Discussion History Characters / AngelBeats

* There are some fans who have shown distaste for the Cybus Cybermen from \"Rise of the Cybermen\"/\"The Age of Steel\". When \"The Pandorica Opens\" aired, the Mondasian Cybermen make their return (Steven Moffat confirmed that these were the Mondas Cybermen; they just didn\'t have the budget to change the costume.) However, it\'s not much of a throw. All \"reappearances\" of the old Cybermen are the new Cybermen looking and acting exactly as they always have. People who really want the old Cybermen back often consider merely saying they\'re back a cop-out, and people who don\'t (or just don\'t care) wonder why bother pretending.

I dunno. Given that New Series Cybermen look a lot more like what most people mean by \"classic\" Cybermen than the original Cybermen do, I\'m not sure the appearance means much. If there \'\'hadn\'t\'\' been a Cybus Industries, and we were just told \"This is what Cybermen look like now\", I suspect most people would have just accepted it. It\'s nowhere near as drastic a change as the Silurians got, for example. Moffat apparently got the budget to redesign them as of \"Nightmare in Silver\", but they still didn\'t look like the old ones because that\'s not what New Who does. Maybe some day we\'ll get \"Asylum of the Cybermen\", with \"Moonbase\" white plastic and \"Revenge\" tinfoil and \"Tenth Planet\" giant headlamps all coexisting.

As far as behaviour goes, Moffat\'s Cybermen have spaceships and fought in Cyberwars, just like in the classic series, whereas Davies\'s Cybermen showed no signs of ever leaving Earth (although they could jump universes and time travel, so it wasn\'t always the \'\'same\'\' Earth). Beyond that, they\'re stompy metal monsters who hate emotions and convert people into more Cybermen, whatever era you\'re in. (I suppose Moffat\'s Cybermen do say \"Delete!\", because when has Moffat let go of a catchphrase?)

* There are some fans who have shown distaste for the Cybus Cybermen from \"Rise of the Cybermen\"/\"The Age of Steel\". When \"The Pandorica Opens\" aired, the Mondasian Cybermen make their return (Steven Moffat confirmed that these were the Mondas Cybermen; they just didn\'t have the budget to change the costume.) However, it\'s not much of a throw. All \"reappearances\" of the old Cybermen are the new Cybermen looking and acting exactly as they always have. People who really want the old Cybermen back often consider merely saying they\'re back a cop-out, and people who don\'t (or just don\'t care) wonder why bother pretending.

I dunno. Given that New Series Cybermen look a lot more like what most people mean by \"classic\" Cybermen than the original Cybermen do, I\'m not sure the appearance means much. If there \'\'hadn\'t\'\' been a Cybus Industries, and we were just told \"This is what Cybermen look like now\", I suspect most people would have just accepted it. It\'s nowhere near as drastic a change as the Silurians got, for example. Moffat apparently got the budget to redesign them as of \"Nightmare in Silver\", but they still didn\'t look like the old ones because that\'s not what New Who does. Maybe some day we\'ll get \"Asylum of the Cybermen\", with \"Invasion\" white plastic and \"Revenge\" tinfoil and \"Tenth Planet\" giant headlamps all coexisting.

As far as behaviour goes, Moffat\'s Cybermen have spaceships and fought in Cyberwars, just like in the classic series, whereas Davies\'s Cybermen showed no signs of ever leaving Earth (although they could jump universes and time travel, so it wasn\'t always the \'\'same\'\' Earth). Beyond that, they\'re stompy metal monsters who hate emotions and convert people into more Cybermen, whatever era you\'re in. (I suppose Moffat\'s Cybermen do say \"Delete!\", because when has Moffat let go of a catchphrase?)

* There are some fans who have shown distaste for the Cybus Cybermen from \"Rise of the Cybermen\"/\"The Age of Steel\". When \"The Pandorica Opens\" aired, the Mondasian Cybermen make their return (Steven Moffat confirmed that these were the Mondas Cybermen; they just didn\'t have the budget to change the costume.) However, it\'s not much of a throw. All \"reappearances\" of the old Cybermen are the new Cybermen looking and acting exactly as they always have. People who really want the old Cybermen back often consider merely saying they\'re back a cop-out, and people who don\'t (or just don\'t care) wonder why bother pretending.

I dunno. Given that New Series Cybermen look a lot more like what most people mean by \"classic\" Cybermen than the original Cybermen do, I\'m not sure the appearance means much. If there \'\'hadn\'t\'\' been a Cybus Industries, and we were just told \"This is what Cybermen look like now\", I suspect most people would have just accepted it. It\'s nowhere near as drastic a change as the Silurians got, for example. Moffatt apparently got the budget to redesign them as of \"Nightmare in Silver\", but they still didn\'t look like the old ones because that\'s not what New Who does. Maybe some day we\'ll get \"Asylum of the Cybermen\", with \"Invasion\" white plastic and \"Revenge\" tinfoil and \"Tenth Planet\" giant headlamps all coexisting.

As far as behaviour goes, Moffat\'s Cybermen have spaceships and fought in Cyberwars, just like in the classic series, whereas Davies\'s Cybermen showed no signs of ever leaving Earth (although they could jump universes and time travel, so it wasn\'t always the \'\'same\'\' Earth). Beyond that, they\'re stompy metal monsters who hate emotions and convert people into more Cybermen, whatever era you\'re in. (I suppose Moffat\'s Cybermen do say \"Delete!\", because when has Moffat let go of a catchphrase?)

