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***[[FanDumb These fangirls]] claiming [[{{Fanon}} pedophilia filler anime yaoi]] as canon,[[TheyJustDidntCare just don\'t care for the manga at all!!]] [[{{Canon}} Because Ginta and Phantom BOTH had female love interests in the manga, Alviss hates Phantom-and wants him dead, and Rolan is just freaking loyal!!]] [[FanDumb But why would they want to]] [[EpicFail pay attention to canon manga]] [[YouFailLogicForever to begin with???]]-[[HetIsEw After all, who wants to read about Phantom and Ginta being straight]], [[ItsPersonal Alviss hating Phantom\'s undead guts and wanting him dead,]] [[IOweYouMyLife or Rolan, just being grateful and admiring Phantom for saving his life and raising him since he was a little kid?]] [[FanDumb BORING!!]] [[DieForOurShip Girls suck anyway!]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Being indebted to someone is boring unless Bromance is involved!]] [[FoeYay And hatred and revenge isn\'t sexy enough, put in some \
to:
***[[FanDumb These fangirls]] claiming [[{{Fanon}} pedophilia filler anime yaoi]] as canon,[[TheyJustDidntCare just don\\\'t care for the manga at all!!]] [[{{Canon}} Because Ginta and Phantom BOTH had female love interests in the manga, Alviss hates Phantom-and wants him dead, and Rolan is just freaking loyal!!]] [[FanDumb But why would they want to]] [[EpicFail pay attention to canon manga]] [[YouFailLogicForever to begin with???]]-[[HetIsEw After all, who wants to read about Phantom and Ginta being straight]], [[ItsPersonal Alviss hating Phantom\\\'s undead guts and wanting him dead,]] [[IOweYouMyLife or Rolan, just being grateful and admiring Phantom for saving his life and raising him since he was a little kid?]] [[FanDumb BORING!!]] [[DieForOurShip Girls suck anyway!]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Being indebted to someone is boring unless Bromance is involved!]] [[FoeYay And hatred and revenge isn\\\'t sexy enough, put in some \\\"Gay-For-My-Nemisis!]]
***[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Because]] the evil living corpse/30 year old undead guy, paired with either the... \\\'\\\'\\\'teenage\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: loyal mook who owes Phantom his life and admires him]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Girly Uke Baddie Follower]]-who is just so much in love with Phantom! Or the \\\'\\\'\\\'16 year old\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: kid who hates Phantom with all his being, wants to avenge his fallen comrades and Danna, plus avenge himself for being cursed by Evil Zombie]] [[EmoKid Depressed Bishounen Dude]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation whose]] [[FoeYay obsession]] with Phantom has nothing to do with hatred, but that he\\\'s secretly pining for the guy-and Phantom is totally pining for the sexy emo kid too!! Or a \\\'\\\'\\\'14 year old\\\'\\\'\\\'[[strike: boy, who despises Phantom for hurting innocent people, destorying the world, playing with lives as if it were some sort of game, and [[spoiler: killing his father]]]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Ultimate Uke]] with [[CuteShotaroBoy big blue eyes]]-[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation that Phantom]] sees what\\\'s so special about him-and wants that cute little Uke to be \\\'\\\'all just for his Seme self!\\\'\\\'-[[CompletelyMissingThePoint It has nothing to do with]] Phantom seeing him as an Worthy Foe/Exciting New Challenge. [[SarcasmMode Heck yes]], because [[SelectiveSquick Olderman/Teenageboy]] pairings are [[CovertPervert TOTALLY]] [[FetishFuel HAWT!]]
**[[YouFailLogicForever DID THIS REALLY HAVE TO]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint BE POINTED AND SPELLED OUT,]] [[SelectiveSquick FOR PEDOPHILE LOVING FANGIRLS?!]]
***[[WallBanger Well]] [[EpicFail apparently]]...[[FacePalm yes!]]
*I wouldn\\\'t really call this {{Fan Dumb}}. Yaoi fangirls do this to all anime/manga/video games so I don\\\'t see the big deal of pairing Phantom up with anybody. If you think Phantom is a bad age, look at the Twitards who worship the ground of Edward Cullen, and he\\\'s over 100 something years old. -_-
* FoeYay - [an example]
** Cept that was anime filler. In the manga, Phantom does NOT ever put moves on Alviss, because in the manga, Phantom is STRAIGHT (has a lover who is dead now-plus his attraction to the Queen) [[ExecutiveMeddling The animators]] [[PanderingToTheBase made him Bi]] [[FetishFuel for]] [[YaoiFangirl obvious]] [[FanService reasons]].
* HoYay - [a comment]
** Obviously, see FoeYay, if people still don\\\'t believe that its Filler, and in the [[Canon manga]] Phantom wasn\\\'t Bi [[FanDumb (or gay for that matter)!]]
***And he certianly is heck, wasn\\\'t a pedophile! Seriously, it\\\'s like they didn\\\'t even CARE that Phantom was 30 years old and [[{{Squick}} Alviss is 16!]]
**** Worse, there was some subtext in there that about Phantom and Ginta...and [[{{Squick Ginta}} is 14!]] Who looks like he\\\'s [[CuteShotaroBoy really 10-12!]]
**While some would argue that Phantom\\\'s Body stopped aging, in the time he recieved the zombie tattoo had to be in between the space of 4 years. So unless Phantom had a rapid spreading zombie tattoo (compared to Rolan, Peta, and Alviss-whose curses are taking clearly a far longer time to spread before the undead transformation completes) It\\\'s safe to assume it has taken him probably 2-4 years for it to complete. (Since he was undead at the start of the first war games, and Phantom broke out of prison with Diana 4 years prior) Which would mean Phantom would of have to of been either somewhere in between 22-24 when he stopped aging. In other words...still [[{{Squick}} squickish]] when you consider people pairing him up with 16-17 year olds like Alviss and Rolan, or 14 year olds like Ginta! Being that in the canon manga Phantom isn\\\'t some Bi/Gay pedophile, is already a point in itself...but at least the Phantom/Peta yaoi pairing-are pairing up these 2 peers, instead of the [[YaoiFangirl Other Fangirls wanting Phantom to get all squicky with minors!]]
***[[FetishFuel Does]] [[SelectiveSquick this]] [[FanService really]] [[FanDumb honestly]] [[HetIsEw surprise]] [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls you?!]] [[ExecutiveMeddling I]] [[PanderingToTheBase mean,]] [[SlashFic this]] [[DieForOurShip is]] [[YaoiFangirl Hardcore Yaoi Shippers]] [[SeriousBusiness we\\\'re]] [[CovertPervert talking]] [[FanDisillusionment about]]!
* IHaveYouNowMyPretty - [an example]
** [[SarcasmMode You forgot]] to mention [[{{Filler}} \\\"Filler\\\"]] afer the word [[AdaptationDecay \\\'\\\'entire\\\'\\\']].
* MindGameShip - [an example]
**[[CompletelyMissingThePoint Don\\\'t]] [[AdaptationDecay Forget]] {{Filler}}!
* SeasonalRot - [an example, followed by a comment]
**While the final battles and more drawn out, I have to agree with the first troper...too much Dorothy Fanservice, the Tokyo and Zonnen filler arcs were annoying...and let\\\'s not even get into the [[CharacterDerailment character assassinations]],[[PanderingToTheBase fanon OOC yaoi filler]], or the [[AdaptationDecay Overall Pointless-ness of it! Filled with Pointless Anime-Only Characters and Pointless Plot that dragged on and was a waste of time!]]
