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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: In the first movie, in the midst of all the comedy, there is one serious scene in which Winston and Ray discuss biblical prophecy -- particularly a line about \\\"the dead rising from the grave\\\" -- but Ray dismisses it as just one example in a long line of ancient myths. When Winston suggests that the increased paranormal activity is because the dead \\\'\\\'have\\\'\\\' been rising from the grave, both men grow uncomfortable and drop the subject. While this scene ostensibly validates a mainstream Christian view, take note that the only god who \\\'\\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\'\\\' makes an appearance in the movie is Gozer, who is \\\'\\\'Sumerian\\\'\\\'. The implications of this are never discussed.

It was removed by Fighteer, who says: \\\"that\\\'s one hell of a stretch. and it doesn\\\'t fit the trope at all.\\\" I believe that, on the contrary, it \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit the trope, given that Christian MoralWatchdogs in the United States would complain a great deal if they realized the possible implications underlying the plot of the movie: that Christianity may possibly be wrong, that other religions might be right, or that there may be some kind of pantheon of ancient gods. In any case, Ghostbusters has a fairly anti-theistic message (considering the boys \\\'\\\'defeat a god\\\'\\\' with nothing but their technology), but somehow the subtle background to Ghostbusters went unnoticed by the MoralWatchdogs of its time. I believe the scene with Winston and Ray (and a later scene at the mayor\\\'s office) mistakenly led contemporary MoralWatchdogs to believe the movie had a Christian message -- when in reality the message was the complete opposite.

This article has more writing than I\\\'ve done on the subject: http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/06/10/there-is-no-religious-undertone-only-zuul/

I believe the trope should be added as a valid example of GettingCrapPastTheRadar.

* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: In the first movie, in the midst of all the comedy, there is one serious scene in which Winston and Ray discuss biblical prophecy -- particularly a line about \\\"the dead rising from the grave\\\" -- but Ray dismisses it as just one example in a long line of ancient myths. When Winston suggests that the increased paranormal activity is because the dead \\\'\\\'have\\\'\\\' been rising from the grave, both men grow uncomfortable and drop the subject. While this scene ostensibly validates a mainstream Christian view, take note that the only god who \\\'\\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\'\\\' makes an appearance in the movie is Gozer, who is \\\'\\\'Sumerian\\\'\\\'. The implications of this are never discussed.

It was removed by Fighteer, who says: \\\"that\\\'s one hell of a stretch. and it doesn\\\'t fit the trope at all.\\\" I believe that, on the contrary, it \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit the trope, given that Christian MoralWatchdogs in the United States would complain a great deal if they realized the possible implications underlying the plot of the movie: that Christianity may possibly be wrong, that other religions might be right, or that there may be some kind of pantheon of ancient gods. In any case, Ghostbusters has a fairly anti-theistic message (considering the boys \\\'\\\'defeat a god\\\'\\\' with nothing but their technology), but somehow the subtle background to Ghostbusters went unnoticed by the MoralWatchdogs of its time. I believe the scene with Winston and Ray (and a later scene at the mayor\\\'s office) mistakenly led contemporary MoralWatchdogs to believe the movie had a Christian message -- when in reality the message was the complete opposite.

This article has more writing than I\\\'ve done on the subject: http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/06/10/there-is-no-religious-undertone-only-zuul/

I believe the trope should be added as a valid example of GettingCrapPasttheRadar.

* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: In the first movie, in the midst of all the comedy, there is one serious scene in which Winston and Ray discuss biblical prophecy -- particularly a line about \\\"the dead rising from the grave\\\" -- but Ray dismisses it as just one example in a long line of ancient myths. When Winston suggests that the increased paranormal activity is because the dead \\\'\\\'have\\\'\\\' been rising from the grave, both men grow uncomfortable and drop the subject. While this scene ostensibly validates a mainstream Christian view, take note that the only god who \\\'\\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\'\\\' makes an appearance in the movie is Gozer, who is \\\'\\\'Sumerian\\\'\\\'. The implications of this are never discussed.

It was removed by Fighteer, who says: \\\"that\\\'s one hell of a stretch. and it doesn\\\'t fit the trope at all.\\\" I believe that, on the contrary, it \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit the trope, given that Christian MoralWatchdogs in the United States would complain a great deal if they realized the possible implications underlying the plot of the movie: that Christianity may possibly be wrong, that other religions might be right, or that there may be some kind of pantheon of ancient gods. In any case, Ghostbusters has a fairly anti-theistic message (considering the boys \\\'\\\'defeat a god\\\'\\\' with nothing but their technology), but somehow the subtle background to Ghostbusters went unnoticed by the MoralWatchdogs of its time. I believe the scene with Winston and Ray (and a later scene at the mayor\\\'s office) mistakenly led contemporary MoralWatchdogs to believe the movie had a Christian message -- when in reality the message was the complete opposite.

This article has more writing than I\\\'ve done on the subject: http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/06/10/there-is-no-religious-undertone-only-zuul/

I believe the trope should be added as a valid example of Getting Crap Past the Radar.

* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: In the first movie, in the midst of all the comedy, there is one serious scene in which Winston and Ray discuss biblical prophecy -- particularly a line about \\\"the dead rising from the grave\\\" -- but Ray dismisses it as just one example in a long line of ancient myths. When Winston suggests that the increased paranormal activity is because the dead \\\'\\\'have\\\'\\\' been rising from the grave, both men grow uncomfortable and drop the subject. While this scene ostensibly validates a mainstream Christian view, take note that the only god who \\\'\\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\'\\\' makes an appearance in the movie is Gozer, who is \\\'\\\'Sumerian\\\'\\\'. The implications of this are never discussed.

