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This is definitely a music trope - probably a cliché - but the term is being misused to represent just about any modulation at all. Examples need to be a little more cautiously minded.
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This is definitely a music trope - probably a cliché - but the term is being misused to represent just about any modulation at all. Examples need to be a little more cautiously minded.
Can I suggest possible greater categorization? Right now it\\\'s just \\\"Straight Examples\\\" and \\\"Parodies, Subversions, and Lampshade Hangings\\\" - perhaps categorizing the songs by their modulations would help clarify what is and what is not actually a TDGC. My understanding of the trope is that it\\\'s a stepwise modulation before the final verse and/or chorus of a number, which gives you entries like this:
\\\"Billy Joel does have one example: \\\"Tell Her About It\\\", which is in B-flat for the verses and F for the choruses (the outro is the chorus in B-flat).\\\"
... which is patently NOT a gear change, but just a simple modulation between keys for verse and chorus, and suggesting that any picee with a modulation should qualify reaches PeopleSitOnChairs levels, or this:
\\\"[...]Tarja\\\'s \\\"Come Cover Me\\\" (going up a perfect fourth from D to G),[...]\\\"
which is less obvious, since it meets the temporal requirement (i.e. modulation for the last verse and/or chorus) but not the stepwise requirement.
So I would suggest the following categories:
- Typical examples, modulation up one step before the last verse/chorus
- Inversions, modulation \\\'\\\'down\\\'\\\' one step before the last verse/chorus
- Other modulations before the last verse/chorus
Parodies, Subversions, Lampshading, etc... can be slotted in to their respective categories, as can songs with multiple shifts.
Can I suggest possible greater categorization? Right now it\\\'s just \\\"Straight Examples\\\" and \\\"Parodies, Subversions, and Lampshade Hangings\\\" - perhaps categorizing the songs by their modulations would help clarify what is and what is not actually a TDGC. My understanding of the trope is that it\\\'s a stepwise modulation before the final verse and/or chorus of a number, which gives you entries like this:
\\\"Billy Joel does have one example: \\\"Tell Her About It\\\", which is in B-flat for the verses and F for the choruses (the outro is the chorus in B-flat).\\\"
... which is patently NOT a gear change, but just a simple modulation between keys for verse and chorus, and suggesting that any picee with a modulation should qualify reaches PeopleSitOnChairs levels, or this:
\\\"[...]Tarja\\\'s \\\"Come Cover Me\\\" (going up a perfect fourth from D to G),[...]\\\"
which is less obvious, since it meets the temporal requirement (i.e. modulation for the last verse and/or chorus) but not the stepwise requirement.
So I would suggest the following categories:
- Typical examples, modulation up one step before the last verse/chorus
- Inversions, modulation \\\'\\\'down\\\'\\\' one step before the last verse/chorus
- Other modulations before the last verse/chorus
Parodies, Subversions, Lampshading, etc... can be slotted in to their respective categories, as can songs with multiple shifts.
