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Revival_Zero Since: Dec, 2016
Aug 19th 2017 at 12:46:14 PM •••

My entry about Nina being a Pinball Protagonist was deleted, which wouldn't bother me if it wasn't because the reason given if anything enforces the fact that she is indeed one:

This is just patently not true, and yet again I wonder what show people are watching. She has all the personal stakes in stopping the guy she loves from destroying the world, and this is the main source of tension and motivation for her.

Technically true, Nina's personal stake is about her feelings for Charioce, but lets look at the number of major plot points in Virgin Souls:

  • The subjucation of both Gods and Demons by humanity, its source coming from Charioce, which lead Azazel to attempt a liberation of the demon race from them.
  • Mugaro/El status as a Sacred Child who since having the abbility to deactivate the magic of Onyx Knight and he being coveted by Gabriel means that he will play an important role.
  • Kaisar growing more and more distrustful of the Kiing's motivations and modus operandi and eventually shedding of his knighthood in favor of upfolding his ideals and help his friends.
  • Jeanne having what is pretty much the series' version of a miraculous conception of an human/angel hybrid (?), being imprisoned by Charioce, wanting to reunite with El, and her managing to make a high ranked angel (Sofiel is a candidate for becoming an archangel) to side in her quest.
  • The possible resultant uprising of Heaven, which may or may not be product of Gabriel's machinations or just the natural consequences of yet another lost battle and lost lives.
  • The fact that since his open declaration of war against the Heavens, the previously adored King Charioce is quickly losing popularity and possibly the reings of his kingdom.
  • The possible break of the seal of Bahamut which seems to be what drove Charioce to the creation of Dromos.
  • Who considering was sealed along Amira, might end up involving Favaro too.

Now, lets's look at Nina's plot or characterization points that she had at the beggining of the series:

  • Her innability to control her dragon transformation, which is later hinted at being a product of her PTSD and slight Daddy Issues.
  • Wanting to become a bounty hunter or at least work in the Capital so she can send money to her village.
  • Finding out that the prosperity of Anatae was build on the backs of the demons slaughtered by the King's armies and the stolen magic knowledge from the gods.
  • Bonding with Mugaro through Azazel or viceversa (ymmv on that) and possibly the plight of the demons in the capital.
  • Meeting the King in his Chris disguise and falling for him.
  • Meeting Rita, Kaisar, and them in turn finding out that Favaro was her teacher.
  • If we want to be generous, her teacher-student relationship with Favaro could also count

Now, that was roughly at the first few episodes, fast forward to episode 18 and the end results of Nina being exposed to all of the two above lists through the relationships she had with almost if not all the main characters, the end result is that her only personal stake is:

  • Saving Charioce, because of the The Chainsof Commanding is what's forcing him to be a scary King.
  • If once we're generous, by simple alignment she's onto the board of stopping Dromos from being activated again, because that's what her friends are also doing and and even that from her perspective it also involves saving Charioce.

That's it, there was even a Lampshade Hanging on the lastest episode about how she (along with Favaro and Azazel) where lazing around while all the others where gathering information about how to infiltrate the palace and get near the King.

There's has been exactly two times in the entirety of the series so far where her dragon transformation has affected the outcome of any events (first in ep. 4 and the other after they escape prison) and the previously mentioned ptsd and daddy issues her own mother hints at are handwaved because all it took was for her to learn what if feels like to ber loved.

Because from all of the above she has absolutely no opinions, no hindsight, not even a comment from all that has been happening around her that doesn't involve Charioce, despite the fact that she's involved with so many other characters and plots, her role as a protagonist is very much reactive rather than active and overall if she was taken out from the story or made a secondary character it would hardly if affect the story at all, which taken from the Pinball Protagonist main page we have:

If the writing and tone of the tale all imply that the character is the protagonist, and yet they can be lifted right out of the story and have little to no impact on anything that has or will happen: then they're just a little silver ball in the cosmic pinball game of life.

I rest my case.

Edited by Revival_Zero
OCD Since: May, 2011
Dec 22nd 2014 at 12:04:57 AM •••

Many articles in this section are written under the assumption that Lucifer is the demon overlord, which needs a correction. If we are to believe the game lore, this isn't true. Lucifer is on the official page described as the one who united demons after Satan's demise and brought balance back, but he does not rule all demons. He is specifically called "Chief of the Fallen Angels". Beelzebub is his very evenly matched rival, not his minion. This is reflected in Lucifer's reaction to Beelzebub's obvious scheming, he's obviously alerted, but cannot raid Beelzebub freely.

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AnoBakaDesu Since: Oct, 2013
Dec 24th 2014 at 9:58:16 PM •••

This sheds some light on how the demons operate. Changes will be underway.

"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
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