History Fanfic / TheConversionBureauTheOtherSideOfTheSpectrum

14th Jun '16 1:59:16 PM KizunaTallis
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** The ponification potion was created and used for "beneficial purposes" before Queen Celestia did away with the pretenses and began her conquest of Earth, but its creation required extensive experimentation. [[WordOfGod Redskin122004 explained]] that the Imperials picked off humans from poor areas all across the world over a long period of time to avoid detection while acquiring test subjects.
14th Jun '16 10:39:26 AM dlchen145
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* KillThePoor:
** Chapter 11 reveals that the PER kidnapped homeless people across the US and ponified them to assist in attacking Washington DC.
** The ponification potion was created and used for "beneficial purposes" before Celestia began her conquest of Earth, but its creation required extensive experimentation. [[WordOfGod Redskin122004 explained]] that Celestia picked off humans from poor areas across the world over a long period of time to avoid detection while acquiring test subjects.
14th Jun '16 10:32:28 AM dlchen145
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* DisposableVagrant:
** Chapter 11 reveals that the PER kidnapped homeless people across the US and ponified them to assist in attacking Washington DC.
14th Jun '16 8:21:10 AM DialgaX
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* '''From the Early Days of War'''

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* '''From !!!'''From the Early Days of War'''



* !!!'''Stardust'''

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* '''Voices of Mankind'''

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* '''Voices !!!'''Voices of Mankind'''



* '''Reports in Wartime'''

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* '''Reports !!!'''Reports in Wartime'''



* '''Countdown to the Final Battle'''

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* '''Countdown !!!'''Countdown to the Final Battle'''
14th Jun '16 8:19:44 AM DialgaX
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!!!'''From the Early Days of War'''

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!!!'''From * '''From the Early Days of War'''
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!!!'''Stardust'''

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!!!'''Voices of Mankind'''

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!!!'''Reports in Wartime'''

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!!!'''Reports * '''Reports in Wartime'''
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!!!'''Countdown to the Final Battle'''

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!!!'''Countdown * '''Countdown to the Final Battle'''
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14th Jun '16 8:15:01 AM DialgaX
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10th Jun '16 7:34:49 PM nombretomado
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** [[spoiler: Discord travels to the ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' universe, revealing the Veil to be a portal between worlds, befriends Sirius Black, and taunts Voldemort. He then goes on to visit [[SamuraiJack Samurai Jack's universe]] and is forced to rethink his position on the ponies' progress and realize his own role in what he accused Prime!Equestria of [[MedievalStasis turning]] [[SugarBowl into]], as well as the fact that Celestia and Luna took power because of his carelessness in the first place]].

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** [[spoiler: Discord travels to the ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' universe, revealing the Veil to be a portal between worlds, befriends Sirius Black, and taunts Voldemort. He then goes on to visit [[SamuraiJack [[WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack Samurai Jack's universe]] and is forced to rethink his position on the ponies' progress and realize his own role in what he accused Prime!Equestria of [[MedievalStasis turning]] [[SugarBowl into]], as well as the fact that Celestia and Luna took power because of his carelessness in the first place]].
30th Apr '16 11:43:35 AM Josef5678
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* CelebritySurvivor: Amongst the ponies of the PHL, Vinyl Scratch (aka DJ Pon3) seems to be a high-ranking member, Sapphire Shores uses her singing voice to raise morale amongst the troops, and Photo Finish is in charge of creating pro-human propaganda to spread throughout TCB!Equestria.

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* CelebritySurvivor: Amongst the ponies of the PHL, Vinyl Scratch (aka DJ Pon3) DJ-[=Pon3=]) seems to be a high-ranking member, Sapphire Shores uses her singing voice to raise morale amongst the troops, and Photo Finish is in charge of creating pro-human propaganda to spread throughout TCB!Equestria.



* CelebritySurvivor: Amongst the ponies of the PHL, Vinyl Scratch (aka DJ Pon3) seems to be a high-ranking member, Sapphire Shores uses her singing voice to raise morale amongst the troops, and Photo Finish is in charge of creating pro-human propaganda to spread throughout TCB!Equestria.

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* CelebritySurvivor: Amongst the ponies of the PHL, Vinyl Scratch (aka DJ Pon3) DJ-[=Pon3=]) seems to be a high-ranking member, Sapphire Shores uses her singing voice to raise morale amongst the troops, and Photo Finish is in charge of creating pro-human propaganda to spread throughout TCB!Equestria.
1st Apr '16 5:13:30 PM KizunaTallis
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* DeconstructionFic: Remember how Earth is always written as a StrawDystopia in Chatoyance's stories? Here, Earth becomes a dystopia precisely because of the Barrier and TCB!Equestria's actions.

