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* WriterOnBoard: Lathis has a BerserkButton for ranma however he doesn’t seem to understand the difference between not making the character overly powerful and intentionally weakening him leading to many instances of PlotInducedStupidity for not only Ranma but XCOM as a whole.
** He also seems to have felt the need to make the Titan’s personalities more dark to reflect the story. However since they are still presented as in the morally right they come across more as hypocritical EntitledBastard.
* WrongGenreSavvy: The titans made all of the mistakes usually seen in Zombie movies such as first trying to reason with them.
** He also seems to have felt the need to make the Titan’s personalities more dark to reflect the story. However since they are still presented as in the morally right they come across more as hypocritical EntitledBastard.
* WrongGenreSavvy: The titans made all of the mistakes usually seen in Zombie movies such as first trying to reason with them.
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* WriterOnBoard: Lathis has a BerserkButton for ranma however he doesn’t seem to understand strongly dislikes Ranma Saotome, but goes too far in preventing him from being an InvincibleHero; the difference between not making the character overly powerful and intentionally weakening him leading to result is many instances of PlotInducedStupidity IdiotBall-holding for not only Ranma but XCOM as a whole.
**He also seems to have felt the need to make Lathis made the Titan’s personalities more dark darker to reflect the story. However since Since they are still presented as being in the morally right right, though, they come across more as hypocritical EntitledBastard.
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* WrongGenreSavvy: Thetitans made Titans make all of the mistakes usually seen in Zombie zombie movies such as first trying to reason with them.
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* FakeDefector Cyborg mentions that where he's from, heroes who fake switching sides almost always end up facing some moral-testing choice or other complications that screw over their initial plan.
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* HeelFaceMole: Cyborg mentioned that in the Superhero world this is essentially AwesomeButImpractical. Heroes who faked a face turn almost always ended up with some masquerade shattering moral choice or some other complication that screwed over the initial plan.
** Some various obvious hints have been dropped that Akari might be this.
** Some various obvious hints have been dropped that Akari might be this.
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* WriterOnBoard: Lathis has a BerserkButton for ranma however he doesn’t seem to understand the difference between not making the character overly powerful and intentionally weakening him leading to many instances of PlotInducedStupidity for not only Ranma but XCOM as a whole.
** He also seems to have felt the need to make the Titan’s personalities more dark to reflect the story. However since they are still presented as in the morally right they come across more as hypocritical EntitledBastard.
** He also seems to have felt the need to make the Titan’s personalities more dark to reflect the story. However since they are still presented as in the morally right they come across more as hypocritical EntitledBastard.
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* WordOfGod: There is no Sectoid Hierarchy in the DCAU, Ethereals do not exist in their atrophied forms, things like Chryssalids and Mutons were never genetically engineered. Etc.
** However this is partly addressed in the recently closed arc. One of the Green Lanterns (and in fact, a senior and well respected Lantern), specifically the one that died deep within Heresiarch, bore an uncanny resemblance to Sectoids. A resemblance that is remarked on for good reason. Though not stated definitely to be so, there could be a pre-Sectoid race within DC (the Greys). However, it would be the distant precursor stock to the Sectoids and Aquatoids we know. Perhaps, in the distant past between 65 and 100 million years ago, the Grey Race were prevented from undergoing the racial transformation or progrom that made them what they are in X-COM. If that divergence was caused by Green Lanterns, who do not exist in DC... well. It wouldn't be entirely unsupported.
** The biggest problem with just "zapping" Akari and curing her is that it would still KILL her. Granted, she is slowly dying anyway while under a Mind Shield (just like Mutons and Ethereals, she is a "fully realized" alien and can not survive disconnect from the Mind), but it would both put her back at square one and also make her a compromised research subject. This is compounded by the fact that Seiran is in a dispute with other UNETCO facilities over holding her in the first place (hence the compromise of Europe and Russia sending scientists over to Japan).
** Jyusenkyou is a result of a malfunctioning Synodium Device. This is what Zraz (a Snakeman Commander) believed it to be. However, we never see this Synodium Device, and the Cydonian aliens either didn't know of it, or avoided it until recently. We also know that the aliens had molecular control 65-plus million yrs ago, since R'leth had it, and she was a sister ship to T'leth.
** However this is partly addressed in the recently closed arc. One of the Green Lanterns (and in fact, a senior and well respected Lantern), specifically the one that died deep within Heresiarch, bore an uncanny resemblance to Sectoids. A resemblance that is remarked on for good reason. Though not stated definitely to be so, there could be a pre-Sectoid race within DC (the Greys). However, it would be the distant precursor stock to the Sectoids and Aquatoids we know. Perhaps, in the distant past between 65 and 100 million years ago, the Grey Race were prevented from undergoing the racial transformation or progrom that made them what they are in X-COM. If that divergence was caused by Green Lanterns, who do not exist in DC... well. It wouldn't be entirely unsupported.
** The biggest problem with just "zapping" Akari and curing her is that it would still KILL her. Granted, she is slowly dying anyway while under a Mind Shield (just like Mutons and Ethereals, she is a "fully realized" alien and can not survive disconnect from the Mind), but it would both put her back at square one and also make her a compromised research subject. This is compounded by the fact that Seiran is in a dispute with other UNETCO facilities over holding her in the first place (hence the compromise of Europe and Russia sending scientists over to Japan).
** Jyusenkyou is a result of a malfunctioning Synodium Device. This is what Zraz (a Snakeman Commander) believed it to be. However, we never see this Synodium Device, and the Cydonian aliens either didn't know of it, or avoided it until recently. We also know that the aliens had molecular control 65-plus million yrs ago, since R'leth had it, and she was a sister ship to T'leth.
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* WhatTheHellHero: T-Ryoga gave one to Jinx for attacking Kasumi putting both her life and the life of all her teammates in danger.
** It wouldn’t be a TTLB sequel with out T-Ryoga being given one of these. This time Cyborg called him out on repeatedly antagonizing every XCOM character he talks to.
** Even [[PotCallingTheKettleBlack Jinx had called him on it]]
** Raven called T-Ryoga out for acting like a SpoiledBrat upon meeting his father
--> '''Raven''': What is with you today? Here you have a ... well, maybe a thrice in a lifetime chance to meet your father, and all you can think to do is complain?
** Jinx called Nabiki out while in the bleed when she insulted T-Ryoga over the radio while trying to get them to respond.
** It wouldn’t be a TTLB sequel with out T-Ryoga being given one of these. This time Cyborg called him out on repeatedly antagonizing every XCOM character he talks to.
** Even [[PotCallingTheKettleBlack Jinx had called him on it]]
** Raven called T-Ryoga out for acting like a SpoiledBrat upon meeting his father
--> '''Raven''': What is with you today? Here you have a ... well, maybe a thrice in a lifetime chance to meet your father, and all you can think to do is complain?
** Jinx called Nabiki out while in the bleed when she insulted T-Ryoga over the radio while trying to get them to respond.
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* TheWorfEffect: Starfire is a heavy hitter who can duke it out with a tank and win so the bullet hit causing her to melt a hand gun can across as this.
** In the India against slade Ryu was decribed as not being infamous among the teams for his raw power, like Ryouga or even Ranma were, when that is literally the entire point of the Yamasenken a powerfully aggressive style that is designed to overwhelm the defense of an opponent. He should be at least as strong as Ranma.
*** Ryu gets this a lot by both authors. The Kijin Raishu Dan is a technique where the user moves their hand so fast that they create near vacuum slashes that jet through the air at near sonic speeds. However in both Dark Titans and The Road to Cydonia the void wave is created using ki. Not only does this lower Ryu’s speed it takes away from the originality of the technique by making it similar to Herb’s ki blades.
** Anyone who goes up against Jinx goes through this not only does she claim that she can hold her own against T-Ranma in a challenge match for the title of school heir, but X-Ranma as well, she is also shown to be stronger then X-Shampoo (or at least hinted as) and can calsually hurt T-Ryoga with an off hand back and.
** When Starfire fought both Kuno and Jinx, Jinx while curb stomped at least put up a fight while Kuno suffered a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown.
** Starfire handily defeating ranma powerhouses
** In the India against slade Ryu was decribed as not being infamous among the teams for his raw power, like Ryouga or even Ranma were, when that is literally the entire point of the Yamasenken a powerfully aggressive style that is designed to overwhelm the defense of an opponent. He should be at least as strong as Ranma.
*** Ryu gets this a lot by both authors. The Kijin Raishu Dan is a technique where the user moves their hand so fast that they create near vacuum slashes that jet through the air at near sonic speeds. However in both Dark Titans and The Road to Cydonia the void wave is created using ki. Not only does this lower Ryu’s speed it takes away from the originality of the technique by making it similar to Herb’s ki blades.
** Anyone who goes up against Jinx goes through this not only does she claim that she can hold her own against T-Ranma in a challenge match for the title of school heir, but X-Ranma as well, she is also shown to be stronger then X-Shampoo (or at least hinted as) and can calsually hurt T-Ryoga with an off hand back and.
** When Starfire fought both Kuno and Jinx, Jinx while curb stomped at least put up a fight while Kuno suffered a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown.
** Starfire handily defeating ranma powerhouses
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** [[GenkiGirl Anime Starfire]] [[OutOfCharacter somehow rationalises]] restraint against non-superpowered opponents as a version of supremacism, and not in the "You should show restraint against the aliens as well" direction, but rather [[KillEmAll the other one]]. [[note]]Possibly a very loose, some generations-removed, memetic leftover from the popular online or GTA style: "If you are willing to accept the unavoidable realities of eating animals, you have to be willing to murder, eat, and put anybody in a genocide camp, or you're a hypocrite, as benevolence has to include all or nothing, and as all is impossible per definition you should all become casual spree-killers, or you are all horrible people" rationale.[[/note]] This despite that her teammates would have preferred to use non-lethal force against the alien war-breeds as well, but they were conceptually designed to be impossible to use it against, and near impossible to even keep alive in confinement to boot. However, she also makes a valid point about that the term "[[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inhuman inhuman]]" is contradictory, as there will always be some human perfectly willing to commit any level of atrocity.
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** [[GenkiGirl Anime Starfire]] [[OutOfCharacter somehow rationalises]] restraint against non-superpowered opponents as a version of supremacism, and not in the "You should show restraint against the aliens as well" direction, but rather [[KillEmAll the other one]].one. [[note]]Possibly a very loose, some generations-removed, memetic leftover from the popular online or GTA style: "If you are willing to accept the unavoidable realities of eating animals, you have to be willing to murder, eat, and put anybody in a genocide camp, or you're a hypocrite, as benevolence has to include all or nothing, and as all is impossible per definition you should all become casual spree-killers, or you are all horrible people" rationale.[[/note]] This despite that her teammates would have preferred to use non-lethal force against the alien war-breeds as well, but they were conceptually designed to be impossible to use it against, and near impossible to even keep alive in confinement to boot. However, she also makes a valid point about that the term "[[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inhuman inhuman]]" is contradictory, as there will always be some human perfectly willing to commit any level of atrocity.
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** The training Ukyo went through for her match against Konatsu helped her in mastering her GreenLanternRing in her match against T-Ryoga.
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** It was both played straight and averted with Ukyo however. Ryoga's unstoppable determination really did a number on her yet just like him she would not go down. Even after he discovered the weakness of GreenLanternRing she survived his ultimate technique and fought on.
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** It was both played straight and averted with Ukyo however. Ryoga's unstoppable determination really did a number on her yet just like him she would not go down. Even after he discovered the weakness of GreenLanternRing the Green Lantern Ring, she survived his ultimate technique and fought on.
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* GreenLanternRing: Ukyo's Corpse Lantern ring is a little example
* GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe: One of the dead Green Lantern found.
* GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe: One of the dead Green Lantern found.
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** Ukyou was able to do this in her fight with T-Ryoga with her GreenLanternRing.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Although it is uncertain how much of this was unintentional and simply inherent undertones in the original X-COM chronology, there are lots of RuleOfSymbolism aspects packed into RLOADR, including Saffron now being an EldritchAbomination [[SuicideAttack suicide bomber]]. The opposition are written as some kind of odd UsefulNotes/{{Buddhism}} + [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul Internet Addiction]] + [[UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies Socialism]] + SpoiledBrat + PsychopathicManchild + [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} Islam Fundamentalist]] + EldritchAbomination extreme TakeThat AccentuateTheNegative distortion/inaccurate associations overlap, which comes across as UnfortunateImplications, considering that the first two to four groups are generally completely harmless in real world terms, if possibly helpless in certain areas, while [[SociopathicSoldier some of the types]] [[MadDoctor of people]] set as {{Designated Hero}}es against them are very much not.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Although it is uncertain how much of this was unintentional and simply inherent undertones in the original X-COM chronology, there are lots of RuleOfSymbolism aspects packed into RLOADR, including Saffron now being an EldritchAbomination [[SuicideAttack suicide bomber]]. The opposition are written as some kind of odd UsefulNotes/{{Buddhism}} + [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul Internet Addiction]] + [[UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies Socialism]] + SpoiledBrat + PsychopathicManchild + [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} Islam Fundamentalist]] + EldritchAbomination extreme TakeThat AccentuateTheNegative distortion/inaccurate associations overlap, which comes across as UnfortunateImplications, considering that the first two to four groups are generally completely harmless in real world terms, if possibly helpless in certain areas, while [[SociopathicSoldier some of the types]] [[MadDoctor of people]] set as {{Designated Hero}}es against them are very much not.
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* DramaticHighPerching: Ranma has been repeatedly sited for standing on random things.
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* IHaveTheHighGround: Ranma has been repeatedly sited for standing on random things.
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This or these examples of Surprisingly Realistic Outcome seem to violate at least one of these rules, which disqualifies them: No character reactions (characters get angry, don't forgive, don't change their personality instantly, etc.); Too fantastical (depends on the properties of magic, powers, sci-fi tech, monsters, etc.); Not surprising (a character was warned about the outcome, it's used to provide Karma or An Aesop, or it simply follows normal conventions for this genre or medium); Plot happens (the example only describes an event, but not why audiences would expect a different, unrealistic outcome); Not an outcome (a character just explains why something wouldn't work as expected, or something is just an innate aspect of the setting or character that has a logical reason for being present); More of a Deconstruction (the event has major, lasting effects on the plot, make something more realistic, but not completely realistic, or a parody/fanwork applies realistic consequences to the events of a different work); or fits better under a different trope. See the trope's definition for more details. If you believe a removal was a mistake, please bring it up in the cleanup thread.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: The Titan's were repeatedly warned that putting Etheral DNA back into Akari was a bad idea. Even by Akari herself he wished to die as herself. Yet they did it anyway is it any surprise that it went bad.
** It should be noted that a lot of Jinx's actions are motivated by ItsAllAboutMe (which seems to be a side effect of being coerced into loving Ryoga) which makes the consequences this trope. Back in Atlantis Jinx forcibly synchronized with Ryoga and Terra because she was jealous of the fact that they were so in synch with each other. obviously introducing this new unknown factor in such an intricate technique endangered all three of their lives. She only went to get the Ethereal DNA because she didn't care about Akari's wishes.
** Raven has lost the link to her MoralityPet and with none to vent her emotions to she has shouldered all of her troubles by herself. Because of this Slade only needed to find a single small chink in her armor to get her to become DrunkOnTheDarkSide.
*** Raven's powers are not exclusively mental, but spiritual an extension of her entire being, mind, body and soul. By focusing exclusively on her psyche she lost touch with her with her physical being.
** Despite his immense power the millennia he spent trapped in the hulk dimension really took a toll on Tresspasser
** Ukyo utilizing BoringButPractical with the GreenLanternRing. There are two main reasons that Ukyou didn't use a plasma rifle. Of course the complexity issue would mean nothing to her, as she lacks insight into the intricacies of Green Lantern abilities, so while important, it's not one of them. First is merely a familiary/comfort issue. It's what she knows and what she's confident with, so she likes to use her spatula. Second, for the most part, she is trying to restrain and capture, as opposed to kill T-Ryo (...though you could easily be forgiven for thinking otherwise with some of the attacks she was using), so creating a Plasma rifle wasn't really suitable for her purpose.
*** The GL ring is powered by will power. For the duration of the Hulk Arc (not the green one), Ukyou has been trapped in a dimension that drives you insane, and was brainwashed and subverted by a hostile alien. Her will power (and pretty much everyone elses) is so compromised that its a miracle she can use the ring at all (a rather telling testament in Ukyou's favour, that she can even use it in such hellish conditions)
** A few readers were surprised that X-COM were able to subdue the Titan's so easily as X-COM is exactly the kind of organization that pretty much every superhero team since... ever, stomp in their spare time. They might have more noble goals then most, but comics are filled to the brim with orginizations that are almost identical in character and nature, if not purpose. Forgetting that those organizations are keep sending black suited norms with an M-16 and expect them to face down Wolverines and Spiderman. NOT coordinated battle hardened, psionic, martial artist.
** When Cyborg was turned human, he totally fell apart, and when Starfire turned human, she took her horrible chainsaw weapon and stabbed the Elder God in the eye. Starfire stepped up her game when she turned human, since she's still essential herself, and herself never gives up. Cyborg, on the other hand, happened to be running in full computer mode at the time, so you can imagine how disconcerting it had to have been to be in computer mode with a flesh and blood body. It's not good times.
** It should be noted that a lot of Jinx's actions are motivated by ItsAllAboutMe (which seems to be a side effect of being coerced into loving Ryoga) which makes the consequences this trope. Back in Atlantis Jinx forcibly synchronized with Ryoga and Terra because she was jealous of the fact that they were so in synch with each other. obviously introducing this new unknown factor in such an intricate technique endangered all three of their lives. She only went to get the Ethereal DNA because she didn't care about Akari's wishes.
** Raven has lost the link to her MoralityPet and with none to vent her emotions to she has shouldered all of her troubles by herself. Because of this Slade only needed to find a single small chink in her armor to get her to become DrunkOnTheDarkSide.
*** Raven's powers are not exclusively mental, but spiritual an extension of her entire being, mind, body and soul. By focusing exclusively on her psyche she lost touch with her with her physical being.
** Despite his immense power the millennia he spent trapped in the hulk dimension really took a toll on Tresspasser
** Ukyo utilizing BoringButPractical with the GreenLanternRing. There are two main reasons that Ukyou didn't use a plasma rifle. Of course the complexity issue would mean nothing to her, as she lacks insight into the intricacies of Green Lantern abilities, so while important, it's not one of them. First is merely a familiary/comfort issue. It's what she knows and what she's confident with, so she likes to use her spatula. Second, for the most part, she is trying to restrain and capture, as opposed to kill T-Ryo (...though you could easily be forgiven for thinking otherwise with some of the attacks she was using), so creating a Plasma rifle wasn't really suitable for her purpose.
*** The GL ring is powered by will power. For the duration of the Hulk Arc (not the green one), Ukyou has been trapped in a dimension that drives you insane, and was brainwashed and subverted by a hostile alien. Her will power (and pretty much everyone elses) is so compromised that its a miracle she can use the ring at all (a rather telling testament in Ukyou's favour, that she can even use it in such hellish conditions)
** A few readers were surprised that X-COM were able to subdue the Titan's so easily as X-COM is exactly the kind of organization that pretty much every superhero team since... ever, stomp in their spare time. They might have more noble goals then most, but comics are filled to the brim with orginizations that are almost identical in character and nature, if not purpose. Forgetting that those organizations are keep sending black suited norms with an M-16 and expect them to face down Wolverines and Spiderman. NOT coordinated battle hardened, psionic, martial artist.
** When Cyborg was turned human, he totally fell apart, and when Starfire turned human, she took her horrible chainsaw weapon and stabbed the Elder God in the eye. Starfire stepped up her game when she turned human, since she's still essential herself, and herself never gives up. Cyborg, on the other hand, happened to be running in full computer mode at the time, so you can imagine how disconcerting it had to have been to be in computer mode with a flesh and blood body. It's not good times.
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** Zig-zagged with despite his PlotInducedStupidity Ranma shows signs of this at least with his relationships. Back in ''The Road to Cydonia'', despite their character development when Akane and Ranma were together, they acted they same way they always do. However in ''Reflections on a Lost Dark Road'', Ranma realizes that type of relationship is unacceptable and sought to fix it.
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** Zig-zagged with with Ranma; despite his PlotInducedStupidity Ranma IdiotBall moments, he does shows signs of this at least with increased wisdom regarding his relationships. Back in ''The Road to Cydonia'', despite their character development when Akane and Ranma were together, they acted they same way they always do. However in ''Reflections on a Lost Dark Road'', Ranma realizes that type of relationship is unacceptable and sought to fix it.
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* PlotHole: The SpotlightStealingSquad has caused a lot of these mainly due to PlotInducedStupidity. For example during their battles with T-Ryoga and Starfire both X-Ryoga and Herb mentioned how Ranma intentionally goaded them into creating counters to the Hiryu Shoten Ha so that he could create counters to their counters. Yet during the battle with Saffron Ranma was honestly surprised that someone had created a counter to the technique and froze in shock.
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* PlotHole: The SpotlightStealingSquad has caused a lot of these mainly due to PlotInducedStupidity.these. For example during their battles with T-Ryoga and Starfire both X-Ryoga and Herb mentioned how Ranma intentionally goaded them into creating counters to the Hiryu Shoten Ha so that he could create counters to their counters. Yet during the battle with Saffron Ranma was honestly surprised that someone had created a counter to the technique and froze in shock.
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** Thank's to PlotInducedStupidity turning him into a more fanon interpretation you have to wonder how Ranma and Akane have had a RelationshipUpgrade as he comes exactly as she's seen him as (insulting, perverted, etc) instead of how she just perceived him as.
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** Thank's Thanks to PlotInducedStupidity turning him into a being more akin to fanon interpretation of himself, you have to wonder how Ranma and Akane have had a RelationshipUpgrade as he comes exactly as she's seen him as (insulting, perverted, etc) instead of how she just perceived him as.
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* IdiotHero: Due to the flanderization of most of the X-com characters Ranma comes across as this due to PlotInducedStupidity.
** It's mainly the fact that unlike in The Road to Cydonia which was closer to the manga characterization. The Ranma here comes across as generically fanon, like something you would see in a bash fic. This coupled with the numerous American pop culture reference he keep making, most of which he shouldn't know given that he's only been in X-com for about a year and a half and was never once depicted as watching a lot of TV([[OutOfCharacter making it seem like he's done little more then watch tv) makes him come across as an idiot with numerous SmartBall moments.
** It's mainly the fact that unlike in The Road to Cydonia which was closer to the manga characterization. The Ranma here comes across as generically fanon, like something you would see in a bash fic. This coupled with the numerous American pop culture reference he keep making, most of which he shouldn't know given that he's only been in X-com for about a year and a half and was never once depicted as watching a lot of TV([[OutOfCharacter making it seem like he's done little more then watch tv) makes him come across as an idiot with numerous SmartBall moments.
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** Taking Ryoga's [[MoralMyopia advice]] everyone gave Jinx leeway for her jerkass behavior. However this only gave her a chance to take it UpToEleven.
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** Zig-zagged with despite his PlotInducedStupidity Ranma shows signs of this at least with his relationships reguardless of RelationshipWritingFumble. Back in ''The Road to Cydonia'', despite their character development when Akane and Ranma were together, they acted they same way they always do. However in ''Reflections on a Lost Dark Road'', Ranma realizes that type of relationship is unacceptable and sought to fix it.
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** Zig-zagged with despite his PlotInducedStupidity Ranma shows signs of this at least with his relationships reguardless of RelationshipWritingFumble.relationships. Back in ''The Road to Cydonia'', despite their character development when Akane and Ranma were together, they acted they same way they always do. However in ''Reflections on a Lost Dark Road'', Ranma realizes that type of relationship is unacceptable and sought to fix it.
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* MoralDissonance: The Titan's see themselves as morally superior because they come from a black and white universe while TRTC is black and grey. However they are shown to be hypocritical apathetic and even amoral at times. They see nothing wrong with allowing Jinx and Ryoga to stay coerced into loving each other (Ryoga consciously stays that way), T-Ryoga and Jinx antagonize nearly everyone they talk to. Jinx is entirely self absorbed regularly ignoring other peoples wishes and safety (as well as her own) to get what she wants.
** Their reliance on HeroInsurance seems to be the major cause of this as there are far more consequences in X-COM then there are in the DCAU. When they first arrived the Titans caused a lot of property damage and even injuries yet were surprised and even angry when authorities tried to apprehend them
** Their reliance on HeroInsurance seems to be the major cause of this as there are far more consequences in X-COM then there are in the DCAU. When they first arrived the Titans caused a lot of property damage and even injuries yet were surprised and even angry when authorities tried to apprehend them
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* HumansAreBastards: After her literally explosive entrance into the world of ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'', Starfire does her best to save everyone from the collapsing clock tower, and manages to prevent any casualties. She is then attacked by the police, then the Chinese army, and finally by X-COM. After being captured and interrogated, they proceed to [[spoiler: MindRape]] her. Upon discovering that she isn't lying and really is from another dimension and not with the Mind, she is recruited by X-COM as if nothing happened. She then watches as X-COM employs the exact same tactics as the aliens against the aliens, barring what circumstances prevent them from doing. She also watches all the human propaganda X-COM spreads throughout their base to keep up morale. All while being told that, as an alien, she basically has no rights and, if the Titans can't get home, she will essentially be a prisoner for the rest of her life. It's little wonder that she wants to get home as soon as possible.
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* HumansAreBastards: After her literally explosive entrance into the world of ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'', ''Fanfic/TheRoadToCydonia'', Starfire does her best to save everyone from the collapsing clock tower, and manages to prevent any casualties. She is then attacked by the police, then the Chinese army, and finally by X-COM. After being captured and interrogated, they proceed to [[spoiler: MindRape]] her. Upon discovering that she isn't lying and really is from another dimension and not with the Mind, she is recruited by X-COM as if nothing happened. She then watches as X-COM employs the exact same tactics as the aliens against the aliens, barring what circumstances prevent them from doing. She also watches all the human propaganda X-COM spreads throughout their base to keep up morale. All while being told that, as an alien, she basically has no rights and, if the Titans can't get home, she will essentially be a prisoner for the rest of her life. It's little wonder that she wants to get home as soon as possible.
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* LoopholeAbuse: To keep X-COM from [[TakeOverTheWorld Taking Over The World]], they are bound by the vaguely-worded Section Seven clause:(Paraphrased) "No extraterrestial technology is to be used against terrestrial combatants" AKA no using energy weapons, power armor, or psi-amps on humans. The instant the X-COM-verse Nerima Wrecking Crew fell into X-COM hands, they were formed into India and Juliet squads, their purpose being to attack civilians X-COM is forbidden by treaty to harm. They currently spend their time [[StateSec attacking]] [[TheQuisling Sirius Group operations]] and [[MutantDraftBoard hunting rogue psychics]], but there is absolutely ''nothing'' keeping X-COM from having them assassinate uncooperative world leaders or even destroying military sites(they rip through ''entire armies'' like a chainsaw through wet tissue paper during the invasion of Korea in ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'') with canonical terrain-wrecking ki abilities which they have ''improved on''.
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* LoopholeAbuse: To keep X-COM from [[TakeOverTheWorld Taking Over The World]], they are bound by the vaguely-worded Section Seven clause:(Paraphrased) "No extraterrestial technology is to be used against terrestrial combatants" AKA no using energy weapons, power armor, or psi-amps on humans. The instant the X-COM-verse Nerima Wrecking Crew fell into X-COM hands, they were formed into India and Juliet squads, their purpose being to attack civilians X-COM is forbidden by treaty to harm. They currently spend their time [[StateSec attacking]] [[TheQuisling Sirius Group operations]] and [[MutantDraftBoard hunting rogue psychics]], but there is absolutely ''nothing'' keeping X-COM from having them assassinate uncooperative world leaders or even destroying military sites(they rip through ''entire armies'' like a chainsaw through wet tissue paper during the invasion of Korea in ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'') ''Fanfic/TheRoadToCydonia'') with canonical terrain-wrecking ki abilities which they have ''improved on''.
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* OlderAndWiser: Zig-zagged with despite his PlotInducedStupidity Ranma shows signs of this at least with his relationships reguardless of RelationshipWritingFumble. Back in TheRoadToCydonia despite their character development when Akane and Ranma were together they acted they same way they always do. However in reflections on a lost dark road Ranma realizes that type of relationship is unacceptable and sought to fix it.
** X-COM as a hole are this as despite their status as DesignatedVillain they are far more willing to put up with the antics of the Titan's then vise versa. They are willing to at least show professional courtesy.
** X-COM as a hole are this as despite their status as DesignatedVillain they are far more willing to put up with the antics of the Titan's then vise versa. They are willing to at least show professional courtesy.
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* OlderAndWiser: OlderAndWiser:
** Zig-zagged with despite his PlotInducedStupidity Ranma shows signs of this at least with his relationships reguardless of RelationshipWritingFumble. Back inTheRoadToCydonia ''The Road to Cydonia'', despite their character development when Akane and Ranma were together together, they acted they same way they always do. However in reflections ''Reflections on a lost dark road Lost Dark Road'', Ranma realizes that type of relationship is unacceptable and sought to fix it.
** X-COM as ahole whole are this as despite their status as DesignatedVillain they are far more willing to put up with the antics of the Titan's then vise versa. They are willing to at least show professional courtesy.
** Zig-zagged with despite his PlotInducedStupidity Ranma shows signs of this at least with his relationships reguardless of RelationshipWritingFumble. Back in
** X-COM as a
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*** Ranma freezing in shock at all since Saffron and Herb have already shown that they can counter the technique in their first fight so ranma freezing in shock doesn't make any sense.
** Nearly every sentence out of Ranma's mouth contains a pop culture reference that is not only dated but American. Since TheRoadToCydonia is a continuation of the manga and neither Manga Ranma or Ranma in TheRoadToCydonia were ever depicted as watching a lot of tv. Furthermore the TimeSkip is only a few mouths so either Ranma psychically inserted the knowledge into his mind or has been spend every free moment watching tv.
** Nearly every sentence out of Ranma's mouth contains a pop culture reference that is not only dated but American. Since TheRoadToCydonia is a continuation of the manga and neither Manga Ranma or Ranma in TheRoadToCydonia were ever depicted as watching a lot of tv. Furthermore the TimeSkip is only a few mouths so either Ranma psychically inserted the knowledge into his mind or has been spend every free moment watching tv.
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** Nearly every sentence out of Ranma's mouth contains a pop culture reference that is not only dated but American. Since
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* {{Telepathy}}: One of the few superpowers already in ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'' world.
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* {{Telepathy}}: One of the few superpowers already in ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'' ''Fanfic/TheRoadToCydonia'' world.
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'''Jinx:''' Oh, man, if I had a nickel for every time I heard a mad scientist say that! I mean, it's practically a trope or cliché or something!
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'''Jinx:''' Oh, man, if I had a nickel for every time I heard a mad scientist say that! I mean, it's practically a trope or cliché or something!
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While fighting a multidimensional monster, Raven's powers go haywire and blast the cast of ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' into an alternate world. A world where superheroes and supervillains don't exist. A world where the general populace doesn't know about aliens. But that doesn't make it harmless.
In the world of ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'', inter-dimensional incursions begin to occur all over the world. From these emerge beings that can only be described as superhuman: a nearly full-body cyborg, the most powerful human psychic ever encountered, a new kind of alien, a living jinx, a multi-headed griffin not properly aligned with this dimension, and a doppleganger of Lieutenant Ryouga Hibiki. As X-COM moves to confront these new threats, the Mind moves to take advantage of it.
From Lathis and Cap'n Chryssalid comes a MegaCrossover between their own [[CrossOver crossover fics]], ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' and ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia''. ''Reflections Lost on a Dark Road'' is canonical to both ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' and ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'' and looks like it will have lasting effects on both. This fic spent a year on hiatus before receiving an update on December 25, 2012. The writing quality is extremely advanced for fanfiction, and is on par with plenty of professional authors.
In the world of ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'', inter-dimensional incursions begin to occur all over the world. From these emerge beings that can only be described as superhuman: a nearly full-body cyborg, the most powerful human psychic ever encountered, a new kind of alien, a living jinx, a multi-headed griffin not properly aligned with this dimension, and a doppleganger of Lieutenant Ryouga Hibiki. As X-COM moves to confront these new threats, the Mind moves to take advantage of it.
From Lathis and Cap'n Chryssalid comes a MegaCrossover between their own [[CrossOver crossover fics]], ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' and ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia''. ''Reflections Lost on a Dark Road'' is canonical to both ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' and ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'' and looks like it will have lasting effects on both. This fic spent a year on hiatus before receiving an update on December 25, 2012. The writing quality is extremely advanced for fanfiction, and is on par with plenty of professional authors.
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While fighting a multidimensional monster, Raven's powers go haywire and blast the cast of ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' ''Fanfic/DarkTitans'' into an alternate world. A world where superheroes and supervillains don't exist. A world where the general populace doesn't know about aliens. But that doesn't make it harmless.
In the world of''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'', ''Fanfic/TheRoadToCydonia'', inter-dimensional incursions begin to occur all over the world. From these emerge beings that can only be described as superhuman: a nearly full-body cyborg, the most powerful human psychic ever encountered, a new kind of alien, a living jinx, a multi-headed griffin not properly aligned with this dimension, and a doppleganger of Lieutenant Ryouga Ryoga Hibiki. As X-COM moves to confront these new threats, the Mind moves to take advantage of it.
From Lathis and Cap'n Chryssalid comes a MegaCrossover between their own [[CrossOver crossover fics]],''FanFic/DarkTitans'' ''Fanfic/DarkTitans'' and ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia''. ''Fanfic/TheRoadToCydonia''. ''Reflections Lost on a Dark Road'' is canonical to both ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' ''Fanfic/DarkTitans'' and ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'' ''Fanfic/TheRoadToCydonia'' and looks like it will have lasting effects on both. This fic spent a year on hiatus before receiving an update on December 25, 2012. The writing quality is extremely advanced for fanfiction, and is on par with plenty of professional authors.
In the world of
From Lathis and Cap'n Chryssalid comes a MegaCrossover between their own [[CrossOver crossover fics]],
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!!Tropes:
* AboveTheInfluence: Averted when Ukyo propositioned Ryu in the de facto morgue, despite knowing the effects the hulk dimensions had on the mind and even wondering about the fact that she might not be in her right mind due to how so lascivious she suddenly became Ryu still slept with Ukyo.
** Ukyo herself isn’t free of this as she basically used the fact that AManIsAlwaysEager to manipulate him into that morgue
** The confirmation that Jinx was given a mental compulsion to love T-Ryouga makes their relationship an aversion of this as well.
* AbsenceOfEvidence: While searching ships in the Hulk Dimension Konatsu mentioned that the smell of ash had been bothering him. Ranma replied that since their suits were hermetically sealed Konatsu couldn’t possibly smell anything.
* AboveTheInfluence: Averted when Ukyo propositioned Ryu in the de facto morgue, despite knowing the effects the hulk dimensions had on the mind and even wondering about the fact that she might not be in her right mind due to how so lascivious she suddenly became Ryu still slept with Ukyo.
** Ukyo herself isn’t free of this as she basically used the fact that AManIsAlwaysEager to manipulate him into that morgue
** The confirmation that Jinx was given a mental compulsion to love T-Ryouga makes their relationship an aversion of this as well.
* AbsenceOfEvidence: While searching ships in the Hulk Dimension Konatsu mentioned that the smell of ash had been bothering him. Ranma replied that since their suits were hermetically sealed Konatsu couldn’t possibly smell anything.
