Discussion History Characters / WormSponsoredHeroes

-First off all three films are being released within a year or each other. (Beteween July 2012 and April 2013) They all (ironically enough) are the third film in their respective popular franchises/timelines starring popular \\\"non-super powered\\\" heroes. (TDKR of the Christopher Nolan Batman films/SF of the Daniel Craig James Bond films/and IM3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe standalone Iron Man films) A major archetypical plot thread the lead heroes face is that they\\\'re all dragged down to their lowest and essentially have to \\\"rise again from the ashes\\\". (Bruce being financially, physically, and spiritually broken in all areas due to a combination of his retirment and the eventually attack by the League of Shadows/Bond being shot on M\\\'s orders at the beginning of Skyfall lead to his running away from duty, and when he returns he finds himself to be out of practice and out of shape physically, and he even learns that his flat in London was sold/from what we can tell from the trailers of Iron Man 3, The Mandarin\\\'s attack on Tony will yield at least somehwat similar results including the desruction of his home, his sets of Iron Man armor, etc) All three feature terrorist lead villains who are connected to the lead heroes by being rooted with an organization from their pasts that helped make them the way they are. (Bane like Batman was trained by the League of Shadows and is apparently their leader/Like Bond Silva was trained by MI6 and a former field agent of theirs/Mandarin is the Leader of the Ten Rings which was the organization that captured Tony in the original film that caused his devestating injuries that threatened his heart leading to the perfecting of the Arc Reactor and whose brutality whilst using weapons his comapny produced gave him a new perspective on life).

There could be more similarities with that trio of films, but that the basic jist on why I think they work as a major case of dueling. The second addition I would suggest is:


THE ROAD TO EL DORADO vs THE EMPEROR\\\'S NEW GROOVE

-It would be another Disney vs Dreamworks match-up. Both were released in the year of 2000. And both are buddy comedy adventure films (both being about a duo of heroes with Tulio and Miguel in TRTED, and Kuzco and Pacha in TENG) set in old Meso-America.

So, does anybody agree or disagree with any of these suggestions?

-First off all three films are being released within a year or each other. (Beteween July 2012 and April 2013) They all (ironically enough) are the third film in their respective popular franchises/timelines starring popular \\\"non-super powered\\\" heroes. (TDKR of the Christopher Nolan Batman films/SF of the Daniel Craig James Bond films/and IM3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe standalone Iron Man films) A major archetypical plot thread the lead heroes face is that they\\\'re all dragged down to their lowest and essentially have to \\\"rise again from the ashes\\\". (Bruce being financially, physically, and spiritually broken in all areas due to a combination of his retirment and the eventually attack by the League of Shadows/Bond being shot on M\\\'s orders at the beginning of Skyfall lead to his running away from duty, and when he returns he finds himself to be out of practice and out of shape physically, and he even learns that his flat in London was sold/from what we can tell from the trailers of Iron Man 3, The Mandarin\\\'s attack on Tony will yield at least somehwat similar results including the desruction of his home, his sets of Iron Man armor, etc) All three feature terrorist lead villains who are connected to the lead heroes by being rooted with an organization from their pasts that helped make them the way they are. (Bane like Batman was trained by the League of Shadows/Like Bond Silva was trained by MI6 and a former field agent of theirs/Mandarin is the Leader of the Ten Rings which was the organization that captured Tony in the original film that caused his devestating injuries that threatened his heart leading to the perfecting of the Arc Reactor and whose brutality whilst using weapons his comapny produced gave him a new perspective on life).

There could be more similarities with that trio of films, but that the basic jist on why I think they work as a major case of dueling. The second addition I would suggest is:


THE ROAD TO EL DORADO vs THE EMPEROR\\\'S NEW GROOVE

-It would be another Disney vs Dreamworks match-up. Both were released in the year of 2000. And both are buddy comedy adventure films (both being about a duo of heroes with Tulio and Miguel in TRTED, and Kuzco and Pacha in TENG) set in old Meso-America.

