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Is there a reason you\'re claiming the Tutor\'s particular state is proof that \
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Is there a reason you\\\'re claiming the Tutor\\\'s particular state is proof that \\\"squares are not rectangles\\\" is the situation with regards to Inferno and the Lower Depths rather than just \\\"this particular rectangle is not a square\\\"?
If you\\\'re referring to the opening segment of Chapter Four, I note that the cosmology being drawn by the hypothetical mage is both grossly simplified (no Underworld or Hedge is mentioned, despite the former having existed in Mage cosmology since the Core Rulebook) and explicitly stated to be \\\"not […] precisely objective\\\" and is \\\"accurate enough [to her.]\\\"
And then there\\\'s something you seem to be neglecting about the Lower Depths in assuming it\\\'s inaccessible on the merit of equivalent metaphysical distance from the Fallen as possessed by the Supernal: the Supernal has an Abyss in the way and still manages to filter down. What does the Lower Depths have in the way?
I see nothing in IM saying that Abaddon resembles the stereotypical Hell, and, for that matter, nothing in Inferno that says the Inferno resembles it either; the inside of a Hellmouth looks different to everyone, and the description for the Hellform Numen notes that traditional forms are not the only forms possessed. Meanwhile, there\\\'s significant overlap between the stereotypical depictions of creatures from the Depths and the thematic qualities possessed by, say, Beelzebub- and Belphegor-type Inferno-demons and their related panoply of Vestments.
Could I get a full quote with context from \\\"meaningless\\\"?
If you\\\'re referring to the opening segment of Chapter Four, I note that the cosmology being drawn by the hypothetical mage is both grossly simplified (no Underworld or Hedge is mentioned, despite the former having existed in Mage cosmology since the Core Rulebook) and explicitly stated to be \\\"not […] precisely objective\\\" and is \\\"accurate enough [to her.]\\\"
And then there\\\'s something you seem to be neglecting about the Lower Depths in assuming it\\\'s inaccessible on the merit of equivalent metaphysical distance from the Fallen as possessed by the Supernal: the Supernal has an Abyss in the way and still manages to filter down. What does the Lower Depths have in the way?
I see nothing in IM saying that Abaddon resembles the stereotypical Hell, and, for that matter, nothing in Inferno that says the Inferno resembles it either; the inside of a Hellmouth looks different to everyone, and the description for the Hellform Numen notes that traditional forms are not the only forms possessed. Meanwhile, there\\\'s significant overlap between the stereotypical depictions of creatures from the Depths and the thematic qualities possessed by, say, Beelzebub- and Belphegor-type Inferno-demons and their related panoply of Vestments.
Could I get a full quote with context from \\\"meaningless\\\"?