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** Averted when Ukyo propositioned Ryu in the de facto morgue, despite knowing the effects the hulk dimensions had on the mind and even wondering about the fact that she might not be in her right mind due to how so lascivious she suddenly became Ryu still slept with
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** The confirmation that Jinx was given a mental compulsion to love
* AbsenceOfEvidence: While searching ships in the Hulk Dimension Konatsu mentioned that the smell of ash had been bothering him. Ranma replied that since their suits were hermetically sealed Konatsu
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** At the start of TheRoadToCydonia Nabiki had a HeelRealization after someone she tried to blackmail killed themselves. However in this fic she is laughingly joking about the time she sold Ranma to the Triads to get out of a debt.
** The perception of T-Ryouga and others "choosing" Jinx over her setting Starfire off (among other things.) was a neat echo of Trigon corrupted Raven's own tantrum back in the Azarath arc.
** Starfire herself lampshaded the fact that her increasing HumansAreBastards mentality causes this putting herself and others in danger numerous times.
** in all of Lathis’ fics the overall lesson that T-Ryoga learns is that comparatively his problems aren’t that bad and to stop wangsting and [[NeverMyFault blaming others for all of his problems]]. Yet all he needs is a lil push to turn him back into TheEeyore
---> '''Daxo:''' while yes ryoga has been a good boy and has controlled his needs to kill ppl i dont think his hope is really high right now, and we have seen time after time that it only needs a lil push to make him go berserker
** Mousse’s inability to except the fact that he can’t force Shampoo to love him to the point of coming up with a plan with Jinx that is most assuredly [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption doomed to fail]].
** Back in Dark Titan’s T-Ryoga attempted to teach Terra the incredibly dangerous Bakusai Tenketsu nearly killing them both. Yet when X-Com Ryoga gave him the Double Circulation Array the first thing he did was teach it to Starfire and Jinx.
** The perception of T-Ryouga and others "choosing" Jinx over her setting Starfire off (among other things.) was a neat echo of Trigon corrupted Raven's own tantrum back in the Azarath arc.
** Starfire herself lampshaded the fact that her increasing HumansAreBastards mentality causes this putting herself and others in danger numerous times.
** in all of Lathis’ fics the overall lesson that T-Ryoga learns is that comparatively his problems aren’t that bad and to stop wangsting and [[NeverMyFault blaming others for all of his problems]]. Yet all he needs is a lil push to turn him back into TheEeyore
---> '''Daxo:''' while yes ryoga has been a good boy and has controlled his needs to kill ppl i dont think his hope is really high right now, and we have seen time after time that it only needs a lil push to make him go berserker
** Mousse’s inability to except the fact that he can’t force Shampoo to love him to the point of coming up with a plan with Jinx that is most assuredly [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption doomed to fail]].
** Back in Dark Titan’s T-Ryoga attempted to teach Terra the incredibly dangerous Bakusai Tenketsu nearly killing them both. Yet when X-Com Ryoga gave him the Double Circulation Array the first thing he did was teach it to Starfire and Jinx.
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** At the start of TheRoadToCydonia ''The Road to Cydonia'', Nabiki had a HeelRealization after someone she tried to blackmail killed themselves. However in this fic she is laughingly joking about the time she sold Ranma to the Triads to get out of a debt.
** The perception ofT-Ryouga T-Ryoga and others "choosing" Jinx over her setting Starfire off (among other things.) was a neat echo of Trigon corrupted Raven's own tantrum back in the Azarath arc.
arc.
** Starfire herself lampshaded the fact that her increasing HumansAreBastards mentality causes this putting herself and others in danger numeroustimes.
times.
**in In all of Lathis’ Lathis' fics the overall lesson that T-Ryoga learns is that comparatively his problems aren’t aren't that bad and to stop wangsting and [[NeverMyFault blaming others for all of his problems]]. Yet all he needs is a lil push to turn him back into TheEeyore
---> '''Daxo:'''TheEeyore
--->'''Daxo:''' while yes ryoga has been a good boy and has controlled his needs to kill ppl i dont think his hope is really high right now, and we have seen time after time that it only needs a lil push to make him go berserker
**Mousse’s Mousse's inability to except the fact that he can’t can't force Shampoo to love him to the point of coming up with a plan with Jinx that is most assuredly [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption doomed to fail]].
fail]].
** Back in DarkTitan’s Titan's T-Ryoga attempted to teach Terra the incredibly dangerous Bakusai Tenketsu nearly killing them both. Yet when X-Com Ryoga gave him the Double Circulation Array the first thing he did was teach it to Starfire and Jinx.
** The perception of
** Starfire herself lampshaded the fact that her increasing HumansAreBastards mentality causes this putting herself and others in danger numerous
**
---> '''Daxo:'''
--->'''Daxo:''' while yes ryoga has been a good boy and has controlled his needs to kill ppl i dont think his hope is really high right now, and we have seen time after time that it only needs a lil push to make him go berserker
**
** Back in Dark
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* AllAmazonsWantHercules: It took a lot of willpower for Shampoo not to attempt to jump Ranma’s bones after seeing him cut loose and wreak havoc among a deserving and hated enemy.
* AllJustADream: Raven’s date turned out to be this.
* AllJustADream: Raven’s date turned out to be this.
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* AllAmazonsWantHercules: It took a lot of willpower for Shampoo not to attempt to jump Ranma’s Ranma's bones after seeing him cut loose and wreak havoc among a deserving and hated enemy.
* AllJustADream:Raven’s Raven's date turned out to be this.
* AllJustADream:
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* AlternateUniverse: There's the ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'' world and the ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' world, as well as several other unnamed alternate universes.
* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Trenhard Cologne to the original, Cologne is a technique genius however the Trenchard version has all the originals techniques, plus a dozen or more others stolen from hunted down martial artists, and she seems to have amped most of those up even further given how she cleaned Elder Cologne's clock when they fought.
** While Juliet and India are very good marksmen they aren’t exceptional. Almost all of them are in the top one third on-base, but there are many X-COM veterans who can still give them a good thumping, most notably Hotel Squad, Seiran's elite Powered Armored team.
* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Trenhard Cologne to the original, Cologne is a technique genius however the Trenchard version has all the originals techniques, plus a dozen or more others stolen from hunted down martial artists, and she seems to have amped most of those up even further given how she cleaned Elder Cologne's clock when they fought.
** While Juliet and India are very good marksmen they aren’t exceptional. Almost all of them are in the top one third on-base, but there are many X-COM veterans who can still give them a good thumping, most notably Hotel Squad, Seiran's elite Powered Armored team.
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* AlternateUniverse: There's the ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'' ''Fanfic/TheRoadToCydonia'' world and the ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' ''Fanfic/DarkTitans'' world, as well as several other unnamed alternate universes.
* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Trenhard Cologne to the original, Cologne is a technique genius however the Trenchard version has all the originals techniques, plus a dozen or more others stolen from hunted down martial artists, and she seems to have amped most of those up even further given how she cleaned Elder Cologne's clock when theyfought.
fought.
** While Juliet and India are very good marksmen theyaren’t aren't exceptional. Almost all of them are in the top one third on-base, but there are many X-COM veterans who can still give them a good thumping, most notably Hotel Squad, Seiran's elite Powered Armored team.
* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Trenhard Cologne to the original, Cologne is a technique genius however the Trenchard version has all the originals techniques, plus a dozen or more others stolen from hunted down martial artists, and she seems to have amped most of those up even further given how she cleaned Elder Cologne's clock when they
** While Juliet and India are very good marksmen they
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* * AmnesiacLover: [[spoiler:Raven did some editing to Jinx's mind. Now she isn't in love with Ryouga, and doesn't remember ever being in love with him, despite remembering who he is. ]]
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* * AmnesiacLover: [[spoiler:Raven did some editing to Jinx's mind. Now she isn't in love with Ryouga, Ryoga, and doesn't remember ever being in love with him, despite remembering who he is. ]]
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--> '''Cyborg:''' Heh, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas, eh?
--> '''Starfire:''' Why no, friend Cyborg. I was born in the Vegan system, and I did not stay there.
--> '''Cyborg:''' No, no, that's not what I - y'know, never mind.
--> '''Starfire:''' Why no, friend Cyborg. I was born in the Vegan system, and I did not stay there.
--> '''Cyborg:''' No, no, that's not what I - y'know, never mind.
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'''Starfire:''' Why no, friend Cyborg. I was born in the Vegan system, and I did not stay
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'''Cyborg:''' No, no, that's not what I
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* AnimalMotif: Both Ryougas think that Ranma has a Tiger motif.
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* AnimalMotif: Both Ryougas Ryogas think that Ranma has a Tiger motif.
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* AntiHero: DT Ryouga, Raven, and Ranma are types II, but Raven is quickly marching downwards lately. Since arriving in the X-COM-verse, she's lost her telekinetic powers, but gained the ability to possess the enemy to turn them into kamikaze meat-puppets, and telepathically deliberately inflicted extreme pain on a good friend (Cyborg). X-COM Ryoga is either an extreme type III or a type IV.
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* AntiHero: DT Ryouga, Ryoga, Raven, and Ranma are types II, but Raven is quickly marching downwards lately. Since arriving in the X-COM-verse, she's lost her telekinetic powers, but gained the ability to possess the enemy to turn them into kamikaze meat-puppets, and telepathically deliberately inflicted extreme pain on a good friend (Cyborg). X-COM Ryoga is either an extreme type III or a type IV.
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* ArtisticLicense: In Universe Kuno’s rendition of what happened in the hulk dimension had him come out as an epic samurai legend.
* AssimilationBackfire: Averted when Ukyo used to Corpse Lantern Ring to absorb the power of the remaining rings. Since she didn’t have a working conduit to the battery on Oa she had to purify the energy she absorbed within her own body while her body rejected it for awhile she was eventually fine.
* AssimilationBackfire: Averted when Ukyo used to Corpse Lantern Ring to absorb the power of the remaining rings. Since she didn’t have a working conduit to the battery on Oa she had to purify the energy she absorbed within her own body while her body rejected it for awhile she was eventually fine.
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* ArtisticLicense: In Universe Kuno’s Kuno's rendition of what happened in the hulk dimension had him come out as an epic samurai legend.
* AssimilationBackfire: Averted when Ukyo used to Corpse Lantern Ring to absorb the power of the remaining rings. Since shedidn’t didn't have a working conduit to the battery on Oa she had to purify the energy she absorbed within her own body while her body rejected it for awhile she was eventually fine.
* AssimilationBackfire: Averted when Ukyo used to Corpse Lantern Ring to absorb the power of the remaining rings. Since she
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* TheAtoner: Titans Ryouga
* AwesomeButImpractical: This is Cyborg’s usual MO which causes some friction with the far more practicle X-Com
* AwesomeButImpractical: This is Cyborg’s usual MO which causes some friction with the far more practicle X-Com
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* TheAtoner: Titans Ryouga
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* AwesomeButImpractical: This isCyborg’s Cyborg's usual MO which causes some friction with the far more practicle X-Com
* AwesomeButImpractical: This is
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** Kuno’s speeches while epic when your half dead they take up too much energy.
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** Kuno’s Kuno's speeches while epic when your half dead they take up too much energy.
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* * BattleAura: All of India Squad and Juliet Squad, as well as Jinx, Raven, Starfire, and Titans Ryouga.
* BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind: Akira and Jinx were dragged into one of these while attempting to escape the Ethereal
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Despite knowing that Ryoga and Jinx were mentally coerced into loving each other. They kept stressing to Raven that she missed her chance and that if she wanted a shot at Ryoga she had to take it. Boy did that blow up in there face.
--> '''Raven''': It didn't matter what Starfire or Cyborg thought, either. Neither of them were involved; they had no stake in the matter at all. The alien and the cyborg had no real idea what had been done to both Ryouga and Jinx, which made it all the more irritating that they dared to interfere with her desires.
* BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind: Akira and Jinx were dragged into one of these while attempting to escape the Ethereal
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Despite knowing that Ryoga and Jinx were mentally coerced into loving each other. They kept stressing to Raven that she missed her chance and that if she wanted a shot at Ryoga she had to take it. Boy did that blow up in there face.
--> '''Raven''': It didn't matter what Starfire or Cyborg thought, either. Neither of them were involved; they had no stake in the matter at all. The alien and the cyborg had no real idea what had been done to both Ryouga and Jinx, which made it all the more irritating that they dared to interfere with her desires.
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* * BattleAura: All of India Squad and Juliet Squad, as well as Jinx, Raven, Starfire, and Titans Ryouga.
Ryoga.
* BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind: Akira and Jinx were dragged into one of these while attempting to escape theEthereal
Ethereal
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Despite knowing that Ryoga and Jinx were mentally coerced into loving each other. They kept stressing to Raven that she missed her chance and that if she wanted a shot at Ryoga she had to take it. Boy did that blow up in thereface.
--> '''Raven''':face.
-->'''Raven:''' It didn't matter what Starfire or Cyborg thought, either. Neither of them were involved; they had no stake in the matter at all. The alien and the cyborg had no real idea what had been done to bothRyouga Ryoga and Jinx, which made it all the more irritating that they dared to interfere with her desires.
* BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind: Akira and Jinx were dragged into one of these while attempting to escape the
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Despite knowing that Ryoga and Jinx were mentally coerced into loving each other. They kept stressing to Raven that she missed her chance and that if she wanted a shot at Ryoga she had to take it. Boy did that blow up in there
--> '''Raven''':
-->'''Raven:''' It didn't matter what Starfire or Cyborg thought, either. Neither of them were involved; they had no stake in the matter at all. The alien and the cyborg had no real idea what had been done to both
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* TheBerserker: Trencard Saffron’s attacks don't really distinguish between friend and foe making him an effective, but imperfect weapon.
* BetterToDieThanBeKilled: The Hishou Kouryuu Ha a technique that combines the perfect she shi hokodan and earth ki that Ryoga used on Ukyo was meant to invoke this.
* BewareTheNiceOnes: It’s easy to forget that Starfire was trained in TheSpartanWay, but she actually went blood knight for a second when she fought the Chinese military.
* BetterToDieThanBeKilled: The Hishou Kouryuu Ha a technique that combines the perfect she shi hokodan and earth ki that Ryoga used on Ukyo was meant to invoke this.
* BewareTheNiceOnes: It’s easy to forget that Starfire was trained in TheSpartanWay, but she actually went blood knight for a second when she fought the Chinese military.
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* TheBerserker: Trencard Saffron’s Saffron's attacks don't really distinguish between friend and foe making him an effective, but imperfect weapon.
* BetterToDieThanBeKilled: The Hishou Kouryuu Ha a technique that combines the perfect she shi hokodan and earth ki that Ryoga used on Ukyo was meant to invokethis.
this.
* BewareTheNiceOnes:It’s It's easy to forget that Starfire was trained in TheSpartanWay, but she actually went blood knight for a second when she fought the Chinese military.
* BetterToDieThanBeKilled: The Hishou Kouryuu Ha a technique that combines the perfect she shi hokodan and earth ki that Ryoga used on Ukyo was meant to invoke
* BewareTheNiceOnes:
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* BitchInSheepsClothing: Jinx to Shampoo
** A huge BerserkButton for Shampoo is the fact that it is incredibly obvious yet nobody notices.
--> '''Ukyo:''' Ranma told us to play nice, and then you go and just openly insult the girl in front of everyone? As much as I hate to admit it, she hasn't even done anything to be too annoying lately. We're supposed to be the adults here, remember? What brought that on?
--> '''Shampoo:''' Nothing to be annoying? You have pancake batter in your ears? Every word that spills past her lips is a thinly veiled challenge. Stupid girl just asking for me to demonstrate what I do to obstacles like her.
* BlackAndGrayMorality: WordOfGod this is the reason the story doesn’t go into Soldier’s vs Superheroes much as killing an opponent is easier than taking them alive.
--> '''Lathis''': Granted, we don't get to see too much of this, since by their very nature, X-COM opponents are impossible to take alive (for long). But one of the reasons we went with Titans into X-COM as opposed to X-COM into Titans is the fact that, after the first fight, all of the X-Com teams would likely be on the run from the Justice League after they mass scattered their first villain with hot plasma
** The problem is that this is a pretty black and white summerization of the characters, when the entire story has been largely about shades of grey - especially with the Titans, who do normally work on the white sides of the law, but must now by environmental necessity step over to the darker half.
** It’s more a case of SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. The Titans come from a idealistic universe where godlike entities see(some) humans as equals. X-Com is set in a cynical Warhammer universe with no God-Emperor in sight.
** A huge BerserkButton for Shampoo is the fact that it is incredibly obvious yet nobody notices.
--> '''Ukyo:''' Ranma told us to play nice, and then you go and just openly insult the girl in front of everyone? As much as I hate to admit it, she hasn't even done anything to be too annoying lately. We're supposed to be the adults here, remember? What brought that on?
--> '''Shampoo:''' Nothing to be annoying? You have pancake batter in your ears? Every word that spills past her lips is a thinly veiled challenge. Stupid girl just asking for me to demonstrate what I do to obstacles like her.
* BlackAndGrayMorality: WordOfGod this is the reason the story doesn’t go into Soldier’s vs Superheroes much as killing an opponent is easier than taking them alive.
--> '''Lathis''': Granted, we don't get to see too much of this, since by their very nature, X-COM opponents are impossible to take alive (for long). But one of the reasons we went with Titans into X-COM as opposed to X-COM into Titans is the fact that, after the first fight, all of the X-Com teams would likely be on the run from the Justice League after they mass scattered their first villain with hot plasma
** The problem is that this is a pretty black and white summerization of the characters, when the entire story has been largely about shades of grey - especially with the Titans, who do normally work on the white sides of the law, but must now by environmental necessity step over to the darker half.
** It’s more a case of SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. The Titans come from a idealistic universe where godlike entities see(some) humans as equals. X-Com is set in a cynical Warhammer universe with no God-Emperor in sight.
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* BitchInSheepsClothing: Jinx to Shampoo
**Shampoo. A huge BerserkButton for Shampoo is the fact that it is incredibly obvious yet nobody notices.
--> '''Ukyo:''' -->'''Ukyo:''' Ranma told us to play nice, and then you go and just openly insult the girl in front of everyone? As much as I hate to admit it, she hasn't even done anything to be too annoying lately. We're supposed to be the adults here, remember? What brought that on?
-->on?\\
'''Shampoo:''' Nothing to be annoying? You have pancake batter in your ears? Every word that spills past her lips is a thinly veiled challenge. Stupid girl just asking for me to demonstrate what I do to obstacles like her.
* BlackAndGrayMorality: WordOfGod this is the reason the storydoesn’t doesn't go into Soldier’s Soldier's vs Superheroes much as killing an opponent is easier than taking them alive.
--> '''Lathis''': -->'''Lathis''': Granted, we don't get to see too much of this, since by their very nature, X-COM opponents are impossible to take alive (for long). But one of the reasons we went with Titans into X-COM as opposed to X-COM into Titans is the fact that, after the first fight, all of the X-Com teams would likely be on the run from the Justice League after they mass scattered their first villain with hot plasma
plasma
** The problem is that this is a pretty black and white summerization of the characters, when the entire story has been largely about shades of grey- -- especially with the Titans, who do normally work on the white sides of the law, but must now by environmental necessity step over to the darker half.
half.
**It’s It's more a case of SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. The Titans come from a idealistic universe where godlike entities see(some) humans as equals. X-Com is set in a cynical Warhammer universe with no God-Emperor in sight.
**
-->
'''Shampoo:''' Nothing to be annoying? You have pancake batter in your ears? Every word that spills past her lips is a thinly veiled challenge. Stupid girl just asking for me to demonstrate what I do to obstacles like her.
* BlackAndGrayMorality: WordOfGod this is the reason the story
** The problem is that this is a pretty black and white summerization of the characters, when the entire story has been largely about shades of grey
**
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** due to the fact that both Thanagarians and Gordanians have a preference for melee and taking trophies in battle, Thanagarian ship design is very strange. The outer hull is actually shockingly thin, just as in Starcrossed and is veryheavily compartmentalized, permitting sections to be sealed off while still allowing reinforcements in or out, there literally are airlocks connecting various sections inside the ship. To human’s it's supposed to be a kind of crazy way to design a warship, but then Human’s normally wouldn't be flying haphazardly through space trying to get into the enemy ship to smash his head in with a magical mace.
** The Titan’s quickly learn that there is no HeroInsurance in the X-com universe and the acts of wanton destruction usually depicted in the DC Universe quickly got them labeled as terrorist. The fact that they are either unable or simply refuse to except this fact is causes a lot of problems within the story.
* BodyHorror: CloneDegeneration is a natural by product of introducing Etherial DNA to the human body.
* BondVillainStupidity: The Student’s of HIVE Academy are shown an education video where Jenny aka Blast Girl did exactly this to Atomic Boy.
** Inverted T-Ryoga’s hypocrisy finally came back to bite him in the butt during his untenth the reason you suck speech to ukyou as not only he tell her the weakness of the green lantern ring, but that revelation allowed her to figure out his strategy.
** The Titan’s quickly learn that there is no HeroInsurance in the X-com universe and the acts of wanton destruction usually depicted in the DC Universe quickly got them labeled as terrorist. The fact that they are either unable or simply refuse to except this fact is causes a lot of problems within the story.
* BodyHorror: CloneDegeneration is a natural by product of introducing Etherial DNA to the human body.
* BondVillainStupidity: The Student’s of HIVE Academy are shown an education video where Jenny aka Blast Girl did exactly this to Atomic Boy.
** Inverted T-Ryoga’s hypocrisy finally came back to bite him in the butt during his untenth the reason you suck speech to ukyou as not only he tell her the weakness of the green lantern ring, but that revelation allowed her to figure out his strategy.
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** due to the fact that both Thanagarians and Gordanians have a preference for melee and taking trophies in battle, Thanagarian ship design is very strange. The outer hull is actually shockingly thin, just as in Starcrossed and is veryheavily compartmentalized, permitting sections to be sealed off while still allowing reinforcements in or out, there literally are airlocks connecting various sections inside the ship. To human’s human's it's supposed to be a kind of crazy way to design a warship, but then Human’s Human's normally wouldn't be flying haphazardly through space trying to get into the enemy ship to smash his head in with a magical mace.
mace.
** TheTitan’s Titan's quickly learn that there is no HeroInsurance in the X-com universe and the acts of wanton destruction usually depicted in the DC Universe quickly got them labeled as terrorist. The fact that they are either unable or simply refuse to except this fact is causes a lot of problems within the story.
story.
* BodyHorror: CloneDegeneration is a natural by product of introducing Etherial DNA to the humanbody.
body.
* BondVillainStupidity: TheStudent’s Student's of HIVE Academy are shown an education video where Jenny aka Blast Girl did exactly this to Atomic Boy.
** InvertedT-Ryoga’s T-Ryoga's hypocrisy finally came back to bite him in the butt during his untenth the reason you suck speech to ukyou as not only he tell her the weakness of the green lantern ring, but that revelation allowed her to figure out his strategy. strategy.
** The
* BodyHorror: CloneDegeneration is a natural by product of introducing Etherial DNA to the human
* BondVillainStupidity: The
** Inverted
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** Averted since Ranma’s attack since the Hiryu Shoten Overkill was essentially a bigger version of the Hiryu Shoten Ha. Since Saffron’s ability to fly means he’s immune to it him creating a counter is essentially pointless.
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** Averted since Ranma’s Ranma's attack since the Hiryu Shoten Overkill was essentially a bigger version of the Hiryu Shoten Ha. Since Saffron’s Saffron's ability to fly means he’s he's immune to it him creating a counter is essentially pointless. pointless.
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* BrainwashResidue: Ryouga, despite overcoming [[spoiler: Raven's]] brainwashing in order to save Jinx, clearly has some left over. Likewise, his love for Jinx may or may not be entirely due to this.
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* BrainwashResidue: Ryouga, Ryoga, despite overcoming [[spoiler: Raven's]] brainwashing in order to save Jinx, clearly has some left over. Likewise, his love for Jinx may or may not be entirely due to this.
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* BrickJoke: Back in ''FanFic/DarkTitans'', Ryouga and Cyborg have a conversation about the T-Brella Cyborg made for Ryouga. Most of the conversation consists of the words "Helicopter Option" (much to Robin's annoyance). It is then never mentioned again in all of ''Dark Titans''. However, after the fight with Saffron, as [[spoiler: Starfire is plummeting helplessly from the upper atmosphere toward the ground,]] we get this:
-->'''X-COM Ryouga:''' "Don't tell me. Your Ryouga… His umbrella. Does he really have something crazy like that?"
-->'''X-COM Ryouga:''' "Don't tell me. Your Ryouga… His umbrella. Does he really have something crazy like that?"
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* BrickJoke: Back in ''FanFic/DarkTitans'', Ryouga Ryoga and Cyborg have a conversation about the T-Brella Cyborg made for Ryouga.Ryoga. Most of the conversation consists of the words "Helicopter Option" (much to Robin's annoyance). It is then never mentioned again in all of ''Dark Titans''. However, after the fight with Saffron, as [[spoiler: Starfire is plummeting helplessly from the upper atmosphere toward the ground,]] we get this:
-->'''X-COMRyouga:''' Ryoga:''' "Don't tell me. Your Ryouga… Ryoga… His umbrella. Does he really have something crazy like that?"
-->'''X-COM
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** Taking Ryoga’s [[MoralMyopia advice]] everyone gave Jinx leeway for her jerkass behavior. However this only gave her a chance to take it UpToEleven.
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** Taking Ryoga’s Ryoga's [[MoralMyopia advice]] everyone gave Jinx leeway for her jerkass behavior. However this only gave her a chance to take it UpToEleven.
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* CallBack: Cyborg’s scenes in NYC had one of these to the Teen Titan episode when Star went to the future and found the team broken up with out her.
* TheCameo: Slade Wilson. In ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'' world, he's just a guy working for X-COM.
* TheCameo: Slade Wilson. In ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'' world, he's just a guy working for X-COM.
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* CallBack: Cyborg’s Cyborg's scenes in NYC had one of these to the Teen Titan episode when Star went to the future and found the team broken up with out her.
* TheCameo: Slade Wilson. In''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'' ''Fanfic/TheRoadToCydonia'' world, he's just a guy working for X-COM.
* TheCameo: Slade Wilson. In
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* CaptainObvious: As stated by Mint Starfire really doesn’t like Herb
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* CaptainObvious: As stated by Mint Starfire really doesn’t doesn't like Herb
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* CassandraTruth: At first due to his age Cyborg wasn’t taken very seriously in X-com for example upon seeing his theoretical musings on a dimensional portal Jalila thought it was a model of a Stargate.
** WordOfGod states that Starfire’s encounter was written to evoke anger and disgust in the reader. [[StrawmanHasAPoint But, Starfire's story was so outlandish there was no way the higher ups would believe it without irrefutable proof]].
--> '''Capn’n Chryssalid''': Starfire was assumed to be under alien control. X-COM was called in because the PRC had just had a historic building destroyed (the clocktower), people were in a panic, and their own attempt to handle things had blown up in their face (the ambush). They know about Trenchards. They know that the Sirius Group not only had chemical weapons, but that they were willing to use them in terrorist attacks. ALL the Intel indicated that Starfire was an alien terror unit... except that she hadn't actually killed anyone. When Romeo Squad finally caught up to her, Herb could tell this. He still thought she was either an alien or a manufactured Trenchard ("one of Cologne's experiments"), but he could tell that she had no murderous or "killing" intention. He comments on this to her. But she is still an alien and she still needed to be subdued and interrogated. This is what X-COM does and so they subdued her and, when she spun a yarn that contradicted reality as they understood it, they mind probed her to get the real truth.
** WordOfGod states that Starfire’s encounter was written to evoke anger and disgust in the reader. [[StrawmanHasAPoint But, Starfire's story was so outlandish there was no way the higher ups would believe it without irrefutable proof]].
--> '''Capn’n Chryssalid''': Starfire was assumed to be under alien control. X-COM was called in because the PRC had just had a historic building destroyed (the clocktower), people were in a panic, and their own attempt to handle things had blown up in their face (the ambush). They know about Trenchards. They know that the Sirius Group not only had chemical weapons, but that they were willing to use them in terrorist attacks. ALL the Intel indicated that Starfire was an alien terror unit... except that she hadn't actually killed anyone. When Romeo Squad finally caught up to her, Herb could tell this. He still thought she was either an alien or a manufactured Trenchard ("one of Cologne's experiments"), but he could tell that she had no murderous or "killing" intention. He comments on this to her. But she is still an alien and she still needed to be subdued and interrogated. This is what X-COM does and so they subdued her and, when she spun a yarn that contradicted reality as they understood it, they mind probed her to get the real truth.
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* CassandraTruth: CassandraTruth:
** At first due to his age Cyborgwasn’t wasn't taken very seriously in X-com for example upon seeing his theoretical musings on a dimensional portal Jalila thought it was a model of a Stargate.
** WordOfGod states thatStarfire’s Starfire's encounter was written to evoke anger and disgust in the reader. [[StrawmanHasAPoint But, Starfire's story was so outlandish there was no way the higher ups would believe it without irrefutable proof]].
--> '''Capn’n Chryssalid''': --->'''Capn'n Chryssalid:''' Starfire was assumed to be under alien control. X-COM was called in because the PRC had just had a historic building destroyed (the clocktower), people were in a panic, and their own attempt to handle things had blown up in their face (the ambush). They know about Trenchards. They know that the Sirius Group not only had chemical weapons, but that they were willing to use them in terrorist attacks. ALL the Intel indicated that Starfire was an alien terror unit... except that she hadn't actually killed anyone. When Romeo Squad finally caught up to her, Herb could tell this. He still thought she was either an alien or a manufactured Trenchard ("one of Cologne's experiments"), but he could tell that she had no murderous or "killing" intention. He comments on this to her. But she is still an alien and she still needed to be subdued and interrogated. This is what X-COM does and so they subdued her and, when she spun a yarn that contradicted reality as they understood it, they mind probed her to get the real truth.
** At first due to his age Cyborg
** WordOfGod states that
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* ChefOfIron: Thank’s to MartialArtsAndCrafts all the restaurant owner’s in nerima were this. At least until Ukyo and Shampoo ran them off.
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* ChefOfIron: Thank’s Thank's to MartialArtsAndCrafts all the restaurant owner’s owner's in nerima were this. At least until Ukyo and Shampoo ran them off.
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* ChekhovsSkill: An indirect example. Early on in ''TALB'', Cologne enlists Starfire's help to teach Ryouga the [[FinishingMove Hiryu Shoten Ha]] but doesn't bother to teach him the basic steps, saying that Ryouga already knows how it's done [[ContinuityNod because he helped Ranma develop the same skill]] earlier in the main series. Sure enough, [[spoiler: Starfire winds up using the techniques she learned by training with Ryouga to perform her own Hiryu Shoten Ha before the series is over.]]
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* ChekhovsSkill: An indirect example. Early on in ''TALB'', Cologne enlists Starfire's help to teach Ryouga Ryoga the [[FinishingMove Hiryu Shoten Ha]] but doesn't bother to teach him the basic steps, saying that Ryouga Ryoga already knows how it's done [[ContinuityNod because he helped Ranma develop the same skill]] earlier in the main series. Sure enough, [[spoiler: Starfire winds up using the techniques she learned by training with Ryouga Ryoga to perform her own Hiryu Shoten Ha before the series is over.]]
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** Since ''FanFic/DarkTitans'', Ryouga has been experimenting with [[ElementalPowers Earth Elemental Ki]], which manifests as a yellow aura. This is how he defeats [[spoiler: a crazed Ukyou empowered by a Green Lantern ring, as Green Lantern rings cannot affect the color yellow.]]
** Kuno’s ridiculously high level of psi strength and defense mentioned in The Road to Cydonia allowed him to break Raven’s mental domination.
** Ranma’s mastery of emotive ki manipulation developed when he created the moko takabisha allowed him to create a psionic disruption pulse.
*** Due to the repeated usage of ForgotAboutHisPowers this trope is also averted as many times as it’s played straight. For example during their [[LetsYouAndHimFight match against Starfire and T-Ryoga]] both Herb and X-Ryoga mentioned that Ranma intentionally goaded them into creating counters for the Hiryu Shoten Ha allowing him to create counters to their counters. However during the battle against Saffron Ranma was left gapping in surprise at the fact that someone was able to counter the technique.
** Like she did in her battle with Killer Croc Jinx was able to use her magical abilities to imitate Happosai’s finger block technique against Starfire.
** The training Ukyo went through for her match against Konatsu helped her in mastering her GreenLanternRing in her match against T-Ryoga.
** Kuno’s ridiculously high level of psi strength and defense mentioned in The Road to Cydonia allowed him to break Raven’s mental domination.
** Ranma’s mastery of emotive ki manipulation developed when he created the moko takabisha allowed him to create a psionic disruption pulse.
*** Due to the repeated usage of ForgotAboutHisPowers this trope is also averted as many times as it’s played straight. For example during their [[LetsYouAndHimFight match against Starfire and T-Ryoga]] both Herb and X-Ryoga mentioned that Ranma intentionally goaded them into creating counters for the Hiryu Shoten Ha allowing him to create counters to their counters. However during the battle against Saffron Ranma was left gapping in surprise at the fact that someone was able to counter the technique.
** Like she did in her battle with Killer Croc Jinx was able to use her magical abilities to imitate Happosai’s finger block technique against Starfire.
** The training Ukyo went through for her match against Konatsu helped her in mastering her GreenLanternRing in her match against T-Ryoga.
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** Since ''FanFic/DarkTitans'', Ryouga Ryoga has been experimenting with [[ElementalPowers Earth Elemental Ki]], which manifests as a yellow aura. This is how he defeats [[spoiler: a crazed Ukyou empowered by a Green Lantern ring, as Green Lantern rings cannot affect the color yellow.]]
**Kuno’s Kuno's ridiculously high level of psi strength and defense mentioned in The Road to Cydonia allowed him to break Raven’s Raven's mental domination.
domination.
**Ranma’s Ranma's mastery of emotive ki manipulation developed when he created the moko takabisha allowed him to create a psionic disruption pulse.
*** Due to the repeated usage of ForgotAboutHisPowers this trope is also averted as many times asit’s it's played straight. For example during their [[LetsYouAndHimFight match against Starfire and T-Ryoga]] both Herb and X-Ryoga mentioned that Ranma intentionally goaded them into creating counters for the Hiryu Shoten Ha allowing him to create counters to their counters. However during the battle against Saffron Ranma was left gapping in surprise at the fact that someone was able to counter the technique.
technique.
** Like she did in her battle with Killer Croc Jinx was able to use her magical abilities to imitateHapposai’s Happosai's finger block technique against Starfire.
Starfire.
** The training Ukyo went through for her match against Konatsu helped her in mastering her GreenLanternRing in her match against T-Ryoga.
**
**
*** Due to the repeated usage of ForgotAboutHisPowers this trope is also averted as many times as
** Like she did in her battle with Killer Croc Jinx was able to use her magical abilities to imitate
** The training Ukyo went through for her match against Konatsu helped her in mastering her GreenLanternRing in her match against T-Ryoga.
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--> '''X-com Ryoga''': Yes, because with your manly charms women can't help but fall head over heels in love with you. I have the same problem.
* {{Cloudcuckoolander}}: Mitsuko Hibiki, upon finding out about Titan Ryoga she gushed that Nodoka would be jealous about the fact that she had another son.
* CoitusInterruptus: The one night Nabiki and Ryoga had time to be alone they were interrupted by the Hostile Incursion alarm.
* {{Cloudcuckoolander}}: Mitsuko Hibiki, upon finding out about Titan Ryoga she gushed that Nodoka would be jealous about the fact that she had another son.