So, does anybody agree or disagree with any of these suggestions?

-First off all three films are being released within a year or each other. (Beteween July 2012 and April 2013) They all (ironically enough) are the third film in their respective popular franchises/timelines starring popular \\\"non-super powered\\\" heroes. (TDKR of the Christopher Nolan Batman films/SF of the Daniel Craig James Bond films/and IM3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe standalone Iron Man films) A major archetypical plot thread the lead heroes face is that they\\\'re all dragged down to their lowest and essentially have to \\\"rise again from the ashes\\\". (Bruce being financially, physically, and spiritually broken in all areas due to a combination of his retirment and the eventually attack by the League of Shadows/Bond being shot on M\\\'s orders at the beginning of Skyfall lead to his running away from duty, and when he returns he finds himself to be out of practice and out of shape physically, and he even learns that his flat in London was sold/from what we can tell from the trailers of Iron Man 3, The Mandarin\\\'s attack on Tony will yield at least somehwat similar results including the desruction of his home, his sets of Iron Man armor, etc) All three feature terrorist lead villains who are connected to the lead heroes by being rooted with an organization from their pasts that helped make them the way they are. (Bane like Batman was trained by the League of Shadows/Like Bond Silva was trained by MI6 and a former field agent of theirs/Mandarin is the Leader of the Ten Rings which was the organization that captured Tony in the original film that caused his devestating heart injuries and whose brutality gave him a new outlook on life).

There could be more similarities with that trio of films, but that the basic jist on why I think they work as a major case of dueling. The second addition I would suggest is:


THE ROAD TO EL DORADO vs THE EMPEROR\\\'S NEW GROOVE

-It would be another Disney vs Dreamworks match-up. Both were released in the year of 2000. And both are buddy comedy adventure films (both being about a duo of heroes with Tulio and Miguel in TRTED, and Kuzco and Pacha in TENG) set in old Meso-America.

So, does anybody agree or disagree with any of these suggestions?

-First off all three films are being released within a year or each other. (Beteween July 2012 and April 2013) They all (ironically enough) are the third film in their respective popular franchises/timelines (TDKR of the Christopher Nolan Batman films/SF of the Daniel Craig James Bond films/and IM3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe standalone Iron Man films). A major archetypical plot thread the lead heroes face is that they\\\'re all dragged down to their lowest and essentially have to \\\"rise again from the ashes\\\". (Bruce being financially, physically, and spiritually broken in all areas due to a combination of his retirment and the eventually attack by the League of Shadows/Bond being shot on M\\\'s orders at the beginning of Skyfall lead to his running away from duty, and when he returns he finds himself to be out of practice and out of shape physically, and he even learns that his flat in London was sold/from what we can tell from the trailers of Iron Man 3, The Mandarin\\\'s attack on Tony will yield at least somehwat similar results including the desruction of his home, his sets of Iron Man armor, etc) All three feature terrorist lead villains who are connected to the lead heroes by being rooted with an organization from their pasts that helped make them the way they are. (Bane like Batman was trained by the League of Shadows/Like Bond Silva was trained by MI6 and a former field agent of theirs/Mandarin is the Leader of the Ten Rings which was the organization that captured Tony in the original film that caused his devestating heart injuries and whose brutality gave him a new outlook on life).

There could be more similarities with that trio of films, but that the basic jist on why I think they work as a major case of dueling. The second addition I would suggest is:


THE ROAD TO EL DORADO vs THE EMPEROR\\\'S NEW GROOVE

-It would be another Disney vs Dreamworks match-up. Both were released in the year of 2000. And both are buddy comedy adventure films (both being about a duo of heroes with Tulio and Miguel in TRTED, and Kuzco and Pacha in TENG) set in old Meso-America.

So, does anybody agree or disagree with any of these suggestions?

