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Umm, that is still not a good example, because asking for a lawyer is NOT an admission of guilt. I am seriously starting to detest that trope. Point is, Byakko had very little, if anything, to do with the genocide, and are actively subverting the war. I do not understand why every single person who identifies as Fire must suddenly grovel at the feet of their \\\"betters\\\" or they\\\'re people without honor or morals. NOT everyone there is a genocidal monster, or else AllGermansAreNazis, even today. I think most people with sense believe that the war is wrong, but I don\\\'t see how expecting them to flagellate themselves is going to solve most of their problems or actually STOP the war and Koh\\\'s ambitions. It\\\'s not negotiating if one side gives into every demand, because they are monsters and deserve it. The Treaty of Versailles did EXACTLY that, and we all know how that went.

Seriously, Lituya Bay is probably doing the most to foster a lasting peace after the end of the war. Raking every single person of Fire ancestry over the coals for what generations of madmen did is only going to fuel more wars.

EDIT: Apologies for the rant, I have had a VERY bad week, and self-expression sans explosions is difficult right now. As is, apparently, reading comprehension. Yes, to someone who doesn\\\'t know how the formality works, it would sound evasive, but butchering someone who doesn\\\'t tell you what you want to hear is counterproductive. Right now, things are so tense that action must be taken immediately for the sake of the world AND humanity itself. Refusing to deal with someone until they\\\'ve debased themselves to your satisfaction is not just useless, it\\\'s dithering. When things are something resembling stable? THEN people can air their grievances. Right now, though? NOT the time.

Umm, that is still not a good example, because asking for a lawyer is NOT an admission of guilt. I am seriously starting to detest that trope. Point is, Byakko had very little, if anything, to do with the genocide, and are actively subverting the war. I do not understand why every single person who identifies as Fire must suddenly grovel at the feet of their \\\"betters\\\" or they\\\'re people without honor or morals. NOT everyone there is a genocidal monster, or else AllGermansAreNazis, even today. I think most people with sense believe that the war is wrong, but I don\\\'t see how expecting them to flagellate themselves is going to solve most of their problems or actually STOP the war and Koh\\\'s ambitions. It\\\'s not negotiating if one side gives into every demand, because they are monsters and deserve it. The Treaty of Versailles did EXACTLY that, and we all know how that went.

Seriously, Lituya Bay is probably doing the most to foster a lasting peace after the end of the war. Raking every single person of Fire ancestry over the coals for what generations of madmen did is only going to fuel more wars.

EDIT: Apologies for the rant, I have had a VERY bad week, and self-expression sans explosions is difficult right now.

Anybody know if it exists yet, and if it doesn\\\'t if it\\\'s worth tossing onto [=YKTTW=]? I can only think of a case ({{Maus}}) so there might simply not be enough examples.