* CoitusInterruptus: The one night Nabiki and Ryoga had time to be alone they were interrupted by the Hostile Incursion alarm.
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* {{Cloudcuckoolander}}: Mitsuko Hibiki, upon finding out about Titan Ryoga she gushed that Nodoka would be jealous about the fact that she had another
* CoitusInterruptus: The one night Nabiki and Ryoga had time to be alone they were interrupted by the Hostile Incursion alarm.
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* CombinationAttack: The Hiryu Shoten Ha generated by Ranma and Starfire but powered by Ryouga and Ryouga's shishi houkodans.
* ComicallyMissingThePoint: After the EDC test run Cyborg quickly ran to find his fellow Titans to convince them not to split up the team, only to find out that they had already made that decision. Cyborg’s response, yell at them for making decisions without knowing all the facts.
* TheComicallySerious: Agent Gerrera
* ComicallyMissingThePoint: After the EDC test run Cyborg quickly ran to find his fellow Titans to convince them not to split up the team, only to find out that they had already made that decision. Cyborg’s response, yell at them for making decisions without knowing all the facts.
* TheComicallySerious: Agent Gerrera
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* CombinationAttack: The Hiryu Shoten Ha generated by Ranma and Starfire but powered by Ryouga Ryoga and Ryouga's Ryoga's shishi houkodans.
* ComicallyMissingThePoint: After the EDC test run Cyborg quickly ran to find his fellow Titans to convince them not to split up the team, only to find out that they had already made that decision.Cyborg’s Cyborg's response, yell at them for making decisions without knowing all the facts.
facts.
* TheComicallySerious: AgentGerrera Gerrera
* ComicallyMissingThePoint: After the EDC test run Cyborg quickly ran to find his fellow Titans to convince them not to split up the team, only to find out that they had already made that decision.
* TheComicallySerious: Agent
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* CurbStompBattle: T-Ryoga’s battle against X-Ranma ended with him as a crumpled heap on the floor.
--> '''X-Ranma''': Hey, that wasn't half bad for a workout! Don't feel too bad 'bout losin', I am a Ryouga-defeating expert, after all! Anyway, I'll catch up with ya later.
** Because Starfire took [[InsaneTrollLogic Kuno’s vow not to let her kill Jinx as favoritism]] she ends up beating him within an inch of his life.
--> '''X-Ranma''': Hey, that wasn't half bad for a workout! Don't feel too bad 'bout losin', I am a Ryouga-defeating expert, after all! Anyway, I'll catch up with ya later.
** Because Starfire took [[InsaneTrollLogic Kuno’s vow not to let her kill Jinx as favoritism]] she ends up beating him within an inch of his life.
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* CurbStompBattle: T-Ryoga’s T-Ryoga's battle against X-Ranma ended ends with him as a crumpled heap on the floor.
--> '''X-Ranma''':floor.
-->'''X-Ranma:''' Hey, that wasn't half bad for a workout! Don't feel too bad 'bout losin', I am aRyouga-defeating Ryoga-defeating expert, after all! Anyway, I'll catch up with ya later.
** Because Starfire took [[InsaneTrollLogicKuno’s Kuno's vow not to let her kill Jinx as favoritism]] she ends up beating him within an inch of his life. life.
--> '''X-Ranma''':
-->'''X-Ranma:''' Hey, that wasn't half bad for a workout! Don't feel too bad 'bout losin', I am a
** Because Starfire took [[InsaneTrollLogic
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* DatingCatwoman: Hiva academy had an informative video on this trope
--> '''Video''': With the ever increasing diversity found in the workplace, it is all but guaranteed that at one point or another you will at least be tempted to consider a relationship with your do-gooder counterparts.
* DeadlyNosebleed: Raven, Ryouga, and Mousse all suffer them after attempting to use psychic attacks on [[spoiler: Slade]].
* DeadpanSnarker: Jinx
--> '''Video''': With the ever increasing diversity found in the workplace, it is all but guaranteed that at one point or another you will at least be tempted to consider a relationship with your do-gooder counterparts.
* DeadlyNosebleed: Raven, Ryouga, and Mousse all suffer them after attempting to use psychic attacks on [[spoiler: Slade]].
* DeadpanSnarker: Jinx
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* DatingCatwoman: Hiva academy had an informative video on this trope
--> '''Video''':trope.
-->'''Video:''' With theever increasing ever-increasing diversity found in the workplace, it is all but guaranteed that at one point or another you will at least be tempted to consider a relationship with your do-gooder counterparts.
* DeadlyNosebleed: Raven,Ryouga, Ryoga, and Mousse all suffer them after attempting to use psychic attacks on [[spoiler: Slade]].
* DeadpanSnarker:Jinx Jinx
--> '''Video''':
-->'''Video:''' With the
* DeadlyNosebleed: Raven,
* DeadpanSnarker:
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* {{Deprogramming}}: Ryouga refuses to let X-COM do this to him.
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* {{Deprogramming}}: Ryouga Ryoga refuses to let X-COM do this to him.
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* {{Determinator}}: Pretty much all of the Teen Titans, India Squad, and Juliet Squad, but special notice goes to Jinx and [[spoiler: Akari]]. They go on a hundred kilometer dash to the nearest city through a snow filled forest while fighting off armed aliens, fending off mental attacks by an Ethereal, and fending off large tracking monsters that were raised by [[spoiler: Akari]] herself, and all while dressed in a manner unsuited for the environment. Then, when [[spoiler: Akari's]] operation is sabotaged by X-COM Ryouga, Jinx immediately joins the Titans in a mission to hunt down and capture an Ethereal so that [[spoiler: they can replace the brain Ryouga destroyed,]] all on the off chance that the operation will save [[spoiler: Akari's]] life [[spoiler: without returning her to the Mind's control.]]
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* {{Determinator}}: Pretty much all of the Teen Titans, India Squad, and Juliet Squad, but special notice goes to Jinx and [[spoiler: Akari]]. They go on a hundred kilometer dash to the nearest city through a snow filled forest while fighting off armed aliens, fending off mental attacks by an Ethereal, and fending off large tracking monsters that were raised by [[spoiler: Akari]] herself, and all while dressed in a manner unsuited for the environment. Then, when [[spoiler: Akari's]] operation is sabotaged by X-COM Ryouga, Ryoga, Jinx immediately joins the Titans in a mission to hunt down and capture an Ethereal so that [[spoiler: they can replace the brain Ryouga Ryoga destroyed,]] all on the off chance that the operation will save [[spoiler: Akari's]] life [[spoiler: without returning her to the Mind's control.]]
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** The {{Irony}} of is that if they didn’t fight Revy and the others with such dogged determination they wouldn’t have raided the ship so thoroughly
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** The {{Irony}} of is that if they didn’t didn't fight Revy and the others with such dogged determination they wouldn’t wouldn't have raided the ship so thoroughly thoroughly
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*** It was both played straight and averted with Ukyo however. Ryoga’s unstoppable determination really did a number on her yet just like him she would not go down. Even after he discovered the weakness of GreenLanternRing she survived his ultimate technique and fought on.
--> '''Ukyo''': All that mattered was Hibiki. She could crush what was left of him with her bare hands. Even if her power was gone. Even if her hand was broken. Even if it felt like half of her ribs had collapsed in her chest. Even if her arms could barely move. Even if her legs felt like putty. Even if something inside was bleeding and split. Hibiki. She wasn't done yet.
*** It was then averted a millisecond later when she suddenly decided to have [[VillainBall Starfire fight him even though he was on his last leg.]]
--> '''Ukyo''': All that mattered was Hibiki. She could crush what was left of him with her bare hands. Even if her power was gone. Even if her hand was broken. Even if it felt like half of her ribs had collapsed in her chest. Even if her arms could barely move. Even if her legs felt like putty. Even if something inside was bleeding and split. Hibiki. She wasn't done yet.
*** It was then averted a millisecond later when she suddenly decided to have [[VillainBall Starfire fight him even though he was on his last leg.]]
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* DirtyCoward: Jinx can be seen as this at least emotionally as her usual M.O when she’s confronted with something hurtful is to run away. For example upon discovering Akari’s condition she fled both physically and mentally back to her time at the HIVE where no one was badder than her.
** T-Ryoga has shown to be an emotional coward as well the biggest example is that after TTLB Ryoga found solace in his relationship with Jinx despite knowing that they were both mentally compelled to love each other while never officially breaking it off with breaking it off with Raven and Starfire, due to guilt.. Then after Raven went nuts and erased Jinx’s attraction to Ryoga, he told her that they were now “even”.
*** One of his most repeated usage of this trope that he has used since DarkTitans is passive aggressive combat. Ryoga would repeatedly insult Ranma to make himself feel better. The Titan’s never took it seriously until [[WhatTheHellHero they found out that Terra did]]. In the X-Comverse every time something bad happened to him he would deliver a backhand insult to his either his counterpart or the others.
** The Guardians play this straight as stated by Tresspasser they would sacrifice a thousand Green Lanterns however he never once mentioned anything about them sacrificing themselves.
* DisneyAcidSequence: Raven was able to go to Azarath through one of these using a drug she got from X-Genma.
* DontYouDarePityMe: Reava to Starfire after she was attacked by a BrainwashedAndCrazy Ryu.
** T-Ryoga has shown to be an emotional coward as well the biggest example is that after TTLB Ryoga found solace in his relationship with Jinx despite knowing that they were both mentally compelled to love each other while never officially breaking it off with breaking it off with Raven and Starfire, due to guilt.. Then after Raven went nuts and erased Jinx’s attraction to Ryoga, he told her that they were now “even”.
*** One of his most repeated usage of this trope that he has used since DarkTitans is passive aggressive combat. Ryoga would repeatedly insult Ranma to make himself feel better. The Titan’s never took it seriously until [[WhatTheHellHero they found out that Terra did]]. In the X-Comverse every time something bad happened to him he would deliver a backhand insult to his either his counterpart or the others.
** The Guardians play this straight as stated by Tresspasser they would sacrifice a thousand Green Lanterns however he never once mentioned anything about them sacrificing themselves.
* DisneyAcidSequence: Raven was able to go to Azarath through one of these using a drug she got from X-Genma.
* DontYouDarePityMe: Reava to Starfire after she was attacked by a BrainwashedAndCrazy Ryu.
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* DirtyCoward: Jinx can be seen as this at least emotionally as her usual M.O when she’s she's confronted with something hurtful is to run away. For example upon discovering Akari’s Akari's condition she fled both physically and mentally back to her time at the HIVE where no one was badder than her.
** T-Ryoga has shown to be an emotional coward as well the biggest example is that after TTLB Ryoga found solace in his relationship with Jinx despite knowing that they were both mentally compelled to love each other while never officially breaking it off with breaking it off with Raven and Starfire, due to guilt.. Then after Raven went nuts and erasedJinx’s Jinx's attraction to Ryoga, he told her that they were now “even”.
*** One of his most repeated usage of this trope that he has used since DarkTitans is passive aggressive combat. Ryoga would repeatedly insult Ranma to make himself feel better. TheTitan’s Titan's never took it seriously until [[WhatTheHellHero they found out that Terra did]]. In the X-Comverse every time something bad happened to him he would deliver a backhand insult to his either his counterpart or the others.
others.
** The Guardians play this straight as stated by Tresspasser they would sacrifice a thousand Green Lanterns however he never once mentioned anything about them sacrificingthemselves.
themselves.
* DisneyAcidSequence: Raven was able to go to Azarath through one of these using a drug she got fromX-Genma.
X-Genma.
* DontYouDarePityMe: Reava to Starfire after she was attacked by a BrainwashedAndCrazy Ryu.
** T-Ryoga has shown to be an emotional coward as well the biggest example is that after TTLB Ryoga found solace in his relationship with Jinx despite knowing that they were both mentally compelled to love each other while never officially breaking it off with breaking it off with Raven and Starfire, due to guilt.. Then after Raven went nuts and erased
*** One of his most repeated usage of this trope that he has used since DarkTitans is passive aggressive combat. Ryoga would repeatedly insult Ranma to make himself feel better. The
** The Guardians play this straight as stated by Tresspasser they would sacrifice a thousand Green Lanterns however he never once mentioned anything about them sacrificing
* DisneyAcidSequence: Raven was able to go to Azarath through one of these using a drug she got from
* DontYouDarePityMe: Reava to Starfire after she was attacked by a BrainwashedAndCrazy Ryu.
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** Rage possesses the strongest ties to Father of all of Raven’s emotions. She was always filled with his hatred, filled to bursting with his fury. However once she entered the X-Comverse she was stripped of that fury and had to sustain herself only on the 'rage' of Raven herself who is not terribly prone to bouts of excessive emotion.
** The comparison of emotions to drug use is taken further after Raven became drunk on the dark side
--> '''Narrative''': The strength of his emotions, positive or negative, the intensity of his passions: they were simply intoxicating to the empathic woman. She wanted more; she wanted all he had to give.
* DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale: Jinx has repeatedly struck Ryoga either playfully or when angry many times hurting him. When questioned about the later WordOfGod played off these incidences as RuleOfFunny.
--> '''Jinx''': Look, either you can take the shirt off, or Ican take the shirt off. Depends on whether you think the 'My girlfriend shredded my shirt and tossed it to the wind' excuse will work on the quartermaster when you ask for another one.
** this is made all the more obvious when compared to DarkTitans where Raven became very concerned when she found out that Akane regularly hits Ranma when she’s angry. Yet she attacked Ryoga when he flirted with Starfire in her and Jinx.
--> '''Starfire''': Friend Ryouga, it is most inappropriate for you to have such thoughts for your sister. I hope Raven's negative reinforcement has taught you a suitable lesson.
* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale: Jinx and Ryoga’s entire relationship revolves around the fact that the Headmaster altered Ryouga's memories, to make him believe that he was in love with her by taking his existing memories with Raven and replacing them with Jinx. However despite this everyone treats it as true love.
** The comparison of emotions to drug use is taken further after Raven became drunk on the dark side
--> '''Narrative''': The strength of his emotions, positive or negative, the intensity of his passions: they were simply intoxicating to the empathic woman. She wanted more; she wanted all he had to give.
* DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale: Jinx has repeatedly struck Ryoga either playfully or when angry many times hurting him. When questioned about the later WordOfGod played off these incidences as RuleOfFunny.
--> '''Jinx''': Look, either you can take the shirt off, or Ican take the shirt off. Depends on whether you think the 'My girlfriend shredded my shirt and tossed it to the wind' excuse will work on the quartermaster when you ask for another one.
** this is made all the more obvious when compared to DarkTitans where Raven became very concerned when she found out that Akane regularly hits Ranma when she’s angry. Yet she attacked Ryoga when he flirted with Starfire in her and Jinx.
--> '''Starfire''': Friend Ryouga, it is most inappropriate for you to have such thoughts for your sister. I hope Raven's negative reinforcement has taught you a suitable lesson.
* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale: Jinx and Ryoga’s entire relationship revolves around the fact that the Headmaster altered Ryouga's memories, to make him believe that he was in love with her by taking his existing memories with Raven and replacing them with Jinx. However despite this everyone treats it as true love.
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** Rage possesses the strongest ties to Father of all of Raven’s Raven's emotions. She was always filled with his hatred, filled to bursting with his fury. However once she entered the X-Comverse she was stripped of that fury and had to sustain herself only on the 'rage' of Raven herself who is not terribly prone to bouts of excessive emotion.
** The comparison of emotions to drug use is taken further after Raven became drunk on the darkside
--> '''Narrative''':side
--->'''Narrative:''' The strength of his emotions, positive or negative, the intensity of his passions: they were simply intoxicating to the empathic woman. She wanted more; she wanted all he had to give.
*DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale: DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale:
** Jinx has repeatedly struck Ryoga either playfully or when angry many times hurting him. When questioned about the later WordOfGod played off these incidences asRuleOfFunny.
--> '''Jinx''':RuleOfFunny.
--->'''Jinx:''' Look, either you can take the shirt off, or Ican take the shirt off. Depends on whether you think the 'My girlfriend shredded my shirt and tossed it to the wind' excuse will work on the quartermaster when you ask for another one.
**this This is made all the more obvious when compared to DarkTitans ''Dark Titans'' where Raven became very concerned when she found out that Akane regularly hits Ranma when she’s she's angry. Yet she attacked Ryoga when he flirted with Starfire in her and Jinx.
--> '''Starfire''':Jinx.
--->'''Starfire:''' FriendRyouga, Ryoga, it is most inappropriate for you to have such thoughts for your sister. I hope Raven's negative reinforcement has taught you a suitable lesson.
*DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale: DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale:
** Jinx andRyoga’s Ryoga's entire relationship revolves around the fact that the Headmaster altered Ryouga's Ryoga's memories, to make him believe that he was in love with her by taking his existing memories with Raven and replacing them with Jinx. However However, despite this everyone treats it as true love. love.
** The comparison of emotions to drug use is taken further after Raven became drunk on the dark
--> '''Narrative''':
--->'''Narrative:''' The strength of his emotions, positive or negative, the intensity of his passions: they were simply intoxicating to the empathic woman. She wanted more; she wanted all he had to give.
*
** Jinx has repeatedly struck Ryoga either playfully or when angry many times hurting him. When questioned about the later WordOfGod played off these incidences as
--> '''Jinx''':
--->'''Jinx:''' Look, either you can take the shirt off, or Ican take the shirt off. Depends on whether you think the 'My girlfriend shredded my shirt and tossed it to the wind' excuse will work on the quartermaster when you ask for another one.
**
--> '''Starfire''':
--->'''Starfire:''' Friend
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** Jinx and
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--> '''Starfire''': Honestly, Starfire couldn't help but reflect, humans were such confusing creatures sometimes, and the males particularly so. Though, as of late, even the females had begun to show flaws in a disturbing quantity. She had never been fond of Jinx consorting with Ryouga, but now even her faith in Raven had been quite shaken by her actions in Azarath. Despite how things had either begun or ended, both women had, at one point or another, used mental coercion to force the poor boy to love them. It was… Disappointing.
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** Jinx seems to be a walking catalyst for TheWorfEffect and TookALevelInDumbass to the point where she might as well be renamed the Gambler Queen, as many of the plot points in the story couldn’t happen without these tropes. For example both Ranma and Starfire weren’t the most mentally and physically sound when they fought her.
** Ukyou was given a number of these so that she doesn’t become an BoringInvincibleVillian the first is that she was only a Lantern for a short time, and her only training came from her own experiments with the ring and Trespasser's "advice." He did not want her to become a Hal Jordan or Sinestro. The ideal, his ideal, Foundation's Ideal, is an obedient lantern, with willpower but without independence. If this means limiting the GL, then Foundation can hardly care: it places no injunction against the use of lethal force in the Corpse, only the accomplishing of the mission at hand.
*** Trespasser also dredged up Ukyou's own sense of duty and of "protecting her customers" as her prime martial virtue, and twisted it: she was told she could not trust herself, only trust Trespasser. So her willpower was compromised,
** Ukyou was given a number of these so that she doesn’t become an BoringInvincibleVillian the first is that she was only a Lantern for a short time, and her only training came from her own experiments with the ring and Trespasser's "advice." He did not want her to become a Hal Jordan or Sinestro. The ideal, his ideal, Foundation's Ideal, is an obedient lantern, with willpower but without independence. If this means limiting the GL, then Foundation can hardly care: it places no injunction against the use of lethal force in the Corpse, only the accomplishing of the mission at hand.
*** Trespasser also dredged up Ukyou's own sense of duty and of "protecting her customers" as her prime martial virtue, and twisted it: she was told she could not trust herself, only trust Trespasser. So her willpower was compromised,
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** Jinx seems to be a walking catalyst for TheWorfEffect and TookALevelInDumbass to the point where she might as well be renamed the Gambler Queen, as many of the plot points in the story couldn’t couldn't happen without these tropes. For example both Ranma and Starfire weren’t weren't the most mentally and physically sound when they fought her.
** Ukyou was given a number of these so that shedoesn’t doesn't become an BoringInvincibleVillian the first is that she was only a Lantern for a short time, and her only training came from her own experiments with the ring and Trespasser's "advice." He did not want her to become a Hal Jordan or Sinestro. The ideal, his ideal, Foundation's Ideal, is an obedient lantern, with willpower but without independence. If this means limiting the GL, then Foundation can hardly care: it places no injunction against the use of lethal force in the Corpse, only the accomplishing of the mission at hand.
hand.
*** Trespasser also dredged up Ukyou's own sense of duty and of "protecting her customers" as her prime martial virtue, and twisted it: she was told she could not trust herself, only trust Trespasser. So her willpower wascompromised, compromised,
** Ukyou was given a number of these so that she
*** Trespasser also dredged up Ukyou's own sense of duty and of "protecting her customers" as her prime martial virtue, and twisted it: she was told she could not trust herself, only trust Trespasser. So her willpower was
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* DreamLand: Jinx frequently has hers visited by [[spoiler: Akari]]. [[spoiler: Akari]] has also appeared in X-COM Ryouga's DreamLand, and once [[spoiler: Akari]] brought Jinx into her DreamLand.
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* DreamLand: Jinx frequently has hers visited by [[spoiler: Akari]]. [[spoiler: Akari]] has also appeared in X-COM Ryouga's Ryoga's DreamLand, and once [[spoiler: Akari]] brought Jinx into her DreamLand.
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* DyingAsYourself: During X-Ryoga heartfelt reunion with Akari knowing that she couldn’t survive without the Mind and being held in captivity isn’t much better as her final wish she made him promise that this happens.
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* DyingAsYourself: During X-Ryoga heartfelt reunion with Akari knowing that she couldn’t couldn't survive without the Mind and being held in captivity isn’t isn't much better as her final wish she made him promise that this happens. happens.
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* ElementalPowers: Titans Ryouga uses Earth Ki and Ranma uses Wind Ki
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* ElementalPowers: Titans Ryouga Ryoga uses Earth Ki and Ranma uses Wind Ki
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** Both Ryouga's Shishi Hokodans are powered primarily by depression, but can also draw on anger and hate.
*** After [[spoiler: Jinx is [[{{Deprogramming}} deprogrammed]] into no longer being in love with Ryouga]], Titans-Ryouga has issues controlling his powers.
*** After [[spoiler: Jinx is [[{{Deprogramming}} deprogrammed]] into no longer being in love with Ryouga]], Titans-Ryouga has issues controlling his powers.
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** Both Ryouga's Ryoga's Shishi Hokodans are powered primarily by depression, but can also draw on anger and hate.
*** After [[spoiler: Jinx is [[{{Deprogramming}} deprogrammed]] into no longer being in love withRyouga]], Titans-Ryouga Ryoga]], Titans-Ryoga has issues controlling his powers.
*** After [[spoiler: Jinx is [[{{Deprogramming}} deprogrammed]] into no longer being in love with
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* EnergyBall: The Shishi Hokodan, Mouko Takabisha, Starbolts, Titans Ryouga's [[ElementalPowers unnamed earth element ki attack]], and Jinx's [[{{Fireballs}} pink fireball]] all count.
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* EnergyBall: The Shishi Hokodan, Mouko Takabisha, Starbolts, Titans Ryouga's Ryoga's [[ElementalPowers unnamed earth element ki attack]], and Jinx's [[{{Fireballs}} pink fireball]] all count.
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* EvilTwin: What both Ryougas assume the other to be. Titans Ryouga genuinely is nicer though, and is as disturbed about the SociopathicSoldier aspects as most people would be in seeing a killing-machine version of themselves, but is initially too idealistic to be efficient in the X-COM world, so he has to adapt. His counterpart is more mature however, but mistakenly thinks that his "brother" is simply jealous of him being stronger.
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* EvilTwin: What both Ryougas Ryogas assume the other to be. Titans Ryouga Ryoga genuinely is nicer though, and is as disturbed about the SociopathicSoldier aspects as most people would be in seeing a killing-machine version of themselves, but is initially too idealistic to be efficient in the X-COM world, so he has to adapt. His counterpart is more mature however, but mistakenly thinks that his "brother" is simply jealous of him being stronger.
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-->'''Saffron''': LITTLE ONE. LET ME SEE YOUR FIRE.
* FailedASpotCheck: It took Ukyo awhile to realize that all of the destroyed lantern’s found with the dead Green Lantern’s might be important.
* FailureIsTheOnlyOption: Mousse’s plan to use Jinx to impress Shampoo relies entirely on Shampoo being stupid and unskilled enough to not notice that the two aren’t really fighting each other seriously. Which considering that the Hulk Dimensioned shows that Shampoo has the most focused mind out of all the cast borders on suicidal.
** This idea makes Moussse winning Shampoo’s heart period this trope as despite his repeated declarations of love this plan shows that he has little respect for her. The fact that he’s so obvious about it makes it understandable why she hates him so much
* FailedASpotCheck: It took Ukyo awhile to realize that all of the destroyed lantern’s found with the dead Green Lantern’s might be important.
* FailureIsTheOnlyOption: Mousse’s plan to use Jinx to impress Shampoo relies entirely on Shampoo being stupid and unskilled enough to not notice that the two aren’t really fighting each other seriously. Which considering that the Hulk Dimensioned shows that Shampoo has the most focused mind out of all the cast borders on suicidal.
** This idea makes Moussse winning Shampoo’s heart period this trope as despite his repeated declarations of love this plan shows that he has little respect for her. The fact that he’s so obvious about it makes it understandable why she hates him so much
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* FailedASpotCheck: It took Ukyo awhile to realize that all of the destroyed
* FailureIsTheOnlyOption:
** This idea makes Moussse winning
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* FlashStep: X-COM Ryouga can use a combination of the Shishi Houkodan and Bakusai Tenketsu technique to launch himself like a rocket.
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* FlashStep: X-COM Ryouga Ryoga can use a combination of the Shishi Houkodan and Bakusai Tenketsu technique to launch himself like a rocket.
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*** The only way Jinx can get away with openly insulting Shampoo is because Ranma isn’t observant enough to notice it. Despite the fact that every single one of Ranma’s BatmanGambit (s) including the ones in this story require him being the only one capable of SpottingTheThread.
*** Taking it a step further the Gambler King arc is derectly referenced in story
*** Taking it a step further the Gambler King arc is derectly referenced in story
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*** The only way Jinx can get away with openly insulting Shampoo is because Ranma isn’t isn't observant enough to notice it. Despite the fact that every single one of Ranma’s Ranma's BatmanGambit (s) including the ones in this story require him being the only one capable of SpottingTheThread.
*** Taking it a step further the Gambler King arc is derectly referenced instory story
*** Taking it a step further the Gambler King arc is derectly referenced in
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* ForTheEvulz: Raven claim’s that this is the reason that Titan Nabiki became a villain.
--> '''Raven''': It is people, people like your doppelganger, who intend to do harm with their actions that cause people to fear the most.
--> '''Raven''': It is people, people like your doppelganger, who intend to do harm with their actions that cause people to fear the most.
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* ForTheEvulz: Raven claim’s claim's that this is the reason that Titan Nabiki became a villain.
--> '''Raven''': -->'''Raven:''' It is people, people like your doppelganger, who intend to do harm with their actions that cause people to fear the most.
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* GameFace: Raven does this early on when she lets her anger take control during the fight with her and Ryouga against X-COM.
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* GameFace: Raven does this early on when she lets her anger take control during the fight with her and Ryouga Ryoga against X-COM.
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** Senior Sacristan Belucius Ro’s jealousy over Kreiger caused him to sabotage the Oracle and sell his soul to Ixthultu
* GreenLanternRing: Ukyo’s Corpse Lantern ring is a little example
* GreenLanternRing: Ukyo’s Corpse Lantern ring is a little example
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** Senior Sacristan Belucius Ro’s Ro's jealousy over Kreiger caused him to sabotage the Oracle and sell his soul to Ixthultu
* GreenLanternRing:Ukyo’s Ukyo's Corpse Lantern ring is a little example
* GreenLanternRing:
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: While the Titan’s like to think of themselves as morally superior to the heroes in the X-Comverse they narrative is more this trope.
** Really its more of a case of BlueAndOrangeMorality as the virtues of their respective universes are completely different.
** Really its more of a case of BlueAndOrangeMorality as the virtues of their respective universes are completely different.
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: While the Titan’s Titan's like to think of themselves as morally superior to the heroes in the X-Comverse they narrative is more this trope.
trope.
** Really its more of a case of BlueAndOrangeMorality as the virtues of their respective universes are completely different.
** Really its more of a case of BlueAndOrangeMorality as the virtues of their respective universes are completely different.
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* TheGunslinger: Revy or Lagoon-Two’s skill impressed even Shampoo.
** She was even able to feel Shampoo’s fighting intent as she was watching her.
** She was even able to feel Shampoo’s fighting intent as she was watching her.
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* TheGunslinger: Revy or Lagoon-Two’s Lagoon-Two's skill impressed even Shampoo.
** She was even able to feelShampoo’s Shampoo's fighting intent as she was watching her.
** She was even able to feel
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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: X-COM uses tactics that would be considered war crimes against any nation on earth. Fortunately for them, [[InhumanableAlienRights aliens have no rights]]. X-COM Ryouga uses [[TouchOfDeath killing techniques]] and possesses an [[DarkIsEvil evil ki]]. However, he makes a compelling argument to Titans Ryouga about that Titans Ryouga will also always easily turn moody, angry, and depressed, as that is how they are fundamentally built, and that it is better to learn to handle that than only pretend that they don't exist.
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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: X-COM uses tactics that would be considered war crimes against any nation on earth. Fortunately for them, [[InhumanableAlienRights aliens have no rights]]. X-COM Ryouga Ryoga uses [[TouchOfDeath killing techniques]] and possesses an [[DarkIsEvil evil ki]]. However, he makes a compelling argument to Titans Ryouga Ryoga about that Titans Ryouga Ryoga will also always easily turn moody, angry, and depressed, as that is how they are fundamentally built, and that it is better to learn to handle that than only pretend that they don't exist.
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** While technically not a HeelFaceTurn, Shampoo and Titans Ryouga, who originally antagonized each other whenever possible, ended up becoming close friends after [[spoiler: receiving the memories of a Shampoo and Ryouga from another dimension who were a couple while inside Heresiarch]]. Although they were arguably drifting toward a [[FireForgedFriends Fire Forged Friendship]] before that.
* HeelFaceMole: Cyborg mentioned that in the Superhero world this is essentially AwesomeButImpractical. Heroes who faked a face turn almost always ended up with some masquerade shattering moral choice or some other complication that screwed over the initial plan.
** Some various obvious hints have been dropped that Akari might be this.
* HeelRealization: While technically not a heel,[[DarkerAndEdgier X-COM Ryouga]] feels rather uncomfortable when compared to the much less morally questionable [[LighterAndSofter Titans Ryouga]]. Especially once he finds out that Titans Ryouga has had nearly as rough of a life as him.
** Dealing with his younger counterpart also made him wonder how Ranma was able to deal with him and his other rival. Noting that he didn’t have Ranma’s patience when it came to that kind of thing. He had little time or interest in going out of his way to help those who would just as well stab him in the back.
** Cyborg was the only one of the Titans to realize that he didn’t have the right to expect HeroInsurance when he came to the X-Comverse and his actions after the cops discovered him hacking into the satellite network was inexcusable leading to his surrender.
** Throughout the story Jinx has been a complete {{Jerkass}} constantly insulting everyone who speaks to her be they friend or foe. Until she found out Raven was dead.
* HeelFaceMole: Cyborg mentioned that in the Superhero world this is essentially AwesomeButImpractical. Heroes who faked a face turn almost always ended up with some masquerade shattering moral choice or some other complication that screwed over the initial plan.
** Some various obvious hints have been dropped that Akari might be this.
* HeelRealization: While technically not a heel,[[DarkerAndEdgier X-COM Ryouga]] feels rather uncomfortable when compared to the much less morally questionable [[LighterAndSofter Titans Ryouga]]. Especially once he finds out that Titans Ryouga has had nearly as rough of a life as him.
** Dealing with his younger counterpart also made him wonder how Ranma was able to deal with him and his other rival. Noting that he didn’t have Ranma’s patience when it came to that kind of thing. He had little time or interest in going out of his way to help those who would just as well stab him in the back.
** Cyborg was the only one of the Titans to realize that he didn’t have the right to expect HeroInsurance when he came to the X-Comverse and his actions after the cops discovered him hacking into the satellite network was inexcusable leading to his surrender.
** Throughout the story Jinx has been a complete {{Jerkass}} constantly insulting everyone who speaks to her be they friend or foe. Until she found out Raven was dead.
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** While technically not a HeelFaceTurn, Shampoo and Titans Ryouga, Ryoga, who originally antagonized each other whenever possible, ended up becoming close friends after [[spoiler: receiving the memories of a Shampoo and Ryouga Ryoga from another dimension who were a couple while inside Heresiarch]]. Although they were arguably drifting toward a [[FireForgedFriends Fire Forged Friendship]] before that.
* HeelFaceMole: Cyborg mentioned that in the Superhero world this is essentially AwesomeButImpractical. Heroes who faked a face turn almost always ended up with some masquerade shattering moral choice or some other complication that screwed over the initialplan.
plan.
** Some various obvious hints have been dropped that Akari might bethis.
this.
* HeelRealization: While technically not a heel,[[DarkerAndEdgier X-COMRyouga]] Ryoga]] feels rather uncomfortable when compared to the much less morally questionable [[LighterAndSofter Titans Ryouga]]. Ryoga]]. Especially once he finds out that Titans Ryouga Ryoga has had nearly as rough of a life as him.
** Dealing with his younger counterpart also made him wonder how Ranma was able to deal with him and his other rival. Noting that hedidn’t didn't have Ranma’s Ranma's patience when it came to that kind of thing. He had little time or interest in going out of his way to help those who would just as well stab him in the back.
** Cyborg was the only one of theTitans Titan's to realize that he didn’t didn't have the right to expect HeroInsurance when he came to the X-Comverse and his actions after the cops discovered him hacking into the satellite network was inexcusable leading to his surrender.
surrender.
** Throughout the story Jinx has been a complete {{Jerkass}} constantly insulting everyone who speaks to her be they friend or foe. Until she found out Raven was dead.
* HeelFaceMole: Cyborg mentioned that in the Superhero world this is essentially AwesomeButImpractical. Heroes who faked a face turn almost always ended up with some masquerade shattering moral choice or some other complication that screwed over the initial
** Some various obvious hints have been dropped that Akari might be
* HeelRealization: While technically not a heel,[[DarkerAndEdgier X-COM
** Dealing with his younger counterpart also made him wonder how Ranma was able to deal with him and his other rival. Noting that he
** Cyborg was the only one of the
** Throughout the story Jinx has been a complete {{Jerkass}} constantly insulting everyone who speaks to her be they friend or foe. Until she found out Raven was dead.
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* HeroInsurance: This doesn’t exist in the X-com universe as the Titan’s quickly found out. Their unwillingness to except this fact causes a lot of problem throughout the fic.
* HeroicBSOD: Titans Ryouga, after [[spoiler: Raven puts Jinx in a coma]].
* HeroicBSOD: Titans Ryouga, after [[spoiler: Raven puts Jinx in a coma]].
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* HeroInsurance: This doesn’t doesn't exist in the X-com universe as the Titan’s Titan's quickly found out. Their unwillingness to except this fact causes a lot of problem throughout the fic.
* HeroicBSOD: TitansRyouga, Ryoga, after [[spoiler: Raven puts Jinx in a coma]].
* HeroicBSOD: Titans
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* HeroicSafeMode: Titans Ryouga, after Jinx wakes up and it is revealed that [[spoiler: Raven also undid the Headmaster's influence, removing Jinx's love for him in the process]].
