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The key to a BatmanGambit is that the victim does technically have a choice, but is being manipulated in such a way that they will always take the option foreseen by the gambler. And for this to work, there have to be at least two valid option. The Doctor however, doesn\\\'t have an option here, there is only one course of action left for him.

It would be a BatmanGambit if the Daleks had approached him and simply told him about the Asylum, then leaving the choice to help them up to him. Because they know that he would never let a horde of insane Daleks be released upon the universe, he would always choose to help them, making it not actually a free choice. That would be a gambit.

Also, why did you re-add the example? This discussion is not yet resolved and before we have come to a conclusion, the example is supposed to stay of the page.
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\\\"The key to making a Batman Gambit work is by carefully guiding and manipulating the motivations of those involved, so that the \\\"obvious\\\" course of action to them is to do what will make the gambit work and it never occurs to them to do things that would ruin the gambit.\\\"

The key to a BatmanGambit is that the victim does technically have a choice, but is being manipulated in such a way that they will always take the option foreseen by the gambler. And for this to work, there have to be at least two valid option. The Doctor however, doesn\\\'t have an option here, there is only one course of action left for him.

It would be a BatmanGambit if the Daleks had approached him and simply told him about the Asylum, then leaving the choice to help them up to him. Because they know that he would never let a horde of insane Daleks be released upon the universe, he would always choose to help them, making it not actually a free choice. That would be a gambit.

Also, why did you re-add the example? This discussion is not yet resolved and before we have come to a conclusion, the example is supposed to stay of the page.
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\\\"The key to making a Batman Gambit work is by carefully guiding and manipulating the motivations of those involved, so that the \\\"obvious\\\" course of action to them is to do what will make the gambit work and it never occurs to them to do things that would ruin the gambit.\\\"

The Doctor doesn\\\'t have an option here. The key to a BatmanGambit is that the victim does technically have a choice, but is being manipulated in such a way that they will always take the option foreseen by the gambler.

It would be a BatmanGambit if the Daleks had approached the Doctor and simply told him about the Asylum, then leaving the choice to help them up to him. Because they know that he would never let a horde of insane Daleks be released upon the universe, he would always choose to help them, making it not actually a free choice. That would be a gambit.

Also, why did you re-add the example? This discussion is not yet resolved and before we have come to a conclusion, the example is supposed to stay of the page.
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