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Except the trope description says Batman Gambits include GenreSavvy individuals designing a plan to exploit TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin. \
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Except the trope description says Batman Gambits include GenreSavvy individuals designing a plan to exploit TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin. \\\"Reasonable action\\\" does not just mean \\\"reasonable choice\\\" but also \\\"reasonable outcome\\\", that earlier line would make absolutely no sense if it didn\\\'t. And failure and death is always a reasonable outcome in this genre.
Look, TropesAreFlexible. Go ahead and make a TRS thread if you feel strongly that Batman Gambit is suffering Trope Decay. But under the current definition, this is an example. There are plenty of other ones listed on the Batman Gambit page just where letting someone die is the \\\"reasonable option\\\":
* In the \\\"Hush\\\" storyline, Batman finds himself facing off against a mind-controlled Superman, and is clearly physically outmatched. His solution is to have Catwoman dangle Lois Lane off a roof, and give Supes the choice of either saving her or continuing the fight.
* Metal Gear Solid features a hastily improvised Gambit (developed by the bad guys\\\' resident psychic, sensibly enough) which revolves around a single-use keycard which will toggle a nuclear weapon from \\\"active\\\" to \\\"inactive\\\" or vice-versa. The bad guys seem to accept that facing off against the hero is a suicidal masquerade to set up deathbed conversions and make the plan convincing.
* In Soul Nomad & the World Eaters Rakasha travels with you, confident you will be able to defeat the other World Eaters (who he views as rivals), then waits until you are trapped and helpless before striking
* Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix: Voldemort creates a false vision to trick Harry into believing he has Sirius trapped in the Hall of Prophecy, correctly guessing Harry would go to rescue him, finding the Prophecy instead, which Voldemort\\\'s Death Eaters could then steal.
* and so on.
Look, TropesAreFlexible. Go ahead and make a TRS thread if you feel strongly that Batman Gambit is suffering Trope Decay. But under the current definition, this is an example. There are plenty of other ones listed on the Batman Gambit page just where letting someone die is the \\\"reasonable option\\\":
* In the \\\"Hush\\\" storyline, Batman finds himself facing off against a mind-controlled Superman, and is clearly physically outmatched. His solution is to have Catwoman dangle Lois Lane off a roof, and give Supes the choice of either saving her or continuing the fight.
* Metal Gear Solid features a hastily improvised Gambit (developed by the bad guys\\\' resident psychic, sensibly enough) which revolves around a single-use keycard which will toggle a nuclear weapon from \\\"active\\\" to \\\"inactive\\\" or vice-versa. The bad guys seem to accept that facing off against the hero is a suicidal masquerade to set up deathbed conversions and make the plan convincing.
* In Soul Nomad & the World Eaters Rakasha travels with you, confident you will be able to defeat the other World Eaters (who he views as rivals), then waits until you are trapped and helpless before striking
* Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix: Voldemort creates a false vision to trick Harry into believing he has Sirius trapped in the Hall of Prophecy, correctly guessing Harry would go to rescue him, finding the Prophecy instead, which Voldemort\\\'s Death Eaters could then steal.
* and so on.
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Except the trope description says Batman Gambits include GenreSavvy individuals designing a plan to exploit TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin. \
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Except the trope description says Batman Gambits include GenreSavvy individuals designing a plan to exploit TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin. \\\"Reasonable action\\\" does not just mean \\\"reasonable choice\\\" but also \\\"reasonable outcome\\\", that earlier line would make absolutely no sense if it didn\\\'t. And failure and death is always a reasonable outcome in this genre.
Look, TropesAreFlexible. Go ahead and make a TRS thread if you feel strongly that Batman Gambit is suffering Trope Decay. But under the current definition, this is an example. There are plenty of other ones listed on the Batman Gambit page just like it:
* In the \\\"Hush\\\" storyline, Batman finds himself facing off against a mind-controlled Superman, and is clearly physically outmatched. His solution is to have Catwoman dangle Lois Lane off a roof, and give Supes the choice of either saving her or continuing the fight.
* Metal Gear Solid features a hastily improvised Gambit (developed by the bad guys\\\' resident psychic, sensibly enough) which revolves around a single-use keycard which will toggle a nuclear weapon from \\\"active\\\" to \\\"inactive\\\" or vice-versa. The bad guys seem to accept that facing off against the hero is a suicidal masquerade to set up deathbed conversions and make the plan convincing.
* In Soul Nomad & the World Eaters Rakasha travels with you, confident you will be able to defeat the other World Eaters (who he views as rivals), then waits until you are trapped and helpless before striking
* Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix: Voldemort creates a false vision to trick Harry into believing he has Sirius trapped in the Hall of Prophecy, correctly guessing Harry would go to rescue him, finding the Prophecy instead, which Voldemort\\\'s Death Eaters could then steal.
* and so on.