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* DeconstructionFic: Remember how Earth is always written as a StrawDystopia in Chatoyance's stories? Here, Earth becomes a dystopia precisely because ''because'' of the Barrier and TCB!Equestria's actions.



** The chapter "For Whom The Bell Tolls" deconstructs another thing usually glossed over in other TCB fics - the creation and the testing of the potion itself. Let's just say [[spoiler:there's a ''very'' good reason why the TCB!ponies are frequently compared to Nazis]].

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** The chapter "For Whom The Bell Tolls" deconstructs another thing something that is noticeably and usually glossed over in other TCB fics - the creation and the testing of the potion itself. Let's just say [[spoiler:there's a ''very'' good reason why the TCB!ponies are frequently compared to Nazis]].
21st Mar '16 10:32:22 PM KizunaTallis
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[[Fanfic/SpectrumFromTheEarlyDaysOfTheWar Read their tropes here.]]]

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[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/SpectrumStardust Read their tropes here.]]

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[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/SpectrumStardust [[Fanfic/SpectrumStardust Read their tropes here.]]



[[FanFic/SpectrumCountDownToTheFinalBattle Read their Tropes Here.]]

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** TCB!Lyra Heartstrings was this to Earth's people before her death, after which her position is taken over by Cheerilee (who, incidentally, shares Celestia's voice actress on the show). The story gives them both shining moments, with Lyra quoting Charlie Chaplin's speech from ''Film/TheGreatDictator'', and Cheerilee [[spoiler: getting to actually hold her own in a fight against the Tyrant]].

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** TCB!Lyra Heartstrings was this to the PHL and much of Earth's people before her death, after which her position is taken over by Cheerilee (who, incidentally, shares Celestia's voice actress on the show). The story gives them both shining moments, with Lyra quoting Charlie Chaplin's speech from ''Film/TheGreatDictator'', and Cheerilee [[spoiler: getting to actually hold her own in a fight against the Tyrant]].Tyrant]].
** To a lesser extent, President Jack Davis and King William are this to humanity.



* TheDreaded: [[spoiler:Tirek scares various characters, including Discord and dragon king Spykoran, [[MyLittlePonyTVSpecials who was Tirek's minion before siding with Megan Williams and the Dream Valley ponies]]]]

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* TheDreaded: [[spoiler:Tirek scares various characters, including Discord and dragon king Spykoran, [[MyLittlePonyTVSpecials who was Tirek's minion before siding with Megan Williams and the Dream Valley ponies]]]] ponies]]]].



** And then subverted in ''Calm before the Storm'', where we get a good look at the state of TCB!Equestria's economy. The mentioned potion vials are only available in masses due to newfoal slave labor. Otherwise, the laws of economy and logistics have hit them very hard.

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** And then subverted in ''Calm before Before the Storm'', where we get a good look at the state of TCB!Equestria's economy. The mentioned potion vials are only available in masses en masse due to newfoal slave labor. Otherwise, the laws of economy and logistics have hit them very hard.



** Queen Chrysalis balks at Shining Armor's accusation that she raped him while disguised as Cadance, and even seems [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil insulted that he would think such a thing]]. She still used her MindControl to her advantage, but not for that specifically. May also be a TakeThat to stories which actually have that happen. For her part, TCB!Chrysalis was disturbed to realize what Queen Celestia was up to, [[spoiler: though that may have been due to the Newfoals' tainted love, which fatally poisoned all Changelings who fed on it.]] It's safe to say that even the show's greatest villains think the Solar Tyrant is going too far. [[spoiler: With one exception the original nemesis, Tirek, is TheManBehindTheMan to Queen Celestia]].

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** Queen Chrysalis balks at Shining Armor's accusation that she raped him while disguised as Cadance, and even seems [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil insulted that he would think such a thing]]. She still used her MindControl to her advantage, but not for that specifically. May also be a TakeThat to stories which actually have that happen. For her part, TCB!Chrysalis was disturbed to realize what Queen Celestia was up to, [[spoiler: though that may have been due to the Newfoals' tainted love, which fatally poisoned all Changelings who fed on it.]] it]]. It's safe to say that even the show's greatest villains think the Solar Tyrant is going too far. [[spoiler: With one exception the original nemesis, Tirek, is TheManBehindTheMan to Queen Celestia]].