**This troper does not see this as {{Adaption Decay}}. Rather {{Adapation Expansion}} because there\\\'s mass {{character development}} expanded battles that aren\\\'t {{curb stomp battles}}. Personally, all of these comments I read are just people complaining in general about how the series turned into yaoi fodder for female watchers. Which by the way is {{double standard}} because you don\\\'t see the {{yaoi fangirls}} complaining about all the [[GirlonGirlisHot Dorothy fanservice]].
* YaoiFangirl - [a comment]
**[[AdaptationDecay If you just watched the anime]] and didn\\\'t [[{{Canon}} read the manga]], [[CompletelyMissingThePoint you wouldn\\\'t of realized]] that while she was indeed dedicated to Phantom-even if her love was one-sided...Phantom has no gay attraction with Alviss or Rolan in the [[{{Canon}} Manga]]so obviously, Candice never is \\\"ok\\\" with Phantom being Bi/Gay-because he never was [[DisContinueity TOO BEGIN WITH!]] In the [[{{Canon}} Manga]], as stated, she was only ok with her love being one-sided.
*** Also, since when does [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy accepting your crush is not]] sexually attracted to you, and to the other gender...[[CompletelyMissingThePoint make you a yaoi fangirl?]]
***[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Because]] the evil living corpse/30 year old undead guy, paired with either the... \\\'\\\'\\\'teenage\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: loyal mook who owes Phantom his life and admires him]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Girly Uke Baddie Follower]]-who is just so much in love with Phantom! Or the \\\'\\\'\\\'16 year old\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: kid who hates Phantom with all his being, wants to avenge his fallen comrades and Danna, plus avenge himself for being cursed by Evil Zombie]] [[EmoKid Depressed Bishounen Dude]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation whose]] [[FoeYay obsession]] with Phantom has nothing to do with hatred, but that he\\\'s secretly pining for the guy-and Phantom is totally pining for the sexy emo kid too!! Or a \\\'\\\'\\\'14 year old\\\'\\\'\\\'[[strike: boy, who despises Phantom for hurting innocent people, destorying the world, playing with lives as if it were some sort of game, and [[spoiler: killing his father]]]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Ultimate Uke]] with [[CuteShotaroBoy big blue eyes]]-[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation that Phantom]] sees what\\\'s so special about him-and wants that cute little Uke to be \\\'\\\'all just for his Seme self!\\\'\\\'-[[CompletelyMissingThePoint It has nothing to do with]] Phantom seeing him as an Worthy Foe/Exciting New Challenge. [[SarcasmMode Heck yes]], because [[SelectiveSquick Olderman/Teenageboy]] pairings are [[CovertPervert TOTALLY]] [[FetishFuel HAWT!]]
**[[YouFailLogicForever DID THIS REALLY HAVE TO]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint BE POINTED AND SPELLED OUT,]] [[SelectiveSquick FOR PEDOPHILE LOVING FANGIRLS?!]]
***[[WallBanger Well]] [[EpicFail apparently]]...[[FacePalm yes!]]
*I wouldn\\\'t really call this {{Fan Dumb}}. Yaoi fangirls do this to all anime/manga/video games so I don\\\'t see the big deal of pairing Phantom up with anybody. If you think Phantom is a bad age, look at the Twitards who worship the ground of Edward Cullen, and he\\\'s over 100 something years old. -_-
* FoeYay - [an example]
** Cept that was anime filler. In the manga, Phantom does NOT ever put moves on Alviss, because in the manga, Phantom is STRAIGHT (has a lover who is dead now-plus his attraction to the Queen) [[ExecutiveMeddling The animators]] [[PanderingToTheBase made him Bi]] [[FetishFuel for]] [[YaoiFangirl obvious]] [[FanService reasons]].
* HoYay - [a comment]
** Obviously, see FoeYay, if people still don\\\'t believe that its Filler, and in the [[Canon manga]] Phantom wasn\\\'t Bi [[FanDumb (or gay for that matter)!]]
***And he certianly is heck, wasn\\\'t a pedophile! Seriously, it\\\'s like they didn\\\'t even CARE that Phantom was 30 years old and [[{{Squick}} Alviss is 16!]]
**** Worse, there was some subtext in there that about Phantom and Ginta...and [[{{Squick Ginta}} is 14!]] Who looks like he\\\'s [[CuteShotaroBoy really 10-12!]]
**While some would argue that Phantom\\\'s Body stopped aging, in the time he recieved the zombie tattoo had to be in between the space of 4 years. So unless Phantom had a rapid spreading zombie tattoo (compared to Rolan, Peta, and Alviss-whose curses are taking clearly a far longer time to spread before the undead transformation completes) It\\\'s safe to assume it has taken him probably 2-4 years for it to complete. (Since he was undead at the start of the first war games, and Phantom broke out of prison with Diana 4 years prior) Which would mean Phantom would of have to of been either somewhere in between 22-24 when he stopped aging. In other words...still [[{{Squick}} squickish]] when you consider people pairing him up with 16-17 year olds like Alviss and Rolan, or 14 year olds like Ginta! Being that in the canon manga Phantom isn\\\'t some Bi/Gay pedophile, is already a point in itself...but at least the Phantom/Peta yaoi pairing-are pairing up these 2 peers, instead of the [[YaoiFangirl Other Fangirls wanting Phantom to get all squicky with minors!]]
***[[FetishFuel Does]] [[SelectiveSquick this]] [[FanService really]] [[FanDumb honestly]] [[HetIsEw surprise]] [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls you?!]] [[ExecutiveMeddling I]] [[PanderingToTheBase mean,]] [[SlashFic this]] [[DieForOurShip is]] [[YaoiFangirl Hardcore Yaoi Shippers]] [[SeriousBusiness we\\\'re]] [[CovertPervert talking]] [[FanDisillusionment about]]!
* IHaveYouNowMyPretty - [an example]
** [[SarcasmMode You forgot]] to mention [[{{Filler}} \\\"Filler\\\"]] afer the word [[AdaptationDecay \\\'\\\'entire\\\'\\\']].
* MindGameShip - [an example]
**[[CompletelyMissingThePoint Don\\\'t]] [[AdaptationDecay Forget]] {{Filler}}!
* SeasonalRot - [an example, followed by a comment]
**While the final battles and more drawn out, I have to agree with the first troper...too much Dorothy Fanservice, the Tokyo and Zonnen filler arcs were annoying...and let\\\'s not even get into the [[CharacterDerailment character assassinations]],[[PanderingToTheBase fanon OOC yaoi filler]], or the [[AdaptationDecay Overall Pointless-ness of it! Filled with Pointless Anime-Only Characters and Pointless Plot that dragged on and was a waste of time!]]
**This troper does not see this as {{Adaption Decay}}. Rather {{Adapation Expansion}} because there\\\'s mass {{character development}} expanded battles that aren\\\'t {{curb stomp battles}}. Personally, all of these comments I read are just people complaining in general about how the series turned into yaoi fodder for female watchers. Which by the way is {{double standard}} because you don\\\'t see the {{yaoi fangirls}} complaining about all the [[GirlonGirlisHot Dorothy fanservice]].
