at least passingly familiar with each other through Lissa. So far, three out of five of his potential wives are people he's known in the past. Robin and Chrom formed a bond right from the beginning and are best friends who are usually on the same wavelength (and as mentioned in Sumia's entry, Robin is an AllLovingHero. Or {{All Loving Hero}}ine in her case). Olivia is the only odd one of the bunch, but even she makes sense: some of Chrom's other supports show that he can be [[NosocialSkills completely awkward when it comes to relationships and social graces]]. [[BirdsOfAFeather Who else could sympathize more with this]] [[ShrinkingViolet than the perpetually-shy Olivia?]] (Even more so when you consider that Olivia uses a similar reasoning to tell the also socially-awkward Lon'qu [[NotSoDifferent that they belong together]]).

** [[spoiler:Emmeryn is stated to be the hardest to kill in the army and that Gangrel is severely afraid of heights]] in their respective Roster descriptions. When you put that into the context of what happened back in [[spoiler: [[WhamEpisode Chapter 9]]]], it becomes darkly funny when you realize that [[spoiler:[[XanatosGambit she most likely knew that she wasn't going to die since Gangrel was too pansy to go up there and kill her himself and planned her pseudo-HeroicSuicide to get the war to stop and by extension prevent the Bad Future if she knew of it]].]] This would explain why [[spoiler: [[NotQuiteDead she didn't die.]]]] ''She pulled off a {{Crazy Awesome}}, {{Crazy Prepared}} {{Out Gambit}} to end the Mad King's war and stave off the {{Bad Future}}! Holy Shit [[spoiler:[[BigGood Em]][[GuileHero me]][[MagnificentBitch eryn]]]]!''

** Would ''you'' give up an ancestral weapon that's incredibly powerful, and has its own story? That'd be like KingArthur tossing away Caliburn (the Sword in the Stone) immediately upon pulling it out, or getting rid of Excalibur.

*** In Chapter 9, why didn't [[spoiler: Aversa]] simply sweep the whole party? [[spoiler: It's because she needed them to collect the Fire Emblem for Grima.]]

* In Cynthia's paralogue, a bandit by the name of Ruger has been impersonating Chrom, despite apparently looking nothing like him, and despite the fact Chrom is one of the few possible fathers for Cynthia. Looks to be [[YouKeepUsingThatWord inconceivable]] -- until you realize that bandits tend to [[YouAllLookFamiliar re-use portraits]]. Ruger's portrait is the same as Gecko's, and since they clearly don't look the same in-universe, it's possible that Ruger might actually look a lot more like Chrom.

** No, after scientific and psychological advances, the Catholic Church changed its position. This was never a theological certainty to begin with, but many people believing it to be true, and many have tried to say it was a theological certainty, but it never was.
*** It's probably also worth noting that there is no Christianity in Fire Emblem. We all know this, do we not?

** This troper always interpreted that as Maribelle having [[BiTheWay made use of the services in question herself at some point...]]

** Isn't there dialogue between some of the Future Children talking about how some of their age differences post-time travel aren't the same as when they left? Lucina is the oldest in their timeline but when they all come together in the past Gerome is older than her now.

* * HilariousInHindsight: Laurent is often criticised for being a male version of his mother, Miriel. And what doesn't help is the fact, that ALL of his Critical/Skill Activation quotes in the Japanese version are the exact same lines as hers.

** Also: [[spoiler:Morgan's amnesia is suspiciously similar to the Avatar's, with the only difference being that the former remembers all the time they spent with the latter (i.e. all the time s/he spent with Grima's human form). It's [[WildMassGuessing possible]] that Grima ''did'' try to possess Morgan in some other timeline, but failed because of Morgan's mixed heritage, leaving him/her with only memories connected to Grima, or by proxy, the Avatar.]]

* If [[spoiler:the Avatar]] is close enough to being Grima for [[spoiler:him/her killing Grima to count as Grima being killed by it's own power]] to meet the conditions for Grima to die permanently, why isn't the opposite true? [[spoiler:Shouldn't Grima killing another part of itself kill it?]]

