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And you\'re claiming his FreudianExcuse to be \
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And you\\\'re claiming his FreudianExcuse to be \\\"insufficient\\\" (P.S. that doesn\\\'t mean it\\\'s enough to \\\'\\\'completely excuse\\\'\\\', but rather it\\\'s really more them thinking of a way to excuse themselves), when you\\\'re really just presenting a horribly simplified and one-sided view of it to make his ideas seem as ridiculous as possible (for that matter, the whole article has an annoying amount of \\\"Sasuke is so stupid\\\" shoehorned into it).
That would be like if I tried to claim Gaara\\\'s history is \\\"My mom died, my dad is negligent, my uncle hated me, and nobody liked me so I think it\\\'s alright to violently murder anyone who displeases me\\\".
Furthermore, as Gilphon said, if we\\\'re even \\\'\\\'discussing\\\'\\\' whether or not he could be sympathized with [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement then he really shouldn\\\'t be listed as such]]. I don\\\'t care if he is that way in your book, that\\\'s \\\'\\\'far\\\'\\\' from the consensus (among people who actually use that term right).
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#Again, what has he actually \\\'\\\'accomplished\\\'\\\' that puts him farther beyond redemption than Gaara, Nagato, or even Zabuza?
#Being shown as \\\"completely unsympathetic\\\" for about the last 8 of \\\'\\\'487\\\'\\\'\\\' chapters isn\\\'t that freaking huge of an indicator.
#I don\\\'t give a shit how evil Hidan was, being PlayedForLaughs automatically disqualifies you as being a CompleteMonster. You\\\'re not even paying attention to \\\'\\\'the actual definition of the trope\\\'\\\'. If it just meant \\\"a very evil villain\\\" then it would include a large number of characters which are more like {{Heroic Sociopath}}s. It\\\'s not just about being evil, it\\\'s about being portrayed in a completely serious manner as one who does many outright sickening acts.
#The same goes for Madara. Of course he\\\'s not a sympathetic character, but it\\\'s not like he\\\'s never done anything that\\\'s entertaining or has had much of what he\\\'s done shown in enough detail to make him look that bad (really, he seems more like a typical villain in this regard, and not every completely evil villain is). There are plenty that consider him more of a MagnificentBastard.
That would be like if I tried to claim Gaara\\\'s history is \\\"My mom died, my dad is negligent, my uncle hated me, and nobody liked me so I think it\\\'s alright to violently murder anyone who displeases me\\\".
Furthermore, as Gilphon said, if we\\\'re even \\\'\\\'discussing\\\'\\\' whether or not he could be sympathized with [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement then he really shouldn\\\'t be listed as such]]. I don\\\'t care if he is that way in your book, that\\\'s \\\'\\\'far\\\'\\\' from the consensus (among people who actually use that term right).
@75.102.128.133:
#Again, what has he actually \\\'\\\'accomplished\\\'\\\' that puts him farther beyond redemption than Gaara, Nagato, or even Zabuza?
#Being shown as \\\"completely unsympathetic\\\" for about the last 8 of \\\'\\\'487\\\'\\\'\\\' chapters isn\\\'t that freaking huge of an indicator.
#I don\\\'t give a shit how evil Hidan was, being PlayedForLaughs automatically disqualifies you as being a CompleteMonster. You\\\'re not even paying attention to \\\'\\\'the actual definition of the trope\\\'\\\'. If it just meant \\\"a very evil villain\\\" then it would include a large number of characters which are more like {{Heroic Sociopath}}s. It\\\'s not just about being evil, it\\\'s about being portrayed in a completely serious manner as one who does many outright sickening acts.
#The same goes for Madara. Of course he\\\'s not a sympathetic character, but it\\\'s not like he\\\'s never done anything that\\\'s entertaining or has had much of what he\\\'s done shown in enough detail to make him look that bad (really, he seems more like a typical villain in this regard, and not every completely evil villain is). There are plenty that consider him more of a MagnificentBastard.