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* HeroicSafeMode: Titans Ryouga, Ryoga, after Jinx wakes up and it is revealed that [[spoiler: Raven also undid the Headmaster's influence, removing Jinx's love for him in the process]].
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* HiddenDepths: Pretty much every main character, especially to readers who read either ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' or ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'', but not the other.
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* HiddenDepths: Pretty much every main character, especially to readers who read either ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' ''Fanfic/DarkTitans'' or ''FanFic/TheRoadToCydonia'', ''Fanfic/TheRoadToCydonia'', but not the other.
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** Then there are the Titans themselves they repeatedly see the X-COM characters as heartless due to the dark nature of the universe especially after Starfire’s mind rape. Yet they see nothing wrong with allowing to Ryoga and Jinx to stay mentally compelled to love each other. They also show increasing apathy for the suffering of that universe.
** HumansAreTheRealMonsters to Starfire due to her experiences in the X-COM universe however she sees nothing wrong with X-COM’s tactics as the Tamaraneans have used them against all of their invaders she just doesn’t like the fact that she personally was on the receiving end of it.
** HumansAreTheRealMonsters to Starfire due to her experiences in the X-COM universe however she sees nothing wrong with X-COM’s tactics as the Tamaraneans have used them against all of their invaders she just doesn’t like the fact that she personally was on the receiving end of it.
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** Then there are the Titans themselves they repeatedly see the X-COM characters as heartless due to the dark nature of the universe especially after Starfire’s Starfire's mind rape. Yet they see nothing wrong with allowing to Ryoga and Jinx to stay mentally compelled to love each other. They also show increasing apathy for the suffering of that universe.
universe.
** HumansAreTheRealMonsters to Starfire due to her experiences in the X-COM universe however she sees nothing wrong withX-COM’s X-COM's tactics as the Tamaraneans have used them against all of their invaders she just doesn’t doesn't like the fact that she personally was on the receiving end of it. it.
** HumansAreTheRealMonsters to Starfire due to her experiences in the X-COM universe however she sees nothing wrong with
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** It’s easy to forget, but Konatsu is well above human when it came to raw strength,
** During her fight with Ryoga after he had crushed all of rings Ukyo used her own energy to form a Brilliant Sunrise combining it the two remaining rings she hadn’t yet used allowing her hold it in her hands instead of using her spatula.
** During her fight with Ryoga after he had crushed all of rings Ukyo used her own energy to form a Brilliant Sunrise combining it the two remaining rings she hadn’t yet used allowing her hold it in her hands instead of using her spatula.
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** It’s It's easy to forget, but Konatsu is well above human when it came to raw strength,
strength,
** During her fight with Ryoga after he had crushed all of rings Ukyo used her own energy to form a Brilliant Sunrise combining it the two remaining rings shehadn’t hadn't yet used allowing her hold it in her hands instead of using her spatula. spatula.
** During her fight with Ryoga after he had crushed all of rings Ukyo used her own energy to form a Brilliant Sunrise combining it the two remaining rings she
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** It’s mainly the fact that unlike in The Road to Cydonia which was closer to the manga characterization. The Ranma here comes across as generically fanon, like something you would see in a bash fic. This coupled with the numerous American pop culture reference he keep making, most of which he shouldn’t know given that he’s only been in X-com for about a year and a half and was never once depicted as watching a lot of TV([[OutOfCharacter making it seem like he’s done little more then watch tv) makes him come across as an idiot with numerous SmartBall moments.
* IgnoredExpert: Ranma’s advice to Mouuse is winning Shampoo’s favor was to stop coming on so strong as it was ultimately her decision weather or not she loves you. Mouuse decided to ignore that advice in favor of Jinx’s plan to trick her into thinking he beat her up which is almost assuredly doomed to fail.
** While Shampoo doesn’t have any ki projection technique she has displayed extensive skill in ki manipulation yet because she can’t fire a Shi Shi Hokodan T-Ryoga ignored her advice when she tried to help him with his earth ki techniques.
* IgnoredExpert: Ranma’s advice to Mouuse is winning Shampoo’s favor was to stop coming on so strong as it was ultimately her decision weather or not she loves you. Mouuse decided to ignore that advice in favor of Jinx’s plan to trick her into thinking he beat her up which is almost assuredly doomed to fail.
** While Shampoo doesn’t have any ki projection technique she has displayed extensive skill in ki manipulation yet because she can’t fire a Shi Shi Hokodan T-Ryoga ignored her advice when she tried to help him with his earth ki techniques.
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** It’s It's mainly the fact that unlike in The Road to Cydonia which was closer to the manga characterization. The Ranma here comes across as generically fanon, like something you would see in a bash fic. This coupled with the numerous American pop culture reference he keep making, most of which he shouldn’t shouldn't know given that he’s he's only been in X-com for about a year and a half and was never once depicted as watching a lot of TV([[OutOfCharacter making it seem like he’s he's done little more then watch tv) makes him come across as an idiot with numerous SmartBall moments.
* IgnoredExpert:Ranma’s Ranma's advice to Mouuse is winning Shampoo’s Shampoo's favor was to stop coming on so strong as it was ultimately her decision weather or not she loves you. Mouuse decided to ignore that advice in favor of Jinx’s Jinx's plan to trick her into thinking he beat her up which is almost assuredly doomed to fail.
fail.
** While Shampoodoesn’t doesn't have any ki projection technique she has displayed extensive skill in ki manipulation yet because she can’t can't fire a Shi Shi Hokodan T-Ryoga ignored her advice when she tried to help him with his earth ki techniques.
* IgnoredExpert:
** While Shampoo
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* ImprobableWeaponUser: Both Ryougas use umbrellas and cloth as weapons.
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* ImprobableWeaponUser: Both Ryougas Ryogas use umbrellas and cloth as weapons.
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* InferioritySuperiorityComplex: Titans Ryouga keeps picking fights with X-COM Ryouga and shows off his moral superiority every chance he can get. The reason: [[spoiler: he hates himself, and sees X-COM Ryouga as everything he thinks is wrong about himself in a conveniantly seperate package.]]
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* InferioritySuperiorityComplex: Titans Ryouga Ryoga keeps picking fights with X-COM Ryouga Ryoga and shows off his moral superiority every chance he can get. The reason: [[spoiler: he hates himself, and sees X-COM Ryouga Ryoga as everything he thinks is wrong about himself in a conveniantly seperate package.]]
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* IneffectualSympatheticVillain: Reava is this in universe even though she was one of Darkseid’s Female Furies the heroes really felt bad about lying and abusing her just to get what they wanted. All except Jinx who took great pleasure in the abuse.
** out of universe as well as Reava was locked in a room in the Hulk Dimension for centuries and was little to no threat to heroes
** out of universe as well as Reava was locked in a room in the Hulk Dimension for centuries and was little to no threat to heroes
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* IneffectualSympatheticVillain: Reava is this in universe even though she was one of Darkseid’s Darkseid's Female Furies the heroes really felt bad about lying and abusing her just to get what they wanted. All except Jinx who took great pleasure in the abuse.
** out of universe as well as Reava was locked in a room in the Hulk Dimension for centuries and was little to no threat toheroes heroes
** out of universe as well as Reava was locked in a room in the Hulk Dimension for centuries and was little to no threat to
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** Taken even further with Ranma and Nabiki who knew nothing about who the Guardian’s are so all of his knowledge was suspicious to them.
* InnocentlyInsensitive: Kuno does this a lot such as repeatedly referring to the Chief Tech with two doctorates as good smith.
** Kuno’s efforts to console Starfire after she was told she was AwesomeButImpractical only seemed to make her feel worse
** Starfire telling one of the X-COM Doctor’s that his latest invention was considered a toy on her world.
--> '''Starfire''': I - I am sorry. I did not mean to bring attention to the fact that Earthly sciences are archaic by galactic standards.
--> '''Cyborg''': Star! Seriously. Archaic? That - that just hurts!
* InsaneTrollLogic: The Titan’s seem to thrive on this while in the X-Comverse especially Ryoga as literally every argument he gives in the story utilizes this trope. For example comparing Raven being DrunkOnTheDarkSide with X-ryoga fulfilling Akari’s final request. He also see’s Ukyo being brainwashed by Tresspasser the same as Cyborg actively choicing to work for him.
* InnocentlyInsensitive: Kuno does this a lot such as repeatedly referring to the Chief Tech with two doctorates as good smith.
** Kuno’s efforts to console Starfire after she was told she was AwesomeButImpractical only seemed to make her feel worse
** Starfire telling one of the X-COM Doctor’s that his latest invention was considered a toy on her world.
--> '''Starfire''': I - I am sorry. I did not mean to bring attention to the fact that Earthly sciences are archaic by galactic standards.
--> '''Cyborg''': Star! Seriously. Archaic? That - that just hurts!
* InsaneTrollLogic: The Titan’s seem to thrive on this while in the X-Comverse especially Ryoga as literally every argument he gives in the story utilizes this trope. For example comparing Raven being DrunkOnTheDarkSide with X-ryoga fulfilling Akari’s final request. He also see’s Ukyo being brainwashed by Tresspasser the same as Cyborg actively choicing to work for him.
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** Taken even further with Ranma and Nabiki who knew nothing about who the Guardian’s Guardian's are so all of his knowledge was suspicious to them.
*InnocentlyInsensitive: InnocentlyInsensitive:
** Kuno does this a lot such as repeatedly referring to the Chief Tech with two doctorates as good smith.
**Kuno’s Kuno's efforts to console Starfire after she was told she was AwesomeButImpractical only seemed to make her feel worse
** Starfire telling one of the X-COMDoctor’s Doctor's that his latest invention was considered a toy on her world.
--> '''Starfire''': I - --->'''Starfire''' I-- I am sorry. I did not mean to bring attention to the fact that Earthly sciences are archaic by galactic standards.
--> '''Cyborg''':standards.\\
'''Cyborg:''' Star! Seriously. Archaic?That - That-- that just hurts!
*InsaneTrollLogic: InsaneTrollLogic:
** TheTitan’s Titan's seem to thrive on this while in the X-Comverse especially Ryoga as literally every argument he gives in the story utilizes this trope. For example comparing Raven being DrunkOnTheDarkSide with X-ryoga fulfilling Akari’s Akari's final request. He also see’s see's Ukyo being brainwashed by Tresspasser the same as Cyborg actively choicing to work for him. him.
*
** Kuno does this a lot such as repeatedly referring to the Chief Tech with two doctorates as good smith.
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** Starfire telling one of the X-COM
--> '''Cyborg''':
'''Cyborg:''' Star! Seriously. Archaic?
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** The
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* Starfire being sad that Ryoga hasn’t been able to use the Lion's Roar Bullet for a long time.
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* Starfire being sad that Ryoga hasn’t hasn't been able to use the Lion's Roar Bullet for a long time. time.
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** Ukyo, who’d only been playing with a handful of busted ass, ancient relic Green Lantern rings for at most two weeks, didn’t mastered them even beyond the abilities of trained and experienced Green Lanterns.
** Neither of the girls had their powers for very long and their skill level’s showed it.
** Neither of the girls had their powers for very long and their skill level’s showed it.
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** Ukyo, who’d who'd only been playing with a handful of busted ass, ancient relic Green Lantern rings for at most two weeks, didn’t didn't mastered them even beyond the abilities of trained and experienced Green Lanterns.
** Neither of the girls had their powers for very long and their skilllevel’s level's showed it.
** Neither of the girls had their powers for very long and their skill
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* {{Irony}}: Do to the not so different nature between jinx situation with the titans and ranma’s situation with ryoga Raven effectively went to ranma to get advice on how to deal with ranma
** When Ryoga yelled at Raven that he had a life outside of martial arts, she replied that T-Kasumi was more likely to have a secret life.
** The Titan’s treated Ryoga’s manipulation back in TTLB for what it was and did everything theey could to free him. Yet in Reflections they treat Jinx’s manipulation as true love.
*** In fact everyone who is BrainwashedAndCrazy is treated like they betrayed their friends.
** In the show and a lot of fanfics Raven is depicted as antisocial, outright hostile to new people and generally just not a particularly nice person. Although her reserve keeps it from showing too much. Yet in Reflections the half-demon loner is the ‘nice’ one.
** the author’s in an effort to not make the X-Com characters overly powerful have [[TheWorfEffect worfed]] and [[TookALevelInDumbass dumbed them down]] to a ridicules and obvious degree. For example they didn’t want Saffron defeated by a HSH variant was that they felt it was overdone. Yet the only reason this was noticed was that they foreshadowed it. Both Herb and X-Ryoga mentioned that Ranma intentionally goaded them into creating counters so that giving him idea for new variants. Yet he was utterly dumbfounded when Saffron countered his and Starfire’s two man version.
** WordOfGod also states Starfire’s Nova attack was met to show that the Yankee squad weren’t infallible as she could of just left Saffron in space to die.
** Despite Lathis’ dislike of GodModeSue Ranmafics he introduced a number of sue like traits to Jinx
** Yankee squad see X-COM as heartless and amoral not only do they get increasingly hypocritical and apathetic they constantly antagonize them (especially Jinx and Ryoga). X-COM on the other hand are shown to be far more understanding. While it’s obvious they do not like the Titan’s they are willing to put with far more of the Titan’s actions then the Titan’s are of theres.
** When Ryoga yelled at Raven that he had a life outside of martial arts, she replied that T-Kasumi was more likely to have a secret life.
** The Titan’s treated Ryoga’s manipulation back in TTLB for what it was and did everything theey could to free him. Yet in Reflections they treat Jinx’s manipulation as true love.
*** In fact everyone who is BrainwashedAndCrazy is treated like they betrayed their friends.
** In the show and a lot of fanfics Raven is depicted as antisocial, outright hostile to new people and generally just not a particularly nice person. Although her reserve keeps it from showing too much. Yet in Reflections the half-demon loner is the ‘nice’ one.
** the author’s in an effort to not make the X-Com characters overly powerful have [[TheWorfEffect worfed]] and [[TookALevelInDumbass dumbed them down]] to a ridicules and obvious degree. For example they didn’t want Saffron defeated by a HSH variant was that they felt it was overdone. Yet the only reason this was noticed was that they foreshadowed it. Both Herb and X-Ryoga mentioned that Ranma intentionally goaded them into creating counters so that giving him idea for new variants. Yet he was utterly dumbfounded when Saffron countered his and Starfire’s two man version.
** WordOfGod also states Starfire’s Nova attack was met to show that the Yankee squad weren’t infallible as she could of just left Saffron in space to die.
** Despite Lathis’ dislike of GodModeSue Ranmafics he introduced a number of sue like traits to Jinx
** Yankee squad see X-COM as heartless and amoral not only do they get increasingly hypocritical and apathetic they constantly antagonize them (especially Jinx and Ryoga). X-COM on the other hand are shown to be far more understanding. While it’s obvious they do not like the Titan’s they are willing to put with far more of the Titan’s actions then the Titan’s are of theres.
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* {{Irony}}: Do to the not so different nature between jinx situation with the titans and ranma’s ranma's situation with ryoga Raven effectively went to ranma to get advice on how to deal with ranma
** When Ryoga yelled at Raven that he had a life outside of martial arts, she replied that T-Kasumi was more likely to have a secretlife.
life.
** TheTitan’s Titan's treated Ryoga’s Ryoga's manipulation back in TTLB for what it was and did everything theey could to free him. Yet in Reflections they treat Jinx’s Jinx's manipulation as true love.
*** In fact everyone who is BrainwashedAndCrazy is treated like they betrayed theirfriends.
friends.
** In the show and a lot of fanfics Raven is depicted as antisocial, outright hostile to new people and generally just not a particularly nice person. Although her reserve keeps it from showing too much. Yet in Reflections the half-demon loner is the‘nice’ ‘nice' one.
** theauthor’s author's in an effort to not make the X-Com characters overly powerful have [[TheWorfEffect worfed]] and [[TookALevelInDumbass dumbed them down]] to a ridicules and obvious degree. For example they didn’t didn't want Saffron defeated by a HSH variant was that they felt it was overdone. Yet the only reason this was noticed was that they foreshadowed it. Both Herb and X-Ryoga mentioned that Ranma intentionally goaded them into creating counters so that giving him idea for new variants. Yet he was utterly dumbfounded when Saffron countered his and Starfire’s Starfire's two man version.
version.
** WordOfGod also statesStarfire’s Starfire's Nova attack was met to show that the Yankee squad weren’t weren't infallible as she could of just left Saffron in space to die.
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** Yankee squad see X-COM as heartless and amoral not only do they get increasingly hypocritical and apathetic they constantly antagonize them (especially Jinx and Ryoga). X-COM on the other hand are shown to be far more understanding. Whileit’s it's obvious they do not like the Titan’s Titan's they are willing to put with far more of the Titan’s Titan's actions then the Titan’s Titan's are of theres. theres.
** When Ryoga yelled at Raven that he had a life outside of martial arts, she replied that T-Kasumi was more likely to have a secret
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*** In fact everyone who is BrainwashedAndCrazy is treated like they betrayed their
** In the show and a lot of fanfics Raven is depicted as antisocial, outright hostile to new people and generally just not a particularly nice person. Although her reserve keeps it from showing too much. Yet in Reflections the half-demon loner is the
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** Yankee squad see X-COM as heartless and amoral not only do they get increasingly hypocritical and apathetic they constantly antagonize them (especially Jinx and Ryoga). X-COM on the other hand are shown to be far more understanding. While
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Jinx is primarily concerned about herself
** She admitted to X-Ryoga that back in Atlantis she intentionally put hers Terra’s and Ryoga’s lives in danger by synchronizing with their energy despite no prior training because she was jealous
*** when told about Akari’s final request Jinx replied that she didn’t care about what Akari wanted. And later after finding out that her efforts to save Akari only caused her end up in a fate worse then death she attacked Kasumi who if she told anyone would have most gotten all of Yankee squad throw in jail and maybe even executed.
*** When told by Mitsuko that T-Ryoga was depressed her first thought was that he was only with her to punish himself.
** its ironic that Raven felt that X-Com was this because he didn’t think it was right to allow two people to remain mentally compelled to love each other and felt that it would be better to get rid of the implanted feelings after Raven forcibly did so to Jinx.
** Raven’s or at least Terra-Raven’s TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to X-Ryoga was essentially telling him that all of his suffering didn’t matter the fear of constant death, the pain inflicted on him by Trencard Cologne, all that he has been through don’t matter because they didn’t benefit her. that unlike him her Ryoga understand her and thus truly knows what fear is.
** This seems to big problem with T-Ryoga yet he projects it on to his older counterpart.
* ItsAllMyFault: Raven blames herself for the Titan’s ending up in the X-COM universe as it was a combination of her powers and the Griffin’s that sent them there.
** X-Ryoga blames himself for what happened in Azarath and the Hulk Dimension
--> '''X-Ryoga''': I screwed the pooch on this mission, this one... and Azarath both. I screwed up. Made bad decisions. Got careless. People almost died. The only thing I have left is to put all I have into getting everyone home alive. That's the only thing that will salvage this disaster.
** She admitted to X-Ryoga that back in Atlantis she intentionally put hers Terra’s and Ryoga’s lives in danger by synchronizing with their energy despite no prior training because she was jealous
*** when told about Akari’s final request Jinx replied that she didn’t care about what Akari wanted. And later after finding out that her efforts to save Akari only caused her end up in a fate worse then death she attacked Kasumi who if she told anyone would have most gotten all of Yankee squad throw in jail and maybe even executed.
*** When told by Mitsuko that T-Ryoga was depressed her first thought was that he was only with her to punish himself.
** its ironic that Raven felt that X-Com was this because he didn’t think it was right to allow two people to remain mentally compelled to love each other and felt that it would be better to get rid of the implanted feelings after Raven forcibly did so to Jinx.
** Raven’s or at least Terra-Raven’s TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to X-Ryoga was essentially telling him that all of his suffering didn’t matter the fear of constant death, the pain inflicted on him by Trencard Cologne, all that he has been through don’t matter because they didn’t benefit her. that unlike him her Ryoga understand her and thus truly knows what fear is.
** This seems to big problem with T-Ryoga yet he projects it on to his older counterpart.
* ItsAllMyFault: Raven blames herself for the Titan’s ending up in the X-COM universe as it was a combination of her powers and the Griffin’s that sent them there.
** X-Ryoga blames himself for what happened in Azarath and the Hulk Dimension
--> '''X-Ryoga''': I screwed the pooch on this mission, this one... and Azarath both. I screwed up. Made bad decisions. Got careless. People almost died. The only thing I have left is to put all I have into getting everyone home alive. That's the only thing that will salvage this disaster.
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* IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: Though jealous before they found out that they were talking about two different Ryoga’s Akari felt this way about Jinx.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Jinx is primarily concerned about herself
** She admitted to X-Ryoga that back in Atlantis she intentionally put hers Terra's and Ryoga's lives in danger by synchronizing with their energy despite no prior training because she was jealous
*** when told about Akari's final request Jinx replied that she didn't care about what Akari wanted. And later after finding out that her efforts to save Akari only caused her end up in a fate worse then death she attacked Kasumi who if she told anyone would have most gotten all of Yankee squad throw in jail and maybe even executed.
*** When told by Mitsuko that T-Ryoga was depressed her first thought was that he was only with her to punish himself.
** its ironic that Raven felt that X-Com was this because he didn't think it was right to allow two people to remain mentally compelled to love each other and felt that it would be better to get rid of the implanted feelings after Raven forcibly did so to Jinx.
** Raven's or at least Terra-Raven's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to X-Ryoga was essentially telling him that all of his suffering didn't matter the fear of constant death, the pain inflicted on him by Trencard Cologne, all that he has been through don't matter because they didn't benefit her. that unlike him her Ryoga understand her and thus truly knows what fear is.
** This seems to big problem with T-Ryoga yet he projects it on to his older counterpart.
* ItsAllMyFault:
** Raven blames herself for the Titan's ending up in the X-COM universe as it was a combination of her powers and the Griffin's that sent them there.
** X-Ryoga blames himself for what happened in Azarath and the Hulk Dimension
--->'''X-Ryoga:''' I screwed the pooch on this mission, this one... and Azarath both. I screwed up. Made bad decisions. Got careless. People almost died. The only thing I have left is to put all I have into getting everyone home alive. That's the only thing that will salvage this disaster.
* IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: Though jealous before they found out that they were talking about two differentRyoga’s Ryoga's Akari felt this way about Jinx.
** She admitted to X-Ryoga that back in Atlantis she intentionally put hers Terra's and Ryoga's lives in danger by synchronizing with their energy despite no prior training because she was jealous
*** when told about Akari's final request Jinx replied that she didn't care about what Akari wanted. And later after finding out that her efforts to save Akari only caused her end up in a fate worse then death she attacked Kasumi who if she told anyone would have most gotten all of Yankee squad throw in jail and maybe even executed.
*** When told by Mitsuko that T-Ryoga was depressed her first thought was that he was only with her to punish himself.
** its ironic that Raven felt that X-Com was this because he didn't think it was right to allow two people to remain mentally compelled to love each other and felt that it would be better to get rid of the implanted feelings after Raven forcibly did so to Jinx.
** Raven's or at least Terra-Raven's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to X-Ryoga was essentially telling him that all of his suffering didn't matter the fear of constant death, the pain inflicted on him by Trencard Cologne, all that he has been through don't matter because they didn't benefit her. that unlike him her Ryoga understand her and thus truly knows what fear is.
** This seems to big problem with T-Ryoga yet he projects it on to his older counterpart.
* ItsAllMyFault:
** Raven blames herself for the Titan's ending up in the X-COM universe as it was a combination of her powers and the Griffin's that sent them there.
** X-Ryoga blames himself for what happened in Azarath and the Hulk Dimension
--->'''X-Ryoga:''' I screwed the pooch on this mission, this one... and Azarath both. I screwed up. Made bad decisions. Got careless. People almost died. The only thing I have left is to put all I have into getting everyone home alive. That's the only thing that will salvage this disaster.
* IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: Though jealous before they found out that they were talking about two different
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** PassiveAggressiveKombat has become T-Ryoga’s default mode of conversation to the point where he comes across as a hypocritical SpoiledBrat.
** Actually it comes across more bad fanon as he constantly blames Ranma for everything. For example when he thought that he had died after his defeat by Ukyo he was happy to die because then he wouldn’t have to see Ranma ever again.
** Even after his HeroicResolve recovery his first thought was that Ukyo reminded him of Ranma.
* KarmaHoudini: Neither T-Ryoga or jinx paid for needlessly antagonizing everyone even when that resentment pulled over to BrainwashedAndCrazy they still acted the same. What makes this truly hanus is that it effects soldier moral effecting their ability to work together
** Actually it comes across more bad fanon as he constantly blames Ranma for everything. For example when he thought that he had died after his defeat by Ukyo he was happy to die because then he wouldn’t have to see Ranma ever again.
** Even after his HeroicResolve recovery his first thought was that Ukyo reminded him of Ranma.
* KarmaHoudini: Neither T-Ryoga or jinx paid for needlessly antagonizing everyone even when that resentment pulled over to BrainwashedAndCrazy they still acted the same. What makes this truly hanus is that it effects soldier moral effecting their ability to work together
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** PassiveAggressiveKombat has become T-Ryoga’s T-Ryoga's default mode of conversation to the point where he comes across as a hypocritical SpoiledBrat.
** Actually it comes across more bad fanon as he constantly blames Ranma for everything. For example when he thought that he had died after his defeat by Ukyo he was happy to die because then hewouldn’t wouldn't have to see Ranma ever again.
** Even after his HeroicResolve recovery his first thought was that Ukyo reminded him ofRanma.
Ranma.
* KarmaHoudini: Neither T-Ryoga or jinx paid for needlessly antagonizing everyone even when that resentment pulled over to BrainwashedAndCrazy they still acted the same. What makes this truly hanus is that it effects soldier moral effecting their ability to worktogether together
** Actually it comes across more bad fanon as he constantly blames Ranma for everything. For example when he thought that he had died after his defeat by Ukyo he was happy to die because then he
** Even after his HeroicResolve recovery his first thought was that Ukyo reminded him of
* KarmaHoudini: Neither T-Ryoga or jinx paid for needlessly antagonizing everyone even when that resentment pulled over to BrainwashedAndCrazy they still acted the same. What makes this truly hanus is that it effects soldier moral effecting their ability to work
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** Jinx saved Akari’s life for [[ItsAllAboutMe me complete selfish reasons]] despite the later wishing to [[DyingAsYourself die human]]. Then after finding out that she caused Akari to suffer a FateWorseThanDeath she attacked Kasumi who had nothing to do with it putting no only her self but all the other titans lives in danger if Kasumi reported her.
** The Titan’s as a whole have caused numerous InferredHolocaust incidents by unknowingly providing weapons to the visitors.
** The Titan’s as a whole have caused numerous InferredHolocaust incidents by unknowingly providing weapons to the visitors.
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** Jinx saved Akari’s Akari's life for [[ItsAllAboutMe me complete selfish reasons]] despite the later wishing to [[DyingAsYourself die human]]. Then after finding out that she caused Akari to suffer a FateWorseThanDeath she attacked Kasumi who had nothing to do with it putting no only her self but all the other titans lives in danger if Kasumi reported her.
her.
** TheTitan’s Titan's as a whole have caused numerous InferredHolocaust incidents by unknowingly providing weapons to the visitors. visitors.
** The
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* KnowNothingKnowItAll: Raven’s evolution into a SmallNameBigEgo has caused her to show signs of this such as her TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to X-Ryoga which was a combination of hypocrisy and [[ItsAllAboutMe narcissism]]. Stating that none of his suffering and fear of death mattered because she didn’t benefit from like she did with T-Ryoga’s suffering.
** Basically she used her rudimentary knowledge of his past to call him a coward.
*** Played with in that despite its hypocrisy it did work.
** This is pretty much a given due to the Titans refusal to except that they are in a decidedly grey universe instead of the black and white universe they are familiar with. The biggest example is Akari. They were repeatedly warned that re-connecting her with the Alien Hive Mind was a bad idea. Even Akari herself stated that she did not want this to happen. Yet they just brushed it off and did it anyway seeing X-COM as heartless monsters for not doing it.
*** Cyborg went as far as to compare her situation to CyberneticsEatYourSoul stating he knows exactly what she’s going through.
--> '''Jinx''': I guess you're more like your Ryouga than I thought. I don't know about you, but in the time I spent with her, I actually got to like Akari. I'd at least like to give her a shot at living, rather than shoot her in the head before even trying. What's it even matter to you? If it works, great, if not, you just kill her, anyway. Shouldn't be too hard for you guys, considering you seem so willing to let her die even while she's still herself.
--> '''Ranma''': You think you do. I don't think you guys really get what this situation is. You think any of us would give up on a friend lightly? This ain't some miracle cure, an' maybe it works or maybe it won't. It'll be ugly. Mark my words.
** Played with while T-Ryoga’s assessment that he is far more familiar with his teams capabilities since he hasn’t even bothered to learn any military protocol as he himself admitted this making him better able to assign duties is false especially since this is the first time he’s acting as a leader.
** Basically she used her rudimentary knowledge of his past to call him a coward.
*** Played with in that despite its hypocrisy it did work.
** This is pretty much a given due to the Titans refusal to except that they are in a decidedly grey universe instead of the black and white universe they are familiar with. The biggest example is Akari. They were repeatedly warned that re-connecting her with the Alien Hive Mind was a bad idea. Even Akari herself stated that she did not want this to happen. Yet they just brushed it off and did it anyway seeing X-COM as heartless monsters for not doing it.
*** Cyborg went as far as to compare her situation to CyberneticsEatYourSoul stating he knows exactly what she’s going through.
--> '''Jinx''': I guess you're more like your Ryouga than I thought. I don't know about you, but in the time I spent with her, I actually got to like Akari. I'd at least like to give her a shot at living, rather than shoot her in the head before even trying. What's it even matter to you? If it works, great, if not, you just kill her, anyway. Shouldn't be too hard for you guys, considering you seem so willing to let her die even while she's still herself.
--> '''Ranma''': You think you do. I don't think you guys really get what this situation is. You think any of us would give up on a friend lightly? This ain't some miracle cure, an' maybe it works or maybe it won't. It'll be ugly. Mark my words.
** Played with while T-Ryoga’s assessment that he is far more familiar with his teams capabilities since he hasn’t even bothered to learn any military protocol as he himself admitted this making him better able to assign duties is false especially since this is the first time he’s acting as a leader.
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* KnowNothingKnowItAll: Raven’s KnowNothingKnowItAll:
** Raven's evolution into a SmallNameBigEgo has caused her to show signs of this such as her TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to X-Ryoga which was a combination of hypocrisy and [[ItsAllAboutMe narcissism]]. Stating that none of his suffering and fear of death mattered because shedidn’t didn't benefit from like she did with T-Ryoga’s suffering.
**T-Ryoga's suffering. Basically she used her rudimentary knowledge of his past to call him a coward.
***coward. Played with in that despite its hypocrisy it did work.
work.
** This is pretty much a given due to the Titans refusal to except that they are in a decidedly grey universe instead of the black and white universe they are familiar with. The biggest example is Akari. They were repeatedly warned that re-connecting her with the Alien Hive Mind was a bad idea. Even Akari herself stated that she did not want this to happen. Yet they just brushed it off and did it anyway seeing X-COM as heartless monsters for not doing it. \n*** Cyborg went as far as to compare her situation to CyberneticsEatYourSoul stating he knows exactly what she’s she's going through.
--> '''Jinx''':through.
--->'''Jinx:''' I guess you're more like yourRyouga Ryoga than I thought. I don't know about you, but in the time I spent with her, I actually got to like Akari. I'd at least like to give her a shot at living, rather than shoot her in the head before even trying. What's it even matter to you? If it works, great, if not, you just kill her, anyway. Shouldn't be too hard for you guys, considering you seem so willing to let her die even while she's still herself.
--> '''Ranma''':herself.\\
'''Ranma:''' You think you do. I don't think you guys really get what this situation is. You think any of us would give up on a friend lightly? This ain't some miracle cure, an' maybe it works or maybe it won't. It'll be ugly. Mark my words.
** Played with whileT-Ryoga’s T-Ryoga's assessment that he is far more familiar with his teams capabilities since he hasn’t hasn't even bothered to learn any military protocol as he himself admitted this making him better able to assign duties is false especially since this is the first time he’s he's acting as a leader.
** Raven's evolution into a SmallNameBigEgo has caused her to show signs of this such as her TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to X-Ryoga which was a combination of hypocrisy and [[ItsAllAboutMe narcissism]]. Stating that none of his suffering and fear of death mattered because she
**
***
** This is pretty much a given due to the Titans refusal to except that they are in a decidedly grey universe instead of the black and white universe they are familiar with. The biggest example is Akari. They were repeatedly warned that re-connecting her with the Alien Hive Mind was a bad idea. Even Akari herself stated that she did not want this to happen. Yet they just brushed it off and did it anyway seeing X-COM as heartless monsters for not doing it.
--> '''Jinx''':
--->'''Jinx:''' I guess you're more like your
--> '''Ranma''':
'''Ranma:''' You think you do. I don't think you guys really get what this situation is. You think any of us would give up on a friend lightly? This ain't some miracle cure, an' maybe it works or maybe it won't. It'll be ugly. Mark my words.
** Played with while
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--> '''Jinx''': Most of the aliens here, one on one, wouldn't even be able to catch Batman's attention, let alone the League itself. Except maybe those... Chryssalid crab things.
--> '''Starfire''': They do not even know what power is. The being, Saffron, which the aliens in this dimension created… they considered that to be immensely powerful, but compared to the works wrought by my own tormentors, the Psions, he was less than a single point of light in the night sky.
--> '''Starfire''': They do not even know what power is. The being, Saffron, which the aliens in this dimension created… they considered that to be immensely powerful, but compared to the works wrought by my own tormentors, the Psions, he was less than a single point of light in the night sky.
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--> '''Starfire''':
'''Starfire:''' They do not even know what power is. The being, Saffron, which the aliens in this dimension
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* LackOfEmpathy: The Titan’s as a whole have shown a surprising amount of callousness to the suffering of those in the X-COM Universe but the cake really has to go Ryoga and Raven with their ItsAllAboutMe attitude.
** Raven status as the X-COM Universe's strongest psychic has completely gone to her head turning her into a SmallNameBigEgo to the point that on Azarath she purposely withheld information as she believed X-COM felt she was too important to let leave. However what really cements this is her TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to X-Ryoga which was essentially telling him that his suffering didn’t matter because unlike with T-Ryoga she didn’t benefit from it.
** Ryoga is arguably worse not only does he intentionally antagonize everyone he meets sowing discord within the rank of X-COM he has an an extreme case of MoralMyopia condemning actions as MoralEventHorizon when done to him or the titans but sees nothing wrong when he does it. When informed the titans actions had led to akira suffering a FateWorseThanDeath he replied so what at least he felt morally in the right for having done it.
** Raven status as the X-COM Universe's strongest psychic has completely gone to her head turning her into a SmallNameBigEgo to the point that on Azarath she purposely withheld information as she believed X-COM felt she was too important to let leave. However what really cements this is her TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to X-Ryoga which was essentially telling him that his suffering didn’t matter because unlike with T-Ryoga she didn’t benefit from it.
** Ryoga is arguably worse not only does he intentionally antagonize everyone he meets sowing discord within the rank of X-COM he has an an extreme case of MoralMyopia condemning actions as MoralEventHorizon when done to him or the titans but sees nothing wrong when he does it. When informed the titans actions had led to akira suffering a FateWorseThanDeath he replied so what at least he felt morally in the right for having done it.