-First off all three films are being released within a year or each other. (Beteween July 2012 and April 2013) They all (ironically enough) are the third film in their respective popular franchises/timelines (TDKR of the Christopher Nolan Batman films/SF of the Daniel Craig James Bond films/and IM3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe standalone Iron Man films). A major archetypical plot thread the lead heroes face is that they\\\'re all dragged down to their lowest and essentially have to \\\"rise again from the ashes\\\". (Bruce being financially, physically, and spiritually broken in all areas due to a combination of his retirment and the eventually attack by the League of Shadows/Bond being shot on M\\\'s orders at the beginning of Skyfall lead to his running away from duty, and when he returns he finds himself to be out of practice and out of shape physically, and he even learns that his flat in London was sold/from what we can tell from the trailers of Iron Man 3, The Mandarin\\\'s attack on Tony will yield at least somehwat similar results including the desruction of his home, his sets of Iron Man armor, etc) All three feature terrorist lead villains who are connected to the lead heroes by being rooted with an organization from their pasts that helped make them the way they are. (Bane like Batman was trained by the League of Shadows/Like Bond Silva was trained by MI6 and a former field agent of theirs/Mandarin is the Leader of the Ten Rings which was the organization that captured Tony in the original film that caused his devestating heart injuries and whose brutality gave him a new outlook on life). Taking things \\\"back to the beginning\\\" in a sense.

There could be more similarities with that trio of films, but that the basic jist on why I think they work as a major case of dueling. The second addition I would suggest is:


THE ROAD TO EL DORADO vs THE EMPEROR\\\'S NEW GROOVE

-It would be another Disney vs Dreamworks match-up. Both were released in the year of 2000. And both are buddy comedy adventure films (both being about a duo of heroes with Tulio and Miguel in TRTED, and Kuzco and Pacha in TENG) set in old Meso-America.

So, does anybody agree or disagree with any of these suggestions?

-First off all three films are being released within a year or each other. (Beteween July 2012 and April 2013) They all (ironically enough) are the third film in their respective popular franchises/timelines (TDKR of the Christopher Nolan Batman films/SF of the Daniel Craig James Bond films/and IM3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe standalone Iron Man films). A major archetypical plot thread the lead heroes face is that they\\\'re all dragged down to their lowest and essentially have to \\\"rise again from the ashes\\\". (Bruce being financially, physically, and spiritually broken in all areas due to a combination of his retirment and the eventually attack by the League of Shadows/Bond being shot on M\\\'s orders at the beginning of Skyfall lead to his running away from duty, and when he returns he finds himself to be out of practice and out of shape physically, and he even learns that his flat in London was sold/from what we can tell from the trailers of Iron Man 3, The Mandarin\\\'s attack on Tony will yield at least somehwat similar results including the desruction of his home, his sets of Iron Man armor, etc) All three feature terrorist lead villains who are connected to the lead heroes by being rooted with an organization from their pasts that helped make them the way they are. (Bane like Batman was trained by the League of Shadows/Like Bond Silva was trained by MI6 and a former field agent of their/Mandarin is the Leader of the Ten Rings which was the organization that captured Tony in the original film that caused his devestating heart injuries and whose brutality gave him a new outlook on life).

There could be more similarities with that trio of films, but that the basic jist on why I think they work as a major case of dueling. The second addition I would suggest is:


THE ROAD TO EL DORADO vs THE EMPEROR\\\'S NEW GROOVE

-It would be another Disney vs Dreamworks match-up. Both were released in the year of 2000. And both are buddy comedy adventure films (both being about a duo of heroes with Tulio and Miguel in TRTED, and Kuzco and Pacha in TENG) set in old Meso-America.

So, does anybody agree or disagree with any of these suggestions?

