Discussion History WesternAnimation / TransformersPrime

\\\"As we killed our opponents in the ring, we saw in their deaths the realization that they were individuals. And so we knew we were too. In killing, we understood life. In being the most disposable of commodities—a gladiator whose remains are thrown into the junkpile to be picked over and scavenged, the healthy pieces sold off to brokers in Iacon and Crystal City—in being disposable, we discovered we had value.\\\"

Oh, look at him go. Look at him demanding power. What a rank little bastard.

But let\\\'s assume that you\\\'re right. Going on nothing more substantial than that tiny flashback delivered by Ratchet, the one that contradicts other areas of Prime continuity, let\\\'s assume for a moment that the war was kicked off by Megatronus pitching a fit in front of the Council and becoming jealous of Optimus.

\\\'\\\'That does not matter.\\\'\\\'

Because Megatron \\\'\\\'isn\\\'t\\\'\\\' the entire Decepticon faction.

If Megatronus had earned his following by standing up and ranting about conquering Cybertron/ruling the universe/kicking all the puppies, then that would place the Decepticon faction in the moral black. But he didn\\\'t at all. He talked about reform, corruption, and radical change. He attracted followers who believed in the same thing. He gained their support as a leader and held it. Do you really think he led them all into planetwide warfare on the grounds of \\\"I don\\\'t care for that little librarian who just took the Matrix?\\\"

Whatever went down before the Council that day, it doesn\\\'t change the bigger picture...that both Autobots and Decepticons as a whole want the same thing. It\\\'s their methods of getting there that severely clash.

That fact isn\\\'t exclusive to any one continuity.

And that is a \\\'\\\'big\\\'\\\' moral grey area.

\\\"As we killed our opponents in the ring, we saw in their deaths the realization that they were individuals. And so we knew we were too. In killing, we understood life. In being the most disposable of commodities—a gladiator whose remains are thrown into the junkpile to be picked over and scavenged, the healthy pieces sold off to brokers in Iacon and Crystal City—in being disposable, we discovered we had value.\\\"

Oh, look at him go. Look at him demanding power. What a rank little bastard.

But let\\\'s assume that you\\\'re right. Going on nothing more substantial than that tiny flashback delivered by Ratchet, the one that contradicts other areas of Prime continuity, let\\\'s assume for a moment that the war was kicked off by Megatronus pitching a fit in front of the Council and becoming jealous of Optimus.

\\\'\\\'That does not matter.\\\'\\\'

Because Megatron \\\'\\\'isn\\\'t\\\'\\\' the entire Decepticon faction.

If Megatronus had earned his following by standing up and ranting about conquering Cybertron/ruling the universe/kicking all the puppies, then that would place the Decepticon faction in the moral black. But he didn\\\'t at all. He talked about reform, corruption, and radical change. He attracted followers who believed in the same thing. He gained their support as a leader and held it. Do you really think he led them all into planetwide warfare on the grounds of \\\"I don\\\'t care for that little librarian who just took the Matrix?\\\"

Whatever went down before the Council that day, it doesn\\\'t change the bigger picture...that both Autobots and Decepticons as a whole want the same thing. It\\\'s their methods of getting there that severely clash.

That fact isn\\\'t exclusive to any one continuity.

And that is a \\\'\\\'big\\\'\\\' moral grey area.

\\\"As we killed our opponents in the ring, we saw in their deaths the realization that they were individuals. And so we knew we were too. In killing, we understood life. In being the most disposable of commodities—a gladiator whose remains are thrown into the junkpile to be picked over and scavenged, the healthy pieces sold off to brokers in Iacon and Crystal City—in being disposable, we discovered we had value.\\\"

Oh, look at him go. Look at him demanding power. What a rank little bastard.

But let\\\'s assume that you\\\'re right. Going on nothing more substantial than that tiny flashback delivered by Ratchet, the one that contradicts other areas of Prime continuity, let\\\'s assume for a moment that the war was kicked off by Megatronus pitching a fit in front of the Council and becoming jealous of Optimus.

\\\'\\\'That does not matter.\\\'\\\'

Because Megatron \\\'\\\'isn\\\'t\\\'\\\' the entire Decepticon faction.

If Megatronus had earned his following by standing up and ranting about conquering Cybertron/ruling the universe/kicking all the puppies, then that would place the Decepticon faction in the moral black. But he didn\\\'t at all. He talked about reform, corruption, and radical change. He attracted followers who believed in the same thing. He gained their support as a leader and held it. Whatever went down before the Council that day, it doesn\\\'t change the bigger picture...that both Autobots and Decepticons as a whole want the same thing. It\\\'s their methods of getting there that severely clash.

That fact isn\\\'t exclusive to any one continuity.

And that is a \\\'\\\'big\\\'\\\' moral grey area.

Do \\\'\\\'any\\\'\\\' of these fics have links? And if they don\\\'t how do we know they really exist? Google has not helped me find them.