* YaoiFangirl - [a comment]
**[[AdaptationDecay If you just watched the anime]] and didn\\\'t [[{{Canon}} read the manga]], [[CompletelyMissingThePoint you wouldn\\\'t of realized]] that while she was indeed dedicated to Phantom-even if her love was one-sided...Phantom has no gay attraction with Alviss or Rolan in the [[{{Canon}} Manga]]so obviously, Candice never is \\\"ok\\\" with Phantom being Bi/Gay-because he never was [[DisContinueity TOO BEGIN WITH!]] In the [[{{Canon}} Manga]], as stated, she was only ok with her love being one-sided.
*** Also, since when does [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy accepting your crush is not]] sexually attracted to you, and to the other gender...[[CompletelyMissingThePoint make you a yaoi fangirl?]]
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***[[FanDumb These fangirls]] claiming [[{{Fanon}} pedophilia filler anime yaoi]] as canon,[[TheyJustDidntCare just don\'t care for the manga at all!!]] [[{{Canon}} Because Ginta and Phantom BOTH had female love interests in the manga, Alviss hates Phantom-and wants him dead, and Rolan is just freaking loyal!!]] [[FanDumb But why would they want to]] [[EpicFail pay attention to canon manga]] [[YouFailLogicForever to begin with???]]-[[HetIsEw After all, who wants to read about Phantom and Ginta being straight]], [[ItsPersonal Alviss hating Phantom\'s undead guts and wanting him dead,]] [[IOweYouMyLife or Rolan, just being grateful and admiring Phantom for saving his life and raising him since he was a little kid?]] [[FanDumb BORING!!]] [[DieForOurShip Girls suck anyway!]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Being indebted to someone is boring unless Bromance is involved!]] [[FoeYay And hatred and revenge isn\'t sexy enough, put in some \
to:
***[[FanDumb These fangirls]] claiming [[{{Fanon}} pedophilia filler anime yaoi]] as canon,[[TheyJustDidntCare just don\\\'t care for the manga at all!!]] [[{{Canon}} Because Ginta and Phantom BOTH had female love interests in the manga, Alviss hates Phantom-and wants him dead, and Rolan is just freaking loyal!!]] [[FanDumb But why would they want to]] [[EpicFail pay attention to canon manga]] [[YouFailLogicForever to begin with???]]-[[HetIsEw After all, who wants to read about Phantom and Ginta being straight]], [[ItsPersonal Alviss hating Phantom\\\'s undead guts and wanting him dead,]] [[IOweYouMyLife or Rolan, just being grateful and admiring Phantom for saving his life and raising him since he was a little kid?]] [[FanDumb BORING!!]] [[DieForOurShip Girls suck anyway!]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Being indebted to someone is boring unless Bromance is involved!]] [[FoeYay And hatred and revenge isn\\\'t sexy enough, put in some \\\"Gay-For-My-Nemisis!]]
***[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Because]] the evil living corpse/30 year old undead guy, paired with either the... \\\'\\\'\\\'teenage\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: loyal mook who owes Phantom his life and admires him]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Girly Uke Baddie Follower]]-who is just so much in love with Phantom! Or the \\\'\\\'\\\'16 year old\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: kid who hates Phantom with all his being, wants to avenge his fallen comrades and Danna, plus avenge himself for being cursed by Evil Zombie]] [[EmoKid Depressed Bishounen Dude]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation whose]] [[FoeYay obsession]] with Phantom has nothing to do with hatred, but that he\\\'s secretly pining for the guy-and Phantom is totally pining for the sexy emo kid too!! Or a \\\'\\\'\\\'14 year old\\\'\\\'\\\'[[strike: boy, who despises Phantom for hurting innocent people, destorying the world, playing with lives as if it were some sort of game, and [[spoiler: killing his father]]]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Ultimate Uke]] with [[CuteShotaroBoy big blue eyes]]-[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation that Phantom]] sees what\\\'s so special about him-and wants that cute little Uke to be \\\'\\\'all just for his Seme self!\\\'\\\'-[[CompletelyMissingThePoint It has nothing to do with]] Phantom seeing him as an Worthy Foe/Exciting New Challenge. [[SarcasmMode Heck yes]], because [[SelectiveSquick Olderman/Teenageboy]] pairings are [[CovertPervert TOTALLY]] [[FetishFuel HAWT!]]
**[[YouFailLogicForever DID THIS REALLY HAVE TO]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint BE POINTED AND SPELLED OUT,]] [[SelectiveSquick FOR PEDOPHILE LOVING FANGIRLS?!]]
***[[WallBanger Well]] [[EpicFail apparently]]...[[FacePalm yes!]]
*I wouldn\\\'t really call this {{Fan Dumb}}. Yaoi fangirls do this to all anime/manga/video games so I don\\\'t see the big deal of pairing Phantom up with anybody. If you think Phantom is a bad age, look at the Twitards who worship the ground of Edward Cullen, and he\\\'s over 100 something years old. -_-
* FoeYay - [an example]
** Cept that was anime filler. In the manga, Phantom does NOT ever put moves on Alviss, because in the manga, Phantom is STRAIGHT (has a lover who is dead now-plus his attraction to the Queen) [[ExecutiveMeddling The animators]] [[PanderingToTheBase made him Bi]] [[FetishFuel for]] [[YaoiFangirl obvious]] [[FanService reasons]].
* HoYay - [a comment]
** Obviously, see FoeYay, if people still don\\\'t believe that its Filler, and in the [[Canon manga]] Phantom wasn\\\'t Bi [[FanDumb (or gay for that matter)!]]
***And he certianly is heck, wasn\\\'t a pedophile! Seriously, it\\\'s like they didn\\\'t even CARE that Phantom was 30 years old and [[{{Squick}} Alviss is 16!]]
**** Worse, there was some subtext in there that about Phantom and Ginta...and [[{{Squick Ginta}} is 14!]] Who looks like he\\\'s [[CuteShotaroBoy really 10-12!]]
**While some would argue that Phantom\\\'s Body stopped aging, in the time he recieved the zombie tattoo had to be in between the space of 4 years. So unless Phantom had a rapid spreading zombie tattoo (compared to Rolan, Peta, and Alviss-whose curses are taking clearly a far longer time to spread before the undead transformation completes) It\\\'s safe to assume it has taken him probably 2-4 years for it to complete. (Since he was undead at the start of the first war games, and Phantom broke out of prison with Diana 4 years prior) Which would mean Phantom would of have to of been either somewhere in between 22-24 when he stopped aging. In other words...still [[{{Squick}} squickish]] when you consider people pairing him up with 16-17 year olds like Alviss and Rolan, or 14 year olds like Ginta! Being that in the canon manga Phantom isn\\\'t some Bi/Gay pedophile, is already a point in itself...but at least the Phantom/Peta yaoi pairing-are pairing up these 2 peers, instead of the [[YaoiFangirl Other Fangirls wanting Phantom to get all squicky with minors!]]