-First off all three films are being released within a year or each other. (Beteween July 2012 and April 2013) They all (ironically enough) are the third film in their respective popular franchises/timelines (TDKR of the Christopher Nolan Batman films/SF of the Daniel Craig James Bond films/and IM3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe standalone Iron Man films). A major archetypical plot thread the lead heroes face is that they\\\'re all dragged down to their lowest and essentially have to \\\"rise again from the ashes\\\" in a qusi-Book of Job sort of storyline. (Bruce being financially, physically, and spiritually broken in all areas due to a combination of his retirment and the eventually attack by the League of Shadows/Bond being shot on M\\\'s orders at the beginning of Skyfall lead to his running away from duty, and when he returns he finds himself to be out of practice and out of shape physically, and he even learns that his flat in London was sold/from what we can tell from the trailers of Iron Man 3, The Mandarin will be doing a somewhat similar attack on Tony that leads to the desruction of his home, his sets of Iron Man armor, etc) All three feature terrorist lead villains who are connected to the lead heroes by being rooted with an organization from their pasts that helped make them the way they are. (Bane like Batman was trained by the League of Shadows and by TDKR is their leader/Like Bond Silva was trained by MI6 and a former field agent of their/Mandarin is the Leader of the Ten Rings which was the organization that captured Tony in the original film that caused his devestating heart injuries and whose brutality gave him a new outlook on life).

There could be more similarities with that trio of films, but that the basic jist on why I think they work as a major case of dueling. The second addition I would suggest is:


THE ROAD TO EL DORADO vs THE EMPEROR\\\'S NEW GROOVE

-It would be another Disney vs Dreamworks match-up. Both were released in the year of 2000. And both are buddy comedy adventure films (both being about a duo of heroes with Tulio and Miguel in TRTED, and Kuzco and Pacha in TENG) set in old Meso-America.

So, does anybody agree or disagree with any of these suggestions?

-First off all three films are being released within a year or each other. (Beteween July 2012 and April 2013) They all (ironically enough) are the third film in their respective popular franchises/timelines (TDKR of the Christopher Nolan Batman films/SF of the Daniel Craig James Bond films/and IM3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe standalone Iron Man films). A major archetypical plot thread the lead heroes face is that they\\\'re all dragged down to their lowest and essentially have to \\\"rise again from the ashes\\\" in a qusi-Book of Job sort of storyline. (Bruce being financially, physically, and spiritually broken in all areas due to a combination of his retirment and the eventually attack by the League of Shadows/Bond being shot on M\\\'s orders at the beginning of Skyfall lead to his running away from duty, and when he returns he finds himself to be out of practice and out of shape physically, and he even learns that his flat in London was sold/from what we can tell from the trailers of Iron Man 3, The Mandarin will be doing a somewhat similar attack on Tony that leads to the desruction of his home, his sets of Iron Man armor, etc) All three feature terrorist lead villains who are connected to the lead heroes by being rooted with an organization from their pasts that helped make them the way they are. (Bane like Batman was trained by the League of Shadows and by TDKR is their leader/Like Bond Silva was trained by MI6 and a former field agent of their/Mandarin is the Leader of the Ten Rings which was the organization that captured Tony in the original film that caused his devestating heart injuries and gave him a new outlook on life). Essentially making something of a \\\"full circle\\\" feeling to the conflict. (though admittedly there\\\'s probably a better term for it that I\\\'m not thinking of)


There could be more similarities with that trio of films, but that the basic jist on why I think they work as a major case of dueling. The second addition I would suggest is:


THE ROAD TO EL DORADO vs THE EMPEROR\\\'S NEW GROOVE

-It would be another Disney vs Dreamworks match-up. Both were released in the year of 2000. And both are buddy comedy adventure films (both being about a duo of heroes with Tulio and Miguel in TRTED, and Kuzco and Pacha in TENG) set in old Meso-America.

So, does anybody agree or disagree with any of these suggestions?

