History Fanfic / TheConversionBureauTheOtherSideOfTheSpectrum

29th Jul '16 3:52:21 PM KizunaTallis
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Prime!Chrysalis gives one to Stephan,asking him what he really knows about Trixie as a person (beyond her skills, what she's survived

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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Prime!Chrysalis gives one to Stephan,asking Stephan, asking him what he really knows about Trixie as a person (beyond her skills, what she's survived through, etc) and how sustainable their relationship would be without the backdrop of the war.



** For natural born TCB ponies, there's either the Empire's brutal [[TheGulag prison work camps]] or re-education (in which the end result is described as being a like a "newfoal with a cutie mark").



** The re-education centers (called "mind healers" by pro-Imperials) is this for the natural-borns. We don't know exactly what goes on in them, though two PHL ponies named Aegis and Verdant Tract have mention brushes with them and neither liked to recall the experience (nor do they want another brush).



** Luna, Chrysalis, Cadence and Stephan have to go on one of these to break Trixie out of the enchantment Weaver put on her.



* LoweredRecruitingStandards: By the time the Barrier swallows up most of Europe, children start making up some parts of military units and the Bundeswehr also allowed Kraber, a former HLF operative and someone who desperately needs a mental health evaluation, to serve (though thankfully, his AxCrazy nature is only limited to his enemies).
** The inclusion of Newfoals into the Royal Guards and the Wonderbolts is this for the Empire.

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* LoweredRecruitingStandards: By the time the Barrier swallows up most of Europe, children child soldiers (human, pony, etc.) start making up some parts of military units and the Bundeswehr also allowed Kraber, a former HLF operative and someone who desperately needs a mental health evaluation, to serve (though thankfully, his AxCrazy nature is only limited to his enemies).
** The inclusion of Newfoals into the Royal Guards and the Wonderbolts is this for the Empire. At best, they're little more than cannon fodder however.
29th Jul '16 12:53:24 PM KizunaTallis
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** Class 5 for most of Europe and sections of Africa due to the Barrier, and may happen worldwide. [[spoiler: Humanity intends to use this against Queen Celestia thanks to the Yellowstone megavolcano, which has nukes buried underground at its weakest points, to be detonated if mankind's loss appears imminent]].
* ApocalypseAnarchy: The few nations that still exist untouched by the Barrier aren't exactly in good shape.
** America: Even though the PHL/UN Taskforce has rather good publicity, there are growing anti-pony movements affiliated with the HLF, which has become a frighteningly hate-filled movement of {{Right Wing Militia Fanatic}}s with enough firepower and rage to attempt a takeover of a military base. Not to mention, like the people in Rio, most civilians are going hungry a lot of the time.

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** Class 5 for most all of Europe and sections at least half of Africa and Asia due to the Barrier, and may happen worldwide. [[spoiler: Humanity intends to use this against Queen Celestia thanks to the Yellowstone megavolcano, which has nukes buried underground at its weakest points, to be detonated if mankind's loss appears imminent]].
* ApocalypseAnarchy: The few nations that are still exist untouched by the Barrier aren't exactly in good shape.
** America: Even though the PHL/UN Taskforce has rather good publicity, there are growing anti-pony movements affiliated with the HLF, which has become a frighteningly hate-filled movement of {{Right Wing Militia Fanatic}}s with enough firepower and rage to attempt a takeover of a military base. Not to mention, like the people in Rio, most civilians are going hungry a lot of the time.time, and the PER is still a big enough problem to where no one goes outside alone and not without at least one gun on them.



** Brazil: We don't see much outside of Rio De Janeiro. However, it's become an almost {{Cyberpunk}} WretchedHive reminiscent of ''Film/{{Elysium}}'', full of starving WarRefugees, incredibly overpopulated, and so short on food that some jobs actually pay in food rations instead of money. The narrator describes the city as "damn near a warzone" and considers it a terrible idea to walk outside his apartment without body armor. He also alludes to race riots and food riots, and there's apparently lost Newfoals in the city.

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** Brazil: We don't see much outside of Rio De Janeiro. However, it's become an almost {{Cyberpunk}} WretchedHive reminiscent of ''Film/{{Elysium}}'', full of starving WarRefugees, incredibly overpopulated, and so short on food that some jobs actually pay in food rations instead of money. money ( and some people have outright [[NoPartyLikeADonnerParty resorted to cannibalism]]). The narrator of ''Starvation'' describes the city as "damn near a warzone" and considers it a terrible idea to walk outside his apartment without body armor. He also alludes to race riots and food riots, over resources, and there's apparently lost Newfoals in the city.city causing trouble.


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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Prime!Chrysalis gives one to Stephan,asking him what he really knows about Trixie as a person (beyond her skills, what she's survived
21st Jul '16 2:04:52 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** [[spoiler: Queen Celestia [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy had a feeling the humans might have an ace up their sleeve]], so she sent a Mirror Pool clone of herself to Boston instead]].

