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** \\\"One Bad Seed\\\" manages to have \\\'\\\'two\\\'\\\':
*** Firstly it has the Cutie Mark Crusaders being bullied by Apple Bloom\\\'s cousin Babs, and then learning a lesson about how bullying is wrong, because by retaliating against Babs, they had become bullies themselves. The lesson falls apart because Babs turned to bullying because she was bullied herself just like the CMC, but for her, it\\\'s a FreudianExcuse and not actual wrongdoing (which means it\\\'s a cry for help when someone victimizes people who are weaker than themselves, but it\\\'s morally wrong to fight back against someone who directly abuses you). Added to this is the fact that she abuses Apple Bloom in their own home, so at least \\\'\\\'some\\\'\\\' of the bullying Babs was doing had nothing to do with protecting herself from being bullied her peers.

I\\\'m not sure I can even follow this reasoning. Just because there\\\'s a FreudianExcuse doesn\\\'t mean something is morally right. Neither does pointing out that you shouldn\\\'t punish the perpetrator -- even if you think kids should play judge, jury and executioner to each other, that\\\'s not a universal assumption. Rather, with \\\'\\\'both\\\'\\\' Babs and the CMC we\\\'re shown that they\\\'re doing it for some perceived reason, a different kind of one but showing they\\\'re not doing it because they\\\'re Evil, so how does that go against the moral that they were becoming just like her?

*** Secondly, the episode repeatedly claims that if you\\\'re being bullied you should tell someone and makes it clear \\\'\\\'everything\\\'\\\' would have been averted if the CMC did. Then it ends with Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon bullying the CMC right in front of Applejack, [[AdultsAreUseless who does nothing]], and Babs Seed chasing them away through intimidation, making the lesson come off as \\\"if you\\\'re being bullied, make friends with a toughguy who will defend you\\\".

What Babs \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' in that scene is to threaten to tell their parents, and it totally works, to the point of confirming the aesop in a na´vely strong way.
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** \\\"One Bad Seed\\\" manages to have \\\'\\\'two\\\'\\\':
*** Firstly it has the Cutie Mark Crusaders being bullied by Apple Bloom\\\'s cousin Babs, and then learning a lesson about how bullying is wrong, because by retaliating against Babs, they had become bullies themselves. The lesson falls apart because Babs turned to bullying because she was bullied herself just like the CMC, but for her, it\\\'s a FreudianExcuse and not actual wrongdoing (which means it\\\'s a cry for help when someone victimizes people who are weaker than themselves, but it\\\'s morally wrong to fight back against someone who directly abuses you). Added to this is the fact that she abuses Apple Bloom in their own home, so at least \\\'\\\'some\\\'\\\' of the bullying Babs was doing had nothing to do with protecting herself from being bullied her peers.

I\\\'m not sure I can even follow this reasoning. Just because there\\\'s a FreudianExcuse doesn\\\'t mean something is morally right. Neither does pointing out that you shouldn\\\'t punish the perpetrator -- even if you think kids should play judge, jury and executioner to each other, that\\\'s not a universal assumption. Rather, with \\\'\\\'both\\\'\\\' Babs and the CMC we\\\'re shown that they\\\'re doing it for some perceived reason, a different kind of one but showing they\\\'re not doing it because they\\\'re Evil, so how does that go against the moral that they were becoming just like her?

*** Secondly, the episode repeatedly claims that if you\\\'re being bullied you should tell someone and makes it clear \\\'\\\'everything\\\'\\\' would have been averted if the CMC did. Then it ends with Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon bullying the CMC right in front of Applejack, [[AdultsAreUseless who does nothing]], and Babs Seed chasing them away through intimidation, making the lesson come off as \\\"if you\\\'re being bullied, make friends with a toughguy who will defend you\\\".