It was removed by Fighteer, who says: \\\"that\\\'s one hell of a stretch. and it doesn\\\'t fit the trope at all.\\\" I believe that, on the contrary, it \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit the trope, given that Christian MoralWatchdogs in the United States would complain a great deal if they realized the possible implications underlying the plot of the movie: that Christianity may possibly be wrong, that other religions might be right, or that there may be some kind of pantheon of ancient gods. In any case, Ghostbusters has a fairly anti-theistic message (considering the boys \\\'\\\'defeat a god\\\'\\\' with nothing but their technology), but somehow the subtle background to Ghostbusters went unnoticed by the Moral Watchdogs of its time. I believe the scene with Winston and Ray (and a later scene at the mayor\\\'s office) mistakenly led contemporary Moral Watchdogs to believe the movie had a Christian message -- when in reality the message was the complete opposite.

This article has more writing than I\\\'ve done on the subject: http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/06/10/there-is-no-religious-undertone-only-zuul/

I believe the trope should be added as a valid example of Getting Crap Past the Radar.

* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: In the first movie, in the midst of all the comedy, there is one serious scene in which Winston and Ray discuss biblical prophecy -- particularly a line about \\\"the dead rising from the grave\\\" -- but Ray dismisses it as just one example in a long line of ancient myths. When Winston suggests that the increased paranormal activity is because the dead \\\'\\\'have\\\'\\\' been rising from the grave, both men grow uncomfortable and drop the subject. While this scene ostensibly validates a mainstream Christian view, take note that the only god who \\\'\\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\'\\\' makes an appearance in the movie is Gozer, who is \\\'\\\'Sumerian\\\'\\\'. The implications of this are never discussed.

It was removed by Fighteer, who says: \\\"that\\\'s one hell of a stretch. and it doesn\\\'t fit the trope at all.\\\" I believe that, on the contrary, it \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit the trope, given that Christian Moral Watchdogs in the United States would complain a great deal if they realized the possible implications underlying the plot of the movie: that Christianity may possibly be wrong, that other religions might be right, or that there may be some kind of pantheon of ancient gods. In any case, Ghostbusters has a fairly anti-theistic message (considering the boys \\\'\\\'defeat a god\\\'\\\' with nothing but their technology), but somehow the subtle background to Ghostbusters went unnoticed by the Moral Watchdogs of its time. I believe the scene with Winston and Ray (and a later scene at the mayor\\\'s office) mistakenly led contemporary Moral Watchdogs to believe the movie had a Christian message -- when in reality the message was the complete opposite.

This article has more writing than I\\\'ve done on the subject: http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/06/10/there-is-no-religious-undertone-only-zuul/

I believe the trope should be added as a valid example of Getting Crap Past the Radar.

* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: In the first movie, in the midst of all the comedy, there is one serious scene in which Winston and Ray discuss biblical prophecy -- particularly a line about \\\"the dead rising from the grave\\\" -- but Ray dismisses it as just one example in a long line of ancient myths. When Winston suggests that the increased paranormal activity is because the dead \\\'\\\'have\\\'\\\' been rising from the grave, both men grow uncomfortable and drop the subject. While this scene ostensibly validates a mainstream Christian view, take note that the only god who \\\'\\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\'\\\' makes an appearance in the movie is Gozer, who is \\\'\\\'Sumerian\\\'\\\'. The implications of this are never discussed.

It was removed by Fighteer, who says: \\\"that\\\'s one hell of a stretch. and it doesn\\\'t fit the trope at all.\\\" I believe that, on the contrary, it \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit the trope, given that Christian Moral Watchdogs in the United States would complain a great deal if they realized the possible implications underlying the plot of the movie: that Christianity may possibly be wrong, that other religions might be right, or that there may be some kind of pantheon of ancient gods. In any case, Ghostbusters has a fairly anti-theistic message (considering the boys \\\'\\\'defeat a god\\\'\\\' with nothing but their technology), but somehow the subtle background to Ghostbusters went unnoticed by the Moral Watchdogs of its time. I believe the scene with Winston and Ray (and a later scene at the mayor\\\'s office) mistakenly led contemporary Moral Watchdogs to believe the movie had a Christian message -- when in reality the message was the complete opposite.

This article has more writing than I\\\'ve done on the subject: http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/06/10/there-is-no-religious-undertone-only-zuul/

* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: In the first movie, in the midst of all the comedy, there is one serious scene in which Winston and Ray discuss biblical prophecy -- particularly a line about \\\"the dead rising from the grave\\\" -- but Ray dismisses it as just one example in a long line of ancient myths. When Winston suggests that the increased paranormal activity is because the dead \\\'\\\'have\\\'\\\' been rising from the grave, both men grow uncomfortable and drop the subject. While this scene ostensibly validates a mainstream Christian view, take note that the only god who \\\'\\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\'\\\' makes an appearance in the movie is Gozer, who is \\\'\\\'Sumerian\\\'\\\'. The implications of this are never discussed.

It was removed by Fighteer, who says: \\\"that\\\'s one hell of a stretch. and it doesn\\\'t fit the trope at all.\\\" I believe that, on the contrary, it \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' fit the trope, given that Christian Moral Watchdogs in the United States would complain a great deal if they realized the possible implications underlying the plot of the movie: that Christianity may possibly be wrong, that other religions might be right, or that there may be some kind of pantheon of ancient gods. In any case, Ghostbusters has a fairly anti-theistic message (considering the boys \\\'\\\'destroy a god\\\'\\\' with nothing but their technology), but somehow the subtle background to Ghostbusters went unnoticed by the Moral Watchdogs of its time.

This article has more writing than I\\\'ve done on the subject:
http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/06/10/there-is-no-religious-undertone-only-zuul/