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** [[spoiler: Queen Celestia [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy had a feeling the humans might have an ace up their sleeve]], sleeve, so she sent a Mirror Pool clone of herself to Boston instead]].



* PrecisionFStrike: In Chapter 10, The Doctor recites the failsafe code for [[spoiler:the nukes set up to detonate Yellowstone]] "Celestia is a cock loving whore." [[GenreSavvy Deliberately vulgar and insulting to Queen Celestia so Newfoals can't activate it]]. Additionally, the password for getting into the PHL's main headquarters is "Fuck that Solar Bitch."
** Princess Celestia, of all ponies, delivers one when she gives [[EntitledBastard Pri]][[RoyalBrat nce]] [[{{Jerkass}} Blueb]][[PrinceCharmless lood]] a well deserved TheReasonYouSuckSpeech.
* ProperlyParanoid[=/=]CrazyPrepared: Marcus, Celestia, and Luna are trying this, according to the first chapter of ''Calm Before The Storm''. They don't think things will go horribly wrong, thus dooming humanity and all sentient life... but they have to be sure.

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* PrecisionFStrike: In Chapter 10, The Doctor recites the failsafe code for [[spoiler:the nukes set up to detonate Yellowstone]] "Celestia is a cock loving whore." [[GenreSavvy Deliberately vulgar and insulting to Queen Celestia so Newfoals can't activate it]].it. Additionally, the password for getting into the PHL's main headquarters is "Fuck that Solar Bitch."
** Princess Celestia, of all ponies, delivers one when she gives [[EntitledBastard Pri]][[RoyalBrat nce]] [[{{Jerkass}} Blueb]][[PrinceCharmless lood]] Prince Blueblood]] a well deserved TheReasonYouSuckSpeech.
* ProperlyParanoid[=/=]CrazyPrepared: ProperlyParanoid: Marcus, Celestia, and Luna are trying this, according to the first chapter of ''Calm Before The Storm''. They don't think things will go horribly wrong, thus dooming humanity and all sentient life... but they have to be sure.
9th Jul '16 6:34:09 PM KizunaTallis
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* InvadedStatesOfAmerica: After the Barrier has consumed most of Europe, the TCB!Equestrians strike the Eastern United States.

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* InvadedStatesOfAmerica: After the Barrier has consumed most all of Europe, the TCB!Equestrians strike the Eastern United States.



* LoweredRecruitingStandards: By the time the Barrier swallows up most of Europe, children start making up some parts of military units and the Bundeswehr also allowed Kraber, a former HLF operative and someone who desperately needs a mental health evaluation, to serve (thankfully, his AxCrazy nature is only limited to his enemies).

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* LoweredRecruitingStandards: By the time the Barrier swallows up most of Europe, children start making up some parts of military units and the Bundeswehr also allowed Kraber, a former HLF operative and someone who desperately needs a mental health evaluation, to serve (thankfully, (though thankfully, his AxCrazy nature is only limited to his enemies).



* MarySue: InUniverse the concept is {{Discussed}}, and {{Deconstructed}} at the same time. According to Marcus, the ponification potion turns people into "perfect ponies". Applejack quickly dismisses the concept of perfect ponies as complete crap.

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* MarySue: InUniverse the concept is {{Discussed}}, and {{Deconstructed}} and vocally {{Defied}} at the same time. According to Marcus, the ponification potion turns people into "perfect ponies". Applejack quickly dismisses the concept of perfect ponies as complete crap.



** Mecca, the Muslim equivalent the The Vatican, has been destroyed by the Barrier.

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** Mecca, the Muslim equivalent the to The Vatican, has been destroyed by the Barrier.Barrier. And for that matter, so were Vatican City and Jerusalem. As a silver lining of sorts however, the three Abrahamic faiths have made peace with one another (as exemplified by a flashback showing a Muslim girl killing newfoals to protect a Christian family).



** TCB!Lightning Dust and TCB!Rainbow Dash are implied to be in a relationship with each other. Justified in that certain events in TCB!Equestria played out ''very'' differently from prime, and there's the fact that [[spoiler: none of the TCB versions of the Mane Six have been in control of themselves or their actions. Which raises... [[QuestionableConsent certain questions]]]].

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** TCB!Lightning Dust and TCB!Rainbow Dash are implied to be in a relationship with each other. Justified in that certain events in TCB!Equestria played out ''very'' differently from prime, canon, and there's the fact that [[spoiler: none of the TCB versions of the Mane Six have been in control of themselves or their actions. Which raises... [[QuestionableConsent certain questions]]]].



