Discussion History VideoGame / TheNightOfTheRabbit

I feel like I\\\'m not communicating clearly. As it stands, Informed Attractiveness isn\\\'t a particularly noteworthy trope, AND it doesn\\\'t fit thematically with it\\\'s purported super trope, InformedAttribute. To qualify as Informed Attribute, the audience must be explicitly told a person, place or thing has possesses an attribute, which is in no way supported by the remainder of the work. If the person, place or thing demonstrably DOES have that attribute, it\\\'s no longer Informed Attribute. It may be TakeOurWordForIt, or CaptainObvious or ChekhovsSkill, but it it isn\\\'t Informed Attribute. Of the 18 tropes listed under IA, 16 of them are similarly falsifiable. For most of them, it\\\'s some version of \\\"If the person/place/thing actually possesses whatever it\\\'s supposed to, it\\\'s not this trope.\\\" JD and Turk don\\\'t have an InformedFriendship for all one of the very first lines is \\\"Chris Turk is my best friend.\\\" \\\'\\\'Series/{{Castle}}\\\'\\\' clearly takes place in [[InformedLocation New York]] from context and establishing shots as well as explicit statements. The two that don\\\'t, InformedEquipment and Informed Attractiveness, simply don\\\'t fit with the rest in any meaningful way. (As an aside, I feel like Attribute only exists as an umbrella for a collection of tropes that don\\\'t really have all at much to do with each other, but whatever) As we\\\'ve cleared up above, it doesn\\\'t matter if the character is demonstrably attractive, someone calling attention to it apparently invokes the trope. I find it particularly telling that [[TheWheelOfTime Lanfear]] is an example. Yes, she\\\'s described as the most captivating woman alive. And drives every man who sees her to distraction, even when they know who she is, and makes ever woman who sees her feel self conscious. That\\\'s pretty demonstrative. I think the trope needs to be modified to include some form of \\\"unless it\\\'s demonstrated,\\\" which will necessarily make is YMMV for live action media for sure, and possibly all visual media. Again, as it is, it\\\'s a nothing trope. We might as well make Informed Gender, Informed Eye Color, Informed Hair Color etc al. At an minimum, and if nothing else, it should be removed from the Informed Attribute family.

I feel like I\\\'m not communicating clearly. As it stands, Informed Attractiveness isn\\\'t a particularly noteworthy trope, AND it doesn\\\'t fit thematically with it\\\'s purported super trope, InformedAttribute. To qualify as Informed Attribute, the audience must be explicitly told a person, place or thing has possesses an attribute, which is in no way supported by the remainder of the work. If the person, place or thing demonstrably DOES have that attribute, it\\\'s no longer Informed Attribute. It may be TakeOurWordForIt, or CaptainObvious or ChekhovsSkill, but it it isn\\\'t Informed Attribute. Of the 18 tropes listed under IA, 16 of them are similarly falsifiable. For most of them, it\\\'s some version of \\\"If the person/place/thing actually possesses whatever it\\\'s supposed to, it\\\'s not this trope.\\\" [[\\\'\\\'Series/{{Scrubs}} JD and Turk\\\'\\\' JD and Turk]] don\\\'t have an InformedFriendship for all one of the very first lines is \\\"Chris Turk is my best friend.\\\" \\\'\\\'Series/{{Castle}}\\\'\\\' clearly takes place in [[InformedLocation New York]] from context and establishing shots as well as explicit statements. The two that don\\\'t, InformedEquipment and Informed Attractiveness, simply don\\\'t fit with the rest in any meaningful way. (As an aside, I feel like Attribute only exists as an umbrella for a collection of tropes that don\\\'t really have all at much to do with each other, but whatever) As we\\\'ve cleared up above, it doesn\\\'t matter if the character is demonstrably attractive, someone calling attention to it apparently invokes the trope. I find it particularly telling that [[TheWheelOfTime Lanfear]] is an example. Yes, she\\\'s described as the most captivating woman alive. And drives every man who sees her to distraction, even when they know who she is, and makes ever woman who sees her feel self conscious. That\\\'s pretty demonstrative. I think the trope needs to be modified to include some form of \\\"unless it\\\'s demonstrated,\\\" which will necessarily make is YMMV for live action media for sure, and possibly all visual media. Again, as it is, it\\\'s a nothing trope. We might as well make Informed Gender, Informed Eye Color, Informed Hair Color etc al. At an minimum, and if nothing else, it should be removed from the Informed Attribute family.

