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Lusitania discussion/natter moved here. Please keep the discussion here. I added this note: \\\"There was considerable controversy about whether her sinking was a justified attack on a military vessel, but the battlecry raised patriotic fervor that made the discussion moot. \\\"
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* \\\"Remember the \\\'\\\'Lusitania\\\'\\\'!\\\" - the sinking of the British ocean liner (auxiliary cruiser) in 1915 helped turn world opinion against Germany in World War I. There was considerable controversy about whether her sinking was a justified attack on a military vessel, but the battlecry raised patriotic fervor that made the discussion moot.
** As with the \\\'\\\'Maine\\\'\\\' example above, some historians think the \\\'\\\'Lusitania\\\'\\\' was either carrying weapons or was [[FalseFlagOperation pretty much a bait]] (either by Great Britain or America) [[PatrioticFervor to get American citizens to support]] [[AmericaWinsTheWar American participation in the war.]]
*** She sailed into a declared war zone. She was also officially listed as an Armed Merchant Cruiser.
*** She was also carrying guncotton (artillery shell propellant) and fuses for artillery shells, along with 4,992 shrapnel shells.
**** The claims she was carrying contraband have never been proven. She was carrying ammunition for rifles, but at the time this wasn\\\'t considered contraband and it was common practice to ship ammo on commercial shipping.
*** The German government put up an add in the biggest newspapers to NOT board a British ship sailing into a warzone, since German u-boats might sink it. IF they board it, they do so at their own risk, and have been warned. Still it was all germany\\\'s fault, somehow.
*** That\\\'s like a schoolyard bully justifying an assault because the victim didn\\\'t give into his threats.
**** War is not a playground and sinking ships carrying resources is not beating someone for lunch money. With this logic, engineers are the one responsible for [[TooDumbToLive death and injuries of people going on marked and coralled minefields]].
*** Remember that the Germans made a point of only sinking merchant ships.
**** The Germans sent a single submarine through a narrow, shallow access canal into a British naval harbor and sank the British battleship Royal Oak at anchor. The submarine got away unscathed through the limited escape route. In short, the Germans sank British naval ships whenever they could, and went out of their way to find them.
** As with the \\\'\\\'Maine\\\'\\\' example above, some historians think the \\\'\\\'Lusitania\\\'\\\' was either carrying weapons or was [[FalseFlagOperation pretty much a bait]] (either by Great Britain or America) [[PatrioticFervor to get American citizens to support]] [[AmericaWinsTheWar American participation in the war.]]
*** She sailed into a declared war zone. She was also officially listed as an Armed Merchant Cruiser.
*** She was also carrying guncotton (artillery shell propellant) and fuses for artillery shells, along with 4,992 shrapnel shells.
**** The claims she was carrying contraband have never been proven. She was carrying ammunition for rifles, but at the time this wasn\\\'t considered contraband and it was common practice to ship ammo on commercial shipping.
*** The German government put up an add in the biggest newspapers to NOT board a British ship sailing into a warzone, since German u-boats might sink it. IF they board it, they do so at their own risk, and have been warned. Still it was all germany\\\'s fault, somehow.
*** That\\\'s like a schoolyard bully justifying an assault because the victim didn\\\'t give into his threats.
**** War is not a playground and sinking ships carrying resources is not beating someone for lunch money. With this logic, engineers are the one responsible for [[TooDumbToLive death and injuries of people going on marked and coralled minefields]].
*** Remember that the Germans made a point of only sinking merchant ships.
**** The Germans sent a single submarine through a narrow, shallow access canal into a British naval harbor and sank the British battleship Royal Oak at anchor. The submarine got away unscathed through the limited escape route. In short, the Germans sank British naval ships whenever they could, and went out of their way to find them.