* WorldOfCardboardSpeech: During the Hostage Crisis Arc, Weaver gets in the way of Prime!Applejack and Prime!Fluttershy, and attempts to dissuade them from joining the fight at the cost of their innocence, bringing up a reminder that all human nations have skeletons in their own closets. Fluttershy, gentle soul that she is, replies by arguing back that humanity's bloody history is a natural consequence of living on a harsher world than Equus, a state it has sought to rise above ever since.
** Notable in that Weaver concedes to the spirit of what is said, but ultimately deems it inadequate.

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* WorldOfCardboardSpeech: During the Hostage Crisis Arc, Weaver gets in the way of Prime!Applejack and Prime!Fluttershy, and attempts to dissuade them from joining the fight at the cost of their innocence, bringing up a reminder that all human nations have skeletons in their own closets. Fluttershy, [[FriendToAllLivingThings gentle soul that she is, is]], replies by arguing back that humanity's bloody history is a natural consequence of living on a harsher world than Equus, Equus without the guidance of a benevolent higher being, a state it has sought to rise above ever since.
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since. It's notable in that Weaver concedes to the spirit of what is said, but ultimately deems it inadequate.
4th Jul '16 3:41:49 PM VoxAdam
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* WorldOfCardboardSpeech: During the Hostage Crisis Arc, Weaver gets in the way of Prime!Applejack and Prime!Fluttershy, and attempts to dissuade them from joining the fight at the cost of their innocence, bringing up a reminder that all human nations have skeletons in their own closets. Fluttershy, gentle soul that she is, replies by arguing back that humanity's bloody history is a natural consequence of living on a harsher world than Equus, a state it has sought to rise above ever since.
** Notable in that Weaver concedes to the spirit of what is said, but ultimately deems it inadequate.
--> '''Weaver:''' "[[Literature/CloudAtlas True, true. They had the smarts. They mastered the earth and the waters, sickness and storms, they made miracles and they flew across the sky, and looked next to reach the stars themselves. But they have something else, something stronger than all their intelligence and their kindness... a hunger in their hearts. A constant hunger... for more.]]"
4th Jul '16 3:07:08 PM VoxAdam
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** [[spoiler: Prime!Equestria's Bag of Tirek tries to convince Discord to not throw it away into space, tempting him with the usual stuff. Discord asks it if it can [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas bring his mother back to him]]. That promptly shuts the bag up]].
** During the Hostage Crisis Arc, Weaver attempts to convince the Prime!Element Bearers to stay out of the conflict and make them question how much humanity truly deserves to be saved by bringing up human atrocities. Prime!Fluttershy promptly argues back that humanity's history of warfare is but a natural consequence of the fact that the species came from a much harsher and unforgiving world than Equus, and had to navigate its own way without the guidance of a benevolent higher being.

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** [[spoiler: Prime!Equestria's Bag of Tirek tries to convince Discord to not throw it away into space, tempting him with the usual stuff. Discord asks it if it can [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas bring his mother back to him]]. That promptly shuts the bag up]].
** During the Hostage Crisis Arc, Weaver attempts to convince the Prime!Element Bearers to stay out of the conflict and make them question how much humanity truly deserves to be saved by bringing up human atrocities. Prime!Fluttershy promptly argues back that humanity's history of warfare is but a natural consequence of the fact that the species came from a much harsher and unforgiving world than Equus, and had to navigate its own way without the guidance of a benevolent higher being.
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4th Jul '16 12:59:02 PM KizunaTallis
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** During the Hostage Crisis Arc, Weaver attempts to convince the Prime!Element Bearers to stay out of the conflict and make them question how much humanity truly deserves to be saved by bringing up human atrocities. Prime!Fluttershy promptly argues back that humanity's history of warfare is but a natural consequence of the fact that the species came from a much harsher and unforgiving world than Equus, and had to navigate its own way without the guidance of a benevolent higher being.
14th Jun '16 1:59:16 PM KizunaTallis
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** The ponification potion was created and used for "beneficial purposes" before Queen Celestia did away with the pretenses and began her conquest of Earth, but its creation required extensive experimentation. [[WordOfGod Redskin122004 explained]] that the Imperials picked off humans from poor areas all across the world over a long period of time to avoid detection while acquiring test subjects.
14th Jun '16 10:39:26 AM dlchen145
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* KillThePoor:
** Chapter 11 reveals that the PER kidnapped homeless people across the US and ponified them to assist in attacking Washington DC.
** The ponification potion was created and used for "beneficial purposes" before Celestia began her conquest of Earth, but its creation required extensive experimentation. [[WordOfGod Redskin122004 explained]] that Celestia picked off humans from poor areas across the world over a long period of time to avoid detection while acquiring test subjects.
14th Jun '16 10:32:28 AM dlchen145
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* DisposableVagrant:
** Chapter 11 reveals that the PER kidnapped homeless people across the US and ponified them to assist in attacking Washington DC.
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