I feel like I\\\'m not communicating clearly. As it stands, Informed Attractiveness isn\\\'t a particularly noteworthy trope, AND it doesn\\\'t fit thematically with it\\\'s purported super trope, InformedAttribute. To qualify as Informed Attribute, the audience must be explicitly told a person, place or thing has possesses an attribute, which is in no way supported by the remainder of the work. If the person, place or thing demonstrably DOES have that attribute, it\\\'s no longer Informed Attribute. It may be TakeOurWordForIt, or CaptainObvious or ChekhovsSkill, but it it isn\\\'t Informed Attribute. Of the 18 tropes listed under IA, 16 of them are similarly falsifiable. For most of them, it\\\'s some version of \\\"If the person/place/thing actually possesses whatever it\\\'s supposed to, it\\\'s not this trope.\\\" [[\\\'\\\'Series/{{Scrubs}}\\\'\\\' JD and Turk]] don\\\'t have an InformedFriendship for all one of the very first lines is \\\"Chris Turk is my best friend.\\\" \\\'\\\'Series/{{Castle}}\\\'\\\' clearly takes place in [[InformedLocation New York]] from context and establishing shots as well as explicit statements. The two that don\\\'t, InformedEquipment and Informed Attractiveness, simply don\\\'t fit with the rest in any meaningful way. (As an aside, I feel like Attribute only exists as an umbrella for a collection of tropes that don\\\'t really have all at much to do with each other, but whatever) As we\\\'ve cleared up above, it doesn\\\'t matter if the character is demonstrably attractive, someone calling attention to it apparently invokes the trope. I find it particularly telling that [[TheWheelOfTime Lanfear]] is an example. Yes, she\\\'s described as the most captivating woman alive. And drives every man who sees her to distraction, even when they know who she is, and makes ever woman who sees her feel self conscious. That\\\'s pretty demonstrative. I think the trope needs to be modified to include some form of \\\"unless it\\\'s demonstrated,\\\" which will necessarily make is YMMV for live action media for sure, and possibly all visual media. Again, as it is, it\\\'s a nothing trope. We might as well make Informed Gender, Informed Eye Color, Informed Hair Color etc al. At an minimum, and if nothing else, it should be removed from the Informed Attribute family.

I feel like I\\\'m not communicating clearly. As it stands, Informed Attractiveness isn\\\'t a particularly noteworthy trope, AND it doesn\\\'t fit thematically with it\\\'s purported super trope, InformedAttribute. To qualify as Informed Attribute, the audience must be explicitly told a person, place or thing has possesses an attribute, which is in no way supported by the remainder of the work. If the person, place or thing demonstrably DOES have that attribute, it\\\'s no longer Informed Attribute. It may be TakeOurWordForIt, or CaptainObvious or ChekhovsSkill, but it it isn\\\'t Informed Attribute. Of the 18 tropes listed under IA, 16 of them are similarly falsifiable. For most of them, it\\\'s some version of \\\"If the person/place/thing actually possesses whatever it\\\'s supposed to, it\\\'s not this trope.\\\" [[ScrubsSeries JD and Turk]] don\\\'t have an InformedFriendship for all one of the very first lines is \\\"Chris Turk is my best friend.\\\" \\\'\\\'Series/{{Castle}}\\\'\\\' clearly takes place in [[InformedLocation New York]] from context and establishing shots as well as explicit statements. The two that don\\\'t, InformedEquipment and Informed Attractiveness, simply don\\\'t fit with the rest in any meaningful way. (As an aside, I feel like Attribute only exists as an umbrella for a collection of tropes that don\\\'t really have all at much to do with each other, but whatever) As we\\\'ve cleared up above, it doesn\\\'t matter if the character is demonstrably attractive, someone calling attention to it apparently invokes the trope. I find it particularly telling that [[TheWheelOfTime Lanfear]] is an example. Yes, she\\\'s described as the most captivating woman alive. And drives every man who sees her to distraction, even when they know who she is, and makes ever woman who sees her feel self conscious. That\\\'s pretty demonstrative. I think the trope needs to be modified to include some form of \\\"unless it\\\'s demonstrated,\\\" which will necessarily make is YMMV for live action media for sure, and possibly all visual media. Again, as it is, it\\\'s a nothing trope. We might as well make Informed Gender, Informed Eye Color, Informed Hair Color etc al. At an minimum, and if nothing else, it should be removed from the Informed Attribute family.