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* LackOfEmpathy: The Titan’s Titan's as a whole have shown a surprising amount of callousness to the suffering of those in the X-COM Universe but the cake really has to go Ryoga and Raven with their ItsAllAboutMe attitude.
** Raven status as the X-COM Universe's strongest psychic has completely gone to her head turning her into a SmallNameBigEgo to the point that on Azarath she purposely withheld information as she believed X-COM felt she was too important to let leave. However what really cements this is her TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to X-Ryoga which was essentially telling him that his sufferingdidn’t didn't matter because unlike with T-Ryoga she didn’t didn't benefit from it.
** Ryoga is arguably worse not only does he intentionally antagonize everyone he meets sowing discord within the rank of X-COM he has an an extreme case of MoralMyopia condemning actions as MoralEventHorizon when done to him or the titans but sees nothing wrong when he does it. When informed the titans actions had led to akira suffering a FateWorseThanDeath he replied so what at least he felt morally in the right for having done it.
** Raven status as the X-COM Universe's strongest psychic has completely gone to her head turning her into a SmallNameBigEgo to the point that on Azarath she purposely withheld information as she believed X-COM felt she was too important to let leave. However what really cements this is her TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to X-Ryoga which was essentially telling him that his suffering
** Ryoga is arguably worse not only does he intentionally antagonize everyone he meets sowing discord within the rank of X-COM he has an an extreme case of MoralMyopia condemning actions as MoralEventHorizon when done to him or the titans but sees nothing wrong when he does it. When informed the titans actions had led to akira suffering a FateWorseThanDeath he replied so what at least he felt morally in the right for having done it.
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--> '''Raven''': What is with you today? Here you have a ... well, maybe a thrice in a lifetime chance to meet your father, and all you can think to do is complain?
*** This is one of the things that makes x-ryoga OlderAndWiser because he both recognizes and acknowledges that this he has this flaw and aims to improve it
** The Titans are this to Raven as despite them knowing that Ryoga and Jinx are mentally coerced into loving each other they repeatedly chastise her for not fighting hard enough for him.
*** This is one of the things that makes x-ryoga OlderAndWiser because he both recognizes and acknowledges that this he has this flaw and aims to improve it
** The Titans are this to Raven as despite them knowing that Ryoga and Jinx are mentally coerced into loving each other they repeatedly chastise her for not fighting hard enough for him.
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*** This is one of the things that makes x-ryoga OlderAndWiser because he both recognizes and acknowledges that this he has this flaw and aims to improve
** The Titans are this to Raven as despite them knowing that Ryoga and Jinx are mentally coerced into loving each other they repeatedly chastise her for not fighting hard enough for him.
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* LaserGuidedKarma: Kasumi believed that Doctor Andrews’ lab accident was this
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* LaserGuidedKarma: Kasumi believed that Doctor Andrews’ Andrews' lab accident was this this
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* LookWhatICanDoNow: The X-COM Ryouga vs Titans Ryouga fight is full of this.
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* LookWhatICanDoNow: The X-COM Ryouga Ryoga vs Titans Ryouga Ryoga fight is full of this.
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* LossOfIdentity: Seems to be one of Titans-Ryouga's fears. He doesn't want anyone removing the fake memories Brother Blood implanted him with, since even if they're fake, they're part of what makes him him.
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* LossOfIdentity: Seems to be one of Titans-Ryouga's Titans-Ryoga's fears. He doesn't want anyone removing the fake memories Brother Blood implanted him with, since even if they're fake, they're part of what makes him him.
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* MadeOfIndestructium: The alien alloy is fairly close to indestructible, barring plasma attacks. Or Titans Ryouga.
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* MadeOfIndestructium: The alien alloy is fairly close to indestructible, barring plasma attacks. Or Titans Ryouga.Ryoga.
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* MirrorMatch: Titans Ryouga vs. X-COM Ryouga
* MisplacedRetribution: After finding out what happened to Akari Jink decided to attack Kasumi despite the fact that not only did she have nothing to due with the torture, she didn’t even know about it at the time.
* MisplacedRetribution: After finding out what happened to Akari Jink decided to attack Kasumi despite the fact that not only did she have nothing to due with the torture, she didn’t even know about it at the time.
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* MirrorMatch: Titans Ryouga Ryoga vs. X-COM Ryouga
Ryoga
* MisplacedRetribution: After finding out what happened to Akari Jink decided to attack Kasumi despite the fact that not only did she have nothing to due with the torture, shedidn’t didn't even know about it at the time.
* MisplacedRetribution: After finding out what happened to Akari Jink decided to attack Kasumi despite the fact that not only did she have nothing to due with the torture, she
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* MoralDissonance: The Titan’s see themselves as morally superior because they come from a black and white universe while TRTC is black and grey. However they are shown to be hypocritical apathetic and even amoral at times. They see nothing wrong with allowing Jinx and Ryoga to stay coerced into loving each other (Ryoga consciously stays that way), T-Ryoga and Jinx antagonize nearly everyone they talk to. Jinx is entirely self absorbed regularly ignoring other peoples wishes and safety (as well as her own) to get what she wants.
** Their reliance on HeroInsurance seems to be the major cause of this as there are far more consequences in X-COM then there are in the DCAU. When they first arrived the Titans caused a lot of property damage and even injuries yet were surprised and even angry when authorities tried to apprehend them
* MoralMyopia: T-Ryoga comes across as incredibly hypocritical throughout the story to the point where he could qualify for the new trope qualifier. One of the first conversation he has is calling out Raven for not excepting Jinx’s GoodIsNotNice mentality his argument was literally word for word is relationship with T-Ranma.
** When Raven went DrunkOnTheDarkSide Ryoga tried to talk her down saying how wrong it was to force someone to love her conveniently forgetting that he refuses to cure his and Jinx coercion to love each other.
*** Going further after Jinx’s coercion was cured he cried about the fact that she now had a choice not to love him. As well as telling Raven they could now persue a relationship after telling her he didn’t lover her.
** After X-Ryoga found out that he taught an experimental technique with unknown outcomes to Jinx and Starfire T-Ryoga used a combination of InsaneTrollLogic and out right lies to explain why he was justified. Yet when Jinx tried to use that technique of X-Shampoo he flat out used X-Ryoga’s reasoning for why it wasn’t a good idea.
** T-Ryoga fought the BrainwashedAndCrazy ukyo he didn’t hesitate to go in for the kill yet he raised holy hell when X-Ryoga tried to stop he StrawVulcan Cyborg.
** Their reliance on HeroInsurance seems to be the major cause of this as there are far more consequences in X-COM then there are in the DCAU. When they first arrived the Titans caused a lot of property damage and even injuries yet were surprised and even angry when authorities tried to apprehend them
* MoralMyopia: T-Ryoga comes across as incredibly hypocritical throughout the story to the point where he could qualify for the new trope qualifier. One of the first conversation he has is calling out Raven for not excepting Jinx’s GoodIsNotNice mentality his argument was literally word for word is relationship with T-Ranma.
** When Raven went DrunkOnTheDarkSide Ryoga tried to talk her down saying how wrong it was to force someone to love her conveniently forgetting that he refuses to cure his and Jinx coercion to love each other.
*** Going further after Jinx’s coercion was cured he cried about the fact that she now had a choice not to love him. As well as telling Raven they could now persue a relationship after telling her he didn’t lover her.
** After X-Ryoga found out that he taught an experimental technique with unknown outcomes to Jinx and Starfire T-Ryoga used a combination of InsaneTrollLogic and out right lies to explain why he was justified. Yet when Jinx tried to use that technique of X-Shampoo he flat out used X-Ryoga’s reasoning for why it wasn’t a good idea.
** T-Ryoga fought the BrainwashedAndCrazy ukyo he didn’t hesitate to go in for the kill yet he raised holy hell when X-Ryoga tried to stop he StrawVulcan Cyborg.
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* MoralDissonance: The Titan’s Titan's see themselves as morally superior because they come from a black and white universe while TRTC is black and grey. However they are shown to be hypocritical apathetic and even amoral at times. They see nothing wrong with allowing Jinx and Ryoga to stay coerced into loving each other (Ryoga consciously stays that way), T-Ryoga and Jinx antagonize nearly everyone they talk to. Jinx is entirely self absorbed regularly ignoring other peoples wishes and safety (as well as her own) to get what she wants.
wants.
** Their reliance on HeroInsurance seems to be the major cause of this as there are far more consequences in X-COM then there are in the DCAU. When they first arrived the Titans caused a lot of property damage and even injuries yet were surprised and even angry when authorities tried to apprehendthem
them
* MoralMyopia: T-Ryoga comes across as incredibly hypocritical throughout the story to the point where he could qualify for the new trope qualifier. One of the first conversation he has is calling out Raven for not exceptingJinx’s Jinx's GoodIsNotNice mentality his argument was literally word for word is relationship with T-Ranma.
** When Raven went DrunkOnTheDarkSide Ryoga tried to talk her down saying how wrong it was to force someone to love her conveniently forgetting that he refuses to cure his and Jinx coercion to love eachother.
other.
*** Going further afterJinx’s Jinx's coercion was cured he cried about the fact that she now had a choice not to love him. As well as telling Raven they could now persue a relationship after telling her he didn’t didn't lover her.
** After X-Ryoga found out that he taught an experimental technique with unknown outcomes to Jinx and Starfire T-Ryoga used a combination of InsaneTrollLogic and out right lies to explain why he was justified. Yet when Jinx tried to use that technique of X-Shampoo he flat out usedX-Ryoga’s X-Ryoga's reasoning for why it wasn’t wasn't a good idea.
idea.
** T-Ryoga fought the BrainwashedAndCrazy ukyo hedidn’t didn't hesitate to go in for the kill yet he raised holy hell when X-Ryoga tried to stop he StrawVulcan Cyborg.
** Their reliance on HeroInsurance seems to be the major cause of this as there are far more consequences in X-COM then there are in the DCAU. When they first arrived the Titans caused a lot of property damage and even injuries yet were surprised and even angry when authorities tried to apprehend
* MoralMyopia: T-Ryoga comes across as incredibly hypocritical throughout the story to the point where he could qualify for the new trope qualifier. One of the first conversation he has is calling out Raven for not excepting
** When Raven went DrunkOnTheDarkSide Ryoga tried to talk her down saying how wrong it was to force someone to love her conveniently forgetting that he refuses to cure his and Jinx coercion to love each
*** Going further after
** After X-Ryoga found out that he taught an experimental technique with unknown outcomes to Jinx and Starfire T-Ryoga used a combination of InsaneTrollLogic and out right lies to explain why he was justified. Yet when Jinx tried to use that technique of X-Shampoo he flat out used
** T-Ryoga fought the BrainwashedAndCrazy ukyo he
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*** This is mostly due to his repeated use of passive aggressive combat. In the Hulk Dimension both Jinx and Nabiki ended up hurt at the same time T-Ryoga was furious that X-Ryoga noticed Nabiki’s injuries first while downplaying them.
** Starfire shows signs of this as well after her MindRape by X-COM Starfire has shown increasing signs of FantasticRacism to the point where she sounds remarkably similar to Val Yor such as referring to her fellow the good humans. However it comes to the head when it is found out that the Tamaranian had similar wars with the Gordanians, the Citadel, the Psions, and the Trillarians as X-COM and the aliens all of which ended in genocide. Yet she repeatedly calls X-COM out on their tactics even wondering if they are the good guys. you know she’d be furious if anyone said the same thing about the Tamaranians and those four civilizations.
** Despite the hypocrisy Starfire’s animosity with X-COM is more of a case of GreyAndGrayMorality however despite her anger at her MindRape she saw nothing wrong with allowing Ryoga and Jinx to stay coerced into loving each other. Jinx even called her out on this after she was cured.
** The Titan’s refusal to except the HeroInsurance doesn’t apply in the [=X-COMVerse=] as the LetsYouAndHimFight originally started due to the massive amounts of collateral damage caused by their entry into the world.
** Starfire shows signs of this as well after her MindRape by X-COM Starfire has shown increasing signs of FantasticRacism to the point where she sounds remarkably similar to Val Yor such as referring to her fellow the good humans. However it comes to the head when it is found out that the Tamaranian had similar wars with the Gordanians, the Citadel, the Psions, and the Trillarians as X-COM and the aliens all of which ended in genocide. Yet she repeatedly calls X-COM out on their tactics even wondering if they are the good guys. you know she’d be furious if anyone said the same thing about the Tamaranians and those four civilizations.
** Despite the hypocrisy Starfire’s animosity with X-COM is more of a case of GreyAndGrayMorality however despite her anger at her MindRape she saw nothing wrong with allowing Ryoga and Jinx to stay coerced into loving each other. Jinx even called her out on this after she was cured.
** The Titan’s refusal to except the HeroInsurance doesn’t apply in the [=X-COMVerse=] as the LetsYouAndHimFight originally started due to the massive amounts of collateral damage caused by their entry into the world.
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*** This is mostly due to his repeated use of passive aggressive combat. In the Hulk Dimension both Jinx and Nabiki ended up hurt at the same time T-Ryoga was furious that X-Ryoga noticed Nabiki’s Nabiki's injuries first while downplaying them.
them.
** Starfire shows signs of this as well after her MindRape by X-COM Starfire has shown increasing signs of FantasticRacism to the point where she sounds remarkably similar to Val Yor such as referring to her fellow the good humans. However it comes to the head when it is found out that the Tamaranian had similar wars with the Gordanians, the Citadel, the Psions, and the Trillarians as X-COM and the aliens all of which ended in genocide. Yet she repeatedly calls X-COM out on their tactics even wondering if they are the good guys. you knowshe’d she'd be furious if anyone said the same thing about the Tamaranians and those four civilizations.
** Despite the hypocrisyStarfire’s Starfire's animosity with X-COM is more of a case of GreyAndGrayMorality however despite her anger at her MindRape she saw nothing wrong with allowing Ryoga and Jinx to stay coerced into loving each other. Jinx even called her out on this after she was cured.
** TheTitan’s Titan's refusal to except the HeroInsurance doesn’t doesn't apply in the [=X-COMVerse=] as the LetsYouAndHimFight originally started due to the massive amounts of collateral damage caused by their entry into the world. world.
** Starfire shows signs of this as well after her MindRape by X-COM Starfire has shown increasing signs of FantasticRacism to the point where she sounds remarkably similar to Val Yor such as referring to her fellow the good humans. However it comes to the head when it is found out that the Tamaranian had similar wars with the Gordanians, the Citadel, the Psions, and the Trillarians as X-COM and the aliens all of which ended in genocide. Yet she repeatedly calls X-COM out on their tactics even wondering if they are the good guys. you know
** Despite the hypocrisy
** The
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** It’s telling that Raven can tell Ranma things that she can’t tell to her Titan’s or even Ryoga. Being able to speak to Ranma is a greatly appreciated outlet for her in trying to cope with being Trigon’s daughter, perhaps the only thing keeping her from retreating completely from her friends out of fear.
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** It’s It's telling that Raven can tell Ranma things that she can’t can't tell to her Titan’s Titan's or even Ryoga. Being able to speak to Ranma is a greatly appreciated outlet for her in trying to cope with being Trigon’s Trigon's daughter, perhaps the only thing keeping her from retreating completely from her friends out of fear.
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--> '''Raven''': I have no excuse. At no point was I not in control of my own actions. Everything that I did... it all seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
--> '''X-COM Ryoga''': But you're right, You don't have excuses. You were seduced, not controlled. You let down your team and your friends and you're going to have to live with that.
* MostCommonSuperPower: Raven if Ryu is anything to go by.
** If fact according to Raven many bloggers refer to her as such on a regular basis.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Konetsu felt this way about his exploits in the Space Hulk Dimension
--> '''Konetsu''': No phantoms of the past returned to haunt him; to admonish him; to mock him. Instead, his mind dredged up memories of fighting Shampoo, of turning on his friends, of giving into his selfishness and fear and frustration and anger. He didn't need ghosts of the past to lash out at him. His own actions were as damning now as they had been when he was young and still a virtual slave to his step-sisters.
* MyGreatestFailure: Back in ''FanFic/DarkTitans'', Titans Ryouga, after having FakeMemories implanted by Brother Blood, managed to maim almost every member of the Teen Titans, Raven in particular. Then, after having his true memories returned, he proceeded to nearly [[AngstNuke nuke]] Jump City. While the other Titans forgive him, [[TheAtoner he has yet to forgive himself.]]
** Nabiki’s time at Meiji University really was a turning point for her.
--> '''X-COM Ryoga''': But you're right, You don't have excuses. You were seduced, not controlled. You let down your team and your friends and you're going to have to live with that.
* MostCommonSuperPower: Raven if Ryu is anything to go by.
** If fact according to Raven many bloggers refer to her as such on a regular basis.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Konetsu felt this way about his exploits in the Space Hulk Dimension
--> '''Konetsu''': No phantoms of the past returned to haunt him; to admonish him; to mock him. Instead, his mind dredged up memories of fighting Shampoo, of turning on his friends, of giving into his selfishness and fear and frustration and anger. He didn't need ghosts of the past to lash out at him. His own actions were as damning now as they had been when he was young and still a virtual slave to his step-sisters.
* MyGreatestFailure: Back in ''FanFic/DarkTitans'', Titans Ryouga, after having FakeMemories implanted by Brother Blood, managed to maim almost every member of the Teen Titans, Raven in particular. Then, after having his true memories returned, he proceeded to nearly [[AngstNuke nuke]] Jump City. While the other Titans forgive him, [[TheAtoner he has yet to forgive himself.]]
** Nabiki’s time at Meiji University really was a turning point for her.
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-->
'''X-COM
* MostCommonSuperPower: Raven if Ryu is anything to go
**
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Konetsu felt this way about his exploits in the Space Hulk
--> '''Konetsu''':
-->'''Konetsu:''' No phantoms of the past returned to haunt him; to admonish him; to mock him. Instead, his mind dredged up memories of fighting Shampoo, of turning on his friends, of giving into his selfishness and fear and frustration and anger. He didn't need ghosts of the past to lash out at him. His own actions were as damning now as they had been when he was young and still a virtual slave to his step-sisters.
*
** Back in
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* NeverMyFault: It wouldn’t be a Ryoga centric fanfic if this trope wasn’t in play on of the first instances in the fic is him trying to blame Ranma for Raven and Jinx not getting along.
--> '''Ryoga''': To avoid hurting any of my friends. Damnit, this has to be Ranma's fault somehow.
** The problem is that this trope soon becomes his defining traits to the point where he comes across as a SpoiledBrat such as when he blamed his parents for all of the bad decisions he made because the Hibiki curse met they couldn’t spend a lot of time with each other.
*** Made all the hypocritical given his reaction to finding out about his father’s condition. Speaking of which when he rushed off looking to fight X-Ryoga and ended up getting lost he contemplated attacking the first person he saw to demand answers.
** When informed that the Titan’s actions have caused Akira to experience a FateWorseThanDeath he replied that at least his conscious was clear.
--> '''T-Ryoga''': Yeah, I know what they say about good intentions, too. But they also say that all it takes for evil to win is for good men to do nothing. At least we took action, for better or for worse. Maybe we did try, and fail, and we'll probably end up feeling worse about it than those of you that gave up before you even began ... but at least we'll know we tried.
** it got worse when he entered the Hulk Dimensions as he got increasingly passive aggressive During a mission Jinx ended up causing a collapse (its unknown weather it was intentional or not) injuring X-Ryoga and damaging his air supply. He and Jinx ended up combining their abilities to get back to the ship however the combination ended up being power art a price critically injuring both X-Ryoga and Jinx. T-Ryoga ignored this calling Ukyo monsters for allowing it to happen. However Ukyo quickly called him out on his hypocrisy.
** However it is mostly caused by the Titans inability to except the fact that HeroInsurance no longer applies and that there are now consequences to their actions causing them to see X-COM’s attempts at trying to reign them in as heartless and evil. For example their entry into the universe caused substantial collateral damage and even injuries the army trying to put a stop to them was considered inexcusable.
--> '''Ryoga''': I know. And I know it's not fair. But that's just the way it is. We have to play by the rules here, no matter how abhorrent. These people are fanatics about protecting their world from any threats. Even though we've helped them out repeatedly, don't doubt for a second that they'd turn on us like a scorpion if we give them cause. I don't want anything bad to happen to you, to any of us, so you have to use your head more, okay?
** It has also been shown to be caused by an InferioritySuperiorityComplex on T-Ryoga’s part as though he tries to ignore it he does blame himself for the situation the titan’s are in in the back of his mind. Which is why he used Ukyo instead of Raven when argueing with X-Ryoga about Cyborg’s take over.
** Jinx is even worse due to her ItsAllAboutMe mentality for example Akira is only in her FateWorseThanDeath because she didn’t care what [[DyingAsYourself Akira wanted]]. However when she found out she viciously attacked Kasumi who had nothing to do with it. Later she called Kasumi out for trying to appease her by offering to introduce her to Tetsuya thinking she was lying to get out of her beating.
--> '''Jinx''': For Everything that she was…Akari was a moron, you wouldn’t even believe wouldn’t even believe the stuff she would go on about while we were out in the woods. She was so damn wrapped up in her ideas and perceptions on how things were supposed to work between people. She was probably so worried about messing up Ry – the Lieutenant’s life, that she just told him to off her to give him an easy out. And what right did he have to do that, anyway? She was my Akari, not his. I made her, I nearly killed myself a dozen times over just to get her out of there… and then he thinks he can just waltz in and kill her? just like that?
** Averted with Cyborg who after a short bout of SuperJerkassery had a HeelRealization and realized that HeroInsurance doesn’t apply in this universe.
--> '''Ryoga''': To avoid hurting any of my friends. Damnit, this has to be Ranma's fault somehow.
** The problem is that this trope soon becomes his defining traits to the point where he comes across as a SpoiledBrat such as when he blamed his parents for all of the bad decisions he made because the Hibiki curse met they couldn’t spend a lot of time with each other.
*** Made all the hypocritical given his reaction to finding out about his father’s condition. Speaking of which when he rushed off looking to fight X-Ryoga and ended up getting lost he contemplated attacking the first person he saw to demand answers.
** When informed that the Titan’s actions have caused Akira to experience a FateWorseThanDeath he replied that at least his conscious was clear.
--> '''T-Ryoga''': Yeah, I know what they say about good intentions, too. But they also say that all it takes for evil to win is for good men to do nothing. At least we took action, for better or for worse. Maybe we did try, and fail, and we'll probably end up feeling worse about it than those of you that gave up before you even began ... but at least we'll know we tried.
** it got worse when he entered the Hulk Dimensions as he got increasingly passive aggressive During a mission Jinx ended up causing a collapse (its unknown weather it was intentional or not) injuring X-Ryoga and damaging his air supply. He and Jinx ended up combining their abilities to get back to the ship however the combination ended up being power art a price critically injuring both X-Ryoga and Jinx. T-Ryoga ignored this calling Ukyo monsters for allowing it to happen. However Ukyo quickly called him out on his hypocrisy.
** However it is mostly caused by the Titans inability to except the fact that HeroInsurance no longer applies and that there are now consequences to their actions causing them to see X-COM’s attempts at trying to reign them in as heartless and evil. For example their entry into the universe caused substantial collateral damage and even injuries the army trying to put a stop to them was considered inexcusable.
--> '''Ryoga''': I know. And I know it's not fair. But that's just the way it is. We have to play by the rules here, no matter how abhorrent. These people are fanatics about protecting their world from any threats. Even though we've helped them out repeatedly, don't doubt for a second that they'd turn on us like a scorpion if we give them cause. I don't want anything bad to happen to you, to any of us, so you have to use your head more, okay?
** It has also been shown to be caused by an InferioritySuperiorityComplex on T-Ryoga’s part as though he tries to ignore it he does blame himself for the situation the titan’s are in in the back of his mind. Which is why he used Ukyo instead of Raven when argueing with X-Ryoga about Cyborg’s take over.
** Jinx is even worse due to her ItsAllAboutMe mentality for example Akira is only in her FateWorseThanDeath because she didn’t care what [[DyingAsYourself Akira wanted]]. However when she found out she viciously attacked Kasumi who had nothing to do with it. Later she called Kasumi out for trying to appease her by offering to introduce her to Tetsuya thinking she was lying to get out of her beating.
--> '''Jinx''': For Everything that she was…Akari was a moron, you wouldn’t even believe wouldn’t even believe the stuff she would go on about while we were out in the woods. She was so damn wrapped up in her ideas and perceptions on how things were supposed to work between people. She was probably so worried about messing up Ry – the Lieutenant’s life, that she just told him to off her to give him an easy out. And what right did he have to do that, anyway? She was my Akari, not his. I made her, I nearly killed myself a dozen times over just to get her out of there… and then he thinks he can just waltz in and kill her? just like that?
** Averted with Cyborg who after a short bout of SuperJerkassery had a HeelRealization and realized that HeroInsurance doesn’t apply in this universe.
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* NeverMyFault: It wouldn’t wouldn't be a Ryoga centric fanfic if this trope wasn’t wasn't in play on of the first instances in the fic is him trying to blame Ranma for Raven and Jinx not getting along.
--> '''Ryoga''': -->'''Ryoga:''' To avoid hurting any of my friends. Damnit, this has to be Ranma's fault somehow.
** The problem is that this trope soon becomes his defining traits to the point where he comes across as a SpoiledBrat such as when he blamed his parents for all of the bad decisions he made because the Hibiki curse met theycouldn’t couldn't spend a lot of time with each other.
other.
*** Made all the hypocritical given his reaction to finding out about hisfather’s father's condition. Speaking of which when he rushed off looking to fight X-Ryoga and ended up getting lost he contemplated attacking the first person he saw to demand answers.
** When informed that theTitan’s Titan's actions have caused Akira to experience a FateWorseThanDeath he replied that at least his conscious was clear.
--> '''T-Ryoga''': --->'''T-Ryoga:''' Yeah, I know what they say about good intentions, too. But they also say that all it takes for evil to win is for good men to do nothing. At least we took action, for better or for worse. Maybe we did try, and fail, and we'll probably end up feeling worse about it than those of you that gave up before you even began ... but at least we'll know we tried.
** it got worse when he entered the Hulk Dimensions as he got increasingly passive aggressive During a mission Jinx ended up causing a collapse (its unknown weather it was intentional or not) injuring X-Ryoga and damaging his air supply. He and Jinx ended up combining their abilities to get back to the ship however the combination ended up being power art a price critically injuring both X-Ryoga and Jinx. T-Ryoga ignored this calling Ukyo monsters for allowing it to happen. However Ukyo quickly called him out on hishypocrisy.
hypocrisy.
** However it is mostly caused by the Titans inability to except the fact that HeroInsurance no longer applies and that there are now consequences to their actions causing them to seeX-COM’s X-COM's attempts at trying to reign them in as heartless and evil. For example their entry into the universe caused substantial collateral damage and even injuries the army trying to put a stop to them was considered inexcusable.
--> '''Ryoga''':inexcusable.
--->'''Ryoga:''' I know. And I know it's not fair. But that's just the way it is. We have to play by the rules here, no matter how abhorrent. These people are fanatics about protecting their world from any threats. Even though we've helped them out repeatedly, don't doubt for a second that they'd turn on us like a scorpion if we give them cause. I don't want anything bad to happen to you, to any of us, so you have to use your head more, okay?
** It has also been shown to be caused by an InferioritySuperiorityComplex onT-Ryoga’s T-Ryoga's part as though he tries to ignore it he does blame himself for the situation the titan’s titan's are in in the back of his mind. Which is why he used Ukyo instead of Raven when argueing with X-Ryoga about Cyborg’s Cyborg's take over.
over.
** Jinx is even worse due to her ItsAllAboutMe mentality for example Akira is only in her FateWorseThanDeath because shedidn’t didn't care what [[DyingAsYourself Akira wanted]]. However when she found out she viciously attacked Kasumi who had nothing to do with it. Later she called Kasumi out for trying to appease her by offering to introduce her to Tetsuya thinking she was lying to get out of her beating.
--> '''Jinx''':beating.
--->'''Jinx:''' For Everything that shewas…Akari was... Akari was a moron, you wouldn’t even believe wouldn’t wouldn't even believe the stuff she would go on about while we were out in the woods. She was so damn wrapped up in her ideas and perceptions on how things were supposed to work between people. She was probably so worried about messing up Ry – Ry-- the Lieutenant’s Lieutenant's life, that she just told him to off her to give him an easy out. And what right did he have to do that, anyway? She was my Akari, not his. I made her, I nearly killed myself a dozen times over just to get her out of there… there... and then he thinks he can just waltz in and kill her? just like that?
that?
** Averted with Cyborg who after a short bout of SuperJerkassery had a HeelRealization and realized that HeroInsurancedoesn’t doesn't apply in this universe. universe.
** The problem is that this trope soon becomes his defining traits to the point where he comes across as a SpoiledBrat such as when he blamed his parents for all of the bad decisions he made because the Hibiki curse met they
*** Made all the hypocritical given his reaction to finding out about his
** When informed that the
** it got worse when he entered the Hulk Dimensions as he got increasingly passive aggressive During a mission Jinx ended up causing a collapse (its unknown weather it was intentional or not) injuring X-Ryoga and damaging his air supply. He and Jinx ended up combining their abilities to get back to the ship however the combination ended up being power art a price critically injuring both X-Ryoga and Jinx. T-Ryoga ignored this calling Ukyo monsters for allowing it to happen. However Ukyo quickly called him out on his
** However it is mostly caused by the Titans inability to except the fact that HeroInsurance no longer applies and that there are now consequences to their actions causing them to see
--> '''Ryoga''':
--->'''Ryoga:''' I know. And I know it's not fair. But that's just the way it is. We have to play by the rules here, no matter how abhorrent. These people are fanatics about protecting their world from any threats. Even though we've helped them out repeatedly, don't doubt for a second that they'd turn on us like a scorpion if we give them cause. I don't want anything bad to happen to you, to any of us, so you have to use your head more, okay?
** It has also been shown to be caused by an InferioritySuperiorityComplex on
** Jinx is even worse due to her ItsAllAboutMe mentality for example Akira is only in her FateWorseThanDeath because she
--> '''Jinx''':
--->'''Jinx:''' For Everything that she
** Averted with Cyborg who after a short bout of SuperJerkassery had a HeelRealization and realized that HeroInsurance
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* NoGuyWantsAnAmazon: X-Com Ryoga always fancied himself ending up with a weak, mostly normal girl to protect. While Nabiki may be pretty normal comparatively she isn’t the type to cower and let him jump in to rescue her and look cool. Which meant all his old fantasies of fighting an implacable enemy while his girlfriend constantly yelled "Ryouga-samaaaa!" with tears in her eyes weren’t going to happen.
* NominalHero: Mousse shows signs of being this from time to time. When told that there might be a world ending apocalyptic threat to the Titan’s earth his reply was that as long as it wasn’t his earth he didn’t care.
* NominalHero: Mousse shows signs of being this from time to time. When told that there might be a world ending apocalyptic threat to the Titan’s earth his reply was that as long as it wasn’t his earth he didn’t care.
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* NoGuyWantsAnAmazon: X-Com Ryoga always fancied himself ending up with a weak, mostly normal girl to protect. While Nabiki may be pretty normal comparatively she isn’t isn't the type to cower and let him jump in to rescue her and look cool. Which meant all his old fantasies of fighting an implacable enemy while his girlfriend constantly yelled "Ryouga-samaaaa!" "Ryoga-samaaaa!" with tears in her eyes weren’t weren't going to happen.
happen.
* NominalHero: Mousse shows signs of being this from time to time. When told that there might be a world ending apocalyptic threat to theTitan’s Titan's earth his reply was that as long as it wasn’t wasn't his earth he didn’t didn't care.
* NominalHero: Mousse shows signs of being this from time to time. When told that there might be a world ending apocalyptic threat to the
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** Ryoga’s time in Atlantis.
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** Ryoga’s Ryoga's time in Atlantis.
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* NotInKansasAnymore: The Titan’s with the exception of Cyborg refused to except the fact that many of the rules they apply to such as HeroInsurance and BlackAndWhiteMorality no longer apply in the X-COM universe. It is for this reason that many consider them DesignatedHero (s) as they continue to claim moral superiority while continuing to cause problem after problem by not being willing to adapt.
--> '''Jinx''': This isn't like Atlantis, Ryouga. There, if we knocked someone out, they were pretty much out of the fight. Here, even if we leave an enemy completely helpless, they can still get us, or other people, killed. We need to do this, hard, fast and final. Do you understand?
--> '''Jinx''': This isn't like Atlantis, Ryouga. There, if we knocked someone out, they were pretty much out of the fight. Here, even if we leave an enemy completely helpless, they can still get us, or other people, killed. We need to do this, hard, fast and final. Do you understand?
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* NotInKansasAnymore: The Titan’s Titan's with the exception of Cyborg refused to except the fact that many of the rules they apply to such as HeroInsurance and BlackAndWhiteMorality no longer apply in the X-COM universe. It is for this reason that many consider them DesignatedHero (s) as they continue to claim moral superiority while continuing to cause problem after problem by not being willing to adapt.
--> '''Jinx''': -->'''Jinx:''' This isn't like Atlantis, Ryouga.Ryoga. There, if we knocked someone out, they were pretty much out of the fight. Here, even if we leave an enemy completely helpless, they can still get us, or other people, killed. We need to do this, hard, fast and final. Do you understand?
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* NoSympathy: The Titan’s have numerous instances of this as a sign of their [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a level in jerkass]]. The most obvious is the LoveTriangle between Jinx, Raven and Ryoga. Despite being aware that Jinx and Ryoga are mentally coerced into loving each other the titan’s show a surprisingly LackOfEmpathy for Raven’s feeling. Starfire even went so far as to admonish her for not trying hard enough.
** Their allowing the mental coercion to happen is a sign as this as well. In fact after Raven got rid of it everyone kept telling Jinx how hurt Ryoga was by it forcing her to [[WhatTheHellHero call them out]] on ignoring her feeling in the matter.
** Raven isn’t immune to this however as her reason you suck speech to X-Ryoga was basically telling him that his suffering and fears didn’t matter because she didn’t benefit from them.
** Their allowing the mental coercion to happen is a sign as this as well. In fact after Raven got rid of it everyone kept telling Jinx how hurt Ryoga was by it forcing her to [[WhatTheHellHero call them out]] on ignoring her feeling in the matter.
** Raven isn’t immune to this however as her reason you suck speech to X-Ryoga was basically telling him that his suffering and fears didn’t matter because she didn’t benefit from them.
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* NoSympathy: The Titan’s Titan's have numerous instances of this as a sign of their [[TookALevelInJerkass taking a level in jerkass]]. The most obvious is the LoveTriangle between Jinx, Raven and Ryoga. Despite being aware that Jinx and Ryoga are mentally coerced into loving each other the titan’s titan's show a surprisingly LackOfEmpathy for Raven’s Raven's feeling. Starfire even went so far as to admonish her for not trying hard enough.
** Their allowing the mental coercion to happen is a sign as this as well. In fact after Raven got rid of it everyone kept telling Jinx how hurt Ryoga was by it forcing her to [[WhatTheHellHero call them out]] on ignoring her feeling in thematter.
matter.
** Ravenisn’t isn't immune to this however as her reason you suck speech to X-Ryoga was basically telling him that his suffering and fears didn’t didn't matter because she didn’t didn't benefit from them. them.
