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I think an attractive politician who wears colourful outfits is not a seductive Vamp — often a CharacterAsDevice. The dresses are not slinky red ones and they look pink or orange. Misuse -- at least in my book.
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I think an attractive politician who wears colourful outfits is not a seductive Vamp who often should act as CharactersAsDevice. The dresses are not slinky red ones and they look pink or orange. Misuse -- at least in my book.
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Being extremely sexy and seductive is THE defining trait of LadyInRed.
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Being extremely sexy and seductive is THE defining trait of LadyInRed.
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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Udrea Elena Udrea]], Romanian MP and Minister of Tourism. She wears [[http://simioncristian.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/elenaudrea.jpg rather flashy red outfits]] sometimes, including at the [[http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/401/781/10376/5195608/1/base-juramant.jpg second inauguration of President Traian Basescu]], although the yellow light made it appear orange on TV. And she doesn\\\'t shun [[http://simioncristian.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/elena-udrea.jpg pink]], either.
I think an attractive politician who wears colourful outfits is not a seductive Vamp — often a CharacterAsDevice. The dresses are not slinky red ones and they look pink or orange. Misuse -- at least in my book.
!!Removed
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Udrea Elena Udrea]], Romanian MP and Minister of Tourism. She wears [[http://simioncristian.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/elenaudrea.jpg rather flashy red outfits]] sometimes, including at the [[http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/401/781/10376/5195608/1/base-juramant.jpg second inauguration of President Traian Basescu]], although the yellow light made it appear orange on TV. And she doesn\\\'t shun [[http://simioncristian.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/elena-udrea.jpg pink]], either.
I think an attractive politician who wears colourful outfits is not a seductive Vamp — often a CharacterAsDevice. The dresses are not slinky red ones and they look pink or orange. Misuse -- at least in my book.
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First off, google \\\"Blended Goose\\\" and \\\"shitty webcomics\\\" that will take you to tumblr that reveals all the recent \\\"Shredded Moose 2.0\\\" stuff, including the penny arcade forum Brew were all some elaborate trolling scheme based off of using Shredded Mooses reputation to upset people.
I am not Brian Krumm (Trip) or Chris Hall (Brew), Creamy-sama and thank you for at least being polite and going into fine detail why you believe Shredded Moose is a terrible webcomic but I don\\\'t think you have the whole picture. I dug up a whole bunch of SM comics from Something Awful\\\'s archive and it portrayed a far different comic than John Solomon or anyone else will have you believe.
http://imgur.com/a/GiuZW
I payed a lot of money on Something Awful to dig up these comics because I really liked the art contrary to what anyone said about the actual comics. Plus, I wanted to see the reputed \\\"worst webcomic of all time\\\" because I get a lot of ironic enjoyment out of reading bad things. What I found was a man who was misunderstood to the max.
First of all, believe it or not, Brew spent two whole years laboring on his now defunct site. From 2005-07, shreddedmoose.com was just a dream in his head and he built and programmed the whole thing himself. If you look it up on the internet archive, you can see Shredded Moose was a very slick and sophisticated site. Also read a few of his over-the-top libertarian blogs and you can tell by the semi-eloquent wording that Brew is by no means the imbecilic fratboy you portray him as.
The guy, at first, wanted to make a high quality entertainment site, blog and comic for fratboys, libertarians and gamers but did he by any means believe the stuff himself? His background seems a little intelligent for that doesn\\\'t it?
I have never seen the date rape comic honestly, or found it while I was searching the Something Awful archives. But in Brew\\\'s defense, the number one thing you mention is that you never see the actual offense taking place. Its just implied. Top it off with the main character being a dopey fratboy with a hilariously stupid grin and I don\\\'t know how anyone in their right mind ever take it seriously or condemn the entire comic because of it.