***[[FetishFuel Does]] [[SelectiveSquick this]] [[FanService really]] [[FanDumb honestly]] [[HetIsEw surprise]] [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls you?!]] [[ExecutiveMeddling I]] [[PanderingToTheBase mean,]] [[SlashFic this]] [[DieForOurShip is]] [[YaoiFangirl Hardcore Yaoi Shippers]] [[SeriousBusiness we\\\'re]] [[CovertPervert talking]] [[FanDisillusionment about]]!
* IHaveYouNowMyPretty - [an example]
** [[SarcasmMode You forgot]] to mention [[{{Filler}} \\\"Filler\\\"]] afer the word [[AdaptationDecay \\\'\\\'entire\\\'\\\']].
* MindGameShip - [an example]
**[[CompletelyMissingThePoint Don\\\'t]] [[AdaptationDecay Forget]] {{Filler}}!
* SeasonalRot - [an example, followed by a comment]
**While the final battles and more drawn out, I have to agree with the first troper...too much Dorothy Fanservice, the Tokyo and Zonnen filler arcs were annoying...and let\\\'s not even get into the [[CharacterDerailment character assassinations]],[[PanderingToTheBase fanon OOC yaoi filler]], or the [[AdaptationDecay Overall Pointless-ness of it! Filled with Pointless Anime-Only Characters and Pointless Plot that dragged on and was a waste of time!]]
* YaoiFangirl - [a comment]
**[[AdaptationDecay If you just watched the anime]] and didn\\\'t [[{{Canon}} read the manga]], [[CompletelyMissingThePoint you wouldn\\\'t of realized]] that while she was indeed dedicated to Phantom-even if her love was one-sided...Phantom has no gay attraction with Alviss or Rolan in the [[{{Canon}} Manga]]so obviously, Candice never is \\\"ok\\\" with Phantom being Bi/Gay-because he never was [[DisContinueity TOO BEGIN WITH!]] In the [[{{Canon}} Manga]], as stated, she was only ok with her love being one-sided.
*** Also, since when does [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy accepting your crush is not]] sexually attracted to you, and to the other gender...[[CompletelyMissingThePoint make you a yaoi fangirl?]]
***[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Because]] the evil living corpse/30 year old undead guy, paired with either the... \\\'\\\'\\\'teenage\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: loyal mook who owes Phantom his life and admires him]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Girly Uke Baddie Follower]]-who is just so much in love with Phantom! Or the \\\'\\\'\\\'16 year old\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: kid who hates Phantom with all his being, wants to avenge his fallen comrades and Danna, plus avenge himself for being cursed by Evil Zombie]] [[EmoKid Depressed Bishounen Dude]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation whose]] [[FoeYay obsession]] with Phantom has nothing to do with hatred, but that he\\\'s secretly pining for the guy-and Phantom is totally pining for the sexy emo kid too!! Or a \\\'\\\'\\\'14 year old\\\'\\\'\\\'[[strike: boy, who despises Phantom for hurting innocent people, destorying the world, playing with lives as if it were some sort of game, and [[spoiler: killing his father]]]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Ultimate Uke]] with [[CuteShotaroBoy big blue eyes]]-[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation that Phantom]] sees what\\\'s so special about him-and wants that cute little Uke to be \\\'\\\'all just for his Seme self!\\\'\\\'-[[CompletelyMissingThePoint It has nothing to do with]] Phantom seeing him as an Worthy Foe/Exciting New Challenge. [[SarcasmMode Heck yes]], because [[SelectiveSquick Olderman/Teenageboy]] pairings are [[CovertPervert TOTALLY]] [[FetishFuel HAWT!]]
**[[YouFailLogicForever DID THIS REALLY HAVE TO]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint BE POINTED AND SPELLED OUT,]] [[SelectiveSquick FOR PEDOPHILE LOVING FANGIRLS?!]]
***[[WallBanger Well]] [[EpicFail apparently]]...[[FacePalm yes!]]
*I wouldn\\\'t really call this {{Fan Dumb}}. Yaoi fangirls do this to all anime/manga/video games so I don\\\'t see the big deal of pairing Phantom up with anybody. If you think Phantom is a bad age, look at the Twitards who worship the ground of Edward Cullen, and he\\\'s over 100 something years old. -_-
* FoeYay - [an example]
** Cept that was anime filler. In the manga, Phantom does NOT ever put moves on Alviss, because in the manga, Phantom is STRAIGHT (has a lover who is dead now-plus his attraction to the Queen) [[ExecutiveMeddling The animators]] [[PanderingToTheBase made him Bi]] [[FetishFuel for]] [[YaoiFangirl obvious]] [[FanService reasons]].
* HoYay - [a comment]
** Obviously, see FoeYay, if people still don\\\'t believe that its Filler, and in the [[Canon manga]] Phantom wasn\\\'t Bi [[FanDumb (or gay for that matter)!]]
***And he certianly is heck, wasn\\\'t a pedophile! Seriously, it\\\'s like they didn\\\'t even CARE that Phantom was 30 years old and [[{{Squick}} Alviss is 16!]]
**** Worse, there was some subtext in there that about Phantom and Ginta...and [[{{Squick Ginta}} is 14!]] Who looks like he\\\'s [[CuteShotaroBoy really 10-12!]]
**While some would argue that Phantom\\\'s Body stopped aging, in the time he recieved the zombie tattoo had to be in between the space of 4 years. So unless Phantom had a rapid spreading zombie tattoo (compared to Rolan, Peta, and Alviss-whose curses are taking clearly a far longer time to spread before the undead transformation completes) It\\\'s safe to assume it has taken him probably 2-4 years for it to complete. (Since he was undead at the start of the first war games, and Phantom broke out of prison with Diana 4 years prior) Which would mean Phantom would of have to of been either somewhere in between 22-24 when he stopped aging. In other words...still [[{{Squick}} squickish]] when you consider people pairing him up with 16-17 year olds like Alviss and Rolan, or 14 year olds like Ginta! Being that in the canon manga Phantom isn\\\'t some Bi/Gay pedophile, is already a point in itself...but at least the Phantom/Peta yaoi pairing-are pairing up these 2 peers, instead of the [[YaoiFangirl Other Fangirls wanting Phantom to get all squicky with minors!]]
***[[FetishFuel Does]] [[SelectiveSquick this]] [[FanService really]] [[FanDumb honestly]] [[HetIsEw surprise]] [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls you?!]] [[ExecutiveMeddling I]] [[PanderingToTheBase mean,]] [[SlashFic this]] [[DieForOurShip is]] [[YaoiFangirl Hardcore Yaoi Shippers]] [[SeriousBusiness we\\\'re]] [[CovertPervert talking]] [[FanDisillusionment about]]!
* IHaveYouNowMyPretty - [an example]
** [[SarcasmMode You forgot]] to mention [[{{Filler}} \\\"Filler\\\"]] afer the word [[AdaptationDecay \\\'\\\'entire\\\'\\\']].
* MindGameShip - [an example]
**[[CompletelyMissingThePoint Don\\\'t]] [[AdaptationDecay Forget]] {{Filler}}!
* SeasonalRot - [an example, followed by a comment]
**While the final battles and more drawn out, I have to agree with the first troper...too much Dorothy Fanservice, the Tokyo and Zonnen filler arcs were annoying...and let\\\'s not even get into the [[CharacterDerailment character assassinations]],[[PanderingToTheBase fanon OOC yaoi filler]], or the [[AdaptationDecay Overall Pointless-ness of it! Filled with Pointless Anime-Only Characters and Pointless Plot that dragged on and was a waste of time!]]