* There are some fans who have shown distaste for the Cybus Cybermen from \"Rise of the Cybermen\"/\"The Age of Steel\". When \"The Pandorica Opens\" aired, the Mondasian Cybermen make their return (Steven Moffat confirmed that these were the Mondas Cybermen; they just didn\'t have the budget to change the costume.) However, it\'s not much of a throw. All \"reappearances\" of the old Cybermen are the new Cybermen looking and acting exactly as they always have. People who really want the old Cybermen back often consider merely saying they\'re back a cop-out, and people who don\'t (or just don\'t care) wonder why bother pretending.

I dunno. Given that New Series Cybermen look a lot more like what most people mean by \"classic\" Cybermen than the original Cybermen do, I\'m not sure the appearance means much. If there \'\'hadn\'t\'\' been a Cybus Industries, and we were just told \"This is what Cybermen look like now\", I suspect most people would have just accepted it. It\'s nowhere near as drastic a change as the Silurians got, for example. Moffatt apparently got the budget to redesign them as of \"Nightmare in Silver\", but they still didn\'t look like the old ones because that\'s not what New Who does. Maybe some day we\'ll get \"Asylum of the Cybermen\", with \"Invasion\" white plastic and \"Revenge\" tinfoil and \"Tenth Planet\" giant headlamps all coexisting.

As far as behaviour goes, Moffat\'s Cybermen have spaceships and fought in Cyberwars, just like in the Tom Baker era, whereas Davies\'s Cybermen showed no signs of ever leaving Earth (although they could jump universes and time travel, so it wasn\'t always the \'\'same\'\' Earth). Beyond that, they\'re stompy metal monsters who hate emotions and convert people into more Cybermen, whatever era you\'re in. (I suppose Moffat\'s Cybermen do say \"Delete!\", because when has Moffat let go of a catchphrase?)

* There are some fans who have shown distaste for the Cybus Cybermen from \"Rise of the Cybermen\"/\"The Age of Steel\". When \"The Pandorica Opens\" aired, the Mondasian Cybermen make their return (Steven Moffat confirmed that these were the Mondas Cybermen; they just didn\'t have the budget to change the costume.) However, it\'s not much of a throw. All \"reappearances\" of the old Cybermen are the new Cybermen looking and acting exactly as they always have. People who really want the old Cybermen back often consider merely saying they\'re back a cop-out, and people who don\'t (or just don\'t care) wonder why bother pretending.

I dunno. Given that New Series Cybermen look a lot more like what most people mean by \"classic\" Cybermen than the original Cybermen do, I\'m not sure the appearance means much. If there \'\'hadn\'t\'\' been a Cybus Industries, and we were just told \"This is what Cybermen look like now\", I suspect most people would have just accepted it. It\'s nowhere near as drastic a change as the Silurians got, for example. Moffatt apparently got the budget to redesign them as of \"Nightmare in Silver\", but they still didn\'t look like the old ones because that\'s not what New Who does. Maybe some day we\'ll get \"Asylum of the Cybermen\", with \"Invasion\" white plastic and \"Revenge\" tinfoil and \"Tenth Planet\" giant headlamps all coexisting.

As far as behaviour goes, Moffat\'s Cybermen have spaceships and fought in Cyberwars, just like in the old series, whereas Davies\'s Cybermen showed no signs of ever leaving Earth (although they could jump universes and time travel, so it wasn\'t always the \'\'same\'\' Earth). Beyond that, they\'re stompy metal monsters who hate emotions and convert people into more Cybermen, whatever era you\'re in. (I suppose Moffat\'s Cybermen do say \"Delete!\", because when has Moffat let go of a catchphrase?)

* There are some fans who have shown distaste for the Cybus Cybermen from \"Rise of the Cybermen\"/\"The Age of Steel\". When \"The Pandorica Opens\" aired, the Mondasian Cybermen make their return (Steven Moffat confirmed that these were the Mondas Cybermen; they just didn\'t have the budget to change the costume.) However, it\'s not much of a throw. All \"reappearances\" of the old Cybermen are the new Cybermen looking and acting exactly as they always have. People who really want the old Cybermen back often consider merely saying they\'re back a cop-out, and people who don\'t (or just don\'t care) wonder why bother pretending.

I dunno. Given that New Series Cybermen look a lot more like what most people mean by \"classic\" Cybermen than Tenth Planet Cybermen do, I\'m not sure the appearance means much. If there \'\'hadn\'t\'\' been a Cybus Industries, and we were just told \"This is what Cybermen look like now\", I suspect most people would have just accepted it. It\'s nowhere near as drastic a change as the Silurians got, for example. Moffatt apparently got the budget to redesign them as of \"Nightmare in Silver\", but they still didn\'t look like the old ones because that\'s not what New Who does.

As far as behaviour goes, Moffat\'s Cybermen have spaceships and fought in Cyberwars, just like in the old series, whereas Davies\'s Cybermen showed no signs of ever leaving Earth (although they could jump universes and time travel, so it wasn\'t always the \'\'same\'\' Earth). Beyond that, they\'re stompy metal monsters who hate emotions and convert people into more Cybermen, whatever era you\'re in. (I suppose Moffat\'s Cybermen do say \"Delete!\", because when has Moffat let go of a catchphrase?)