** That, or the explanation is similar to [[spoiler:how Voldemort is defeated. The mark of Grima disappears from Robin's hand, so the Grima-related parts of Robin's heritage were killed off, but not technically Robin him/herself]].

* Morgan when a Child Character is his/her mother/father... Seems well enough, until you think about it... [[spoiler:The Children are ALL [[TimeTravelEscape fleeing a definite]] BadFuture. You just married one of said time travelers and oh, you seemingly have secured the fate of the world, right? Well... why did you just meet your son/daughter, who is fleeing the same disaster? /shudder]] The fact that [[NoodleIncident the game doesn't answer any of that, and Morgan's supports are generic]], does not help.
** This is explained by the fact [[spoiler:that the children are not only from the BadFuture, but also from an AlternateUniverse. So in one AU, MU did indeed father/mother his/her children before getting possessed by Grima.]]
*** That only explains Morgan's existence. MU had his/her children before [[spoiler: Getting Possessed by Grima]]. However, when Morgan is say, the daughter of Lucina... [[spoiler: [[DoomedByCanon the cycle had]] [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption to have happened again]]-- at least one time where Lucina went back to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, fell in love with MU, but MU STILL got Possessed by Grima, Killed Chrom, and set forth the BadFuture AGAIN.]]
*** Considering that it is possible for Morgan's other parent to be anyone from [[spoiler:the children generation, the only time they would be around the same age as Robin to fall in love and have a baby Morgan would be when they work together as shepherds.]] Or Robin could have waited for one of his/her [[spoiler: comrade's children]] to grow up and fall in love with them. Which is not so great either. Either way, this pairing leads credence to the possibility that Morgan might come [[spoiler: from the game's newly created future]].

** On the other hand, all of the other child characters (except Owain) are orphans, so when they went back in time, they left no family behind. We don't know if that's true for Morgan, so if their future wasn't that bad, then there's probably another version of the Avatar and his/her spouse out there whose child [[AdultFear mysteriously vanished one day and never came back]].

* The horde of [[spoiler:Grimleal members]] who [[spoiler:gathered at the Dragon's Table to welcome Grima's resurrection probably all ended up as dragon chow.]] That might not give one pause at first, given that they were [[spoiler:cheering on the return of an [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abomination]]]], but remember that [[spoiler:the Grimleal was a cult, and its members may not have necessarily joined or stayed in it willingly (Robin was apparently the fourth generation born into it on his/her paternal side).]]

* Considering how the Grimleal aren't always in it by choice, and how the Avatar's mother runs away with him/her to get them away from the cult, it's entirely possible that the mother was forced into the Grimleal and then to give birth to the Avatar.

* In the Future Past world, there are two Morgans, of both genders, and the game doesn't tell you what their names are. Why did you only find and recruit one Morgan? Why would only one of them go back in time? Morgan's twin brother or sister might still be wandering around with amnesia because you never found him/her, and Morgan doesn't remember him/her.

* While [[spoiler: Robin managing to wrest control back from Grima]] in ''The Future Past 3'' is [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome awesome]], it still raises some rather... [[AndIMustScream disturbing implications]] about how things must have been for him/her this entire time. It also questions what exactly happened to Robin in the original timeline, since nothing like this ever happens with the "original" Robin. [[spoiler: Does their original mind exist at all and Grima just got better at controlling them, or is Robin's original consciousness [[CessationOfExistence completely gone]]?]]

* Why is the Avatar so powerful? [[spoiler:Well, he/she was specifically bred to be Grima's host, so it makes sense that they'd try to make him/her "perfect."]]

*** Lyn's team consists of two Paladins, a Falcon Knight, a Sniper, a Warrior, a Bow Knight, a Trickster, a War Monk, and a General. These are essentially the promoted classes of Lyn's Legion, namely: Kent, Sain, Florina, Will, Dorcas, Rath, Matthew, Lucius, and Wallace. The team is even arranged in order of recruitment. The only one missing from the roster is [[TheStrategist Mark]]... unless you consider him/her and the Avatar to be [[CanonWelding the same person.]]