* YaoiFangirl - [a comment]
**[[AdaptationDecay If you just watched the anime]] and didn\\\'t [[{{Canon}} read the manga]], [[CompletelyMissingThePoint you wouldn\\\'t of realized]] that while she was indeed dedicated to Phantom-even if her love was one-sided...Phantom has no gay attraction with Alviss or Rolan in the [[{{Canon}} Manga]]so obviously, Candice never is \\\"ok\\\" with Phantom being Bi/Gay-because he never was [[DisContinueity TOO BEGIN WITH!]] In the [[{{Canon}} Manga]], as stated, she was only ok with her love being one-sided.
*** Also, since when does [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy accepting your crush is not]] sexually attracted to you, and to the other gender...[[CompletelyMissingThePoint make you a yaoi fangirl?]]
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***[[FanDumb These fangirls]] claiming [[{{Fanon}} pedophilia filler anime yaoi]] as canon,[[TheyJustDidntCare just don\'t care for the manga at all!!]] [[{{Canon}} Because Ginta and Phantom BOTH had female love interests in the manga, Alviss hates Phantom-and wants him dead, and Rolan is just freaking loyal!!]] [[FanDumb But why would they want to]] [[EpicFail pay attention to canon manga]] [[YouFailLogicForever to begin with???]]-[[HetIsEw After all, who wants to read about Phantom and Ginta being straight]], [[ItsPersonal Alviss hating Phantom\'s undead guts and wanting him dead,]] [[IOweYouMyLife or Rolan, just being grateful and admiring Phantom for saving his life and raising him since he was a little kid?]] [[FanDumb BORING!!]] [[DieForOurShip Girls suck anyway!]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Being indebted to someone is boring unless Bromance is involved!]] [[FoeYay And hatred and revenge isn\'t sexy enough, put in some \
to:
***[[FanDumb These fangirls]] claiming [[{{Fanon}} pedophilia filler anime yaoi]] as canon,[[TheyJustDidntCare just don\\\'t care for the manga at all!!]] [[{{Canon}} Because Ginta and Phantom BOTH had female love interests in the manga, Alviss hates Phantom-and wants him dead, and Rolan is just freaking loyal!!]] [[FanDumb But why would they want to]] [[EpicFail pay attention to canon manga]] [[YouFailLogicForever to begin with???]]-[[HetIsEw After all, who wants to read about Phantom and Ginta being straight]], [[ItsPersonal Alviss hating Phantom\\\'s undead guts and wanting him dead,]] [[IOweYouMyLife or Rolan, just being grateful and admiring Phantom for saving his life and raising him since he was a little kid?]] [[FanDumb BORING!!]] [[DieForOurShip Girls suck anyway!]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Being indebted to someone is boring unless Bromance is involved!]] [[FoeYay And hatred and revenge isn\\\'t sexy enough, put in some \\\"Gay-For-My-Nemisis!]]
***[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Because]] the evil living corpse/30 year old undead guy, paired with either the... \\\'\\\'\\\'teenage\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: loyal mook who owes Phantom his life and admires him]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Girly Uke Baddie Follower]]-who is just so much in love with Phantom! Or the \\\'\\\'\\\'16 year old\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: kid who hates Phantom with all his being, wants to avenge his fallen comrades and Danna, plus avenge himself for being cursed by Evil Zombie]] [[EmoKid Depressed Bishounen Dude]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation whose]] [[FoeYay obsession]] with Phantom has nothing to do with hatred, but that he\\\'s secretly pining for the guy-and Phantom is totally pining for the sexy emo kid too!! Or a \\\'\\\'\\\'14 year old\\\'\\\'\\\'[[strike: boy, who despises Phantom for hurting innocent people, destorying the world, playing with lives as if it were some sort of game, and [[spoiler: killing his father]]]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Ultimate Uke]] with [[CuteShotaroBoy big blue eyes]]-[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation that Phantom]] sees what\\\'s so special about him-and wants that cute little Uke to be \\\'\\\'all just for his Seme self!\\\'\\\'-[[CompletelyMissingThePoint It has nothing to do with]] Phantom seeing him as an Worthy Foe/Exciting New Challenge. [[SarcasmMode Heck yes]], because [[SelectiveSquick Olderman/Teenageboy]] pairings are [[CovertPervert TOTALLY]] [[FetishFuel HAWT!]]
**[[YouFailLogicForever DID THIS REALLY HAVE TO]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint BE POINTED AND SPELLED OUT,]] [[SelectiveSquick FOR PEDOPHILE LOVING FANGIRLS?!]]
***[[WallBanger Well]] [[EpicFail apparently]]...[[FacePalm yes!]]
* FoeYay - [an example]
** Cept that was anime filler. In the manga, Phantom does NOT ever put moves on Alviss, because in the manga, Phantom is STRAIGHT (has a lover who is dead now-plus his attraction to the Queen) [[ExecutiveMeddling The animators]] [[PanderingToTheBase made him Bi]] [[FetishFuel for]] [[YaoiFangirl obvious]] [[FanService reasons]].
* HoYay - [a comment]
** Obviously, see FoeYay, if people still don\\\'t believe that its Filler, and in the [[Canon manga]] Phantom wasn\\\'t Bi [[FanDumb (or gay for that matter)!]]
***And he certianly is heck, wasn\\\'t a pedophile! Seriously, it\\\'s like they didn\\\'t even CARE that Phantom was 30 years old and [[{{Squick}} Alviss is 16!]]
**** Worse, there was some subtext in there that about Phantom and Ginta...and [[{{Squick Ginta}} is 14!]] Who looks like he\\\'s [[CuteShotaroBoy really 10-12!]]
**While some would argue that Phantom\\\'s Body stopped aging, in the time he recieved the zombie tattoo had to be in between the space of 4 years. So unless Phantom had a rapid spreading zombie tattoo (compared to Rolan, Peta, and Alviss-whose curses are taking clearly a far longer time to spread before the undead transformation completes) It\\\'s safe to assume it has taken him probably 2-4 years for it to complete. (Since he was undead at the start of the first war games, and Phantom broke out of prison with Diana 4 years prior) Which would mean Phantom would of have to of been either somewhere in between 22-24 when he stopped aging. In other words...still [[{{Squick}} squickish]] when you consider people pairing him up with 16-17 year olds like Alviss and Rolan, or 14 year olds like Ginta! Being that in the canon manga Phantom isn\\\'t some Bi/Gay pedophile, is already a point in itself...but at least the Phantom/Peta yaoi pairing-are pairing up these 2 peers, instead of the [[YaoiFangirl Other Fangirls wanting Phantom to get all squicky with minors!]]
***[[FetishFuel Does]] [[SelectiveSquick this]] [[FanService really]] [[FanDumb honestly]] [[HetIsEw surprise]] [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls you?!]] [[ExecutiveMeddling I]] [[PanderingToTheBase mean,]] [[SlashFic this]] [[DieForOurShip is]] [[YaoiFangirl Hardcore Yaoi Shippers]] [[SeriousBusiness we\\\'re]] [[CovertPervert talking]] [[FanDisillusionment about]]!