Look, TropesAreFlexible. Go ahead and make a TRS thread if you feel strongly that Batman Gambit is suffering Trope Decay. But under the current definition, this is an example. There are plenty of other ones listed on the Batman Gambit page just like it:
* In the \\\"Hush\\\" storyline, Batman finds himself facing off against a mind-controlled Superman, and is clearly physically outmatched. His solution is to have Catwoman dangle Lois Lane off a roof, and give Supes the choice of either saving her or continuing the fight.
* Metal Gear Solid features a hastily improvised Gambit (developed by the bad guys\\\' resident psychic, sensibly enough) which revolves around a single-use keycard which will toggle a nuclear weapon from \\\"active\\\" to \\\"inactive\\\" or vice-versa. The bad guys seem to accept that facing off against the hero is a suicidal masquerade to set up deathbed conversions and make the plan convincing.
* In Soul Nomad & the World Eaters Rakasha travels with you, confident you will be able to defeat the other World Eaters (who he views as rivals), then waits until you are trapped and helpless before striking
* Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix: Voldemort creates a false vision to trick Harry into believing he has Sirius trapped in the Hall of Prophecy, correctly guessing Harry would go to rescue him, finding the Prophecy instead, which Voldemort\\\'s Death Eaters could then steal.
* and so on.
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Except the trope description says Batman Gambits include GenreSavvy individuals designing a plan to exploit TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin. \
to:
Except the trope description says Batman Gambits include GenreSavvy individuals designing a plan to exploit TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin. \\\"Reasonable action\\\" does not just mean \\\"reasonable choice\\\" but also \\\"reasonable outcome\\\", that earlier line would make absolutely no sense if it didn\\\'t. And failure and death is always a reasonable outcome.
Look, TropesAreFlexible. Go ahead and make a TRS thread if you feel strongly that Batman Gambit is suffering Trope Decay. But under the current definition, this is an example. There are plenty of other ones listed on the Batman Gambit page just like it:
* In the \\\"Hush\\\" storyline, Batman finds himself facing off against a mind-controlled Superman, and is clearly physically outmatched. His solution is to have Catwoman dangle Lois Lane off a roof, and give Supes the choice of either saving her or continuing the fight.
* Metal Gear Solid features a hastily improvised Gambit (developed by the bad guys\\\' resident psychic, sensibly enough) which revolves around a single-use keycard which will toggle a nuclear weapon from \\\"active\\\" to \\\"inactive\\\" or vice-versa. The bad guys seem to accept that facing off against the hero is a suicidal masquerade to set up deathbed conversions and make the plan convincing.
* In Soul Nomad & the World Eaters Rakasha travels with you, confident you will be able to defeat the other World Eaters (who he views as rivals), then waits until you are trapped and helpless before striking
* Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix: Voldemort creates a false vision to trick Harry into believing he has Sirius trapped in the Hall of Prophecy, correctly guessing Harry would go to rescue him, finding the Prophecy instead, which Voldemort\\\'s Death Eaters could then steal.
* and so on.
Look, TropesAreFlexible. Go ahead and make a TRS thread if you feel strongly that Batman Gambit is suffering Trope Decay. But under the current definition, this is an example. There are plenty of other ones listed on the Batman Gambit page just like it:
* In the \\\"Hush\\\" storyline, Batman finds himself facing off against a mind-controlled Superman, and is clearly physically outmatched. His solution is to have Catwoman dangle Lois Lane off a roof, and give Supes the choice of either saving her or continuing the fight.
* Metal Gear Solid features a hastily improvised Gambit (developed by the bad guys\\\' resident psychic, sensibly enough) which revolves around a single-use keycard which will toggle a nuclear weapon from \\\"active\\\" to \\\"inactive\\\" or vice-versa. The bad guys seem to accept that facing off against the hero is a suicidal masquerade to set up deathbed conversions and make the plan convincing.
* In Soul Nomad & the World Eaters Rakasha travels with you, confident you will be able to defeat the other World Eaters (who he views as rivals), then waits until you are trapped and helpless before striking
* Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix: Voldemort creates a false vision to trick Harry into believing he has Sirius trapped in the Hall of Prophecy, correctly guessing Harry would go to rescue him, finding the Prophecy instead, which Voldemort\\\'s Death Eaters could then steal.
* and so on.
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Except the trope description says Batman Gambits include GenreSavvy individuals designing a plan to exploit TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin. \
to:
Except the trope description says Batman Gambits include GenreSavvy individuals designing a plan to exploit TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin. \\\"Reasonable action\\\" does not just mean \\\"reasonable choice\\\" but also \\\"reasonable outcome\\\", that earlier line would make absolutely no sense if it didn\\\'t. And failure and death is always a reasonable outcome.
Look, TropesAreFlexible. Go ahead and make a TRS thread if you feel strongly that Batman Gambit is suffering Trope Decay. But under the current definition, this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' an example. There are plenty of other ones listed on the Batman Gambit page just like it:
* In the \\\"Hush\\\" storyline, Batman finds himself facing off against a mind-controlled Superman, and is clearly physically outmatched. His solution is to have Catwoman dangle Lois Lane off a roof, and give Supes the choice of either saving her or continuing the fight.