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And you\'re claiming his FreudianExcuse to be \
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And you\\\'re claiming his FreudianExcuse to be \\\"insufficient\\\" (P.S. that doesn\\\'t mean it\\\'s enough to \\\'\\\'completely excuse\\\'\\\', but rather it\\\'s really more them thinking of a way to excuse themselves), when you\\\'re really just presenting a horribly simplified and one-sided view of it to make his ideas seem as ridiculous as possible (for that matter, the whole article has an annoying amount of \\\"Sasuke is so stupid\\\" shoehorned into it).
That would be like if I tried to claim Gaara\\\'s history is \\\"My mom died, my dad is negligent, my uncle hated me, and nobody liked me so I think it\\\'s alright to violently murder anyone who displeases me\\\".
Furthermore, as Gilphon said, if we\\\'re even \\\'\\\'discussing\\\'\\\' whether or not he could be sympathized with [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement then he really shouldn\\\'t be listed as such]]. I don\\\'t care if he is that way in your book, that\\\'s \\\'\\\'far\\\'\\\' from the consensus (among people who actually use that term right).
@75.102.128.133:
#Again, what has he actually \\\'\\\'accomplished\\\'\\\' that puts him farther beyond redemption than Gaara, Nagato, or even Zabuza?
#Being shown as \\\"completely unsympathetic\\\" for about the last 8 of \\\'\\\'487\\\'\\\'\\\' chapters isn\\\'t that freaking huge of an indicator.
#I don\\\'t give a shit how evil Hidan was, being PlayedForLaughs automatically disqualifies you as being a CompleteMonster. You\\\'re not even paying attention to \\\'\\\'the actual definition of the trope\\\'\\\'. If it just meant \\\"a very evil villain\\\" then it would include a large number of characters which are more like {{Heroic Sociopath}}s. It\\\'s not just about being evil, it\\\'s about being portrayed in a completely serious manner as one who does many outright sickening acts.
#The same goes for Madara. Of course he\\\'s not a sympathetic character, but it\\\'s not like he\\\'s never done anything that\\\'s entertaining or had anything he\\\'s
That would be like if I tried to claim Gaara\\\'s history is \\\"My mom died, my dad is negligent, my uncle hated me, and nobody liked me so I think it\\\'s alright to violently murder anyone who displeases me\\\".
Furthermore, as Gilphon said, if we\\\'re even \\\'\\\'discussing\\\'\\\' whether or not he could be sympathized with [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement then he really shouldn\\\'t be listed as such]]. I don\\\'t care if he is that way in your book, that\\\'s \\\'\\\'far\\\'\\\' from the consensus (among people who actually use that term right).
@75.102.128.133:
#Again, what has he actually \\\'\\\'accomplished\\\'\\\' that puts him farther beyond redemption than Gaara, Nagato, or even Zabuza?
#Being shown as \\\"completely unsympathetic\\\" for about the last 8 of \\\'\\\'487\\\'\\\'\\\' chapters isn\\\'t that freaking huge of an indicator.
#I don\\\'t give a shit how evil Hidan was, being PlayedForLaughs automatically disqualifies you as being a CompleteMonster. You\\\'re not even paying attention to \\\'\\\'the actual definition of the trope\\\'\\\'. If it just meant \\\"a very evil villain\\\" then it would include a large number of characters which are more like {{Heroic Sociopath}}s. It\\\'s not just about being evil, it\\\'s about being portrayed in a completely serious manner as one who does many outright sickening acts.
#The same goes for Madara. Of course he\\\'s not a sympathetic character, but it\\\'s not like he\\\'s never done anything that\\\'s entertaining or had anything he\\\'s
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Pulled the old trope image because it was attracting a bit too much {{natter}}. To wit:
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And put a shot of Kaworu from the new \'\'RebuildOfEvangelion\'\' trailer in place. I hope we can all agree on him to be the quintessential white-haired (okay, DependingOnTheArtist) anime bishonen?
And put a shot of Kaworu from the new \'\'RebuildOfEvangelion\'\' trailer in place. I hope we can all agree on him to be the quintessential white-haired (okay, DependingOnTheArtist) anime bishonen?
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Pulled the old trope image because it was attracting a bit too much {{natter}} and put a shot of Kaworu from the new \\\'\\\'RebuildOfEvangelion\\\'\\\' trailer in place. I hope we can all agree on him to be the quintessential white-haired (okay, DependingOnTheArtist) anime bishonen?