* IHaveYouNowMyPretty - [an example]
** [[SarcasmMode You forgot]] to mention [[{{Filler}} \\\"Filler\\\"]] afer the word [[AdaptationDecay \\\'\\\'entire\\\'\\\']].
* MindGameShip - [an example]
**[[CompletelyMissingThePoint Don\\\'t]] [[AdaptationDecay Forget]] {{Filler}}!
* SeasonalRot - [an example, followed by a comment]
**While the final battles and more drawn out, I have to agree with the first troper...too much Dorothy Fanservice, the Tokyo and Zonnen filler arcs were annoying...and let\\\'s not even get into the [[CharacterDerailment character assassinations]],[[PanderingToTheBase fanon OOC yaoi filler]], or the [[AdaptationDecay Overall Pointless-ness of it! Filled with Pointless Anime-Only Characters and Pointless Plot that dragged on and was a waste of time!]]
* YaoiFangirl - [a comment]
**[[AdaptationDecay If you just watched the anime]] and didn\\\'t [[{{Canon}} read the manga]], [[CompletelyMissingThePoint you wouldn\\\'t of realized]] that while she was indeed dedicated to Phantom-even if her love was one-sided...Phantom has no gay attraction with Alviss or Rolan in the [[{{Canon}} Manga]]so obviously, Candice never is \\\"ok\\\" with Phantom being Bi/Gay-because he never was [[DisContinueity TOO BEGIN WITH!]] In the [[{{Canon}} Manga]], as stated, she was only ok with her love being one-sided.
*** Also, since when does [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy accepting your crush is not]] sexually attracted to you, and to the other gender...[[CompletelyMissingThePoint make you a yaoi fangirl?]]
***[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Because]] the evil living corpse/30 year old undead guy, paired with either the... \\\'\\\'\\\'teenage\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: loyal mook who owes Phantom his life and admires him]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Girly Uke Baddie Follower]]-who is just so much in love with Phantom! Or the \\\'\\\'\\\'16 year old\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: kid who hates Phantom with all his being, wants to avenge his fallen comrades and Danna, plus avenge himself for being cursed by Evil Zombie]] [[EmoKid Depressed Bishounen Dude]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation whose]] [[FoeYay obsession]] with Phantom has nothing to do with hatred, but that he\\\'s secretly pining for the guy-and Phantom is totally pining for the sexy emo kid too!! Or a \\\'\\\'\\\'14 year old\\\'\\\'\\\'[[strike: boy, who despises Phantom for hurting innocent people, destorying the world, playing with lives as if it were some sort of game, and [[spoiler: killing his father]]]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Ultimate Uke]] with [[CuteShotaroBoy big blue eyes]]-[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation that Phantom]] sees what\\\'s so special about him-and wants that cute little Uke to be \\\'\\\'all just for his Seme self!\\\'\\\'-[[CompletelyMissingThePoint It has nothing to do with]] Phantom seeing him as an Worthy Foe/Exciting New Challenge. [[SarcasmMode Heck yes]], because [[SelectiveSquick Olderman/Teenageboy]] pairings are [[CovertPervert TOTALLY]] [[FetishFuel HAWT!]]
**[[YouFailLogicForever DID THIS REALLY HAVE TO]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint BE POINTED AND SPELLED OUT,]] [[SelectiveSquick FOR PEDOPHILE LOVING FANGIRLS?!]]
***[[WallBanger Well]] [[EpicFail apparently]]...[[FacePalm yes!]]
* FoeYay - [an example]
** Cept that was anime filler. In the manga, Phantom does NOT ever put moves on Alviss, because in the manga, Phantom is STRAIGHT (has a lover who is dead now-plus his attraction to the Queen) [[ExecutiveMeddling The animators]] [[PanderingToTheBase made him Bi]] [[FetishFuel for]] [[YaoiFangirl obvious]] [[FanService reasons]].
* HoYay - [a comment]
** Obviously, see FoeYay, if people still don\\\'t believe that its Filler, and in the [[Canon manga]] Phantom wasn\\\'t Bi [[FanDumb (or gay for that matter)!]]
***And he certianly is heck, wasn\\\'t a pedophile! Seriously, it\\\'s like they didn\\\'t even CARE that Phantom was 30 years old and [[{{Squick}} Alviss is 16!]]
**** Worse, there was some subtext in there that about Phantom and Ginta...and [[{{Squick Ginta}} is 14!]] Who looks like he\\\'s [[CuteShotaroBoy really 10-12!]]
**While some would argue that Phantom\\\'s Body stopped aging, in the time he recieved the zombie tattoo had to be in between the space of 4 years. So unless Phantom had a rapid spreading zombie tattoo (compared to Rolan, Peta, and Alviss-whose curses are taking clearly a far longer time to spread before the undead transformation completes) It\\\'s safe to assume it has taken him probably 2-4 years for it to complete. (Since he was undead at the start of the first war games, and Phantom broke out of prison with Diana 4 years prior) Which would mean Phantom would of have to of been either somewhere in between 22-24 when he stopped aging. In other words...still [[{{Squick}} squickish]] when you consider people pairing him up with 16-17 year olds like Alviss and Rolan, or 14 year olds like Ginta! Being that in the canon manga Phantom isn\\\'t some Bi/Gay pedophile, is already a point in itself...but at least the Phantom/Peta yaoi pairing-are pairing up these 2 peers, instead of the [[YaoiFangirl Other Fangirls wanting Phantom to get all squicky with minors!]]
***[[FetishFuel Does]] [[SelectiveSquick this]] [[FanService really]] [[FanDumb honestly]] [[HetIsEw surprise]] [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls you?!]] [[ExecutiveMeddling I]] [[PanderingToTheBase mean,]] [[SlashFic this]] [[DieForOurShip is]] [[YaoiFangirl Hardcore Yaoi Shippers]] [[SeriousBusiness we\\\'re]] [[CovertPervert talking]] [[FanDisillusionment about]]!
* IHaveYouNowMyPretty - [an example]
** [[SarcasmMode You forgot]] to mention [[{{Filler}} \\\"Filler\\\"]] afer the word [[AdaptationDecay \\\'\\\'entire\\\'\\\']].
* MindGameShip - [an example]
**[[CompletelyMissingThePoint Don\\\'t]] [[AdaptationDecay Forget]] {{Filler}}!
* SeasonalRot - [an example, followed by a comment]
**While the final battles and more drawn out, I have to agree with the first troper...too much Dorothy Fanservice, the Tokyo and Zonnen filler arcs were annoying...and let\\\'s not even get into the [[CharacterDerailment character assassinations]],[[PanderingToTheBase fanon OOC yaoi filler]], or the [[AdaptationDecay Overall Pointless-ness of it! Filled with Pointless Anime-Only Characters and Pointless Plot that dragged on and was a waste of time!]]