What Babs \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' in that scene is to threaten to tell their parents, and it totally works, to the point of confirming the aesop in a na´vely strong way. They weren\\\'t intimidated of her \\\"toughness\\\", though admittedly everyone else seemed to lose their spine in that scene.
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** \\\"One Bad Seed\\\" manages to have \\\'\\\'two\\\'\\\':
*** Firstly it has the Cutie Mark Crusaders being bullied by Apple Bloom\\\'s cousin Babs, and then learning a lesson about how bullying is wrong, because by retaliating against Babs, they had become bullies themselves. The lesson falls apart because Babs turned to bullying because she was bullied herself just like the CMC, but for her, it\\\'s a FreudianExcuse and not actual wrongdoing (which means it\\\'s a cry for help when someone victimizes people who are weaker than themselves, but it\\\'s morally wrong to fight back against someone who directly abuses you). Added to this is the fact that she abuses Apple Bloom in their own home, so at least \\\'\\\'some\\\'\\\' of the bullying Babs was doing had nothing to do with protecting herself from being bullied her peers.

I\\\'m not sure I can even follow this reasoning. Just because there\\\'s a FreudianExcuse doesn\\\'t mean something is morally right. Neither does pointing out that you shouldn\\\'t punish the perpetrator -- even if you think kids should play judge, jury and executioner to each other, that\\\'s not a universal assumption. Rather, with \\\'\\\'both\\\'\\\' Babs and the CMC we\\\'re shown that they\\\'re doing it for some perceived reason, a different kind of one but showing they\\\'re not doing it because they\\\'re Evil, so how does that go against the moral that they were becoming just like her?

*** Secondly, the episode repeatedly claims that if you\\\'re being bullied you should tell someone and makes it clear \\\'\\\'everything\\\'\\\' would have been averted if the CMC did. Then it ends with Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon bullying the CMC right in front of Applejack, [[AdultsAreUseless who does nothing]], and Babs Seed chasing them away through intimidation, making the lesson come off as \\\"if you\\\'re being bullied, make friends with a toughguy who will defend you\\\".

What Babs \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' in that scene is to threaten to tell their parents, and it totally works, to the point of confirming the aesop in a na´vely strong way. They weren\\\'t intimidated of her.
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** \\\"One Bad Seed\\\" manages to have \\\'\\\'two\\\'\\\':
*** Firstly it has the Cutie Mark Crusaders being bullied by Apple Bloom\\\'s cousin Babs, and then learning a lesson about how bullying is wrong, because by retaliating against Babs, they had become bullies themselves. The lesson falls apart because Babs turned to bullying because she was bullied herself just like the CMC, but for her, it\\\'s a FreudianExcuse and not actual wrongdoing (which means it\\\'s a cry for help when someone victimizes people who are weaker than themselves, but it\\\'s morally wrong to fight back against someone who directly abuses you). Added to this is the fact that she abuses Apple Bloom in their own home, so at least \\\'\\\'some\\\'\\\' of the bullying Babs was doing had nothing to do with protecting herself from being bullied her peers.

I\\\'m not sure I can even follow this reasoning. Just because there\\\'s a FreudianExcuse doesn\\\'t mean something is morally right. Neither does pointing out that you shouldn\\\'t punish the perpetrator -- even if you think kids should play judge, jury and executioner to each other, that\\\'s not a universal assumption. Rather, with \\\'\\\'both\\\'\\\' Babs and the CMC we\\\'re shown that they\\\'re doing it for some perceived reason, a different kind of one but showing they\\\'re not doing it because they\\\'re Evil, so how does that go against the moral that they were becoming just like her?

*** Secondly, the episode repeatedly claims that if you\\\'re being bullied you should tell someone and makes it clear \\\'\\\'everything\\\'\\\' would have been averted if the CMC did. Then it ends with Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon bullying the CMC right in front of Applejack, [[AdultsAreUseless who does nothing]], and Babs Seed chasing them away through intimidation, making the lesson come off as \\\"if you\\\'re being bullied, make friends with a toughguy who will defend you\\\".