Second, who would be stupid enough to have their Mary Sue, self insert reportedly \\\"date rape\\\" someone and not look reprehensible. Are you sure the man wasn\\\'t aiming for satire of asshole fratboys? I\\\'m pretty sure a guy who programmed a whole site and worked in the IT industry would know that it wouldn\\\'t be a good idea to portray himself \\\"date raping\\\" people. There are SEVERAL early Shredded Moose comics that portray Brew as being a drunk, misogynist, someone who\\\'s arrogant and unaware of his moronicness and so on. I can find plenty of comics where Brew is being beaten up, acting idiotically, humiliated and even getting called out for his behavior. The comic is a lot more self aware and moral than you give it credit for. Also, I have NEVER seen a comic that portrays women as bad, they always seem to be Brew\\\'s victims. Never once does the comic actually attack them as people, it never calls them evil, or bitches or manipulative. Its always Brew who is lusting after them and harassing them. And guess what, all this mistreatment of women, leads to Monique giving him a taste of his own medicine, the two end up having a hate-love relationship that ends with Brew reflecting on how Monique saved his life rather than letting him get killed, and through her love he realizes that women are human and capable of love too. Then he starts treating all the women in his life better. Brew, the evil fratboy everyone considers him realized that love was the answer rather than hate or disdain for anyone.
When criticized however for making his character a \\\"Mary Brue\\\", Brew began developing his characters and showing the world his character wasn\\\'t infallible. We get to see why Brew\\\'s behaves so poorly. He\\\'s a spoiled aristocrat with daddy issues, in which his dad was either cruel to him or straight up ignored him while mistreating Brew\\\'s mother. Brew saw this behavior and started to emulate his father.
Monique too is given a backstory that shows what a strong, caring mother she grew up to be in spite of it all. Witnessing her mothers rape and living as an orphan lead her to being tough and raising herself to become an actually strong, empowered female character. She despises Brew not because she\\\'s a radical feminazi but because she\\\'s worried he\\\'ll become like her mothers rapists if he keeps going down that path.
Its not Cerberus syndrome because the comic was dark, edgy and sexual to begin with. The writer however, fleshed out the otherwise two dimensional characters of Monique and Brew to make them understandable but highly flawed characters.
Trip, like you said, is also very kind and respectful to everyone, women included. He was the voice of reason in contrast to Brew\\\'s insanity and also shows that Shredded Moose was capable of having different kinds of men. Not just completely monstrous fratboys.
I could go on and on but I doubt you\\\'ll believe me. Krumm and Hall live in shame forever all because people failed to see the good in Shredded Moose. It\\\'s honestly not a one dimensional comic at all, and it provides a whole psychological study on male characters like Brew and Trip, both very real types of males in this world. Monique, on the other hand, is a feminist character done extremely well, she doesn\\\'t take shit from Brew and teaches him a lesson about respecting women not because she hates him but because she cares about him.
This comic and all of its wonderful art and themes have been completely disowned and dropped in the garbage. I am the sole inheritor of its spirit. It may have done some bad, reprehensible things but it is not a real life murderer or a rapist. It had a character who was meant to be a bully doing these things, but like all reasonable people, even Brew was capable of self reflection and redemption.
I am not Brian Krumm (Trip) or Chris Hall (Brew), Creamy-sama and thank you for at least being polite and going into fine detail why you believe Shredded Moose is a terrible webcomic but I don\\\'t think you have the whole picture. I dug up a whole bunch of SM comics from Something Awful\\\'s archive and it portrayed a far different comic than John Solomon or anyone else will have you believe.
http://imgur.com/a/GiuZW
I payed a lot of money on Something Awful to dig up these comics because I really liked the art contrary to what anyone said about the actual comics. Plus, I wanted to see the reputed \\\"worst webcomic of all time\\\" because I get a lot of ironic enjoyment out of reading bad things. What I found was a man who was misunderstood to the max.
First of all, believe it or not, Brew spent two whole years laboring on his now defunct site. From 2005-07, shreddedmoose.com was just a dream in his head and he built and programmed the whole thing himself. If you look it up on the internet archive, you can see Shredded Moose was a very slick and sophisticated site. Also read a few of his over-the-top libertarian blogs and you can tell by the semi-eloquent wording that Brew is by no means the imbecilic fratboy you portray him as.