I feel like I\\\'m not communicating clearly. As it stands, Informed Attractiveness isn\\\'t a particularly noteworthy trope, AND it doesn\\\'t fit thematically with it\\\'s purported super trope, InformedAttribute. To qualify as Informed Attribute, the audience must be explicitly told a person, place or thing has possesses an attribute, which is in no way supported by the remainder of the work. If the person, place or thing demonstrably DOES have that attribute, it\\\'s no longer Informed Attribute. It may be TakeOurWordForIt, or CaptainObvious or ChekhovsSkill, but it it isn\\\'t Informed Attribute. Of the 18 tropes listed under IA, 16 of them are similarly falsifiable. For most of them, it\\\'s some version of \\\"If the person/place/thing actually possesses whatever it\\\'s supposed to, it\\\'s not this trope.\\\" [[ScrubsSeries JD and Turk]] don\\\'t have an InformedFriendship for all one of the very first lines is \\\"Chris Turk is my best friend.\\\" SeriesCastle clearly takes place in [[InformedLocation New York]] from context and establishing shots as well as explicit statements. The two that don\\\'t, InformedEquipment and Informed Attractiveness, simply don\\\'t fit with the rest in any meaningful way. (As an aside, I feel like Attribute only exists as an umbrella for a collection of tropes that don\\\'t really have all at much to do with each other, but whatever) As we\\\'ve cleared up above, it doesn\\\'t matter if the character is demonstrably attractive, someone calling attention to it apparently invokes the trope. I find it particularly telling that [[TheWheelOfTime Lanfear]] is an example. Yes, she\\\'s described as the most captivating woman alive. And drives every man who sees her to distraction, even when they know who she is, and makes ever woman who sees her feel self conscious. That\\\'s pretty demonstrative. I think the trope needs to be modified to include some form of \\\"unless it\\\'s demonstrated,\\\" which will necessarily make is YMMV for live action media for sure, and possibly all visual media. Again, as it is, it\\\'s a nothing trope. We might as well make Informed Gender, Informed Eye Color, Informed Hair Color etc al. At an minimum, and if nothing else, it should be removed from the Informed Attribute family.

I feel like I\\\'m not communicating clearly. As it stands, Informed Attractiveness isn\\\'t a particularly noteworthy trope, AND it doesn\\\'t fit thematically with it\\\'s purported super trope, InformedAttribute. To qualify as Informed Attribute, the audience must be explicitly told a person, place or thing has possesses an attribute, which is in no way supported by the remainder of the work. If the person, place or thing demonstrably DOES have that attribute, it\\\'s no longer Informed Attribute. It may be TakeOurWordForIt, or CaptainObvious or ChekhovsSkill, but it it isn\\\'t Informed Attribute. Of the 18 tropes listed under IA, 16 of them are similarly falsifiable. For most of them, it\\\'s some version of \\\"If the person/place/thing actually possesses whatever it\\\'s supposed to, it\\\'s not this trope.\\\" [[ScrubsSeries JD and Turk]] don\\\'t have an InformedFriendship for all one of the very first lines is \\\"Chris Turk is my best friend.\\\" Series/Castle clearly takes place in [[InformedLocation New York]] from context and establishing shots as well as explicit statements. The two that don\\\'t, InformedEquipment and Informed Attractiveness, simply don\\\'t fit with the rest in any meaningful way. (As an aside, I feel like Attribute only exists as an umbrella for a collection of tropes that don\\\'t really have all at much to do with each other, but whatever) As we\\\'ve cleared up above, it doesn\\\'t matter if the character is demonstrably attractive, someone calling attention to it apparently invokes the trope. I find it particularly telling that [[TheWheelOfTime Lanfear]] is an example. Yes, she\\\'s described as the most captivating woman alive. And drives every man who sees her to distraction, even when they know who she is, and makes ever woman who sees her feel self conscious. That\\\'s pretty demonstrative. I think the trope needs to be modified to include some form of \\\"unless it\\\'s demonstrated,\\\" which will necessarily make is YMMV for live action media for sure, and possibly all visual media. Again, as it is, it\\\'s a nothing trope. We might as well make Informed Gender, Informed Eye Color, Informed Hair Color etc al. At an minimum, and if nothing else, it should be removed from the Informed Attribute family.