** Their allowing the mental coercion to happen is a sign as this as well. In fact after Raven got rid of it everyone kept telling Jinx how hurt Ryoga was by it forcing her to [[WhatTheHellHero call them out]] on ignoring her feeling in the
** Raven
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* NotHelpingYourCase: As Cyborg mentioned the warriors of the X-COM universe are fighting an unyielding threat to their very existence. This has caused them to take on a firm with us or against us mentality. This is the reason Starfire doesn’t trust Juliet and India squad as she believes that they would only need a single reason to turn against her. However her increasing humans are the real bastards mentality to the point of saying her friends are wasted as human’s [[StrawmanHasAPoint makes it hard not to see where they’re coming from]].
* NotQuiteSavedEnough: Despite Ryouga breaking free of [[spoiler: Raven's mind control]] in time to rescue Jinx, then managing to get her to the ship quick enough to save her life, it turns out that [[spoiler: Raven already erased her love for and memories of her relationship with Ryouga.]]
* NotSoDifferentRemark: Akari compares Jinx to Akane and Nabiki. All three are the type to ask Ryouga something, knowing he wouldn't know how to say 'no.'
* NotQuiteSavedEnough: Despite Ryouga breaking free of [[spoiler: Raven's mind control]] in time to rescue Jinx, then managing to get her to the ship quick enough to save her life, it turns out that [[spoiler: Raven already erased her love for and memories of her relationship with Ryouga.]]
* NotSoDifferentRemark: Akari compares Jinx to Akane and Nabiki. All three are the type to ask Ryouga something, knowing he wouldn't know how to say 'no.'
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* NotHelpingYourCase: As Cyborg mentioned the warriors of the X-COM universe are fighting an unyielding threat to their very existence. This has caused them to take on a firm with us or against us mentality. This is the reason Starfire doesn’t doesn't trust Juliet and India squad as she believes that they would only need a single reason to turn against her. However her increasing humans are the real bastards mentality to the point of saying her friends are wasted as human’s human's [[StrawmanHasAPoint makes it hard not to see where they’re they're coming from]].
* NotQuiteSavedEnough: DespiteRyouga Ryoga breaking free of [[spoiler: Raven's mind control]] in time to rescue Jinx, then managing to get her to the ship quick enough to save her life, it turns out that [[spoiler: Raven already erased her love for and memories of her relationship with Ryouga.Ryoga.]]
* NotSoDifferentRemark: Akari compares Jinx to Akane and Nabiki. All three are the type to askRyouga Ryoga something, knowing he wouldn't know how to say 'no.' '
* NotQuiteSavedEnough: Despite
* NotSoDifferentRemark: Akari compares Jinx to Akane and Nabiki. All three are the type to ask
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* ObviouslyEvil: T-Ryoga’s massive hypocrisy and MoralMyopia makes him come across like this sometimes. For example when he found out that his mother had embarrassing baby pictures of X-Ryoga he started laughing maniacally.
** Many readers guessed that Tresspasser was the BigBad as they felt that there was something wrong with Trespasser. Maybe not that he is outright evil but that he seems ...separate from the other Oans. Like he doesn't share the same goals the Corps does. [[WellIntentionedExtremist And in pursuit of his goals he treats others as disposable pawns]].
** Many readers guessed that Tresspasser was the BigBad as they felt that there was something wrong with Trespasser. Maybe not that he is outright evil but that he seems ...separate from the other Oans. Like he doesn't share the same goals the Corps does. [[WellIntentionedExtremist And in pursuit of his goals he treats others as disposable pawns]].
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* ObviouslyEvil: T-Ryoga’s T-Ryoga's massive hypocrisy and MoralMyopia makes him come across like this sometimes. For example when he found out that his mother had embarrassing baby pictures of X-Ryoga he started laughing maniacally.
** Many readers guessed that Tresspasser was the BigBad as they felt that there was something wrong with Trespasser. Maybe not that he is outright evil but that he seems ...separate from the other Oans. Like he doesn't share the same goals the Corps does. [[WellIntentionedExtremist And in pursuit of his goals he treats others as disposable pawns]].
** Many readers guessed that Tresspasser was the BigBad as they felt that there was something wrong with Trespasser. Maybe not that he is outright evil but that he seems ...separate from the other Oans. Like he doesn't share the same goals the Corps does. [[WellIntentionedExtremist And in pursuit of his goals he treats others as disposable pawns]].
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** X-COM as a hole are this as despite their status as DesignatedVillain they are far more willing to put up with the antics of the Titan’s then vise versa. They are willing to at least show professional courtesy.
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: Akane noticing Ranma and X-Ryoga’s haggard appearances when they were getting ready for Operation Pathfinder.
** When Azarath went to hell after Raven became DrunkOnTheDarkSide everyone knew something was wrong when Ranma’s voice didn’t carry its usual strength and confidence.
** When they came across an unknown alien ship in the hulk dimension Ranma’s first thought was to go in and kill everyone so that they could steel their tech.
*** Actually he was thinking that they should be prepared incase the aliens were hostile the Titan’s jump to the conclusion that he wanted to rush in guns blazing.
** When Azarath went to hell after Raven became DrunkOnTheDarkSide everyone knew something was wrong when Ranma’s voice didn’t carry its usual strength and confidence.
** When they came across an unknown alien ship in the hulk dimension Ranma’s first thought was to go in and kill everyone so that they could steel their tech.
*** Actually he was thinking that they should be prepared incase the aliens were hostile the Titan’s jump to the conclusion that he wanted to rush in guns blazing.
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: Akane noticing Ranma and X-Ryoga’s X-Ryoga's haggard appearances when they were getting ready for Operation Pathfinder.
Pathfinder.
** When Azarath went to hell after Raven became DrunkOnTheDarkSide everyone knew something was wrong whenRanma’s Ranma's voice didn’t didn't carry its usual strength and confidence.
confidence.
** When they came across an unknown alien ship in the hulk dimensionRanma’s Ranma's first thought was to go in and kill everyone so that they could steel their tech.
*** Actually he was thinking that they should be prepared incase the aliens were hostile theTitan’s Titan's jump to the conclusion that he wanted to rush in guns blazing. blazing.
** When Azarath went to hell after Raven became DrunkOnTheDarkSide everyone knew something was wrong when
** When they came across an unknown alien ship in the hulk dimension
*** Actually he was thinking that they should be prepared incase the aliens were hostile the
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*** FridgeBrilliance It could be seen as the ultimate sign of ranma’s trust
*** That doesn’t explain why he would tell them to Yankee squad.
** This also doubles as a BigLippedAlligatorMoment but Ranma openly stating that he wants to see a bunch of girls and middle aged milfs prancing around like priests in a pervy RPG comes across as this as it comes completely out of left field.
** The Titan’s come across as forced especially when they first entered the X-COM universe. For example a few readers felt that Starfire reflexively melting a police officers gun feels very forced. She is not trigger happy even under the worse conditions let alone as she was.
** Raven and Ryoga come out of a strange dimensional vortex, which they survived only by combining their unique abilities. They don’t know what happened to their friends in the lab, they can’t make contact with anybody and they…are thinking about taking a day or two off to play tourist. Huh? What? Does this method of inter-universe travel scramble your brain unless it’s partly computer like Cyborg’s?
*** That doesn’t explain why he would tell them to Yankee squad.
** This also doubles as a BigLippedAlligatorMoment but Ranma openly stating that he wants to see a bunch of girls and middle aged milfs prancing around like priests in a pervy RPG comes across as this as it comes completely out of left field.
** The Titan’s come across as forced especially when they first entered the X-COM universe. For example a few readers felt that Starfire reflexively melting a police officers gun feels very forced. She is not trigger happy even under the worse conditions let alone as she was.
** Raven and Ryoga come out of a strange dimensional vortex, which they survived only by combining their unique abilities. They don’t know what happened to their friends in the lab, they can’t make contact with anybody and they…are thinking about taking a day or two off to play tourist. Huh? What? Does this method of inter-universe travel scramble your brain unless it’s partly computer like Cyborg’s?
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*** FridgeBrilliance It could be seen as the ultimate sign of ranma’s ranma's trust
*** Thatdoesn’t doesn't explain why he would tell them to Yankee squad.
squad.
** This also doubles as a BigLippedAlligatorMoment but Ranma openly stating that he wants to see a bunch of girls and middle aged milfs prancing around like priests in a pervy RPG comes across as this as it comes completely out of leftfield.
field.
** TheTitan’s Titan's come across as forced especially when they first entered the X-COM universe. For example a few readers felt that Starfire reflexively melting a police officers gun feels very forced. She is not trigger happy even under the worse conditions let alone as she was.
** Raven and Ryoga come out of a strange dimensional vortex, which they survived only by combining their unique abilities. Theydon’t don't know what happened to their friends in the lab, they can’t can't make contact with anybody and they…are thinking about taking a day or two off to play tourist. Huh? What? Does this method of inter-universe travel scramble your brain unless it’s it's partly computer like Cyborg’s?Cyborg's?
*** That
** This also doubles as a BigLippedAlligatorMoment but Ranma openly stating that he wants to see a bunch of girls and middle aged milfs prancing around like priests in a pervy RPG comes across as this as it comes completely out of left
** The
** Raven and Ryoga come out of a strange dimensional vortex, which they survived only by combining their unique abilities. They
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--> '''Ryoga''': Right, right, of course. I'll just set up over here. On the floor. The cold, cold floor.
* OppositesAttract: X-COM Ryouga is paired off with Nabiki, [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope who wants him to head her]] [[PsychoForHire mercenary organization]] (which pretty much requires him to strongly rein her in if her HeelFaceTurn is going to last).
* OppositesAttract: X-COM Ryouga is paired off with Nabiki, [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope who wants him to head her]] [[PsychoForHire mercenary organization]] (which pretty much requires him to strongly rein her in if her HeelFaceTurn is going to last).
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* OppositesAttract: X-COM
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** A much smaller issue is that Ryoga, whose entire point during the manga was that he liked Akane because he mistook her for a super-strong Kasumi with the same interests as him, was then paired off with a girl much closer to his/their actual ideal, sans the superhuman martial arts (Akari). Nevertheless, X-COM Ryouga is in a relationship with a mischievous psychopath (Nabiki), and DT-Ryouga with a much less extreme sociopath version (Jinx), although he initially ended up attracted to her because of mind-control.
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** A much smaller issue is that Ryoga, whose entire point during the manga was that he liked Akane because he mistook her for a super-strong Kasumi with the same interests as him, was then paired off with a girl much closer to his/their actual ideal, sans the superhuman martial arts (Akari). Nevertheless, X-COM Ryouga Ryoga is in a relationship with a mischievous psychopath (Nabiki), and DT-Ryouga DT-Ryoga with a much less extreme sociopath version (Jinx), although he initially ended up attracted to her because of mind-control.
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--> '''Reava''': How entertaining! We survive certain death in one universe, only to witness this farce in another? Tell me, 'Soundwave', does your proclamation mean what I think it does?
--> '''Cyborg''': You are correct. I do not possess the authority to reinstate members of the crew to duty, even if a marked improvement in mental condition should occur.
--> '''Cyborg''': You are correct. I do not possess the authority to reinstate members of the crew to duty, even if a marked improvement in mental condition should occur.
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--> '''Cyborg''':
'''Cyborg:''' You are correct. I do not possess the authority to reinstate members of the crew to duty, even if a marked improvement in mental condition should occur.
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* ParasolOfPain: Ryouga. Both of him.
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* ParasolOfPain: Ryouga.Ryoga. Both of him.
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* PersonalHorror: Both Ryougas, mainly due to exposure to each other. One reminds the other of all the mistakes he's made, the other makes the first realize just what he's done to himself for the sake of revenge.
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* PersonalHorror: Both Ryougas, Ryogas, mainly due to exposure to each other. One reminds the other of all the mistakes he's made, the other makes the first realize just what he's done to himself for the sake of revenge.
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** The use the technique in the first place in the original series Saffron’s ability to fly made him immune to the Hiryu Shoten Ha since he was able to navigate inside the tornado using his wings. So Ranma used a Ranma used a technique he knew was useless. While Saffron either created a counter for a technique he knew as useless or created a counter that would only make the technique he created it for more powerful since Hiryū Hyō Toppa is what actually defeated him.
*** Ranma freezing in shock at all since Saffron and Herb have already shown that they can counter the technique in their first fight so ranma freezing in shock doesn’t make any sense.
** Nearly every sentence out of Ranma’s mouth contains a pop culture reference that is not only dated but American. Since TheRoadToCydonia is a continuation of the manga and neither Manga Ranma or Ranma in TheRoadToCydonia were ever depicted as watching a lot of tv. Furthermore the TimeSkip is only a few mouths so either Ranma psychically inserted the knowledge into his mind or has been spend every free moment watching tv.
** Both in this fic and the previous one every single one of Ranma’s (boy he has a lot of these) ideas involves him [[SpottingTheThread noticing or seeing something that no one else does]] yet Jinx is able insult Shampoo right infront of him with the reason being specifically stated that he just isn’t observant enough to notice.
** It doesn’t make much sense both in and out of universe that T-Ryoga was chosen to lead squad Yankee over Cyborg as the later as more experience in both being a leader and a superhero. Though this could be more of a case of DramaPreservingHandicap
** Speaking of Ryoga every single argument he has made in the fic utilizes InsaneTrollLogic yet he always wins. However given the nature of this story the person he is arguing with (Shampoo, X-Ryoga) where actually at the time and place he was using in his argument so should have realized this.
** The revelation that Jinx was also coerced into loving T-Ryoga means that Brother Blood intentionally set himself up to fail.
** X-COM allowing Yankee to stay functioning period its shown many times that Jinx and T-Ryoga are insubordinate (T-Ryoga even refusing to learn the codes) putting a huge strain on soldier moral to the point where many don’t want to work with them.
*** Ranma freezing in shock at all since Saffron and Herb have already shown that they can counter the technique in their first fight so ranma freezing in shock doesn’t make any sense.
** Nearly every sentence out of Ranma’s mouth contains a pop culture reference that is not only dated but American. Since TheRoadToCydonia is a continuation of the manga and neither Manga Ranma or Ranma in TheRoadToCydonia were ever depicted as watching a lot of tv. Furthermore the TimeSkip is only a few mouths so either Ranma psychically inserted the knowledge into his mind or has been spend every free moment watching tv.
** Both in this fic and the previous one every single one of Ranma’s (boy he has a lot of these) ideas involves him [[SpottingTheThread noticing or seeing something that no one else does]] yet Jinx is able insult Shampoo right infront of him with the reason being specifically stated that he just isn’t observant enough to notice.
** It doesn’t make much sense both in and out of universe that T-Ryoga was chosen to lead squad Yankee over Cyborg as the later as more experience in both being a leader and a superhero. Though this could be more of a case of DramaPreservingHandicap
** Speaking of Ryoga every single argument he has made in the fic utilizes InsaneTrollLogic yet he always wins. However given the nature of this story the person he is arguing with (Shampoo, X-Ryoga) where actually at the time and place he was using in his argument so should have realized this.
** The revelation that Jinx was also coerced into loving T-Ryoga means that Brother Blood intentionally set himself up to fail.
** X-COM allowing Yankee to stay functioning period its shown many times that Jinx and T-Ryoga are insubordinate (T-Ryoga even refusing to learn the codes) putting a huge strain on soldier moral to the point where many don’t want to work with them.
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** The use the technique in the first place in the original series Saffron’s Saffron's ability to fly made him immune to the Hiryu Shoten Ha since he was able to navigate inside the tornado using his wings. So Ranma used a Ranma used a technique he knew was useless. While Saffron either created a counter for a technique he knew as useless or created a counter that would only make the technique he created it for more powerful since Hiryū Hyō Toppa is what actually defeated him.
him.
*** Ranma freezing in shock at all since Saffron and Herb have already shown that they can counter the technique in their first fight so ranma freezing in shockdoesn’t doesn't make any sense.
sense.
** Nearly every sentence out ofRanma’s Ranma's mouth contains a pop culture reference that is not only dated but American. Since TheRoadToCydonia is a continuation of the manga and neither Manga Ranma or Ranma in TheRoadToCydonia were ever depicted as watching a lot of tv. Furthermore the TimeSkip is only a few mouths so either Ranma psychically inserted the knowledge into his mind or has been spend every free moment watching tv.
** Both in this fic and the previous one every single one ofRanma’s Ranma's (boy he has a lot of these) ideas involves him [[SpottingTheThread noticing or seeing something that no one else does]] yet Jinx is able insult Shampoo right infront of him with the reason being specifically stated that he just isn’t isn't observant enough to notice.
** Itdoesn’t doesn't make much sense both in and out of universe that T-Ryoga was chosen to lead squad Yankee over Cyborg as the later as more experience in both being a leader and a superhero. Though this could be more of a case of DramaPreservingHandicap
** Speaking of Ryoga every single argument he has made in the fic utilizes InsaneTrollLogic yet he always wins. However given the nature of this story the person he is arguing with (Shampoo, X-Ryoga) where actually at the time and place he was using in his argument so should have realizedthis.
this.
** The revelation that Jinx was also coerced into loving T-Ryoga means that Brother Blood intentionally set himself up tofail.
fail.
** X-COM allowing Yankee to stay functioning period its shown many times that Jinx and T-Ryoga are insubordinate (T-Ryoga even refusing to learn the codes) putting a huge strain on soldier moral to the point where manydon’t don't want to work with them. them.
*** Ranma freezing in shock at all since Saffron and Herb have already shown that they can counter the technique in their first fight so ranma freezing in shock
** Nearly every sentence out of
** Both in this fic and the previous one every single one of
** It
** Speaking of Ryoga every single argument he has made in the fic utilizes InsaneTrollLogic yet he always wins. However given the nature of this story the person he is arguing with (Shampoo, X-Ryoga) where actually at the time and place he was using in his argument so should have realized
** The revelation that Jinx was also coerced into loving T-Ryoga means that Brother Blood intentionally set himself up to
** X-COM allowing Yankee to stay functioning period its shown many times that Jinx and T-Ryoga are insubordinate (T-Ryoga even refusing to learn the codes) putting a huge strain on soldier moral to the point where many
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** Jinx’s astonishing increase in martial arts ability to the point where not only can she match the worlds strongest fighters in her own world (it was mentioned she has a match against T-Ranma to determine the heir to anything goes) but match and even defeat the worlds greatest artist in the [=X-COMverse=]. All of this despite the fact that she has only trained with Happosai for about two months.
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** Jinx’s Jinx's astonishing increase in martial arts ability to the point where not only can she match the worlds strongest fighters in her own world (it was mentioned she has a match against T-Ranma to determine the heir to anything goes) but match and even defeat the worlds greatest artist in the [=X-COMverse=]. All of this despite the fact that she has only trained with Happosai for about two months.
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* PotCallingTheKettleBlack: One of the biggest signs of T-Ryoga’s hypocrisy is the fact that he continuously projects his flaws onto others without the slightest hint of irony. For example he called Ukyo out for chasing after Ranma all her life to restore her honor only to change her mind when she found out he was innocent. This from the guy who chased after a guy all over china because he because wasn’t at a fight that Ryoga was four days late for and then chased all the way back to Japan because to him a random girl and panda duo knocked him into a spring.
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* PotCallingTheKettleBlack: PotCallingTheKettleBlack:
** One of the biggest signs ofT-Ryoga’s T-Ryoga's hypocrisy is the fact that he continuously projects his flaws onto others without the slightest hint of irony. For example he called Ukyo out for chasing after Ranma all her life to restore her honor only to change her mind when she found out he was innocent. This from the guy who chased after a guy all over china because he because wasn’t wasn't at a fight that Ryoga was four days late for and then chased all the way back to Japan because to him a random girl and panda duo knocked him into a spring.
** One of the biggest signs of
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--> '''Ukyo''': You're a hundred times worse than I could ever be, a sick, indecisive piece of shit who strings his friends along. A pervert who abused the trust of someone he claimed to love. A moron who doesn't even know when he isn't wanted. An arrogant prick who butts in where he doesn't belong. Don't you try and lecture me, Hibiki. Don't you dare.
** It should be noted that T-Ryoga is perfectly aware that he this
** It should be noted that T-Ryoga is perfectly aware that he this
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** It should be noted that T-Ryoga is perfectly aware that he
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** Initially, in Titans and the Lost Boy, Ryouga (and by extension, the rest of the Ranma crew), as well as Starfire and Cyborg are all drastically reduced in strength. As the story progressed, the author has been slowly been bringing them back up to their levels displayed in the animated series source materials. Ryouga and Starfire are represented as close in strength as a conscious choice by the author, as, although her greatest blatant feat of strength was far beneath manga Ryouga's, she was sometimes able to challenge Cyborg. Cyborg, whose top showing in the animated series include tearing up an office building and using it as a bludgeon, which matches Lime keeping open a closing ravine, is presented as ten times stronger than either of them. It would be about 3 times stronger compared with manga Ryouga, but that may be irrelevant.
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** Initially, in Titans and the Lost Boy, Ryouga Ryoga (and by extension, the rest of the Ranma crew), as well as Starfire and Cyborg are all drastically reduced in strength. As the story progressed, the author has been slowly been bringing them back up to their levels displayed in the animated series source materials. Ryouga Ryoga and Starfire are represented as close in strength as a conscious choice by the author, as, although her greatest blatant feat of strength was far beneath manga Ryouga's, Ryoga's, she was sometimes able to challenge Cyborg. Cyborg, whose top showing in the animated series include tearing up an office building and using it as a bludgeon, which matches Lime keeping open a closing ravine, is presented as ten times stronger than either of them. It would be about 3 times stronger compared with manga Ryouga, Ryoga, but that may be irrelevant.
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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: Jinx’s various sue traits makes T-Ryoga a part of this trope. The major example is her status as the friend nobody likes. Jinx’s is incredibly antagonistic with nearly everyone et Ryoga completely ignores this believing that everyone is just out to get her. It gets much worse in the X-COM universe where not only does this attitude put the Titan’s lives in danger (i.e if X-COM refuses to work with them, or punish them for Jinx’s actions) especially due to her its all about me mentality. the soldiers there can barely give Jinx more more than professional courtesy while she doesn’t even bother with that, but still Ryoga takes her side.
** It should be noted as stated above Raven doesn’t take Jinx’s side and does see her as the problem. She even confronted Ryoga about this his response was ironically pretty much word for word his situation with T-Ranma.
--> '''Raven''': Ryouga ... how is it that you can get along with Ranma so well?
--> '''Ryoga''': Wait, what - who said I did? Wait a second ... I thought you wanted to talk about Jinx?
--> '''Raven''': I do. I mean, you've made it clear that you want her on our team ... but Jinx and I get along worse than cats and birds. How do you expect us to work with her when she verbally attacks us any chance she gets?
--> '''Ryoga:''' Look, I'm not asking you to be her friend, or anything. I just ... I mean, why is it so hard for you all to accept her?
--> '''Raven''': Umm, see previous statement? If her tongue were any more acidic, her spit would be lethal to all life on the planet."
--> '''Ryoga''': Hey now, cut that out. She might have a sharp tongue, but I haven't exactly heard anyone try to take the high road when talking back to her. Hell, she told me about her conversation with Ranma. He threatened to 'beat her up' over some insults? Insults that he provoked in standard insensitive Ranma fashion? Man, he's so lucky that I talked to Jinx after I spoke to him.
--> '''Raven''': Well ... why should we all be held to a different standard than her?
** It should be noted as stated above Raven doesn’t take Jinx’s side and does see her as the problem. She even confronted Ryoga about this his response was ironically pretty much word for word his situation with T-Ranma.
--> '''Raven''': Ryouga ... how is it that you can get along with Ranma so well?
--> '''Ryoga''': Wait, what - who said I did? Wait a second ... I thought you wanted to talk about Jinx?
--> '''Raven''': I do. I mean, you've made it clear that you want her on our team ... but Jinx and I get along worse than cats and birds. How do you expect us to work with her when she verbally attacks us any chance she gets?
--> '''Ryoga:''' Look, I'm not asking you to be her friend, or anything. I just ... I mean, why is it so hard for you all to accept her?
--> '''Raven''': Umm, see previous statement? If her tongue were any more acidic, her spit would be lethal to all life on the planet."
--> '''Ryoga''': Hey now, cut that out. She might have a sharp tongue, but I haven't exactly heard anyone try to take the high road when talking back to her. Hell, she told me about her conversation with Ranma. He threatened to 'beat her up' over some insults? Insults that he provoked in standard insensitive Ranma fashion? Man, he's so lucky that I talked to Jinx after I spoke to him.
--> '''Raven''': Well ... why should we all be held to a different standard than her?
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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: Jinx’s Jinx's various sue traits makes T-Ryoga a part of this trope. The major example is her status as the friend nobody likes. Jinx’s Jinx's is incredibly antagonistic with nearly everyone et Ryoga completely ignores this believing that everyone is just out to get her. It gets much worse in the X-COM universe where not only does this attitude put the Titan’s Titan's lives in danger (i.e if X-COM refuses to work with them, or punish them for Jinx’s Jinx's actions) especially due to her its all about me mentality. the soldiers there can barely give Jinx more more than professional courtesy while she doesn’t doesn't even bother with that, but still Ryoga takes her side.
** It should be noted as stated above Ravendoesn’t doesn't take Jinx’s Jinx's side and does see her as the problem. She even confronted Ryoga about this his response was ironically pretty much word for word his situation with T-Ranma.
--> '''Raven''': Ryouga ... --->'''Raven:''' Ryoga... how is it that you can get along with Ranma so well?
--> '''Ryoga''':well?\\
'''Ryoga:''' Wait, what - who said I did? Wait a second ... I thought you wanted to talk aboutJinx?
--> '''Raven''':Jinx?\\
'''Raven:''' I do. I mean, you've made it clear that you want her on ourteam ...team... but Jinx and I get along worse than cats and birds. How do you expect us to work with her when she verbally attacks us any chance she gets?
-->gets?\\
'''Ryoga:''' Look, I'm not asking you to be her friend, or anything. I just ... I mean, why is it so hard for you all to accepther?
--> '''Raven''':her?\\
'''Raven:''' Umm, see previous statement? If her tongue were any more acidic, her spit would be lethal to all life on the planet."
--> '''Ryoga''':\\
'''Ryoga:''' Hey now, cut that out. She might have a sharp tongue, but I haven't exactly heard anyone try to take the high road when talking back to her. Hell, she told me about her conversation with Ranma. He threatened to 'beat her up' over some insults? Insults that he provoked in standard insensitive Ranma fashion? Man, he's so lucky that I talked to Jinx after I spoke tohim.
--> '''Raven''':him.\\
'''Raven:''' Well ... why should we all be held to a different standard than her?
** It should be noted as stated above Raven
--> '''Ryoga''':
'''Ryoga:''' Wait, what - who said I did? Wait a second ... I thought you wanted to talk about
--> '''Raven''':
'''Raven:''' I do. I mean, you've made it clear that you want her on our
-->
'''Ryoga:''' Look, I'm not asking you to be her friend, or anything. I just ... I mean, why is it so hard for you all to accept
--> '''Raven''':
'''Raven:''' Umm, see previous statement? If her tongue were any more acidic, her spit would be lethal to all life on the planet.
--> '''Ryoga''':
'''Ryoga:''' Hey now, cut that out. She might have a sharp tongue, but I haven't exactly heard anyone try to take the high road when talking back to her. Hell, she told me about her conversation with Ranma. He threatened to 'beat her up' over some insults? Insults that he provoked in standard insensitive Ranma fashion? Man, he's so lucky that I talked to Jinx after I spoke to
--> '''Raven''':
'''Raven:''' Well ... why should we all be held to a different standard than her?
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** Jinx’s its all about me mentality is also treated as endearing ignoring the fact that it regularly endangers the lives of everyone around her as well as herself. Its repeatedly mentioned how she helped Ryoga and Terra in Atlantis. But she also put their lives in danger because she was jealous of the fact terra and ryoga could synchronize their energies together so she forcefully tried to do the same.
** As for Akari while its true she saved her from the aliens she immediately ran off when she found out that Akari was dying forcing the former (who was presented as in the wrong for telling Jinx) to track her down so that they weren’t killed. Furthermore her reaction to akari’s fate worse then death is supposed to be seen as a heartwarming tearjerker. But this ignores the fact that Akari is only in that situation because Jinx paid no heed to Akari not wanting an Enthereal brain and despite repeated warnings that it was a bad idea gave it to her anyway. So basically Jinx is allowed to endanger peoples likes, and treat everyone like crap because she occasionally does good things despite a lot of them being done for entirely selfish and self serving reasons.
** T-Ryoga is a truly bad example of this in addition to Jinx nearly every single argument he makes is either incredibly hypocritical or an out right lie. Yet he is always presented as right. It’s reach the point where passive aggressive combat has become his default mode.
** It’s easier to say that the Titan’s as a hole follow this trope as they see nothing wrong with allowing Jinx and Ryoga to stay coerced into loving each other.
** As for Akari while its true she saved her from the aliens she immediately ran off when she found out that Akari was dying forcing the former (who was presented as in the wrong for telling Jinx) to track her down so that they weren’t killed. Furthermore her reaction to akari’s fate worse then death is supposed to be seen as a heartwarming tearjerker. But this ignores the fact that Akari is only in that situation because Jinx paid no heed to Akari not wanting an Enthereal brain and despite repeated warnings that it was a bad idea gave it to her anyway. So basically Jinx is allowed to endanger peoples likes, and treat everyone like crap because she occasionally does good things despite a lot of them being done for entirely selfish and self serving reasons.
** T-Ryoga is a truly bad example of this in addition to Jinx nearly every single argument he makes is either incredibly hypocritical or an out right lie. Yet he is always presented as right. It’s reach the point where passive aggressive combat has become his default mode.
** It’s easier to say that the Titan’s as a hole follow this trope as they see nothing wrong with allowing Jinx and Ryoga to stay coerced into loving each other.
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** Jinx’s Jinx's its all about me mentality is also treated as endearing ignoring the fact that it regularly endangers the lives of everyone around her as well as herself. Its repeatedly mentioned how she helped Ryoga and Terra in Atlantis. But she also put their lives in danger because she was jealous of the fact terra and ryoga could synchronize their energies together so she forcefully tried to do the same.
same.
** As for Akari while its true she saved her from the aliens she immediately ran off when she found out that Akari was dying forcing the former (who was presented as in the wrong for telling Jinx) to track her down so that theyweren’t weren't killed. Furthermore her reaction to akari’s akari's fate worse then death is supposed to be seen as a heartwarming tearjerker. But this ignores the fact that Akari is only in that situation because Jinx paid no heed to Akari not wanting an Enthereal brain and despite repeated warnings that it was a bad idea gave it to her anyway. So basically Jinx is allowed to endanger peoples likes, and treat everyone like crap because she occasionally does good things despite a lot of them being done for entirely selfish and self serving reasons.
reasons.
** T-Ryoga is a truly bad example of this in addition to Jinx nearly every single argument he makes is either incredibly hypocritical or an out right lie. Yet he is always presented as right.It’s It's reach the point where passive aggressive combat has become his default mode.
**It’s It's easier to say that the Titan’s Titan's as a hole follow this trope as they see nothing wrong with allowing Jinx and Ryoga to stay coerced into loving each other. other.
** As for Akari while its true she saved her from the aliens she immediately ran off when she found out that Akari was dying forcing the former (who was presented as in the wrong for telling Jinx) to track her down so that they
** T-Ryoga is a truly bad example of this in addition to Jinx nearly every single argument he makes is either incredibly hypocritical or an out right lie. Yet he is always presented as right.
**
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* RapePortrayedAsRedemption: Since Jinx’s HeelFaceTurn was mainly due to her love for Ryoga the revelation that she was manipulated into loving him as well gives the disturbing implication of this.
* RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil: One of the many evils done to Starfire by The Gordanian
* RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil: One of the many evils done to Starfire by The Gordanian
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* RapePortrayedAsRedemption: Since Jinx’s Jinx's HeelFaceTurn was mainly due to her love for Ryoga the revelation that she was manipulated into loving him as well gives the disturbing implication of this.
* RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil: One of the many evils done to Starfire by TheGordanian Gordanian
* RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil: One of the many evils done to Starfire by The
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** X-COM as a whole are this as they are far more willing to put up with the actions of the Titan’s then vise versa despite it being repeatedly shown that it’s starting to wear thin with soldier’s complaining about the unprofessionalism of Yankee squad and the fact that their commander just lets them run free.
*** Ranma deserves special mention as he try’s to maintain a professional atmosphere and not let his own opinions color how he acted putting his foot down when needed and backing off when not. For example as much as he personally disagreed with the Titan’s actions he aided the Yankee Squad in capturing the Ethereal even letting T-Ryoga take command. As well as keep Ukyo and Shampoo from fighting with them.
*** Ranma deserves special mention as he try’s to maintain a professional atmosphere and not let his own opinions color how he acted putting his foot down when needed and backing off when not. For example as much as he personally disagreed with the Titan’s actions he aided the Yankee Squad in capturing the Ethereal even letting T-Ryoga take command. As well as keep Ukyo and Shampoo from fighting with them.
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** X-COM as a whole are this as they are far more willing to put up with the actions of the Titan’s Titan's then vise versa despite it being repeatedly shown that it’s it's starting to wear thin with soldier’s soldier's complaining about the unprofessionalism of Yankee squad and the fact that their commander just lets them run free.
*** Ranma deserves special mention as hetry’s try's to maintain a professional atmosphere and not let his own opinions color how he acted putting his foot down when needed and backing off when not. For example as much as he personally disagreed with the Titan’s Titan's actions he aided the Yankee Squad in capturing the Ethereal even letting T-Ryoga take command. As well as keep Ukyo and Shampoo from fighting with them.
*** Ranma deserves special mention as he
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** Ryouga has arguably been on one since joining the Titans.
* RefugeInAudacity: Ryoga using one of the Saotome School of Underhanded Techniques to distract Ukyo.
--> '''Ryoga''': Now Ranma, while she's distracted!
** The corpse ring seems to make ukyo susceptible to this trope making it AwesomeButImpractical
** Nabiki using an impromptu makeout session with Raven to distract Ukyo.
* RelationshipResetButton: Ryouga ended up being paired off with [[spoiler:Jinx, due to a combination of growing closer with Jinx and feeling too guilty to start a serious relationship with Raven. Then Raven went nuts, nearly {{Brainwashed}} him into being her [[PropertyOfLove love slave]], and erased Jinx's attraction to Ryouga. Now in Ryouga's eyes, he and Raven are "even", and Jinx isn't attracted to him anymore. Congratulations, Raven,]] you've just set everyone [[spoiler: except Starfire]] back to square one.
* RefugeInAudacity: Ryoga using one of the Saotome School of Underhanded Techniques to distract Ukyo.
--> '''Ryoga''': Now Ranma, while she's distracted!
** The corpse ring seems to make ukyo susceptible to this trope making it AwesomeButImpractical
** Nabiki using an impromptu makeout session with Raven to distract Ukyo.
* RelationshipResetButton: Ryouga ended up being paired off with [[spoiler:Jinx, due to a combination of growing closer with Jinx and feeling too guilty to start a serious relationship with Raven. Then Raven went nuts, nearly {{Brainwashed}} him into being her [[PropertyOfLove love slave]], and erased Jinx's attraction to Ryouga. Now in Ryouga's eyes, he and Raven are "even", and Jinx isn't attracted to him anymore. Congratulations, Raven,]] you've just set everyone [[spoiler: except Starfire]] back to square one.
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** Ryouga Ryoga has arguably been on one since joining the Titans.
*RefugeInAudacity: RefugeInAudacity:
** Ryoga using one of the Saotome School of Underhanded Techniques to distract Ukyo.
--> '''Ryoga''': --->'''Ryoga:''' Now Ranma, while she's distracted!
** The corpse ring seems to make ukyo susceptible to thistrope trope, making it AwesomeButImpractical
AwesomeButImpractical.