What Babs \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' in that scene is to threaten to tell their parents, and it totally works, to the point of confirming the aesop in a na´vely strong way. They weren\\\'t intimidated by \\\'\\\'her\\\'\\\'.
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** \\\"One Bad Seed\\\" manages to have \\\'\\\'two\\\'\\\':
*** Firstly it has the Cutie Mark Crusaders being bullied by Apple Bloom\\\'s cousin Babs, and then learning a lesson about how bullying is wrong, because by retaliating against Babs, they had become bullies themselves. The lesson falls apart because Babs turned to bullying because she was bullied herself just like the CMC, but for her, it\\\'s a FreudianExcuse and not actual wrongdoing (which means it\\\'s a cry for help when someone victimizes people who are weaker than themselves, but it\\\'s morally wrong to fight back against someone who directly abuses you). Added to this is the fact that she abuses Apple Bloom in their own home, so at least \\\'\\\'some\\\'\\\' of the bullying Babs was doing had nothing to do with protecting herself from being bullied her peers.

I\\\'m not sure I can even follow this reasoning. Just because there\\\'s a FreudianExcuse doesn\\\'t mean something is morally right. Neither does pointing out that you shouldn\\\'t punish the perpetrator -- even if you think kids should play judge, jury and executioner to each other, that\\\'s not a universal assumption. Rather, with \\\'\\\'both\\\'\\\' Babs and the CMC we\\\'re shown that they\\\'re doing it for some perceived reason, a different kind of one but showing they\\\'re not doing it because they\\\'re Evil, so how does that go against the moral that they were becoming just like her?

*** Secondly, the episode repeatedly claims that if you\\\'re being bullied you should tell someone and makes it clear \\\'\\\'everything\\\'\\\' would have been averted if the CMC did. Then it ends with Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon bullying the CMC right in front of Applejack, [[AdultsAreUseless who does nothing]], and Babs Seed chasing them away through intimidation, making the lesson come off as \\\"if you\\\'re being bullied, make friends with a toughguy who will defend you\\\".

What Babs \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' in that scene is to threaten to tell their parents, and it totally works, almost comically well. They weren\\\'t intimidated by \\\'\\\'her\\\'\\\'.
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** \\\"One Bad Seed\\\" manages to have \\\'\\\'two\\\'\\\':
*** Firstly it has the Cutie Mark Crusaders being bullied by Apple Bloom\\\'s cousin Babs, and then learning a lesson about how bullying is wrong, because by retaliating against Babs, they had become bullies themselves. The lesson falls apart because Babs turned to bullying because she was bullied herself just like the CMC, but for her, it\\\'s a FreudianExcuse and not actual wrongdoing (which means it\\\'s a cry for help when someone victimizes people who are weaker than themselves, but it\\\'s morally wrong to fight back against someone who directly abuses you). Added to this is the fact that she abuses Apple Bloom in their own home, so at least \\\'\\\'some\\\'\\\' of the bullying Babs was doing had nothing to do with protecting herself from being bullied her peers.

I\\\'m not sure I can even follow this reasoning. Just because there\\\'s a FreudianExcuse doesn\\\'t mean something is morally right. Neither does pointing out that you shouldn\\\'t punish the perpetrator -- even if you think kids should play judge, jury and executioner to each other, that\\\'s not a universal assumption. Rather, with \\\'\\\'both\\\'\\\' Babs and the CMC we\\\'re shown that they\\\'re doing it for some perceived reason, a different kind of one but showing they\\\'re not doing it because they\\\'re Evil, so how does that go against the moral that they were becoming just like her?

*** Secondly, the episode repeatedly claims that if you\\\'re being bullied you should tell someone and makes it clear \\\'\\\'everything\\\'\\\' would have been averted if the CMC did. Then it ends with Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon bullying the CMC right in front of Applejack, [[AdultsAreUseless who does nothing]], and Babs Seed chasing them away through intimidation, making the lesson come off as \\\"if you\\\'re being bullied, make friends with a toughguy who will defend you\\\".

