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Edit: My post here was somewhat caustic, because I took Arcades\' post above as directed at me. I edited it to take out the vitriol.
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\\\'\\\'\\\'Edit\\\'\\\'\\\': My post here was somewhat caustic, because I took Arcades\\\' post above as directed at me. I edited it to take out the vitriol.
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If you don\'t premise that J.R.R. Tolkien is the only source of Middle Earth \
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If you don\\\'t premise that J.R.R. Tolkien is the only source of Middle Earth \\\"facts\\\", then there isn\\\'t any reason to consider \\\'\\\'The Silmarillion\\\'\\\' as less \\\"valid\\\" than any other Middle Earth work. This is a page about characters from \\\'\\\'The Silmarillion\\\'\\\', not \\\"Characters by J.R.R. Tolkien\\\".
The line at the top is not an universal solution to the page purpose conflict. I have doubts that whoever put it there bothered to get a consensus from the wiki first.
But I already said that I \\\'\\\'am\\\'\\\' okay with including additional material from \\\'\\\'Unfinished Tales\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'The History of Middle Earth\\\'\\\' here. But I am against the additional material \\\'\\\'overruling\\\'\\\' the \\\'\\\'Silmarillion\\\'\\\' material. If you really want to create a \\\"synoptic\\\" version of the history of Arda, then the page would be better at home at Characters.TolkiensLegendarium instead.
My suggestion is to use the \\\'\\\'Silmarillion\\\'\\\' as the primary basis of this page, and treat the other works as sources of subsidiary information where it isn\\\'t too much of a stretch, and with a specification of the work referenced.
My chief concern is that the page does not become impossible to edit or to follow for someone who has only read \\\'\\\'The Silmarillion\\\'\\\'. You should not have to have read the \\\'\\\'History of Middle-Earth\\\'\\\' to be able to contribute to this page.
As for the various \\\"[intended] rape or not\\\" cases discussed above: I think the assumption that there is a \\\"true\\\" answer that can be unearthed is wrong. Tolkien himself may not have had an answer to these questions.
The line at the top is not an universal solution to the page purpose conflict. I have doubts that whoever put it there bothered to get a consensus from the wiki first.
But I already said that I \\\'\\\'am\\\'\\\' okay with including additional material from \\\'\\\'Unfinished Tales\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'The History of Middle Earth\\\'\\\' here. But I am against the additional material \\\'\\\'overruling\\\'\\\' the \\\'\\\'Silmarillion\\\'\\\' material. If you really want to create a \\\"synoptic\\\" version of the history of Arda, then the page would be better at home at Characters.TolkiensLegendarium instead.
My suggestion is to use the \\\'\\\'Silmarillion\\\'\\\' as the primary basis of this page, and treat the other works as sources of subsidiary information where it isn\\\'t too much of a stretch, and with a specification of the work referenced.
My chief concern is that the page does not become impossible to edit or to follow for someone who has only read \\\'\\\'The Silmarillion\\\'\\\'. You should not have to have read the \\\'\\\'History of Middle-Earth\\\'\\\' to be able to contribute to this page.
As for the various \\\"[intended] rape or not\\\" cases discussed above: I think the assumption that there is a \\\"true\\\" answer that can be unearthed is wrong. Tolkien himself may not have had an answer to these questions.