** Nabiki using an impromptu makeout session with Raven to distractUkyo.
Ukyo.
* RelationshipResetButton:Ryouga Ryoga ended up being paired off with [[spoiler:Jinx, due to a combination of growing closer with Jinx and feeling too guilty to start a serious relationship with Raven. Then Raven went nuts, nearly {{Brainwashed}} him into being her [[PropertyOfLove love slave]], and erased Jinx's attraction to Ryouga. Ryoga. Now in Ryouga's Ryoga's eyes, he and Raven are "even", and Jinx isn't attracted to him anymore. Congratulations, Raven,]] you've just set everyone [[spoiler: except Starfire]] back to square one.
*
** Ryoga using one of the Saotome School of Underhanded Techniques to distract Ukyo.
** The corpse ring seems to make ukyo susceptible to this
** Nabiki using an impromptu makeout session with Raven to distract
* RelationshipResetButton:
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* RequiredSecondaryPowers: While talented martial artist are superhumanly fast, with reflexes so far above baseline it was borderline precognition. However unless there was actual danger it is considered useless as they don’t have actual bullet time but more a form of tunnel vision.
* {{Retcon}}: Earlier in the fic Raven mentioned that Ranma told her about the Koi Rod of Love. However when Nabiki questioned the Titan’s about the similarities about the two Ryoga’s Raven had no knowledge of the rod.
* RevengeBeforeReason: After they captured her Herb went to her cell and opened it telling Starfire that attacking him would prove that they were right about her and that she would lose all hope reuniting with her friends. Starfire didn’t even hesitate.
* {{Retcon}}: Earlier in the fic Raven mentioned that Ranma told her about the Koi Rod of Love. However when Nabiki questioned the Titan’s about the similarities about the two Ryoga’s Raven had no knowledge of the rod.
* RevengeBeforeReason: After they captured her Herb went to her cell and opened it telling Starfire that attacking him would prove that they were right about her and that she would lose all hope reuniting with her friends. Starfire didn’t even hesitate.
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* RequiredSecondaryPowers: While talented martial artist are superhumanly fast, with reflexes so far above baseline it was borderline precognition. However unless there was actual danger it is considered useless as they don’t don't have actual bullet time but more a form of tunnel vision.
* {{Retcon}}: Earlier in the fic Raven mentioned that Ranma told her about the Koi Rod of Love. However when Nabiki questioned theTitan’s Titan's about the similarities about the two Ryoga’s Ryoga's Raven had no knowledge of the rod.
rod.
* RevengeBeforeReason: After they captured her Herb went to her cell and opened it telling Starfire that attacking him would prove that they were right about her and that she would lose all hope reuniting with her friends. Starfiredidn’t didn't even hesitate.
* {{Retcon}}: Earlier in the fic Raven mentioned that Ranma told her about the Koi Rod of Love. However when Nabiki questioned the
* RevengeBeforeReason: After they captured her Herb went to her cell and opened it telling Starfire that attacking him would prove that they were right about her and that she would lose all hope reuniting with her friends. Starfire
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* SanityHasAdvantages: While Trespasser was able to control most of the crew using Telepathy Cyborg’s cyberbrain has numerous protection against mind control. Unfortunately deactivating the human side of his brain turned him into a StrawVulcan making him just as easy to manipulate.
** Made all the more obvious due to the fact that despite knowing that everyone was being manipulated he did nothing to stop it.
** Made all the more obvious due to the fact that despite knowing that everyone was being manipulated he did nothing to stop it.
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* SanityHasAdvantages: While Trespasser was able to control most of the crew using Telepathy Cyborg’s Cyborg's cyberbrain has numerous protection against mind control. Unfortunately deactivating the human side of his brain turned him into a StrawVulcan making him just as easy to manipulate.
** Made all the more obvious due to the fact that despite knowing that everyone was being manipulated he did nothing to stop it.
** Made all the more obvious due to the fact that despite knowing that everyone was being manipulated he did nothing to stop it.
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* ScrewTheRulesIHaveSupernaturalPowers: Played with due to their BlackAndWhiteMorality the Titan’s don’t adapt well to the decidedly grey X-COM universe. This has caused them to take on a I’ll do what’s right and damn the consequences mentality. Unfortunately not only are they usually not the ones who face the consequences but what may be considered right in the DC Universe isn’t in the necessarily considered right in the X-COM universe.
** It is interesting to note that Cyborg was the only one who realized he couldn’t act this way upon intering the X-COM universe.
** Played straight given the fact that no one considers the fact that Ryoga and Jinx were mentally coerced into loving each other wrong.
** It is interesting to note that Cyborg was the only one who realized he couldn’t act this way upon intering the X-COM universe.
** Played straight given the fact that no one considers the fact that Ryoga and Jinx were mentally coerced into loving each other wrong.
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* ScrewTheRulesIHaveSupernaturalPowers: Played with due to their BlackAndWhiteMorality the Titan’s don’t Titan's don't adapt well to the decidedly grey X-COM universe. This has caused them to take on a I’ll I'll do what’s what's right and damn the consequences mentality. Unfortunately not only are they usually not the ones who face the consequences but what may be considered right in the DC Universe isn’t isn't in the necessarily considered right in the X-COM universe.
** It is interesting to note that Cyborg was the only one who realized hecouldn’t couldn't act this way upon intering the X-COM universe.
** Played straight given the fact that no one considers the fact that Ryoga and Jinx were mentally coerced into loving each other wrong.
** It is interesting to note that Cyborg was the only one who realized he
** Played straight given the fact that no one considers the fact that Ryoga and Jinx were mentally coerced into loving each other wrong.
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* ShipperOnDeck: X-COM Ryouga ships Titans Ryouga/Raven.
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* ShipperOnDeck: X-COM Ryouga Ryoga ships Titans Ryouga/Raven.Ryoga/Raven.
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** WordOfGod states that Cap’n is more in the Raven camp than the Jinx one while Lathis is vise versa.
* TheShrink: Psychiatrists are repeatedly mentioned throughout the story, and apparently all of X-COM regularly sees them. We even get to meet one in the form of [[Series/DoctorPhil Dr. Phillips]].
* ShockAndAwe: Kuno’s Tenchi Raimei technique
* TheShrink: Psychiatrists are repeatedly mentioned throughout the story, and apparently all of X-COM regularly sees them. We even get to meet one in the form of [[Series/DoctorPhil Dr. Phillips]].
* ShockAndAwe: Kuno’s Tenchi Raimei technique
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** WordOfGod states that Cap’n Cap'n is more in the Raven camp than the Jinx one while Lathis is vise versa.
* TheShrink: Psychiatrists are repeatedly mentioned throughout the story, and apparently all of X-COM regularly sees them. We even get to meet one in the form of[[Series/DoctorPhil [[Series/DrPhil Dr. Phillips]].
* ShockAndAwe:Kuno’s Kuno's Tenchi Raimei technique technique
* TheShrink: Psychiatrists are repeatedly mentioned throughout the story, and apparently all of X-COM regularly sees them. We even get to meet one in the form of
* ShockAndAwe:
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** Jinx comparing Cyborg’s dimensional portal to a {{Stargate}}
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** Jinx comparing Cyborg’s Cyborg's dimensional portal to a {{Stargate}} {{Stargate}}
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** Cyborg’s dimensional portal sound very similar to the one seen in The justice society episode
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** Cyborg’s Cyborg's dimensional portal sound very similar to the one seen in The justice society episode
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--> '''Doctor Larsen''': Hi. My name is Doctor Larsen, also known as the incredible Animal-Vegetable-Mineral Man. You might remember me from such classic informative video pictures as 'Mad Science: Fact from Fiction' and 'Radiation: Friend of the Modern Age!'
** Starfire and Ryoga debating ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' vs ''Manga/{{Claymore}}''
** Starfire and Ryoga debating ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' vs ''Manga/{{Claymore}}''
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** Starfire and Ryoga debating ''Manga/{{Berserk}}''
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** Forced to steel cloths as they were running from Reavers Jinx was worried that they’d make her look fat.
** Thoughout the story T-Ryoga has been shown to be far more worried about showing up his older counterpart then healthy especially when he should be worried about the health of his squad such as when they’re being held back by enemy fire.
** Thoughout the story T-Ryoga has been shown to be far more worried about showing up his older counterpart then healthy especially when he should be worried about the health of his squad such as when they’re being held back by enemy fire.
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** Forced to steel cloths as they were running from Reavers Jinx was worried that they’d they'd make her look fat.
fat.
** Thoughout the story T-Ryoga has been shown to be far more worried about showing up his older counterpart then healthy especially when he should be worried about the health of his squad such as whenthey’re they're being held back by enemy fire. fire.
** Thoughout the story T-Ryoga has been shown to be far more worried about showing up his older counterpart then healthy especially when he should be worried about the health of his squad such as when
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* SmugSuper: It’s been shown that a few villains see the Titan’s as this with Slade calling the Titan Tower an obnoxious, gigantic T-shaped monstrosity.
** The Titan’s as a hole come across as this with the fact that they constantly compare the Visitor’s to the aliens of the DCAU while looking down on the on X-COM for not being able to curb stomp them.
** The Titan’s as a hole come across as this with the fact that they constantly compare the Visitor’s to the aliens of the DCAU while looking down on the on X-COM for not being able to curb stomp them.
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* SmugSuper: It’s It's been shown that a few villains see the Titan’s Titan's as this with Slade calling the Titan Tower an obnoxious, gigantic T-shaped monstrosity.
monstrosity.
** TheTitan’s Titan's as a hole come across as this with the fact that they constantly compare the Visitor’s Visitor's to the aliens of the DCAU while looking down on the on X-COM for not being able to curb stomp them.
** The
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* SpannerInTheWorks: Jinx’s power’s deactivated Trencards from the alien hive mind giving them their humanity back.
** Averted however since the Titan’s turned around and reconnected Akari to the mind.
** Nabiki’s treachery forced a stalemate which would allow Trespasser to complete his evil plan. However Reava isn’t affected by Trespasser's force field allowing her to walk right through it.
* SpoiledBrat: T-Ryoga comes across as this a lot in the fic. However it really comes to a head when he talks to his parents. For example upon finding out the martial arts and survival skills his father has taught him his whole life to survive the Hibiki curse weren’t just going to let him coast through life he ended up CallingTheOldManOut.
** Averted however since the Titan’s turned around and reconnected Akari to the mind.
** Nabiki’s treachery forced a stalemate which would allow Trespasser to complete his evil plan. However Reava isn’t affected by Trespasser's force field allowing her to walk right through it.
* SpoiledBrat: T-Ryoga comes across as this a lot in the fic. However it really comes to a head when he talks to his parents. For example upon finding out the martial arts and survival skills his father has taught him his whole life to survive the Hibiki curse weren’t just going to let him coast through life he ended up CallingTheOldManOut.
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* SpannerInTheWorks: Jinx’s power’s Jinx's power's deactivated Trencards from the alien hive mind giving them their humanity back.
** Averted however since theTitan’s Titan's turned around and reconnected Akari to the mind.
**Nabiki’s Nabiki's treachery forced a stalemate which would allow Trespasser to complete his evil plan. However Reava isn’t isn't affected by Trespasser's force field allowing her to walk right through it.
it.
* SpoiledBrat: T-Ryoga comes across as this a lot in the fic. However it really comes to a head when he talks to his parents. For example upon finding out the martial arts and survival skills his father has taught him his whole life to survive the Hibiki curseweren’t weren't just going to let him coast through life he ended up CallingTheOldManOut. CallingTheOldManOut.
** Averted however since the
**
* SpoiledBrat: T-Ryoga comes across as this a lot in the fic. However it really comes to a head when he talks to his parents. For example upon finding out the martial arts and survival skills his father has taught him his whole life to survive the Hibiki curse
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** It’s worth noting that Raven gave him a WhatTheHellHero for his callousness to his father.
** It also doesn’t help that he only refers to his them as his parents when he wants to {{Wangst}} otherwise they are either his doppelganger’s mother and father or mister and misses hibiki.
** It also doesn’t help that he only refers to his them as his parents when he wants to {{Wangst}} otherwise they are either his doppelganger’s mother and father or mister and misses hibiki.
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** It’s It's worth noting that Raven gave him a WhatTheHellHero for his callousness to his father.
** It alsodoesn’t doesn't help that he only refers to his them as his parents when he wants to {{Wangst}} otherwise they are either his doppelganger’s doppelganger's mother and father or mister and misses hibiki. hibiki.
** It also
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** Jinx is even worse due to her ItsAllAboutMe mentality. Jinx regularly gets her way, everyone takes her side, and she usually throws a temper tantrum (and attacks someone) when she doesn’t. she also doesn’t take other peoples safety, well being, or even wishes into account when she wants something.
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** Jinx is even worse due to her ItsAllAboutMe mentality. Jinx regularly gets her way, everyone takes her side, and she usually throws a temper tantrum (and attacks someone) when she doesn’t. doesn't. she also doesn’t doesn't take other peoples safety, well being, or even wishes into account when she wants something.
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** It’s been noticed that the crossover will seem to have more major effects on the X-Com characters once it’s over. Before it almost seemed like the only lasting difference would be the appearance of the Extra-Dimensional Griffon. But now, we're seeing the seeds of definite personality change in some of the major characters being planted.
** From an out of universe perspective the endgame against Saffron was entirely a Yankee show. It definitely made the other two teams seem entirely superfluous to the final result.
** From an out of universe perspective the endgame against Saffron was entirely a Yankee show. It definitely made the other two teams seem entirely superfluous to the final result.
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** It’s It's been noticed that the crossover will seem to have more major effects on the X-Com characters once it’s it's over. Before it almost seemed like the only lasting difference would be the appearance of the Extra-Dimensional Griffon. But now, we're seeing the seeds of definite personality change in some of the major characters being planted.
planted.
** From an out of universe perspective the endgame against Saffron was entirely a Yankee show. It definitely made the other two teams seem entirely superfluous to the final result.
** From an out of universe perspective the endgame against Saffron was entirely a Yankee show. It definitely made the other two teams seem entirely superfluous to the final result.
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* StaticStunGun: The T-Brella has a shock feature in it. Although the one time it was used, it just pissed X-COM Ryouga off.
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* StaticStunGun: The T-Brella has a shock feature in it. Although the one time it was used, it just pissed X-COM Ryouga Ryoga off.
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* SuperJerkassery: While Cyborg was generally surprised at how much more competent the cops of the X-COM universe seemed he took glee in the fact that they didn’t actually have any way of dealing with him before finally unleashing holy hell on them.
** He also contemplated the fact that since he wasn’t in his world and the police most likely had nothing that could help him there was no reason he had to listen to them.
** He also contemplated the fact that since he wasn’t in his world and the police most likely had nothing that could help him there was no reason he had to listen to them.
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* SuperJerkassery: While Cyborg was generally surprised at how much more competent the cops of the X-COM universe seemed he took glee in the fact that they didn’t didn't actually have any way of dealing with him before finally unleashing holy hell on them.
** He also contemplated the fact that since hewasn’t wasn't in his world and the police most likely had nothing that could help him there was no reason he had to listen to them. them.
** He also contemplated the fact that since he
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* SuperPowerMeltdown: Ranma worried that Titans-Ryouga was on the verge of one after [[spoiler: Jinx was [[{{Deprogramming}} deprogrammed]] [[RelationshipResetButton out of love with him]]]]. Considering that Titans-Ryouga was actually sparking at the time, he was probably right.
** Ryouga and Ryouga intentionally try to set one off in order to power a gigantic Hiryu Shoten Ha when fighting Saffron.
** Ryouga and Ryouga intentionally try to set one off in order to power a gigantic Hiryu Shoten Ha when fighting Saffron.
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* SuperPowerMeltdown: Ranma worried that Titans-Ryouga Titans-Ryoga was on the verge of one after [[spoiler: Jinx was [[{{Deprogramming}} deprogrammed]] [[RelationshipResetButton out of love with him]]]]. Considering that Titans-Ryouga Titans-Ryoga was actually sparking at the time, he was probably right.
**Ryouga Ryoga and Ryouga Ryoga intentionally try to set one off in order to power a gigantic Hiryu Shoten Ha when fighting Saffron.
**
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** Copying the martial artists and the abilities has been something both X-COM and the aliens have been researching. The former had gone about this from a more traditional standpoint: Research into 'telekinetic self augmentation' (Pearson's research), Study and replication of battle auras, Tissue structure, genetics, etc. Plus research on the part of the MA's themselves (Ryouga's Project Kataphract was intended to do just this)
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** Copying the martial artists and the abilities has been something both X-COM and the aliens have been researching. The former had gone about this from a more traditional standpoint: Research into 'telekinetic self augmentation' (Pearson's research), Study and replication of battle auras, Tissue structure, genetics, etc. Plus research on the part of the MA's themselves (Ryouga's (Ryoga's Project Kataphract was intended to do just this)
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* SuperStrength: Starfire is handled as a little stronger than Ryouga, and Cyborg as a little stronger than Lime.
* SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: After Ranma reminded him that he couldn’t be smelling ash in a hermetically sealed suit Konatsu quickly back tract by saying he didn’t smell anything anymore. He then went on to claim it must be a malfunction with the suit's filtration system.
* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: The Titan’s were repeatedly warned that putting Etheral DNA back into Akari was a bad idea. Even by Akari herself he wished to die as herself. Yet they did it anyway is it any surprise that it went bad.
** It should be noted that a lot of Jinx’s actions are motivated by ItsAllAboutMe (which seems to be a side effect of being coerced into loving Ryoga) which makes the consequences this trope. Back in Atlantis Jinx forcibly synchronized with Ryoga and Terra because she was jealous of the fact that they were so in synch with each other. obviously introducing this new unknown factor in such an intricate technique endangered all three of their lives. She only went to get the Ethereal DNA because she didn’t care about Akari’s wishes.
* SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: After Ranma reminded him that he couldn’t be smelling ash in a hermetically sealed suit Konatsu quickly back tract by saying he didn’t smell anything anymore. He then went on to claim it must be a malfunction with the suit's filtration system.
* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: The Titan’s were repeatedly warned that putting Etheral DNA back into Akari was a bad idea. Even by Akari herself he wished to die as herself. Yet they did it anyway is it any surprise that it went bad.
** It should be noted that a lot of Jinx’s actions are motivated by ItsAllAboutMe (which seems to be a side effect of being coerced into loving Ryoga) which makes the consequences this trope. Back in Atlantis Jinx forcibly synchronized with Ryoga and Terra because she was jealous of the fact that they were so in synch with each other. obviously introducing this new unknown factor in such an intricate technique endangered all three of their lives. She only went to get the Ethereal DNA because she didn’t care about Akari’s wishes.
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* SuperStrength: Starfire is handled as a little stronger than Ryouga, Ryoga, and Cyborg as a little stronger than Lime.
* SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: After Ranma reminded him that hecouldn’t couldn't be smelling ash in a hermetically sealed suit Konatsu quickly back tract by saying he didn’t didn't smell anything anymore. He then went on to claim it must be a malfunction with the suit's filtration system.
* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: TheTitan’s Titan's were repeatedly warned that putting Etheral DNA back into Akari was a bad idea. Even by Akari herself he wished to die as herself. Yet they did it anyway is it any surprise that it went bad.
** It should be noted that a lot ofJinx’s Jinx's actions are motivated by ItsAllAboutMe (which seems to be a side effect of being coerced into loving Ryoga) which makes the consequences this trope. Back in Atlantis Jinx forcibly synchronized with Ryoga and Terra because she was jealous of the fact that they were so in synch with each other. obviously introducing this new unknown factor in such an intricate technique endangered all three of their lives. She only went to get the Ethereal DNA because she didn’t didn't care about Akari’s Akari's wishes.
* SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: After Ranma reminded him that he
* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: The
** It should be noted that a lot of
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*** Raven’s powers are not exclusively mental, but spiritual an extension of her entire being, mind, body and soul. By focusing exclusively on her psyche she lost touch with her with her physical being.
** Despite his immense power the millennia he spent trapped in the hulk dimension really took a toll on Tresspasser
** Despite his immense power the millennia he spent trapped in the hulk dimension really took a toll on Tresspasser
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*** Raven’s Raven's powers are not exclusively mental, but spiritual an extension of her entire being, mind, body and soul. By focusing exclusively on her psyche she lost touch with her with her physical being.
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** Despite his immense power the millennia he spent trapped in the hulk dimension really took a toll onTresspasser Tresspasser
** Despite his immense power the millennia he spent trapped in the hulk dimension really took a toll on
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** A few readers were surprised that X-COM were able to subdue the Titan’s so easily as X-COM is exactly the kind of organization that pretty much every superhero team since... ever, stomp in their spare time. They might have more noble goals then most, but comics are filled to the brim with orginizations that are almost identical in character and nature, if not purpose. Forgetting that those organizations are keep sending black suited norms with an M-16 and expect them to face down Wolverines and Spiderman. NOT coordinated battle hardened, psionic, martial artist.
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** A few readers were surprised that X-COM were able to subdue the Titan’s Titan's so easily as X-COM is exactly the kind of organization that pretty much every superhero team since... ever, stomp in their spare time. They might have more noble goals then most, but comics are filled to the brim with orginizations that are almost identical in character and nature, if not purpose. Forgetting that those organizations are keep sending black suited norms with an M-16 and expect them to face down Wolverines and Spiderman. NOT coordinated battle hardened, psionic, martial artist.
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* TakeThat: One was done to the Franchise/SpiderMan and X-Men movies when Akari and Jinx were escaping.
--> '''Jinx''': X-Men? Sound kinda silly to me. I'm not really into weird, Indy films, anyway.
--> '''Jinx''': X-Men? Sound kinda silly to me. I'm not really into weird, Indy films, anyway.
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* TakeThat: TakeThat:
** One was done to the Franchise/SpiderMan and X-Men movies when Akari and Jinx wereescaping.
--> '''Jinx''':escaping.
---> '''Jinx:''' X-Men? Sound kinda silly to me. I'm not really into weird, Indy films, anyway.
** One was done to the Franchise/SpiderMan and X-Men movies when Akari and Jinx were
--> '''Jinx''':
---> '''Jinx:''' X-Men? Sound kinda silly to me. I'm not really into weird, Indy films, anyway.
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--> '''Akari''': Super-Man? Are you serious? Are those supposed to be real people? Don't joke around with me; you're acting like this is... is some manga or anime or something!
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--> '''Kuno''': Sharp spoken minx though she might be, Jinx is our friend and comrade. I'll not allow you to harm her!
* ThePowerOfLove: What allows Ryouga to break through [[spoiler: Raven's]] brainwashing in order to save Jinx.
* ThenLetMeBeEvil: Early on, Titans Ryouga expresses concern that crappy treatment by the Titans is going to undo Jinx's HeelFaceTurn.
* ThickerThanWater: Starfire's reasoning behind why she [[spoiler: betrays Tresspasser and Ukyou in favor of Ryouga.]] Although Starfire and Ryouga are not actually related.
* ThePowerOfLove: What allows Ryouga to break through [[spoiler: Raven's]] brainwashing in order to save Jinx.
* ThenLetMeBeEvil: Early on, Titans Ryouga expresses concern that crappy treatment by the Titans is going to undo Jinx's HeelFaceTurn.
* ThickerThanWater: Starfire's reasoning behind why she [[spoiler: betrays Tresspasser and Ukyou in favor of Ryouga.]] Although Starfire and Ryouga are not actually related.
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* ThePowerOfLove: What allows
* ThenLetMeBeEvil: Early on, Titans
* ThickerThanWater: Starfire's reasoning behind why she [[spoiler: betrays Tresspasser and Ukyou in favor of
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* ThrillSeeker: Nabiki has shown signs of being this from time to time. For example when tasked with watching Raven after she had managed to panic X-Mousse and push X-Ryouga and X-Kuno in a battle. She was thrilled at the thought that she could fly off the handle and go on a rampage, with a certain Tendo sister in immediate proximity.
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* ThrillSeeker: Nabiki has shown signs of being this from time to time. For example when tasked with watching Raven after she had managed to panic X-Mousse and push X-Ryouga X-Ryoga and X-Kuno in a battle. She was thrilled at the thought that she could fly off the handle and go on a rampage, with a certain Tendo sister in immediate proximity.
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* TimeToUnlockMoreTruePotential: X-COM Ryouga developed a superior ki circulation method. Titans Ryouga, Starfire, and Jinx all promptly learn said method.
* TooDumbToLive: Despite knowing how dangerous it is T-Ryoga has been absorbing elemental earth ki into his body for quite sometime.
* TooDumbToLive: Despite knowing how dangerous it is T-Ryoga has been absorbing elemental earth ki into his body for quite sometime.
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* TimeToUnlockMoreTruePotential: X-COM Ryouga Ryoga developed a superior ki circulation method. Titans Ryouga, Ryoga, Starfire, and Jinx all promptly learn said method.
*TooDumbToLive: TooDumbToLive:
** Despite knowing how dangerous itis is, T-Ryoga has been absorbing elemental earth ki into his body for quite sometime. sometime.
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** Despite knowing how dangerous it
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---> '''Starfire''': Was that really necessary, Jinx? You are most fortuitous that I have excellent reflexes.
** One of the first thing she did after freeing Akari from the Mind was loudly alert the visitors what was going on by destroying a wall.
** Reava allowing Ixthultu to manipulate her into eating him.
* TouchOfDeath: X-COM Ryouga's "Killing Point" technique.
** One of the first thing she did after freeing Akari from the Mind was loudly alert the visitors what was going on by destroying a wall.
** Reava allowing Ixthultu to manipulate her into eating him.
* TouchOfDeath: X-COM Ryouga's "Killing Point" technique.
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** One of the first thing she did after freeing Akari from the Mind was loudly alert the visitors what was going on by destroying a
** Reava allowing Ixthultu to manipulate her into eating
* TouchOfDeath: X-COM
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* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: Trenchard [[spoiler: Akari]] turns against the aliens after Jinx severs her connection to the Mind.
** Afterwards, the very Reapers she raised are used to hunt her down.
*** Which is later [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]].
---> '''Trenchard [[spoiler: Akari]]''': "Onishi was the prize of his litter. A bred champion. He also tried to bite me in half. Even a champion has no right to turn on his creator."
---> '''Jinx''': "Oh, man, if I had a nickel for every time I heard a mad scientist say that! I mean, it’s practically a trope or cliché or something!"
* TurnOutLikeHisFather: As shown in the Space Hulk Dimension this is Kuno’s greatest fear.
** Afterwards, the very Reapers she raised are used to hunt her down.
*** Which is later [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]].
---> '''Trenchard [[spoiler: Akari]]''': "Onishi was the prize of his litter. A bred champion. He also tried to bite me in half. Even a champion has no right to turn on his creator."
---> '''Jinx''': "Oh, man, if I had a nickel for every time I heard a mad scientist say that! I mean, it’s practically a trope or cliché or something!"
* TurnOutLikeHisFather: As shown in the Space Hulk Dimension this is Kuno’s greatest fear.
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* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: Trenchard [[spoiler: Akari]] turns against the aliens after Jinx severs her connection to the Mind.
**Mind. Afterwards, the very Reapers she raised are used to hunt her down.
***down. Which is later [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]].
---> '''Trenchard -->'''Trenchard [[spoiler: Akari]]''': "Onishi Akari]]:''' Onishi was the prize of his litter. A bred champion. He also tried to bite me in half. Even a champion has no right to turn on his creator."
---> '''Jinx''': "Oh,\\
'''Jinx:''' Oh, man, if I had a nickel for every time I heard a mad scientist say that! I mean,it’s it's practically a trope or cliché or something!"
something!
* TurnOutLikeHisFather: As shown in the Space Hulk Dimension this isKuno’s Kuno's greatest fear.
**
***
---> '''Jinx''': "Oh,
'''Jinx:''' Oh, man, if I had a nickel for every time I heard a mad scientist say that! I mean,
* TurnOutLikeHisFather: As shown in the Space Hulk Dimension this is
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* UngratefulBastard: Starfire after being bit by a Nth Metal parasite Ryu sucked the poison out despite not knowing if this would poison him due to her alien blood. After making sure she was okay he went to capture the parasite giving Starfire a medkit so that she could bandage her hand. However because he didn’t assist her in bandaging her hand Starfire considered him a complete monster and manipulative bastard.
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* UngratefulBastard: Starfire after being bit by a Nth Metal parasite Ryu sucked the poison out despite not knowing if this would poison him due to her alien blood. After making sure she was okay he went to capture the parasite giving Starfire a medkit so that she could bandage her hand. However because he didn’t didn't assist her in bandaging her hand Starfire considered him a complete monster and manipulative bastard. bastard.
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** However X-COM aren’t totally immune when Raven saved everyone after they were hit with a warp bubble Ukyo called her out for allowing it to happen in the first place.
** Raven due to evolving into a SmallNameBigEgo she feels that X-COM sees the Titans as indispensable so in her own words as much as X-COM has done for the Titan’s since their priorities are not the same as the Titan’s. causing Raven to purposefully withhold information from X-Ryoga because she though he would intentionally sabotage her efforts to get home.
** Raven due to evolving into a SmallNameBigEgo she feels that X-COM sees the Titans as indispensable so in her own words as much as X-COM has done for the Titan’s since their priorities are not the same as the Titan’s. causing Raven to purposefully withhold information from X-Ryoga because she though he would intentionally sabotage her efforts to get home.
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** However X-COM aren’t aren't totally immune when Raven saved everyone after they were hit with a warp bubble Ukyo called her out for allowing it to happen in the first place.
** Raven due to evolving into a SmallNameBigEgo she feels that X-COM sees the Titans as indispensable so in her own words as much as X-COM has done for theTitan’s Titan's since their priorities are not the same as the Titan’s.Titan's. causing Raven to purposefully withhold information from X-Ryoga because she though he would intentionally sabotage her efforts to get home.
** Raven due to evolving into a SmallNameBigEgo she feels that X-COM sees the Titans as indispensable so in her own words as much as X-COM has done for the
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* TheUnreveal: What ranma’s plan was to defeat slade
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* TheUnreveal: What ranma’s ranma's plan was to defeat slade
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--> '''Akari''': Maybe, But you have to fill me in on all the stuff that's going on outside!
--> '''Akari'': They're very adept thieves when it comes to technology.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: The mob that ran into the policewoman who cornered Starfire causing her to accidentally shoot her and later the soldier who panicked and open fired on Starfire
--> '''Akari'': They're very adept thieves when it comes to technology.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: The mob that ran into the policewoman who cornered Starfire causing her to accidentally shoot her and later the soldier who panicked and open fired on Starfire
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--> '''Akari'':
'''Akari:''' They're very adept thieves when it comes to
*
** The mob that ran into the policewoman who cornered Starfire causing her to accidentally shoot her and later the soldier who panicked and open fired on Starfire
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--> '''Raven''': Everyone knew of the (probably one sided) animosity between Jinx and this Ryouga. A part of Raven probably wouldn't have been too surprised to hear him say or think some of what she had herself felt, deep down: that he didn't like the pink witch, that a part of him didn't want her up and about on the ship at all. That she could just stay in the tank until the mission was over. In that moment, a jealous little spike shot up within her, angry that even this Ryouga seemed to have a soft spot for the pink haired witch. That even he liked Jinx more than her.
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* WeakButSkilled: While she doesn’t have the fancy - or flashy - ki attacks that some of her peers enjoy tossing around so much Shampoo has a high level of ki mastery
** When it comes to firing a rifle Juliet and India’s accuracy is still very good, but not exceptional. Almost all of them are in the top one third on-base, but there were many X-COM veterans who could still give them a good thumping… most notably the shell-heads in Hotel Squad, Seiran's elite Powered Armored team. None of them had the martial arts training to develop the same sort of superhuman reflexes, but they had years of experience and psionic augmentation.
** When it comes to firing a rifle Juliet and India’s accuracy is still very good, but not exceptional. Almost all of them are in the top one third on-base, but there were many X-COM veterans who could still give them a good thumping… most notably the shell-heads in Hotel Squad, Seiran's elite Powered Armored team. None of them had the martial arts training to develop the same sort of superhuman reflexes, but they had years of experience and psionic augmentation.
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* WeakButSkilled: While she doesn’t doesn't have the fancy - or flashy - ki attacks that some of her peers enjoy tossing around so much Shampoo has a high level of ki mastery
mastery
** When it comes to firing a rifle Juliet andIndia’s India's accuracy is still very good, but not exceptional. Almost all of them are in the top one third on-base, but there were many X-COM veterans who could still give them a good thumping… most notably the shell-heads in Hotel Squad, Seiran's elite Powered Armored team. None of them had the martial arts training to develop the same sort of superhuman reflexes, but they had years of experience and psionic augmentation.
** When it comes to firing a rifle Juliet and
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* WeaksauceWeakness: Ki doesn’t work in a vacuum
** Reapers have a natural sensitivity towards certain base elements, including sulfur. Akari never bothered breeding it out of them, since its part of their hunting instincts.
* WellIntentionedExtremist: Tresspasser is this. Take out Cydonia, and the aliens are gone (that group of aliens anyway). But you'll NEVER get rid of Luthor or Joker or any of the super villains in DC. It isn't even entirely the fault of the heroes and their refusal to kill, which is a red herring. The REAL cause of it is the fact that the universe conspires to keep things "entertaining." Thus killing the Joker just means he comes back as a Jokerbot or Jokerclone. There is no Cydonia to destroy to "solve" the problem, even just for 5 or 10 or 50 years. Ironically... the one thing that may have "freed" the DCAU (Trespasser's plan) with a reboot is the thing everyone fought so hard to prevent. Though Trespasser's plan was about as likely to erase the DCAU entirely as it was to "free" it.
** Maybe they can be called one and the same?
** Reapers have a natural sensitivity towards certain base elements, including sulfur. Akari never bothered breeding it out of them, since its part of their hunting instincts.
* WellIntentionedExtremist: Tresspasser is this. Take out Cydonia, and the aliens are gone (that group of aliens anyway). But you'll NEVER get rid of Luthor or Joker or any of the super villains in DC. It isn't even entirely the fault of the heroes and their refusal to kill, which is a red herring. The REAL cause of it is the fact that the universe conspires to keep things "entertaining." Thus killing the Joker just means he comes back as a Jokerbot or Jokerclone. There is no Cydonia to destroy to "solve" the problem, even just for 5 or 10 or 50 years. Ironically... the one thing that may have "freed" the DCAU (Trespasser's plan) with a reboot is the thing everyone fought so hard to prevent. Though Trespasser's plan was about as likely to erase the DCAU entirely as it was to "free" it.
** Maybe they can be called one and the same?
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* WeaksauceWeakness: Ki doesn’t doesn't work in a vacuum
** Reapers have a natural sensitivity towards certain base elements, including sulfur. Akari never bothered breeding it out of them, since its part of their huntinginstincts.
instincts.
* WellIntentionedExtremist: Tresspasser is this. Take out Cydonia, and the aliens are gone (that group of aliens anyway). But you'll NEVER get rid of Luthor or Joker or any of the super villains in DC. It isn't even entirely the fault of the heroes and their refusal to kill, which is a red herring. The REAL cause of it is the fact that the universe conspires to keep things "entertaining." Thus killing the Joker just means he comes back as a Jokerbot or Jokerclone. There is no Cydonia to destroy to "solve" the problem, even just for 5 or 10 or 50 years. Ironically... the one thing that may have "freed" the DCAU (Trespasser's plan) with a reboot is the thing everyone fought so hard to prevent. Though Trespasser's plan was about as likely to erase the DCAU entirely as it was to "free"it.
it.