** Morgan's got amnesia and many not even come from the same timeline (though personally I think so since any sibling supports mention that they remember Morgan), so s/he doesn't apply here.
*** According to the Future of Despair DLC though, they have it just as bad, or even worse than the other children. [[spoiler: Their devotion to their Avatar parent is twisted into denial of their his/her "death" by Grima's possession, thus serving Grima in place of him/her. They are both paranoid and unshakably loyal, a frightening take on their clever and affectionate nature in the actual storyline.]]

* In regards to how Grima comes off as such a GenericDoomsdayVillain even compared to Medeus, what about that? Well think about it, it was established in the Archaneia games that the Earth Dragons besides Medeus degenerated and attacked humanity. Later in Mystery of the Emblem and it's remake, Medeus claims in his death speech that if the Binding Shield is broken, the Earth Dragons would return. Now let's look at Grima, the dragon has dozens of eyes on his/her/it's body, was said in the Knights of Iris book to be descended from the Earth Dragons, and the shield and altar where the Earth Dragons were sealed have different functions in Awakening. Perhaps some point before Awakening, the Earth Dragons fused together into the dragon that is known as Grima, who went and terrorized humanity until being defeated by the efforts of the First Exalt, Naga, and others. However this raises the question of how the Earth Dragons would gain the ability to fuse, or why it would be capable of sentience.

* In The Future Past 3, as [[spoiler: Lucina prepares to strike down Grima, his/her sprite turns from an Enemy Unit to an Other Unit, signifying that in their last moments, [[DyingAsYourself the Avatar resumed control]].]]

** This theory actually fails to address why Henry, who ALSO is Plegian and with some screws loose (and a Dark Mage like Tharja), does '''not''' develop similar patterns towards the Avatar. [[spoiler: The case of the also Plegian Gangrel's a bit more understandable, as he plainly states that ''he'' isn't a Grima worshipper.]] Also, Tharja can ''marry'' the Male Avatar; making her '''solely''' obsessed with [[spoiler: the Grima within him]] would make few sense, as such a deal wouldn't be enough to make her start ''and'' sustain a relationship with him. (It ''could'' be that she ''started'' obsessed with [[spoiler: the Grima power coming from the Avatar]], but later she came to love his actual person in her own {{yandere}} way. Or, if she marries someone else than the Avatar, she keeps at least a part of these sincere but twisted feelings for his/her actual self.)

* In her B-support with the Avatar, Tharja presents him/her with a slice of liver-and-eel pie, which she states to be the Avatar's favorite. While this could just be evidence of her unhealthy obsession over the Avatar, the Avatar's taste for such a... curious dish could stem from [[spoiler: his/her Plegian birth.]]

** [[spoiler:Morgan is the boss of the first two Future of Despair chapters. Clearly, the Morgan in the bad future is DaddysLittleVillain and left their sibling behind.]]

* The world map of Awakening is clearly the same world as [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia the Akaneia games]], which leads to a few moments of FridgeHorror. Mainly, [[ReligionOfEvil Plegia's]] territory consists of what used to be Macedon, Dolhr, Grust... and ''Altea.'' Worse, the two areas you visit closest to Altea are ''[[DeathWorld a desert and a barren wasteland.]]'' Sure 2000 years have passed since Marth's time, but something ''horrible'' must have happened to his former homeland at some point. Good thing he moved to Akaneia palace!
** During the events of [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Mystery of the Emblem]], [[spoiler:Hardin destroyed Altea]], which is why when [[spoiler:Marth becomes the emperor of Archanea]], he moves to its palace. One can only imagine what else may have happened afterwards, though.

** Roy being a Mercenary? Sword using Lord that never got promoted to something with Armor or Horses and possibly the fact his promotion was highly ineffectual. hence why he's a unpromoted class. His Spotpast class is Hero, a promoted version. Male sword Lords also tend to have balanced stats like Mercenaries.
** Eirika being a Bride? Perhaps referencing all the shared supports she had in her game, several of them ending in marriage. (Seth, Forde, Innes and Saleh in the romantic way; Tana and Ephraim in the platonic/ {{ship tease}}y one). Her spotpass class, Myrmidon, references both her growths in the game and how Myrmidon is the class that fits the closest to Eirika's unpromoted Lord one.