** The familiar Equestria ends up diverging from the show's prime in the main story's "Sons of Legacies" arc, [[spoiler: where the Princesses, Discord, Marcus and Stephan are the ones handling the return of the Crystal Empire while the Mane Six have to undergo training for the war]].

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** The familiar Equestria ends up diverging from the show's prime canon in the main story's "Sons of Legacies" arc, [[spoiler: where the Princesses, Discord, Marcus and Stephan are the ones handling the return of the Crystal Empire while the Mane Six have to undergo training for the war]].



** Technically, TCB!Twilight Sparkle and Stalwart Heart are such a pair, as Stalwart Heart was a human and Marcus's brother before getting ponified.

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** Technically, TCB!Twilight Sparkle and Stalwart Heart are such a pair, as Stalwart Heart was a human and Marcus's Marcus' brother before getting ponified.



* KillAllHumans: Guess whose plan that is. [[spoiler: No, it's not Queen Celestia's.[[MyLittlePonyTVSpecials It's Tirek's]]]].
* KineticWeaponsAreJustBetter: Played with. Human-made energy weapons ''do'' exist in the story, but of the two that appeared, one melted itself into oblivion, and the other one (A LightningGun mounted under Kraber's machine gun) was very effective. Judging by the fact that they've only appeared twice (while also being mentioned in Case Files) it seems that while they are possible thanks to magic and technological advantages, they're just harder to build than assault rifles and the like.

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* KillAllHumans: Guess whose plan that is. [[spoiler: No, it's not Queen Celestia's.[[MyLittlePonyTVSpecials [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTVSpecials It's Tirek's]]]].
* KineticWeaponsAreJustBetter: Played with. Human-made energy weapons ''do'' exist in the story, but of the two that appeared, one melted itself into oblivion, and the other one (A (a LightningGun mounted under Kraber's machine gun) was very effective. Judging by the fact that they've only appeared twice (while also being mentioned in Case Files) ''Case Files'') it seems that while they are possible thanks to magic and technological advantages, they're just harder to build than assault rifles and the like.



** While the PER generally are along the same wavelength as the Solar Empire, there is also a number of people that joined because they genuinely believe ponification is a second chance for them to get better lives.

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** While the PER generally are along the same wavelength as the Solar Empire, there is are also a number of people that joined because they genuinely believe ponification is a second chance for them to get better lives.



* ThisMeansWar: Humanity declares war on Queen Celestia after she forcibly ponifies a group of reporters at a press conference in Berne.

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* ThisMeansWar: Humanity declares war on Queen Celestia after she declares her intention to ponify all of humanity, starting with forcibly ponifies ponifying a group of reporters at a press conference in Berne.



* {{Troperiffic}}: The sheer volume of this page, the number of {{Shout Out}}s, and occasional {{Lampshade Hanging}}s is more than enough evidence of this. Considering a few of the co-writers are Tropers themselves, it's rather deliberate.

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* {{Troperiffic}}: The sheer volume of this page, the number of {{Shout Out}}s, and occasional {{Lampshade Hanging}}s is are more than enough evidence of this. Considering a few of the co-writers are Tropers themselves, it's rather deliberate.



* WarRefugees: The civilians that managed to escape their home countries and cities before they were overrun by the barrier, the ponies who defected from Queen Celestia, and [[spoiler: Chrysalis]] for awhile. The Starvation short story focuses on the struggles of various war refugees in Rio de Janeiro.

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* WarRefugees: The civilians that managed to escape their home countries and cities before they were overrun by the barrier, the ponies who defected from Queen Celestia, and [[spoiler: Chrysalis]] for awhile. The Starvation short story ''Starvation'' focuses on the struggles of various war refugees living in Rio de Janeiro.



** [[spoiler: Discord thinks he's one too, as he only caused chaos in Equestria the first time so ponies could overcome the challenges necessary to make themselves self-reliant. He's not thrilled with what Princess Celestia's well-meaning efforts to stop him [[MedievalStasis have led to]], though his trips through his trips through the multiverse do force him to realize his own carelessness and lack of control at the time as well as reconsider his position]].

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** [[spoiler: Discord thinks he's one too, as he only caused chaos in Equestria the first time so ponies could overcome the challenges necessary to make themselves self-reliant. He's not thrilled with what Princess Celestia's well-meaning efforts to stop him [[MedievalStasis have led to]], though his trips through his trips through the multiverse do force him to realize his own carelessness and lack of control at the time as well as reconsider his position]].