* Metal Gear Solid features a hastily improvised Gambit (developed by the bad guys\\\' resident psychic, sensibly enough) which revolves around a single-use keycard which will toggle a nuclear weapon from \\\"active\\\" to \\\"inactive\\\" or vice-versa. The bad guys seem to accept that facing off against the hero is a suicidal masquerade to set up deathbed conversions and make the plan convincing.
* In Soul Nomad & the World Eaters Rakasha travels with you, confident you will be able to defeat the other World Eaters (who he views as rivals), then waits until you are trapped and helpless before striking
* Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix: Voldemort creates a false vision to trick Harry into believing he has Sirius trapped in the Hall of Prophecy, correctly guessing Harry would go to rescue him, finding the Prophecy instead, which Voldemort\\\'s Death Eaters could then steal.
* and so on.
Look, TropesAreFlexible. Go ahead and make a TRS thread if you feel strongly that Batman Gambit is suffering Trope Decay. But under the current definition, this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' an example. There are plenty of other ones listed on the Batman Gambit page just like it:
* In the \\\"Hush\\\" storyline, Batman finds himself facing off against a mind-controlled Superman, and is clearly physically outmatched. His solution is to have Catwoman dangle Lois Lane off a roof, and give Supes the choice of either saving her or continuing the fight.
* Metal Gear Solid features a hastily improvised Gambit (developed by the bad guys\\\' resident psychic, sensibly enough) which revolves around a single-use keycard which will toggle a nuclear weapon from \\\"active\\\" to \\\"inactive\\\" or vice-versa. The bad guys seem to accept that facing off against the hero is a suicidal masquerade to set up deathbed conversions and make the plan convincing.
* In Soul Nomad & the World Eaters Rakasha travels with you, confident you will be able to defeat the other World Eaters (who he views as rivals), then waits until you are trapped and helpless before striking
* Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix: Voldemort creates a false vision to trick Harry into believing he has Sirius trapped in the Hall of Prophecy, correctly guessing Harry would go to rescue him, finding the Prophecy instead, which Voldemort\\\'s Death Eaters could then steal.
* and so on.
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Except the trope description says Batman Gambits include GenreSavvy individuals designing a plan to exploit TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin. \
to:
Except the trope description says Batman Gambits include GenreSavvy individuals designing a plan to exploit TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin. \\\"Reasonable action\\\" does not just mean \\\"reasonable choice\\\" but also \\\"reasonable outcome\\\". Failure and death is always a reasonable outcome.
Look, TropesAreFlexible. Go ahead and make a TRS thread if you feel strongly that Batman Gambit is suffering Trope Decay. But under the current definition, this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' an example. There are plenty of other ones listed on the Batman Gambit page just like it:
* In the \\\"Hush\\\" storyline, Batman finds himself facing off against a mind-controlled Superman, and is clearly physically outmatched. His solution is to have Catwoman dangle Lois Lane off a roof, and give Supes the choice of either saving her or continuing the fight.
* Metal Gear Solid features a hastily improvised Gambit (developed by the bad guys\\\' resident psychic, sensibly enough) which revolves around a single-use keycard which will toggle a nuclear weapon from \\\"active\\\" to \\\"inactive\\\" or vice-versa. The bad guys seem to accept that facing off against the hero is a suicidal masquerade to set up deathbed conversions and make the plan convincing.
* In Soul Nomad & the World Eaters Rakasha travels with you, confident you will be able to defeat the other World Eaters (who he views as rivals), then waits until you are trapped and helpless before striking
* Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix: Voldemort creates a false vision to trick Harry into believing he has Sirius trapped in the Hall of Prophecy, correctly guessing Harry would go to rescue him, finding the Prophecy instead, which Voldemort\\\'s Death Eaters could then steal.
* and so on.
Look, TropesAreFlexible. Go ahead and make a TRS thread if you feel strongly that Batman Gambit is suffering Trope Decay. But under the current definition, this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' an example. There are plenty of other ones listed on the Batman Gambit page just like it:
* In the \\\"Hush\\\" storyline, Batman finds himself facing off against a mind-controlled Superman, and is clearly physically outmatched. His solution is to have Catwoman dangle Lois Lane off a roof, and give Supes the choice of either saving her or continuing the fight.
* Metal Gear Solid features a hastily improvised Gambit (developed by the bad guys\\\' resident psychic, sensibly enough) which revolves around a single-use keycard which will toggle a nuclear weapon from \\\"active\\\" to \\\"inactive\\\" or vice-versa. The bad guys seem to accept that facing off against the hero is a suicidal masquerade to set up deathbed conversions and make the plan convincing.
* In Soul Nomad & the World Eaters Rakasha travels with you, confident you will be able to defeat the other World Eaters (who he views as rivals), then waits until you are trapped and helpless before striking
* Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix: Voldemort creates a false vision to trick Harry into believing he has Sirius trapped in the Hall of Prophecy, correctly guessing Harry would go to rescue him, finding the Prophecy instead, which Voldemort\\\'s Death Eaters could then steal.
* and so on.