* YaoiFangirl - [a comment]
**[[AdaptationDecay If you just watched the anime]] and didn\\\'t [[{{Canon}} read the manga]], [[CompletelyMissingThePoint you wouldn\\\'t of realized]] that while she was indeed dedicated to Phantom-even if her love was one-sided...Phantom has no gay attraction with Alviss or Rolan in the [[{{Canon}} Manga]]so obviously, Candice never is \\\"ok\\\" with Phantom being Bi/Gay-because he never was [[DisContinueity TOO BEGIN WITH!]] In the [[{{Canon}} Manga]], as stated, she was only ok with her love being one-sided.
*** Also, since when does [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy accepting your crush is not]] sexually attracted to you, and to the other gender...[[CompletelyMissingThePoint make you a yaoi fangirl?]]
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***[[FanDumb These fangirls]] claiming [[{{Fanon}} pedophilia filler anime yaoi]] as canon,[[TheyJustDidntCare just don\'t care for the manga at all!!]] [[{{Canon}} Because Ginta and Phantom BOTH had female love interests in the manga, Alviss hates Phantom-and wants him dead, and Rolan is just freaking loyal!!]] [[FanDumb But why would they want to]] [[EpicFail pay attention to canon manga]] [[YouFailLogicForever to begin with???]]-[[HetIsEw After all, who wants to read about Phantom and Ginta being straight]], [[ItsPersonal Alviss hating Phantom\'s undead guts and wanting him dead,]] [[IOweYouMyLife or Rolan, just being grateful and admiring Phantom for saving his life and raising him since he was a little kid?]] [[FanDumb BORING!!]] [[DieForOurShip Girls suck anyway!]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Being indebted to someone is boring unless Bromance is involved!]] [[FoeYay And hatred and revenge isn\'t sexy enough, put in some \
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***[[FanDumb These fangirls]] claiming [[{{Fanon}} pedophilia filler anime yaoi]] as canon,[[TheyJustDidntCare just don\\\'t care for the manga at all!!]] [[{{Canon}} Because Ginta and Phantom BOTH had female love interests in the manga, Alviss hates Phantom-and wants him dead, and Rolan is just freaking loyal!!]] [[FanDumb But why would they want to]] [[EpicFail pay attention to canon manga]] [[YouFailLogicForever to begin with???]]-[[HetIsEw After all, who wants to read about Phantom and Ginta being straight]], [[ItsPersonal Alviss hating Phantom\\\'s undead guts and wanting him dead,]] [[IOweYouMyLife or Rolan, just being grateful and admiring Phantom for saving his life and raising him since he was a little kid?]] [[FanDumb BORING!!]] [[DieForOurShip Girls suck anyway!]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Being indebted to someone is boring unless Bromance is involved!]] [[FoeYay And hatred and revenge isn\\\'t sexy enough, put in some \\\"Gay-For-My-Nemisis!]]
***[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Because]] the evil living corpse/30 year old undead guy, paired with either the... \\\'\\\'\\\'teenage\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: loyal mook who owes Phantom his life and admires him]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Girly Uke Baddie Follower]]-who is just so much in love with Phantom! Or the \\\'\\\'\\\'16 year old\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: kid who hates Phantom with all his being, wants to avenge his fallen comrades and Danna, plus avenge himself for being cursed by Evil Zombie]] [[EmoKid Depressed Bishounen Dude]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation whose]] [[FoeYay obsession]] with Phantom has nothing to do with hatred, but that he\\\'s secretly pining for the guy-and Phantom is totally pining for the sexy emo kid too!! Or a \\\'\\\'\\\'14 year old\\\'\\\'\\\'[[strike: boy, who despises Phantom for hurting innocent people, destorying the world, playing with lives as if it were some sort of game, and [[spoiler: killing his father]]]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Ultimate Uke]] with [[CuteShotaroBoy big blue eyes]]-[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation that Phantom]] sees what\\\'s so special about him-and wants that cute little Uke to be \\\'\\\'all just for his Seme self!\\\'\\\'-[[CompletelyMissingThePoint It has nothing to do with]] Phantom seeing him as an Worthy Foe/Exciting New Challenge. [[SarcasmMode Heck yes]], because [[SelectiveSquick Olderman/Teenageboy]] pairings are [[CovertPervert TOTALLY]] [[FetishFuel HAWT!]]
**[[YouFailLogicForever DID THIS REALLY HAVE TO]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint BE POINTED AND SPELLED OUT,]] [[SelectiveSquick FOR PEDOPHILE LOVING FANGIRLS?!]]
***[[WallBanger Well]] [[EpicFail apparently]]...[[FacePalm yes!]]
* FoeYay - [an example]
** Cept that was anime filler. In the manga, Phantom does NOT ever put moves on Alviss, because in the manga, Phantom is STRAIGHT (has a lover who is dead now-plus his attraction to the Queen) [[ExecutiveMeddling The animators]] [[PanderingToTheBase made him Bi]] [[FetishFuel for]] [[YaoiFangirl obvious]] [[FanService reasons]].
* HoYay - [a comment]
** Obviously, see FoeYay, if people still don\\\'t believe that its Filler, and in the [[Canon manga]] Phantom wasn\\\'t Bi [[FanDumb (or gay for that matter)!]]
***And he certianly is heck, wasn\\\'t a pedophile! Seriously, it\\\'s like they didn\\\'t even CARE that Phantom was 30 years old and [[{{Squick}} Alviss is 16!]]
**** Worse, there was some subtext in there that about Phantom and Ginta...and [[{{Squick Ginta}} is 14!]] Who looks like he\\\'s [[CuteShotaroBoy really 10-12!]]
**While some would argue that Phantom\\\'s Body stopped aging, in the time he recieved the zombie tattoo had to be in between the space of 4 years. So unless Phantom had a rapid spreading zombie tattoo (compared to Rolan, Peta, and Alviss-whose curses are taking clearly a far longer time to spread before the undead transformation completes) It\\\'s safe to assume it has taken him probably 2-4 years for it to complete. (Since he was undead at the start of the first war games, and Phantom broke out of prison with Diana 4 years prior) Which would mean Phantom would of have to of been either somewhere in between 22-24 when he stopped aging. In other words...still [[{{Squick}} squickish]] when you consider people pairing him up with 16-17 year olds like Alviss and Rolan, or 14 year olds like Ginta! Being that in the canon manga Phantom isn\\\'t some Bi/Gay pedophile, is already a point in itself...but at least the Phantom/Peta yaoi pairing-are pairing up these 2 peers, instead of the [[YaoiFangirl Other Fangirls wanting Phantom to get all squicky with minors!]]
***[[FetishFuel Does]] [[SelectiveSquick this]] [[FanService really]] [[FanDumb honestly]] [[HetIsEw surprise]] [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls you?!]] [[ExecutiveMeddling I]] [[PanderingToTheBase mean,]] [[SlashFic this]] [[DieForOurShip is]] [[YaoiFangirl Hardcore Yaoi Shippers]] [[SeriousBusiness we\\\'re]] [[CovertPervert talking]] [[FanDisillusionment about]]!
* IHaveYouNowMyPretty - [an example]
** [[SarcasmMode You forgot]] to mention [[{{Filler}} \\\"Filler\\\"]] afer the word [[AdaptationDecay \\\'\\\'entire\\\'\\\']].