* DeconstructionFic:
** Bordering on DeconstructorFleet, as this fic shreds through why [[SugarBowl Equestria]] and the ponies would engage in a typical ''Conversion Bureau'' plot, addresses the impracticality of transporting Equestria to Earth, the misanthropy of most ponies in TCB fics, and it does not shy away from [[WarIsHell the horrors of war]]. And even it has a deconstrucion fic in the ''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/143840/1/the-conversion-bureau-the-other-side-of-the-spectrum-side-story-starvation/starvation Starvation]]'' side story, which was based on taking most of the FridgeHorror of the setting and demonstrating how awful such a world would be for the people who don't get to be larger-than-life heroes.

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* DeconstructionFic:
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DeconstructionFic: Bordering on DeconstructorFleet, as this fic shreds through why [[SugarBowl Equestria]] and the ponies would engage in a typical ''Conversion Bureau'' plot, addresses the impracticality of transporting Equestria to Earth, the misanthropy of most ponies in TCB fics, and it does not shy away from [[WarIsHell the horrors of war]]. And even it has a deconstrucion fic in the ''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/143840/1/the-conversion-bureau-the-other-side-of-the-spectrum-side-story-starvation/starvation Starvation]]'' ''Starvation'' side story, which was based on taking most of the FridgeHorror of the setting and demonstrating how awful such a world would be for the people who don't get to be larger-than-life heroes.



* {{Dedication}}: "Sons of Legacies, Part 1" is dedicated to Drawdex, a pre-reader/editor who recently left the team for personal reasons.
* DeepCoverAgent: In Chapter 11 it turns out that [[spoiler: some of the Royal Guards were actually Changelings planted there since they were young]].

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* {{Dedication}}: "Sons of Legacies, Part 1" is dedicated to Drawdex, a pre-reader/editor who recently left had to leave the team for personal reasons.
* DeepCoverAgent: In Chapter 11 11, it turns out that [[spoiler: some of the Royal Guards were actually Changelings planted there since they were young]].



* EarthIsABattlefield: The East Coast of the United States has become the latest battlefield in the war against the TCB!Equestrians; elsewhere, the Barrier has stretched far enough that Nairobi (Kenya), New Delhi (India), and New Brunswick (Canada) are on the frontlines as well.

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* EarthIsABattlefield: The East Coast of the United States has become the latest battlefield in the war against the TCB!Equestrians; elsewhere, the Barrier has stretched far enough that Nairobi (Kenya), New Delhi (India), and New Brunswick (Canada) are on the frontlines front lines as well.



** Kreme-Brulee spells it out as well:

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** In ''Last Train From Oblivion'', Iron Kreme-Brulee spells it out as well:



** The Barrier, while their trump card, essentially screws TCB!Equestria over big time, since it vaporizes ''everything'' (agriculture, infrastructure, buildings, and information about how to create these things), leaving the conquered lands useless to them, which is especially problematic since their food production is breaking down. They're destroying the very resources they need so much. Not only that, but they've overstretched themselves so far that it'd be nigh-impossible to even figure this stuff out, and it's all during wartime no less.
*** An article from Prime!Twilight in ''Other Side of the Mirror'' expands on this. Since the Barrier is powered directly by TCB!Equestria's magical field, it's draining the lifeforce of the land, leading to the aforementioned food production problems and possibly even the Cutie Mark Dearth itself.

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** The Barrier, while barrier may be their trump card, essentially screws card (and it's clear the war would've been over in a day without it), but it's also screwing TCB!Equestria over big time, since it vaporizes ''everything'' (agriculture, infrastructure, buildings, materials, and information about how to create these things), leaving the conquered lands useless to them, which is especially problematic since their food production is breaking down. They're destroying the very resources they need so much. Not only that, but they've overstretched themselves so far that it'd be nigh-impossible to even figure this stuff out, and it's all during wartime no less.
*** An A research article from Prime!Twilight in ''Other Side of the Mirror'' expands on this. Since the Barrier is powered directly by TCB!Equestria's magical field, it's draining the lifeforce of the land, leading to the aforementioned food production problems and possibly even the Cutie Mark Dearth itself.



* HolyBacklight: In the chapter "The Answer'", Derpy first appears gliding out of the TARDIS, explicitly described as being 'backlit like an angel'.
* HolyCity: According to the chapter "Setting It Right", Mecca has been wiped out by the barrier, devastating the Islamic world. And given The Barrier's starting point (Switzerland), it's safe to say Vatican City and Jerusalem were destroyed too.