What Babs \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' in that scene is to threaten to tell their parents, and it totally works, almost comically well.
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** \\\"One Bad Seed\\\" manages to have \\\'\\\'two\\\'\\\':
*** Firstly it has the Cutie Mark Crusaders being bullied by Apple Bloom\\\'s cousin Babs, and then learning a lesson about how bullying is wrong, because by retaliating against Babs, they had become bullies themselves. The lesson falls apart because Babs turned to bullying because she was bullied herself just like the CMC, but for her, it\\\'s a FreudianExcuse and not actual wrongdoing (which means it\\\'s a cry for help when someone victimizes people who are weaker than themselves, but it\\\'s morally wrong to fight back against someone who directly abuses you). Added to this is the fact that she abuses Apple Bloom in their own home, so at least \\\'\\\'some\\\'\\\' of the bullying Babs was doing had nothing to do with protecting herself from being bullied her peers.

I\\\'m not sure I can even follow this reasoning. Just because there\\\'s a FreudianExcuse doesn\\\'t mean something is morally right. Neither does pointing out that you shouldn\\\'t punish the perpetrator -- even if you think kids should play judge, jury and executioner to each other, that\\\'s not a universal assumption. Rather, with \\\'\\\'both\\\'\\\' Babs and the CMC we\\\'re shown that they\\\'re doing it for some perceived reason, even if it\\\'s a different kind of one, so how does that go against the moral that they were becoming just like her?

*** Secondly, the episode repeatedly claims that if you\\\'re being bullied you should tell someone and makes it clear \\\'\\\'everything\\\'\\\' would have been averted if the CMC did. Then it ends with Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon bullying the CMC right in front of Applejack, [[AdultsAreUseless who does nothing]], and Babs Seed chasing them away through intimidation, making the lesson come off as \\\"if you\\\'re being bullied, make friends with a toughguy who will defend you\\\".

What Babs \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' in that scene is to threaten to tell their parents, and it totally works, almost comically well.
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** \\\"One Bad Seed\\\" manages to have \\\'\\\'two\\\'\\\':
*** Firstly it has the Cutie Mark Crusaders being bullied by Apple Bloom\\\'s cousin Babs, and then learning a lesson about how bullying is wrong, because by retaliating against Babs, they had become bullies themselves. The lesson falls apart because Babs turned to bullying because she was bullied herself just like the CMC, but for her, it\\\'s a FreudianExcuse and not actual wrongdoing (which means it\\\'s a cry for help when someone victimizes people who are weaker than themselves, but it\\\'s morally wrong to fight back against someone who directly abuses you). Added to this is the fact that she abuses Apple Bloom in their own home, so at least \\\'\\\'some\\\'\\\' of the bullying Babs was doing had nothing to do with protecting herself from being bullied her peers.

I\\\'m not sure I can even follow this reasoning. Just because there\\\'s a FreudianExcuse doesn\\\'t mean something is morally right. Neither does pointing out that you shouldn\\\'t punish the perpetrator -- it\\\'s not right for kids to be judge, jury and executioner. Rather, with \\\'\\\'both\\\'\\\' Babs and the CMC we\\\'re shown that they\\\'re doing it for some perceived reason, even if it\\\'s a different kind of one, so how does that go against the moral that they were becoming just like her?

*** Secondly, the episode repeatedly claims that if you\\\'re being bullied you should tell someone and makes it clear \\\'\\\'everything\\\'\\\' would have been averted if the CMC did. Then it ends with Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon bullying the CMC right in front of Applejack, [[AdultsAreUseless who does nothing]], and Babs Seed chasing them away through intimidation, making the lesson come off as \\\"if you\\\'re being bullied, make friends with a toughguy who will defend you\\\".

What Babs \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' in that scene is to threaten to tell their parents, and it totally works, almost comically well.
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The biggest distinction is that ascended characters can still be considered \\\"alive\\\", in that they can still interact with the mortal world to varying degrees and still have their soul or whatever tether held their body to the physical world. Death is also generally not voluntary, and even when it is it\\\'s considered an inevitable fate to all living things rather than something that only exceptional individuals ever manage to reach. Ascension is generally the result of some magical artifact, millions of years of evolution, or some otherworldly power and requires a great deal of effort to achieve.

Practically speaking, ascended characters usually get all sorts of godlike/reality warping powers (think the ascended Bhaalspawn in Baldur\\\'s Gate or Q in Star Trek) while dead people are just... well... ghosts.
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