The guy, at first, wanted to make a high quality entertainment site, blog and comic for fratboys, libertarians and gamers but did he by any means believe the stuff himself? His background seems a little intelligent for that doesn\\\'t it?
I have never seen the date rape comic honestly, or found it while I was searching the Something Awful archives. But in Brew\\\'s defense, the number one thing you mention is that you never see the actual offense taking place. Its just implied. Top it off with the main character being a dopey fratboy with a hilariously stupid grin and I don\\\'t know how anyone in their right mind ever take it seriously or condemn the entire comic because of it.
Second, who would be stupid enough to have their Mary Sue, self insert reportedly \\\"date rape\\\" someone and not look reprehensible. Are you sure the man wasn\\\'t aiming for satire of asshole fratboys? I\\\'m pretty sure a guy who programmed a whole site and worked in the IT industry would know that it wouldn\\\'t be a good idea to portray himself \\\"date raping\\\" people. There are SEVERAL early Shredded Moose comics that portray Brew as being a drunk, misogynist, someone who\\\'s arrogant and unaware of his moronicness and so on. I can find plenty of comics where Brew is being beaten up, acting idiotically, humiliated and even getting called out for his behavior. The comic is a lot more self aware and moral than you give it credit for. Also, I have NEVER seen a comic that portrays women as bad, they always seem to be Brew\\\'s victims. Never once does the comic actually attack them as people, it never calls them evil, or bitches or manipulative. Its always Brew who is lusting after them and harassing them. And guess what, all this mistreatment of women, leads to Monique giving him a taste of his own medicine, the two end up having a hate-love relationship that ends with Brew reflecting on how Monique saved his life rather than letting him get killed, and through her love he realizes that women are human and capable of love too. Then he starts treating all the women in his life better. Brew, the evil fratboy everyone considers him realized that love was the answer rather than hate or disdain for anyone.
When criticized however for making his character a \\\"Mary Brue\\\", Brew began developing his characters and showing the world his character wasn\\\'t infallible. We get to see why Brew\\\'s behaves so poorly. He\\\'s a spoiled aristocrat with daddy issues, in which his dad was either cruel to him or straight up ignored him while mistreating Brew\\\'s mother. Brew saw this behavior and started to emulate his father.
Monique too is given a backstory that shows what a strong, caring mother she grew up to be in spite of it all. Witnessing her mothers rape and living as an orphan lead her to being tough and raising herself to become an actually strong, empowered female character. She despises Brew not because she\\\'s a radical feminazi but because she\\\'s worried he\\\'ll become like her mothers rapists if he keeps going down that path.
Its not Cerberus syndrome because the comic was dark, edgy and sexual to begin with. The writer however, fleshed out the otherwise two dimensional characters of Monique and Brew to make them understandable but highly flawed characters.
Trip, like you said, is also very kind and respectful to everyone, women included. He was the voice of reason in contrast to Brew\\\'s insanity and also shows that Shredded Moose was capable of having different kinds of men. Not just completely monstrous fratboys.
I could go on and on but I doubt you\\\'ll believe me. Krumm and Hall live in shame forever all because people failed to see the good in Shredded Moose. It\\\'s honestly not a one dimensional comic at all, and it provides a whole psychological study on male characters like Brew and Trip, both very real types of males in this world. Monique, on the other hand, is a feminist character done extremely well, she doesn\\\'t take shit from Brew and teaches him a lesson about respecting women not because she hates him but because she cares about him.
This comic and all of its wonderful art and themes have been completely disowned and dropped in the garbage. I am the sole inheritor of its spirit. It may have done some bad, reprehensible things but it is not a real life murderer or a rapist. It had a character who was meant to be a bully doing these things, but like all reasonable people, even Brew was capable of self reflection and redemption.