* In regards to how Grima comes off as such a GenericDoomsdayVillain even compared to Medeus, what about that? Well think about it, it was established in the Archaneia games that the Earth Dragons besides Medeus degenerated and attacked humanity. Later in Mystery of the Emblem and it's remake, Medeus claims in his death speech that if the Binding Shield is broken, the Earth Dragons would return. Now let's look at Grima, the dragon has dozens of eyes on his/her/it's body, was said in the Knights of Iris book to be descended from the Earth Dragons, and the shield and altar where the Earth Dragons were sealed have different functions in Awakening. Perhaps some point before Awakening, the Earth Dragons fused together into the dragon that is known as Grima, who went and terrorized humanity until being defeated by the efforts of the First Exalt, Naga, and others. However this raises the question of how the Earth Dragons would gain the ability to fuse, or why it would be capable of sentience

* While [[spoiler: Robin managing to wrest control back from Grima]] in ''The Future Past 3'' is [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]], it still raises some rather... [[AndIMustScream disturbing implications]] about how things must have been for him/her this entire time. It also questions what exactly happened to Robin in the original timeline, since nothing like this ever happens with the "original" Robin. [[spoiler: Does their original mind exist at all and Grima just got better at controlling them, or is Robin's original consciousness [[CessationOfExistence completely gone]]?]]

** It can potentially go into [[FridgeHorror very creepy extremes]] when we add Noire to the mix. She's quite popular with the fans, yeah, but lots of this crosses into [[TheWoobie protectiveness of her]] because of [[spoiler: Tharja's HORRIBLY and MASSIVELY flawed parenting in the BadFuture.]] When you look at it closely, it's easy to see that some of these fans '''don't''' actually like Noire for her own and [[HiddenDepths surprisingly complex]] character, but because it's VERY easy for them to use the poor girl to pour their [[spoiler: "Daddy/Mommy Issues"]] on, [[NeverLiveItDown ignoring or handwaving how Noire's personality as a whole is not COMPLETELY based on them]] (i.e., for all her LovableCoward tendences, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome she tells Yarne that she doesn't judge him for his cowardice AND promises to protect him]], [[CharacterDevelopment which actually encourages Yarne to do his best from then on.]]) This "Noire love", then, is '''''NOT''''' based on actual appreciation of her character, but on these "fans" projecting their RealLife issues on her -- issues that are likely serious enough to need adequate and intensive psychological help, instead of having these 'stans' pouring their mental/emotional problems on Noire's character.

* Tharja is from Plegia, a nation that reveres the dark dragon Grima. When recruited you find that she develops an [[{{Yandere}} unhealthy obsession with your avatar]], who is later revealed as [[spoiler:being raised to be the perfect vessel for Grima.]] And seeing as how she stalks you even if you are female, she may not even be attracted to your character but to [[spoiler:Grima itself!]] Considering that's she's also enamored with [[KingdomHearts THE DARKNESS]] as she points out in quite a few supports, she's probably not really attracted to the Avatar[[spoiler: or Grima]], just the DARKNESS inside of them.

** It can potentially go into [[FridgeHorror very creepy extremes]] when we add Noire to the mix. She's quite popular with the fans, yeah, but lots of this crosses into [[TheWoobie protectiveness of her]] because of [[spoiler: Tharja's HORRIBLY and MASSIVELY flawed parenting in the BadFuture.]] When you look at it closely, it's easy to see that some of these fans '''don't''' actually like Noire for her own and [[HiddenDepths surprisingly complex]] character, but because it's VERY easy for them to use the poor girl as a PossessionSue to pour their [[spoiler: "Daddy/Mommy Issues"]] on, [[NeverLiveItDown ignoring or handwaving how Noire's personality as a whole is not COMPLETELY based on them]] (i.e., for all her LovableCoward tendences, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome she tells Yarne that she doesn't judge him for his cowardice AND promises to protect him]], [[CharacterDevelopment which actually encourages Yarne to do his best from then on.]]) This "Noire love", then, is '''''NOT''''' based on actual appreciation of her character, but on these "fans" projecting their RealLife issues on her -- issues that are likely serious enough to need adequate and intensive psychological help, instead of having these 'stans' pouring their mental/emotional problems on Noire's character.