* MindGameShip - [an example]
**[[CompletelyMissingThePoint Don\\\'t]] [[AdaptationDecay Forget]] {{Filler}}!
* SeasonalRot - [an example, followed by a comment]
**While the final battles and more drawn out, I have to agree with the first troper...too much Dorothy Fanservice, the Tokyo and Zonnen filler arcs were annoying...and let\\\'s not even get into the [[CharacterDerailment character assassinations]],[[PanderingToTheBase fanon OOC yaoi filler]], or the [[AdaptationDecay Overall Pointless-ness of it! Filled with Pointless Anime-Only Characters and Pointless Plot that dragged on and was a waste of time!]]
* YaioFangirl - [a comment]
**[[AdaptationDecay If you just watched the anime]] and didn\\\'t [[{{Canon}} read the manga]], [[CompletelyMissingThePoint you wouldn\\\'t of realized]] that while she was indeed dedicated to Phantom-even if her love was one-sided...Phantom has no gay attraction with Alviss or Rolan in the [[{{Canon}} Manga]]so obviously, Candice never is \\\"ok\\\" with Phantom being Bi/Gay-because he never was [[DisContinueity TOO BEGIN WITH!]] In the [[{{Canon}} Manga]], as stated, she was only ok with her love being one-sided.
*** Also, since when does [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy accepting your crush is not]] sexually attracted to you, and to the other gender...[[CompletelyMissingThePoint make you a yaoi fangirl?]]
***[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Because]] the evil living corpse/30 year old undead guy, paired with either the... \\\'\\\'\\\'teenage\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: loyal mook who owes Phantom his life and admires him]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Girly Uke Baddie Follower]]-who is just so much in love with Phantom! Or the \\\'\\\'\\\'16 year old\\\'\\\'\\\' [[strike: kid who hates Phantom with all his being, wants to avenge his fallen comrades and Danna, plus avenge himself for being cursed by Evil Zombie]] [[EmoKid Depressed Bishounen Dude]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation whose]] [[FoeYay obsession]] with Phantom has nothing to do with hatred, but that he\\\'s secretly pining for the guy-and Phantom is totally pining for the sexy emo kid too!! Or a \\\'\\\'\\\'14 year old\\\'\\\'\\\'[[strike: boy, who despises Phantom for hurting innocent people, destorying the world, playing with lives as if it were some sort of game, and [[spoiler: killing his father]]]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Ultimate Uke]] with [[CuteShotaroBoy big blue eyes]]-[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation that Phantom]] sees what\\\'s so special about him-and wants that cute little Uke to be \\\'\\\'all just for his Seme self!\\\'\\\'-[[CompletelyMissingThePoint It has nothing to do with]] Phantom seeing him as an Worthy Foe/Exciting New Challenge. [[SarcasmMode Heck yes]], because [[SelectiveSquick Olderman/Teenageboy]] pairings are [[CovertPervert TOTALLY]] [[FetishFuel HAWT!]]
**[[YouFailLogicForever DID THIS REALLY HAVE TO]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint BE POINTED AND SPELLED OUT,]] [[SelectiveSquick FOR PEDOPHILE LOVING FANGIRLS?!]]
***[[WallBanger Well]] [[EpicFail apparently]]...[[FacePalm yes!]]
* FoeYay - [an example]
** Cept that was anime filler. In the manga, Phantom does NOT ever put moves on Alviss, because in the manga, Phantom is STRAIGHT (has a lover who is dead now-plus his attraction to the Queen) [[ExecutiveMeddling The animators]] [[PanderingToTheBase made him Bi]] [[FetishFuel for]] [[YaoiFangirl obvious]] [[FanService reasons]].
* HoYay - [a comment]
** Obviously, see FoeYay, if people still don\\\'t believe that its Filler, and in the [[Canon manga]] Phantom wasn\\\'t Bi [[FanDumb (or gay for that matter)!]]
***And he certianly is heck, wasn\\\'t a pedophile! Seriously, it\\\'s like they didn\\\'t even CARE that Phantom was 30 years old and [[{{Squick}} Alviss is 16!]]
**** Worse, there was some subtext in there that about Phantom and Ginta...and [[{{Squick Ginta}} is 14!]] Who looks like he\\\'s [[CuteShotaroBoy really 10-12!]]
**While some would argue that Phantom\\\'s Body stopped aging, in the time he recieved the zombie tattoo had to be in between the space of 4 years. So unless Phantom had a rapid spreading zombie tattoo (compared to Rolan, Peta, and Alviss-whose curses are taking clearly a far longer time to spread before the undead transformation completes) It\\\'s safe to assume it has taken him probably 2-4 years for it to complete. (Since he was undead at the start of the first war games, and Phantom broke out of prison with Diana 4 years prior) Which would mean Phantom would of have to of been either somewhere in between 22-24 when he stopped aging. In other words...still [[{{Squick}} squickish]] when you consider people pairing him up with 16-17 year olds like Alviss and Rolan, or 14 year olds like Ginta! Being that in the canon manga Phantom isn\\\'t some Bi/Gay pedophile, is already a point in itself...but at least the Phantom/Peta yaoi pairing-are pairing up these 2 peers, instead of the [[YaoiFangirl Other Fangirls wanting Phantom to get all squicky with minors!]]
***[[FetishFuel Does]] [[SelectiveSquick this]] [[FanService really]] [[FanDumb honestly]] [[HetIsEw surprise]] [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls you?!]] [[ExecutiveMeddling I]] [[PanderingToTheBase mean,]] [[SlashFic this]] [[DieForOurShip is]] [[YaoiFangirl Hardcore Yaoi Shippers]] [[SeriousBusiness we\\\'re]] [[CovertPervert talking]] [[FanDisillusionment about]]!
* IHaveYouNowMyPretty - [an example]
** [[SarcasmMode You forgot]] to mention [[{{Filler}} \\\"Filler\\\"]] afer the word [[AdaptationDecay \\\'\\\'entire\\\'\\\']].
* MindGameShip - [an example]
**[[CompletelyMissingThePoint Don\\\'t]] [[AdaptationDecay Forget]] {{Filler}}!
* SeasonalRot - [an example, followed by a comment]
**While the final battles and more drawn out, I have to agree with the first troper...too much Dorothy Fanservice, the Tokyo and Zonnen filler arcs were annoying...and let\\\'s not even get into the [[CharacterDerailment character assassinations]],[[PanderingToTheBase fanon OOC yaoi filler]], or the [[AdaptationDecay Overall Pointless-ness of it! Filled with Pointless Anime-Only Characters and Pointless Plot that dragged on and was a waste of time!]]
* YaioFangirl - [a comment]
**[[AdaptationDecay If you just watched the anime]] and didn\\\'t [[{{Canon}} read the manga]], [[CompletelyMissingThePoint you wouldn\\\'t of realized]] that while she was indeed dedicated to Phantom-even if her love was one-sided...Phantom has no gay attraction with Alviss or Rolan in the [[{{Canon}} Manga]]so obviously, Candice never is \\\"ok\\\" with Phantom being Bi/Gay-because he never was [[DisContinueity TOO BEGIN WITH!]] In the [[{{Canon}} Manga]], as stated, she was only ok with her love being one-sided.
*** Also, since when does [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy accepting your crush is not]] sexually attracted to you, and to the other gender...[[CompletelyMissingThePoint make you a yaoi fangirl?]]