-First off all three films are being released within a year or each other. (Beteween July 2012 and April 2013) They all (ironically enough) are the third film in their respective popular franchises/timelines (TDKR of the Christopher Nolan Batman films/SF of the Daniel Craig James Bond films/and IM3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe standalone Iron Man films). A major archetypical plot thread the lead heroes face is that they\\\'re all dragged down to their lowest and essentially have to \\\"rise again from the ashes\\\" in a qusi-Book of Job sort of storyline. (Bruce being financially, physically, and spiritually broken in all areas due to a combination of his retirment and the eventually attack by the League of Shadows/Bond being shot on M\\\'s orders at the beginning of Skyfall lead to his running away from duty, and when he returns he\\\'s lost his home and finds himself to be out of practice and out of shape physically/from what we can tell from the trailers of Iron Man 3, The Mandarin will be doing a somewhat similar attack on Tony that leads to the desruction of his home, his sets of Iron Man armor, etc) All three feature terrorist lead villains who are connected to the lead heroes by being rooted with an organization from their pasts that helped make them the way they are. (Bane like Batman was trained by the League of Shadows and by TDKR is their leader/Like Bond Silva was trained by MI6 and a former field agent of their/Mandarin is the Leader of the Ten Rings which was the organization that captured Tony in the original film that caused his devestating heart injuries and gave him a new outlook on life). Essentially making something of a \\\"full circle\\\" feeling to the conflict. (though admittedly there\\\'s probably a better term for it that I\\\'m not thinking of)


There could be more similarities with that trio of films, but that the basic jist on why I think they work as a major case of dueling. The second addition I would suggest is:


THE ROAD TO EL DORADO vs THE EMPEROR\\\'S NEW GROOVE

-It would be another Disney vs Dreamworks match-up. Both were released in the year of 2000. And both are buddy comedy adventure films (both being about a duo of heroes with Tulio and Miguel in TRTED, and Kuzco and Pacha in TENG) set in old Meso-America.

So, does anybody agree or disagree with any of these suggestions?

-First off all three films are being released within a year or each other. (Beteween July 2012 and April 2013) They all (ironically enough) are the third film in their respective popular franchises/timelines (TDKR of the Christopher Nolan Batman films/SF of the Daniel Craig James Bond films/and IM3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe standalone Iron Man films). A major archetypical plot thread the lead heroes face is that they\\\'re all dragged down to their lowest and essentially have to \\\"rise again from the ashes\\\" in a qusi-Book of Job sort of storyline. (Bruce being financially, physically, and spiritually broken in all areas due to a combination of his retirment and the eventually attack by the League of Shadows/Bond being shot on M\\\'s orders at the beginning of Skyfall lead to his running away from duty, and when he returns he\\\'s lost his home and finds himself to be out of practice and out of shape physically/from what we can tell from the trailers of Iron Man 3, The Mandarin will be doing a somewhat similar attack on Tony that leads to the desruction of his home, his sets of Iron Man armor, etc) All three feature terrorist lead villains who are connected to the lead heroes by being rooted with an organization from their pasts that helped make them the way they are. (Bane like Batman was trained by the League of Shadows and by TDKR is their leader/Like Bond Silva was trained by MI6 and a former field agent of their/Mandarin is the Leader of the Ten Rings which was the organization that captured Tony in the original film that caused his devestating heart injuries and gave him a new outlook on life). Essentially making something of a \\\"full circle\\\" feeling to the conflict. (though admittedly there\\\'s probably a better term for it that I\\\'m not thinking of)


There could be more similarities with that trio of films, but that the basic jist on why I think they work as a major case of dueling. The second addition I would suggest is:


THE ROAD TO EL DORADO vs THE EMPEROR\\\'S NEW GROOVE

-It would be another Disney vs Dreamworks match-up. Both were released in the year of 2000. And both are buddy comedy adventure films (both being about a duo of heroes with Tulio and Miguel in TRTED, and Kuzco and Pacha in TENG)set in old Meso-America.

So, does anybody agree or disagree with any of these suggestions?