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* HolyBacklight: In the chapter "The Answer'", Answer", Derpy first appears gliding out of the TARDIS, explicitly described as being 'backlit like an angel'.
* HolyCity: According to the chapter "Setting It Right", Mecca has been wiped out by the barrier, devastating the Islamic world. And given The Barrier's the barrier's starting point (Switzerland), it's safe to say Vatican City and Jerusalem were destroyed too.



* IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight: Marcus tried this on Stalwart Heart to bring his former human self, Jacob (Marcus's little brother) back. It doesn't work.

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* IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight: Marcus tried this on Stalwart Heart to bring his former human self, Jacob (Marcus's (Marcus' little brother) back. It doesn't didn't work.



* InMediasRes: The story starts after Marcus' entry to Prime!Equestria. In the overall arc, the main story starts after the war has lasted for 3-4 years.

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* InMediasRes: The story starts after Marcus' entry to Prime!Equestria. In the overall arc, Prime!Equestria, and the main story starts itself takes place little over three years after the war has lasted for 3-4 years.began.



--> '''Prince Blueblood:''' "How dare you call me a donkey! You look like a minotaur that went a few rounds with an ape he just found!"
--> '''Marcus:''' "No, calling you a donkey is an insult to such a mighty, fine, foul-working breed of equine. You, make me laugh."

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--> '''Prince Blueblood:''' "How dare you call me a donkey! You look like a minotaur that went a few rounds with an ape he just found!"
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found!"\\
'''Marcus:''' "No, calling you a donkey is an insult to such a mighty, fine, foul-working breed of equine. You, make me laugh."



* ItIsBeyondSaving: TCB!Cheerilee holds this opinion of TCB!Equestria.

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* ItIsBeyondSaving: TCB!Cheerilee (and more than a few TCB Equestrian defectors) holds this opinion of TCB!Equestria.



** Marcus's reasons for wanting to kill the TCB!Mane Six, ranging from Rainbow Dash ponifying his soldiers right in front of him to Twilight ponifying, seducing, ''and marrying his own brother'', which led to Marcus having to kill said brother.

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** Marcus's Marcus' reasons for wanting to kill the TCB!Mane Six, ranging from Rainbow Dash ponifying his soldiers right in front of him to Twilight ponifying, seducing, ''and marrying his own brother'', which led to Marcus having to kill said brother.



** This was also heavily discussed and subverted in ''War March and Past Sins'', with the eponymous past sin being that [[spoiler: Spykoran [[KillItWithFire resorted to]] [[KillEmAll drastic measures]] to keep the Bag of Tirek buried. While the other world leaders of Equus are horrified by what he did (with Luna herself calling him a murderer), Discord, Marcus and to a lesser extent Celestia agree that Spykoran [[IDidWhatIHadToDo did what had to be done]], and Spykoran himself [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone deeply]] [[OutDamnedSpot regrets his actions]]]].

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** This was also heavily discussed and subverted in ''War "War March and Past Sins'', Sins", with the eponymous past sin being that [[spoiler: Spykoran [[KillItWithFire resorted to]] [[KillEmAll drastic measures]] to keep the Bag of Tirek buried. While the other world leaders of Equus are horrified by what he did (with Luna herself calling him a murderer), Discord, Marcus and to a lesser extent Celestia agree that Spykoran [[IDidWhatIHadToDo did what had to be done]], and Spykoran himself [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone deeply]] [[OutDamnedSpot regrets his actions]]]].



* MultinationalTeam: The remainders of Europe's armed forces have now joined together as one to keep fighting the ponies.

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* MultinationalTeam: The remainders of Europe's armed forces have now joined together as one to keep fighting the ponies. The PHL itself is also comprised of a diverse roster of fighters from Earth and Equus.



* MultiversalConqueror: It's very clear that once Queen Celestia is done with Earth, the regular Equestria is next. And according to [[spoiler: Discord]], she will likely only continue on after that. [[spoiler:It turns out to be Tirek's whole plan]].

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* MultiversalConqueror: It's very clear that once Queen Celestia is done with Earth, the regular Equestria Prime!Equestria is next. And according to [[spoiler: Discord]], she will likely only continue on after that. [[spoiler:It turns out to be Tirek's whole plan]].



* MurderSuicide: A flashback shows a man killing his recently ponified son and then himself after reciting The Lord's Prayer, to TCB!Applejack's disgust and Marcus' horror.

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* MurderSuicide: A flashback shows a man killing his recently just ponified son and then himself after reciting The Lord's Prayer, to TCB!Applejack's disgust and Marcus' horror.
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