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Wait a second.. You realize that the Sirat Rasula is just a bunch of first or second hand accounts about the life of the Prophet, and is no way an actually religiously binding set of documents. And, seeing as how the Sirat\'s spend practically their whole time gushing about how merciful the Prophet was (What, bringing up his treatment of prisoners, refusal to harm non-combatants, and the his extremely restrained method of war, and self defence) calling it devoted to offensive war is really misstating what the whole things about. As for Hadiths, Hadiths have a large amount of variance in their validity, and their followings, what with the whole not being part of the Quran thing at all. They tend to just give examples of how a good Muslim should act, or something that the Prophet did. These are really kept more as history, and some of the more controversial Hadiths are constantly being questioned.

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Wait a second.. You realize that the Sirat Rasula is just a bunch of first or second hand accounts about the life of the Prophet, and is no way an actually religiously binding set of documents. And, seeing as how the Sirat\\\'s spend practically their whole time gushing about how merciful the Prophet was (What, bringing up his treatment of prisoners, refusal to harm non-combatants, and the his extremely restrained method of war, and self defence) calling it devoted to offensive war is really misstating what the whole things about. As for Hadiths, Hadiths have a large amount of variance in their validity, and their followings, what with the whole not being part of the Quran thing at all. They tend to just give examples of how a good Muslim should act, or something that the Prophet did. These are really kept more as history, and some of the more controversial Hadiths are constantly being questioned. By the way, all of the Pillars are actually mentioned in the Quran its self. Check out verses 3:18, 20:14, 7:156, 2:185, 22:27.8

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Edit: Beetle- The idea that we judge a religion based surely on the book its based on is really ignoring what actually makes a religion a religion. Religions change, the people part of those religions change what they focus on, disregard older customs and make new ones. Every generation will have a different criteria of what makes a person of that religion, and their all still part of that same religion. So the idea that we examine the books without context of the culture, region, and people, just seems backwards too me.

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Oh, and please don\'t use Jihad in that way. Its mentioned in this article by its self that Jihad does not mean Holy War.

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Finally, I understand their is a bit of a double standard here, but you need to understand that most of the things that people say about Islam is from a very warped perspective. Most of us grew up with Christianity, and its influence is so pervasive in western society, we don\'t really even notice it. Islam however is something a large amount of us are just not as familiar with, so we don\'t get the nuances, we don\'t get when something was meant to be read literally, or when something was simply a story. We don\'t get when the Devil is talking about something horrible he expects human to do, or if the Quran is telling us to do that. So frankly, I think forcing people to shut the fuck up about what they heard about Islam from some third party source, that has an obvious bias against Islam, might be the right thing to do.

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Wait a second.. You realize that the Sirat Rasula is just a bunch of first or second hand accounts about the life of the Prophet, and is no way an actually religiously binding set of documents. And, seeing as how the Sirat\\\'s spend practically their whole time gushing about how merciful the Prophet was (What, bringing up his treatment of prisoners, refusal to harm non-combatants, and the his extremely restrained method of war, and self defence) calling it devoted to offensive war is really misstating what the whole things about. As for Hadiths, Hadiths have a large amount of variance in their validity, and their followings, what with the whole not being part of the Quran thing at all. They tend to just give examples of how a good Muslim should act, or something that the Prophet did. These are really kept more as history, and some of the more controversial Hadiths are constantly being questioned.

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