I feel like I\\\'m not communicating clearly. As it stands, Informed Attractiveness isn\\\'t a particularly noteworthy trope, AND it doesn\\\'t fit thematically with it\\\'s purported super trope, InformedAttribute. To qualify as Informed Attribute, the audience must be explicitly told a person, place or thing has possesses an attribute, which is in no way supported by the remainder of the work. If the person, place or thing demonstrably DOES have that attribute, it\\\'s no longer Informed Attribute. It may be TakeOurWordForIt, or CaptainObvious or ChekhovsSkill, but it it isn\\\'t Informed Attribute. Of the 18 tropes listed under IA, 16 of them are similarly falsifiable. For most of them, it\\\'s some version of \\\"If the person/place/thing actually possesses whatever it\\\'s supposed to, it\\\'s not this trope.\\\" [[ScrubsSeries JD and Turk]] don\\\'t have an InformedFriendship for all one of the very first lines is \\\"Chris Turk is my best friend.\\\" CastleSeries clearly takes place in [[InformedLocation New York]] from context and establishing shots as well as explicit statements. The two that don\\\'t, InformedEquipment and Informed Attractiveness, simply don\\\'t fit with the rest in any meaningful way. (As an aside, I feel like Attribute only exists as an umbrella for a collection of tropes that don\\\'t really have all at much to do with each other, but whatever) As we\\\'ve cleared up above, it doesn\\\'t matter if the character is demonstrably attractive, someone calling attention to it apparently invokes the trope. I find it particularly telling that [[TheWheelOfTime Lanfear]] is an example. Yes, she\\\'s described as the most captivating woman alive. And drives every man who sees her to distraction, even when they know who she is, and makes ever woman who sees her feel self conscious. That\\\'s pretty demonstrative. I think the trope needs to be modified to include some form of \\\"unless it\\\'s demonstrated,\\\" which will necessarily make is YMMV for live action media for sure, and possibly all visual media. Again, as it is, it\\\'s a nothing trope. We might as well make Informed Gender, Informed Eye Color, Informed Hair Color etc al. At an minimum, and if nothing else, it should be removed from the Informed Attribute family.

I feel like I\\\'m not communicating clearly. As it stands, Informed Attractiveness isn\\\'t a particularly noteworthy trope, AND it doesn\\\'t fit thematically with it\\\'s purported super trope, InformedAttribute. To qualify as Informed Attribute, the audience must be explicitly told a person, place or thing has possesses an attribute, which is in no way supported by the remainder of the work. If the person, place or thing demonstrably DOES have that attribute, it\\\'s no longer Informed Attribute. It may be TakeOurWordForIt, or CaptainObvious or ChekovsSkill, but it it isn\\\'t Informed Attribute. Of the 18 tropes listed under IA, 16 of them are similarly falsifiable. For most of them, it\\\'s some version of \\\"If the person/place/thing actually possesses whatever it\\\'s supposed to, it\\\'s not this trope.\\\" [[Scrubs JD and Turk]] don\\\'t have an InformedFriendship for all one of the very first lines is \\\"Chris Turk is my best friend.\\\" Castle clearly takes place in [[InformedLocation New York]] from context and establishing shots as well as explicit statements. The two that don\\\'t, InformedEquipment and Informed Attractiveness, simply don\\\'t fit with the rest in any meaningful way. (As an aside, I feel like Attribute only exists as an umbrella for a collection of tropes that don\\\'t really have all at much to do with each other, but whatever) As we\\\'ve cleared up above, it doesn\\\'t matter if the character is demonstrably attractive, someone calling attention to it apparently invokes the trope. I find it particularly telling that [[TheWheelOfTime Lanfear]] is an example. Yes, she\\\'s described as the most captivating woman alive. And drives every man who sees her to distraction, even when they know who she is, and makes ever woman who sees her feel self conscious. That\\\'s pretty demonstrative. I think the trope needs to be modified to include some form of \\\"unless it\\\'s demonstrated,\\\" which will necessarily make is YMMV for live action media for sure, and possibly all visual media. Again, as it is, it\\\'s a nothing trope. We might as well make Informed Gender, Informed Eye Color, Informed Hair Color etc al. At an minimum, and if nothing else, it should be removed from the Informed Attribute family.