** Maybe they can be called one and thesame? same?
** Reapers have a natural sensitivity towards certain base elements, including sulfur. Akari never bothered breeding it out of them, since its part of their hunting
* WellIntentionedExtremist: Tresspasser is this. Take out Cydonia, and the aliens are gone (that group of aliens anyway). But you'll NEVER get rid of Luthor or Joker or any of the super villains in DC. It isn't even entirely the fault of the heroes and their refusal to kill, which is a red herring. The REAL cause of it is the fact that the universe conspires to keep things "entertaining." Thus killing the Joker just means he comes back as a Jokerbot or Jokerclone. There is no Cydonia to destroy to "solve" the problem, even just for 5 or 10 or 50 years. Ironically... the one thing that may have "freed" the DCAU (Trespasser's plan) with a reboot is the thing everyone fought so hard to prevent. Though Trespasser's plan was about as likely to erase the DCAU entirely as it was to "free"
** Maybe they can be called one and the
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--> '''Ukyo''': I honestly don't know what I see in that guy, sometimes. I can't even think of a time when he hasn't responded to anything in the absolute most offensive manner possible! Who says 'Looks like you've got a good mouthful to me'? In a room half filled with women no less?
** Raven and ryoga’s relationship has devolved into all take and no give at least on an emotional level to the point where it just comes across like he’s using her. when they are alone he is actively flirting with her (such as joking that they can’t sleep in the same bed) but ignores her when jinx is around. He completely ignores Jinx antagonizing but calls everyone else out when they get angry. When Raven went mad with power he flat out told her he was in love with Jinx then said they can start dating after everything is over. Ryoga is either actively stringing her along or an emotional coward who takes the easy way out. Combine this with the fact that everyone blames her for the problems in their relationship you have to wonder why she puts up with him.
** Starfire as well for the exact same reason, though she mostly takes ryoga’s side of things.
** Thank’s to PlotInducedStupidity turning him into a more fanon interpretation you have to wonder how Ranma and Akane have had a RelationshipUpgrade as he comes exactly as she’s seen him as (insulting, perverted, etc) instead of how she just perceived him as.
** Raven and ryoga’s relationship has devolved into all take and no give at least on an emotional level to the point where it just comes across like he’s using her. when they are alone he is actively flirting with her (such as joking that they can’t sleep in the same bed) but ignores her when jinx is around. He completely ignores Jinx antagonizing but calls everyone else out when they get angry. When Raven went mad with power he flat out told her he was in love with Jinx then said they can start dating after everything is over. Ryoga is either actively stringing her along or an emotional coward who takes the easy way out. Combine this with the fact that everyone blames her for the problems in their relationship you have to wonder why she puts up with him.
** Starfire as well for the exact same reason, though she mostly takes ryoga’s side of things.
** Thank’s to PlotInducedStupidity turning him into a more fanon interpretation you have to wonder how Ranma and Akane have had a RelationshipUpgrade as he comes exactly as she’s seen him as (insulting, perverted, etc) instead of how she just perceived him as.
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** Raven and
** Starfire as well for the exact same reason, though she mostly takes
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* WhatYouAreInTheDark: The {Retcon} done to Ryoga and Jinx’s relationship introduces a disturbing implication about him. In ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' after seeing the effect Brother Bloods coercion had on Ryoga Jinx was devastated and went so far as to tearful beg Ranma to save him. Afterward she even pulled an IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy. Ryoga however watched Jinx’s SanitySlippage which includes SuicidalOverconfidence that repeatedly puts not only herself but others in danger and his only thought is himself. To the point that he was devastated when she was cured.
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* WhatYouAreInTheDark: The {Retcon} done to Ryoga and Jinx’s Jinx's relationship introduces a disturbing implication about him. In ''FanFic/DarkTitans'' after seeing the effect Brother Bloods coercion had on Ryoga Jinx was devastated and went so far as to tearful beg Ranma to save him. Afterward she even pulled an IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy. Ryoga however watched Jinx’s Jinx's SanitySlippage which includes SuicidalOverconfidence that repeatedly puts not only herself but others in danger and his only thought is himself. To the point that he was devastated when she was cured.
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* WhosLaughingNow: Ukyo’s WhosLaughingNow on Ryoga was a combination of being BrainwashedAndCrazy and this.
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* WhosLaughingNow: Ukyo’s Ukyo's WhosLaughingNow on Ryoga was a combination of being BrainwashedAndCrazy and this. this.
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* WithFriendsLikeThese: This fic has introduced many disturbing elements to the Titan’s friendship. For example despite knowing that both Ryoga AND Jinx were mentally coerced into loving each other no one bothered to stop them.
--> '''Ryoga''': Even worse, she had never actually loved him in the first place. It had all just been an elaborate, sick joke. And the punchline? After all was said and done, no one had bothered to tell them! Why would they, after all? Everyone sure seemed happy with the arrangement. What did it matter that some psychopath had done it to them in the first place? It didn't matter to him; hadn't mattered to her.
--> '''Ryoga''': Even worse, she had never actually loved him in the first place. It had all just been an elaborate, sick joke. And the punchline? After all was said and done, no one had bothered to tell them! Why would they, after all? Everyone sure seemed happy with the arrangement. What did it matter that some psychopath had done it to them in the first place? It didn't matter to him; hadn't mattered to her.
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* WithFriendsLikeThese: WithFriendsLikeThese:
** This fic has introduced many disturbing elements to theTitan’s Titan's friendship. For example despite knowing that both Ryoga AND Jinx were mentally coerced into loving each other no one bothered to stop them.
--> '''Ryoga''':them.
--->'''Ryoga:''' Even worse, she had never actually loved him in the first place. It had all just been an elaborate, sick joke. And the punchline? After all was said and done, no one had bothered to tell them! Why would they, after all? Everyone sure seemed happy with the arrangement. What did it matter that some psychopath had done it to them in the first place? It didn't matter to him; hadn't mattered to her.
** This fic has introduced many disturbing elements to the
--> '''Ryoga''':
--->'''Ryoga:''' Even worse, she had never actually loved him in the first place. It had all just been an elaborate, sick joke. And the punchline? After all was said and done, no one had bothered to tell them! Why would they, after all? Everyone sure seemed happy with the arrangement. What did it matter that some psychopath had done it to them in the first place? It didn't matter to him; hadn't mattered to her.
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** This is the main reason the aliens don’t regularly use DA’s in combat.
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** This is the main reason the aliens don’t don't regularly use DA’s DA's in combat.
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--> '''Raven''': Look at me, why do you only ever look at her? Why can't you see me? See how I feel about you? How can you be so blind?
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** The biggest problem with just "zapping" Akari and curing her is that it would still KILL her. Granted, she is slowly dying anyway while under a Mind Shield (just like Mutons and Ethereals, she is a 'fully realized' alien and can not survive disconnect from the Mind), but it would both put her back at square one and also make her a compromised research subject. This is compounded by the fact that Seiran is in a dispute with other UNETCO facilities over holding her in the first place (hence the compromise of Europe and Russia sending scientists over to Japan).
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** The biggest problem with just "zapping" Akari and curing her is that it would still KILL her. Granted, she is slowly dying anyway while under a Mind Shield (just like Mutons and Ethereals, she is a 'fully realized' "fully realized" alien and can not survive disconnect from the Mind), but it would both put her back at square one and also make her a compromised research subject. This is compounded by the fact that Seiran is in a dispute with other UNETCO facilities over holding her in the first place (hence the compromise of Europe and Russia sending scientists over to Japan).
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** Raven becoming a SmallNameBigEgo thought that XCOM saw the Titan’s as far more important then they actually did. Leading her to not tell India and Juliet what they were doing while on Azarath. This ended up with her becoming mad with power.
* YinYangBomb: The Titan’s were sent to the XCOM universe due to a combination of Raven’s powers and that of the Hypergriffin
* YinYangBomb: The Titan’s were sent to the XCOM universe due to a combination of Raven’s powers and that of the Hypergriffin
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** Raven becoming a SmallNameBigEgo thought that XCOM saw the Titan’s Titan's as far more important then they actually did. Leading her to not tell India and Juliet what they were doing while on Azarath. This ended up with her becoming mad with power.
* YinYangBomb: TheTitan’s Titan's were sent to the XCOM universe due to a combination of Raven’s Raven's powers and that of the Hypergriffin Hypergriffin
* YinYangBomb: The
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* YouAreWhatYouHate: Starfire hates the human less for her MindRape and more for their FantasticRacism. However as the story goes on a lot of her commits such as referring to her fellow Titan’s as the good ones come across as something Val Yor would say. Then we find out that The Tameraneans have gone through not one but four war’s similar to the War XCOM is currently fighting. All of which ended with the total genocide of their enemies.
* YouDidntAsk: The computerized Cyborg didn’t tell anyone that they had escaped the Hulk dimension and returned home until after they asked.
--> '''Jinx''': That's it! I'm with Ryu and Duck Boy, time to melt you down into-!"
* YourMindMakesItReal: When Raven removed Jinx’s implanted love, her mind wasn't able to comprehend all of the inconsistencies, so her memories are still trying to make sense of everything. To sort out the cognitive dissonance. Unfortunately, that means that not everything she remembers will be the same as how Ryoga remember them.
** This seems to be the after effects of Ranma absorbing Shandra Mal’s memories. Not only did this change the appearance of his girl form to better match Shandra’s but it also locked him in his form.
* YouDidntAsk: The computerized Cyborg didn’t tell anyone that they had escaped the Hulk dimension and returned home until after they asked.
--> '''Jinx''': That's it! I'm with Ryu and Duck Boy, time to melt you down into-!"
* YourMindMakesItReal: When Raven removed Jinx’s implanted love, her mind wasn't able to comprehend all of the inconsistencies, so her memories are still trying to make sense of everything. To sort out the cognitive dissonance. Unfortunately, that means that not everything she remembers will be the same as how Ryoga remember them.
** This seems to be the after effects of Ranma absorbing Shandra Mal’s memories. Not only did this change the appearance of his girl form to better match Shandra’s but it also locked him in his form.
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* YouAreWhatYouHate: Starfire hates the human less for her MindRape and more for their FantasticRacism. However as the story goes on a lot of her commits such as referring to her fellow Titan’s Titan's as the good ones come across as something Val Yor would say. Then we find out that The Tameraneans have gone through not one but four war’s war's similar to the War XCOM is currently fighting. All of which ended with the total genocide of their enemies.
enemies.
* YouDidntAsk: The computerized Cyborgdidn’t didn't tell anyone that they had escaped the Hulk dimension and returned home until after they asked.
--> '''Jinx''': -->'''Jinx:''' That's it! I'm with Ryu and Duck Boy, time to melt you down into-!"
into--!"
* YourMindMakesItReal: When Raven removedJinx’s Jinx's implanted love, her mind wasn't able to comprehend all of the inconsistencies, so her memories are still trying to make sense of everything. To sort out the cognitive dissonance. Unfortunately, that means that not everything she remembers will be the same as how Ryoga remember them.
** This seems to be the after effects of Ranma absorbing ShandraMal’s Mal's memories. Not only did this change the appearance of his girl form to better match Shandra’s Shandra's but it also locked him in his form. form.
* YouDidntAsk: The computerized Cyborg
* YourMindMakesItReal: When Raven removed
** This seems to be the after effects of Ranma absorbing Shandra
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** This is how trespasser killed raven Raven.
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* NotSoDifferent: Akari compares Jinx to Akane and Nabiki. All three are the type to ask Ryouga something, knowing he wouldn't know how to say 'no.'
** Starfire and the X-COM universe. The reason the X-Com side is so big on humanity uber alles, in DCland, aliens range from evil to good, while in X-Comland, every alien species is malevolent. How the only way for humanity to survive predation is to band together, as there's no convenient superheroes about to save the world. Being a powerless experimental subjects for thousands of years has done terrible things to the collective subconscious of humanity. It might not end up being too different from what normal people feel in the DC universe. If nothing else then Starfire can relate to what it feels like to be a powerless experimental subject. Probably the avenue by which she eventually comes around. Starfire admitted her hypocrisy in her fight with Ukyo.
** According to WordOfGod this was the reason for the crossover in the first place. The Titans dislike the idea of the x com approach, since they believe it's stifling, and having to hide in the shadows all of the time to do what needs to be done. They don't like the idea of killing their enemies, which come in endless streams of near faceless monsters. No matter how many they destroy, it's just another day at work with no end in sight.
** On the Romeo and Juliet side, they see the super hero lifestyle as something of a joke. A bunch of colorfully costumed kids with super powers running around fighting the same set of bad guys over and over again.
** But, when you look at it from an outside perspective, you kind of go 'huh' and realize something amusing. Both sides are pretty much doing the exact same thing, they just perceive it differently. The Titans are an organization, funded by outside sources, tasked with fighting off threats both domestic and alien. Romeo and Juliet are essentially groups of super heroes, endlessly fighting the same sets of bad guys over and over again.
** The similarities between both sides are pretty substantial. The main difference is just that they see how they're doing it as completely different.
** Starfire and the X-COM universe. The reason the X-Com side is so big on humanity uber alles, in DCland, aliens range from evil to good, while in X-Comland, every alien species is malevolent. How the only way for humanity to survive predation is to band together, as there's no convenient superheroes about to save the world. Being a powerless experimental subjects for thousands of years has done terrible things to the collective subconscious of humanity. It might not end up being too different from what normal people feel in the DC universe. If nothing else then Starfire can relate to what it feels like to be a powerless experimental subject. Probably the avenue by which she eventually comes around. Starfire admitted her hypocrisy in her fight with Ukyo.
** According to WordOfGod this was the reason for the crossover in the first place. The Titans dislike the idea of the x com approach, since they believe it's stifling, and having to hide in the shadows all of the time to do what needs to be done. They don't like the idea of killing their enemies, which come in endless streams of near faceless monsters. No matter how many they destroy, it's just another day at work with no end in sight.
** On the Romeo and Juliet side, they see the super hero lifestyle as something of a joke. A bunch of colorfully costumed kids with super powers running around fighting the same set of bad guys over and over again.
** But, when you look at it from an outside perspective, you kind of go 'huh' and realize something amusing. Both sides are pretty much doing the exact same thing, they just perceive it differently. The Titans are an organization, funded by outside sources, tasked with fighting off threats both domestic and alien. Romeo and Juliet are essentially groups of super heroes, endlessly fighting the same sets of bad guys over and over again.
** The similarities between both sides are pretty substantial. The main difference is just that they see how they're doing it as completely different.
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* NotSoDifferent: NotSoDifferentRemark: Akari compares Jinx to Akane and Nabiki. All three are the type to ask Ryouga something, knowing he wouldn't know how to say 'no.'
** Starfire and the X-COM universe. The reason the X-Com side is so big on humanity uber alles, in DCland, aliens range from evil to good, while in X-Comland, every alien species is malevolent. How the only way for humanity to survive predation is to band together, as there's no convenient superheroes about to save the world. Being a powerless experimental subjects for thousands of years has done terrible things to the collective subconscious of humanity. It might not end up being too different from what normal people feel in the DC universe. If nothing else then Starfire can relate to what it feels like to be a powerless experimental subject. Probably the avenue by which she eventually comes around. Starfire admitted her hypocrisy in her fight with Ukyo.
** According to WordOfGod this was the reason for the crossover in the first place. The Titans dislike the idea of the x com approach, since they believe it's stifling, and having to hide in the shadows all of the time to do what needs to be done. They don't like the idea of killing their enemies, which come in endless streams of near faceless monsters. No matter how many they destroy, it's just another day at work with no end in sight.
** On the Romeo and Juliet side, they see the super hero lifestyle as something of a joke. A bunch of colorfully costumed kids with super powers running around fighting the same set of bad guys over and over again.
** But, when you look at it from an outside perspective, you kind of go 'huh' and realize something amusing. Both sides are pretty much doing the exact same thing, they just perceive it differently. The Titans are an organization, funded by outside sources, tasked with fighting off threats both domestic and alien. Romeo and Juliet are essentially groups of super heroes, endlessly fighting the same sets of bad guys over and over again.
** The similarities between both sides are pretty substantial. The main difference is just that they see how they're doing it as completely different.'
** Starfire and the X-COM universe. The reason the X-Com side is so big on humanity uber alles, in DCland, aliens range from evil to good, while in X-Comland, every alien species is malevolent. How the only way for humanity to survive predation is to band together, as there's no convenient superheroes about to save the world. Being a powerless experimental subjects for thousands of years has done terrible things to the collective subconscious of humanity. It might not end up being too different from what normal people feel in the DC universe. If nothing else then Starfire can relate to what it feels like to be a powerless experimental subject. Probably the avenue by which she eventually comes around. Starfire admitted her hypocrisy in her fight with Ukyo.
** According to WordOfGod this was the reason for the crossover in the first place. The Titans dislike the idea of the x com approach, since they believe it's stifling, and having to hide in the shadows all of the time to do what needs to be done. They don't like the idea of killing their enemies, which come in endless streams of near faceless monsters. No matter how many they destroy, it's just another day at work with no end in sight.
** On the Romeo and Juliet side, they see the super hero lifestyle as something of a joke. A bunch of colorfully costumed kids with super powers running around fighting the same set of bad guys over and over again.
** But, when you look at it from an outside perspective, you kind of go 'huh' and realize something amusing. Both sides are pretty much doing the exact same thing, they just perceive it differently. The Titans are an organization, funded by outside sources, tasked with fighting off threats both domestic and alien. Romeo and Juliet are essentially groups of super heroes, endlessly fighting the same sets of bad guys over and over again.
** The similarities between both sides are pretty substantial. The main difference is just that they see how they're doing it as completely different.
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** it got worse when he entered the Hulk Dimensions as he got increasingly passive aggressive During a mission Jinx ended up causing a collapse (its unknowm weather it was intentional or not) injuring X-Ryoga and damaging his air supply. He and Jinx ended up combining their abilities to get back to the ship however the combination ended up being power art a price critically injuring both X-Ryoga and Jinx. T-Ryoga ignored this calling Ukyo monsters for allowing it to happen. However Ukyo quickly called him out on his hypocrisy.
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** it got worse when he entered the Hulk Dimensions as he got increasingly passive aggressive During a mission Jinx ended up causing a collapse (its unknowm unknown weather it was intentional or not) injuring X-Ryoga and damaging his air supply. He and Jinx ended up combining their abilities to get back to the ship however the combination ended up being power art a price critically injuring both X-Ryoga and Jinx. T-Ryoga ignored this calling Ukyo monsters for allowing it to happen. However Ukyo quickly called him out on his hypocrisy.
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* RealityEnsues: The Titan’s were repeatedly warned that putting Etheral DNA back into Akari was a bad idea. Even by Akari herself he wished to die as herself. Yet they did it anyway is it any surprise that it went bad.
** It should be noted that a lot of Jinx’s actions are motivated by ItsAllAboutMe (which seems to be a side effect of being coerced into loving Ryoga) which makes the consequences this trope. Back in Atlantis Jinx forcibly synchronized with Ryoga and Terra because she was jealous of the fact that they were so in synch with each other. obviously introducing this new unknown factor in such an intricate technique endangered all three of their lives. She only went to get the Ethereal DNA because she didn’t care about Akari’s wishes.
** Raven has lost the link to her MoralityPet and with none to vent her emotions to she has shouldered all of her troubles by herself. Because of this Slade only needed to find a single small chink in her armor to get her to become DrunkOnTheDarkSide.
*** Raven’s powers are not exclusively mental, but spiritual an extension of her entire being, mind, body and soul. By focusing exclusively on her psyche she lost touch with her with her physical being.
** Despite his immense power the millennia he spent trapped in the hulk dimension really took a toll on Tresspasser
** Ukyo utilizing BoringButPractical with the GreenLanternRing. There are two main reasons that Ukyou didn't use a plasma rifle. Of course the complexity issue would mean nothing to her, as she lacks insight into the intricacies of Green Lantern abilities, so while important, it's not one of them. First is merely a familiary/comfort issue. It's what she knows and what she's confident with, so she likes to use her spatula. Second, for the most part, she is trying to restrain and capture, as opposed to kill T-Ryo (...though you could easily be forgiven for thinking otherwise with some of the attacks she was using), so creating a Plasma rifle wasn't really suitable for her purpose.
*** The GL ring is powered by will power. For the duration of the Hulk Arc (not the green one), Ukyou has been trapped in a dimension that drives you insane, and was brainwashed and subverted by a hostile alien. Her will power (and pretty much everyone elses) is so compromised that its a miracle she can use the ring at all (a rather telling testament in Ukyou's favour, that she can even use it in such hellish conditions)
** A few readers were surprised that X-COM were able to subdue the Titan’s so easily as X-COM is exactly the kind of organization that pretty much every superhero team since... ever, stomp in their spare time. They might have more noble goals then most, but comics are filled to the brim with orginizations that are almost identical in character and nature, if not purpose. Forgetting that those organizations are keep sending black suited norms with an M-16 and expect them to face down Wolverines and Spiderman. NOT coordinated battle hardened, psionic, martial artist.
** When Cyborg was turned human, he totally fell apart, and when Starfire turned human, she took her horrible chainsaw weapon and stabbed the Elder God in the eye. Starfire stepped up her game when she turned human, since she's still essential herself, and herself never gives up. Cyborg, on the other hand, happened to be running in full computer mode at the time, so you can imagine how disconcerting it had to have been to be in computer mode with a flesh and blood body. It's not good times.
** It should be noted that a lot of Jinx’s actions are motivated by ItsAllAboutMe (which seems to be a side effect of being coerced into loving Ryoga) which makes the consequences this trope. Back in Atlantis Jinx forcibly synchronized with Ryoga and Terra because she was jealous of the fact that they were so in synch with each other. obviously introducing this new unknown factor in such an intricate technique endangered all three of their lives. She only went to get the Ethereal DNA because she didn’t care about Akari’s wishes.
** Raven has lost the link to her MoralityPet and with none to vent her emotions to she has shouldered all of her troubles by herself. Because of this Slade only needed to find a single small chink in her armor to get her to become DrunkOnTheDarkSide.
*** Raven’s powers are not exclusively mental, but spiritual an extension of her entire being, mind, body and soul. By focusing exclusively on her psyche she lost touch with her with her physical being.
** Despite his immense power the millennia he spent trapped in the hulk dimension really took a toll on Tresspasser
** Ukyo utilizing BoringButPractical with the GreenLanternRing. There are two main reasons that Ukyou didn't use a plasma rifle. Of course the complexity issue would mean nothing to her, as she lacks insight into the intricacies of Green Lantern abilities, so while important, it's not one of them. First is merely a familiary/comfort issue. It's what she knows and what she's confident with, so she likes to use her spatula. Second, for the most part, she is trying to restrain and capture, as opposed to kill T-Ryo (...though you could easily be forgiven for thinking otherwise with some of the attacks she was using), so creating a Plasma rifle wasn't really suitable for her purpose.
*** The GL ring is powered by will power. For the duration of the Hulk Arc (not the green one), Ukyou has been trapped in a dimension that drives you insane, and was brainwashed and subverted by a hostile alien. Her will power (and pretty much everyone elses) is so compromised that its a miracle she can use the ring at all (a rather telling testament in Ukyou's favour, that she can even use it in such hellish conditions)
** A few readers were surprised that X-COM were able to subdue the Titan’s so easily as X-COM is exactly the kind of organization that pretty much every superhero team since... ever, stomp in their spare time. They might have more noble goals then most, but comics are filled to the brim with orginizations that are almost identical in character and nature, if not purpose. Forgetting that those organizations are keep sending black suited norms with an M-16 and expect them to face down Wolverines and Spiderman. NOT coordinated battle hardened, psionic, martial artist.
** When Cyborg was turned human, he totally fell apart, and when Starfire turned human, she took her horrible chainsaw weapon and stabbed the Elder God in the eye. Starfire stepped up her game when she turned human, since she's still essential herself, and herself never gives up. Cyborg, on the other hand, happened to be running in full computer mode at the time, so you can imagine how disconcerting it had to have been to be in computer mode with a flesh and blood body. It's not good times.
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** It should be noted that a lot of Jinx’s actions are motivated by ItsAllAboutMe (which seems to be a side effect of being coerced into loving Ryoga) which makes the consequences this trope. Back in Atlantis Jinx forcibly synchronized with Ryoga and Terra because she was jealous of the fact that they were so in synch with each other. obviously introducing this new unknown factor in such an intricate technique endangered all three of their lives. She only went to get the Ethereal DNA because she didn’t care about Akari’s wishes.
** Raven has lost the link to her MoralityPet and with none to vent her emotions to she has shouldered all of her troubles by herself. Because of this Slade only needed to find a single small chink in her armor to get her to become DrunkOnTheDarkSide.
*** Raven’s powers are not exclusively mental, but spiritual an extension of her entire being, mind, body and soul. By focusing exclusively on her psyche she lost touch with her with her physical being.
** Despite his immense power the millennia he spent trapped in the hulk dimension really took a toll on Tresspasser
** Ukyo utilizing BoringButPractical with the GreenLanternRing. There are two main reasons that Ukyou didn't use a plasma rifle. Of course the complexity issue would mean nothing to her, as she lacks insight into the intricacies of Green Lantern abilities, so while important, it's not one of them. First is merely a familiary/comfort issue. It's what she knows and what she's confident with, so she likes to use her spatula. Second, for the most part, she is trying to restrain and capture, as opposed to kill T-Ryo (...though you could easily be forgiven for thinking otherwise with some of the attacks she was using), so creating a Plasma rifle wasn't really suitable for her purpose.
*** The GL ring is powered by will power. For the duration of the Hulk Arc (not the green one), Ukyou has been trapped in a dimension that drives you insane, and was brainwashed and subverted by a hostile alien. Her will power (and pretty much everyone elses) is so compromised that its a miracle she can use the ring at all (a rather telling testament in Ukyou's favour, that she can even use it in such hellish conditions)
** A few readers were surprised that X-COM were able to subdue the Titan’s so easily as X-COM is exactly the kind of organization that pretty much every superhero team since... ever, stomp in their spare time. They might have more noble goals then most, but comics are filled to the brim with orginizations that are almost identical in character and nature, if not purpose. Forgetting that those organizations are keep sending black suited norms with an M-16 and expect them to face down Wolverines and Spiderman. NOT coordinated battle hardened, psionic, martial artist.
** When Cyborg was turned human, he totally fell apart, and when Starfire turned human, she took her horrible chainsaw weapon and stabbed the Elder God in the eye. Starfire stepped up her game when she turned human, since she's still essential herself, and herself never gives up. Cyborg, on the other hand, happened to be running in full computer mode at the time, so you can imagine how disconcerting it had to have been to be in computer mode with a flesh and blood body. It's not good times.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: The Titan’s were repeatedly warned that putting Etheral DNA back into Akari was a bad idea. Even by Akari herself he wished to die as herself. Yet they did it anyway is it any surprise that it went bad.
** It should be noted that a lot of Jinx’s actions are motivated by ItsAllAboutMe (which seems to be a side effect of being coerced into loving Ryoga) which makes the consequences this trope. Back in Atlantis Jinx forcibly synchronized with Ryoga and Terra because she was jealous of the fact that they were so in synch with each other. obviously introducing this new unknown factor in such an intricate technique endangered all three of their lives. She only went to get the Ethereal DNA because she didn’t care about Akari’s wishes.
** Raven has lost the link to her MoralityPet and with none to vent her emotions to she has shouldered all of her troubles by herself. Because of this Slade only needed to find a single small chink in her armor to get her to become DrunkOnTheDarkSide.
*** Raven’s powers are not exclusively mental, but spiritual an extension of her entire being, mind, body and soul. By focusing exclusively on her psyche she lost touch with her with her physical being.
** Despite his immense power the millennia he spent trapped in the hulk dimension really took a toll on Tresspasser
** Ukyo utilizing BoringButPractical with the GreenLanternRing. There are two main reasons that Ukyou didn't use a plasma rifle. Of course the complexity issue would mean nothing to her, as she lacks insight into the intricacies of Green Lantern abilities, so while important, it's not one of them. First is merely a familiary/comfort issue. It's what she knows and what she's confident with, so she likes to use her spatula. Second, for the most part, she is trying to restrain and capture, as opposed to kill T-Ryo (...though you could easily be forgiven for thinking otherwise with some of the attacks she was using), so creating a Plasma rifle wasn't really suitable for her purpose.
*** The GL ring is powered by will power. For the duration of the Hulk Arc (not the green one), Ukyou has been trapped in a dimension that drives you insane, and was brainwashed and subverted by a hostile alien. Her will power (and pretty much everyone elses) is so compromised that its a miracle she can use the ring at all (a rather telling testament in Ukyou's favour, that she can even use it in such hellish conditions)
** A few readers were surprised that X-COM were able to subdue the Titan’s so easily as X-COM is exactly the kind of organization that pretty much every superhero team since... ever, stomp in their spare time. They might have more noble goals then most, but comics are filled to the brim with orginizations that are almost identical in character and nature, if not purpose. Forgetting that those organizations are keep sending black suited norms with an M-16 and expect them to face down Wolverines and Spiderman. NOT coordinated battle hardened, psionic, martial artist.
** When Cyborg was turned human, he totally fell apart, and when Starfire turned human, she took her horrible chainsaw weapon and stabbed the Elder God in the eye. Starfire stepped up her game when she turned human, since she's still essential herself, and herself never gives up. Cyborg, on the other hand, happened to be running in full computer mode at the time, so you can imagine how disconcerting it had to have been to be in computer mode with a flesh and blood body. It's not good times.
** It should be noted that a lot of Jinx’s actions are motivated by ItsAllAboutMe (which seems to be a side effect of being coerced into loving Ryoga) which makes the consequences this trope. Back in Atlantis Jinx forcibly synchronized with Ryoga and Terra because she was jealous of the fact that they were so in synch with each other. obviously introducing this new unknown factor in such an intricate technique endangered all three of their lives. She only went to get the Ethereal DNA because she didn’t care about Akari’s wishes.
** Raven has lost the link to her MoralityPet and with none to vent her emotions to she has shouldered all of her troubles by herself. Because of this Slade only needed to find a single small chink in her armor to get her to become DrunkOnTheDarkSide.
*** Raven’s powers are not exclusively mental, but spiritual an extension of her entire being, mind, body and soul. By focusing exclusively on her psyche she lost touch with her with her physical being.
** Despite his immense power the millennia he spent trapped in the hulk dimension really took a toll on Tresspasser
** Ukyo utilizing BoringButPractical with the GreenLanternRing. There are two main reasons that Ukyou didn't use a plasma rifle. Of course the complexity issue would mean nothing to her, as she lacks insight into the intricacies of Green Lantern abilities, so while important, it's not one of them. First is merely a familiary/comfort issue. It's what she knows and what she's confident with, so she likes to use her spatula. Second, for the most part, she is trying to restrain and capture, as opposed to kill T-Ryo (...though you could easily be forgiven for thinking otherwise with some of the attacks she was using), so creating a Plasma rifle wasn't really suitable for her purpose.
*** The GL ring is powered by will power. For the duration of the Hulk Arc (not the green one), Ukyou has been trapped in a dimension that drives you insane, and was brainwashed and subverted by a hostile alien. Her will power (and pretty much everyone elses) is so compromised that its a miracle she can use the ring at all (a rather telling testament in Ukyou's favour, that she can even use it in such hellish conditions)
** A few readers were surprised that X-COM were able to subdue the Titan’s so easily as X-COM is exactly the kind of organization that pretty much every superhero team since... ever, stomp in their spare time. They might have more noble goals then most, but comics are filled to the brim with orginizations that are almost identical in character and nature, if not purpose. Forgetting that those organizations are keep sending black suited norms with an M-16 and expect them to face down Wolverines and Spiderman. NOT coordinated battle hardened, psionic, martial artist.
** When Cyborg was turned human, he totally fell apart, and when Starfire turned human, she took her horrible chainsaw weapon and stabbed the Elder God in the eye. Starfire stepped up her game when she turned human, since she's still essential herself, and herself never gives up. Cyborg, on the other hand, happened to be running in full computer mode at the time, so you can imagine how disconcerting it had to have been to be in computer mode with a flesh and blood body. It's not good times.
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* ShoutOut: The fact that Cyborg was able to leave a footprint in solid asphalt led to the cops thinking they were chasing IronMan
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* ShoutOut: The fact that Cyborg was able to leave a footprint in solid asphalt led to the cops thinking they were chasing IronManComicBook/IronMan.
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* FrickinLaserBeams
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Although it is uncertain how much of this was unintentional and simply inherent undertones in the original X-COM chronology, there are lots of RuleOfSymbolism aspects packed into RLOADR, very FamilyUnfriendlyAesop style or otherwise, including Saffron now being an EldritchAbomination [[SuicideAttack suicide bomber]]. The opposition are written as some kind of odd UsefulNotes/{{Buddhism}} + [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul Internet Addiction]] + [[UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies Socialism]] + SpoiledBrat + PsychopathicManchild + [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} Islam Fundamentalist]] + EldritchAbomination extreme TakeThat AccentuateTheNegative distortion/inaccurate associations overlap, which comes across as UnfortunateImplications, considering that the first two to four groups are generally completely harmless in real world terms, if possibly helpless in certain areas, while [[SociopathicSoldier some of the types]] [[MadDoctor of people]] set as {{Designated Hero}}es against them are very much not.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Although it is uncertain how much of this was unintentional and simply inherent undertones in the original X-COM chronology, there are lots of RuleOfSymbolism aspects packed into RLOADR, very FamilyUnfriendlyAesop style or otherwise, including Saffron now being an EldritchAbomination [[SuicideAttack suicide bomber]]. The opposition are written as some kind of odd UsefulNotes/{{Buddhism}} + [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul Internet Addiction]] + [[UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies Socialism]] + SpoiledBrat + PsychopathicManchild + [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} Islam Fundamentalist]] + EldritchAbomination extreme TakeThat AccentuateTheNegative distortion/inaccurate associations overlap, which comes across as UnfortunateImplications, considering that the first two to four groups are generally completely harmless in real world terms, if possibly helpless in certain areas, while [[SociopathicSoldier some of the types]] [[MadDoctor of people]] set as {{Designated Hero}}es against them are very much not.
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* {{Adorkable}}: Cyborg channeling Robin when he first showed up in the X-com universe was very much this.
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** Starfire herself lampshaded the fact that her increasing HumansAreBastardsmentality causes this putting herself and others in danger numerous times.
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** Starfire herself lampshaded the fact that her increasing HumansAreBastardsmentality HumansAreBastards mentality causes this putting herself and others in danger numerous times.
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* BiTheWay: Nabiki showed signs of this while in the Hulk Dimension.
** Played with her kiss with Raven was just a ploy to distract Ukyo.
*** However neither party was exactly disgusted by what happened.
** Played with her kiss with Raven was just a ploy to distract Ukyo.
*** However neither party was exactly disgusted by what happened.
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* KiAttacks: Now in two flavors - emotion based ki and elemental ki.
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* KiAttacks: KiManipulation: Now in two flavors - emotion based ki and elemental ki.
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: While the Titan’s like to think of themselves as morally superior to the heroes in the X-Comverse they narrative is more this trope then the WhiteAndGreyMorality or even the BlackAndWhiteMorality they like to perceive it as.
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: While the Titan’s like to think of themselves as morally superior to the heroes in the X-Comverse they narrative is more this trope then the WhiteAndGreyMorality or even the BlackAndWhiteMorality they like to perceive it as.trope.
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* TakeThat: One was done to the SpiderMan and X-Men movies when Akari and Jinx were escaping.
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* TakeThat: One was done to the SpiderMan Franchise/SpiderMan and X-Men movies when Akari and Jinx were escaping.