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\\\"Ooh. The Stop Having Fun Guy is calling me a Scrub. Totally unpredictable.\\\"
I\\\'d prefer not to be called a Stop Having Fun Guy because I think I\\\'ve given more than adequate acknowledgment to the diverse playstyles possible in Fire Emblem via listing the available methods of abuse.
\\\"And Elincia has problems? She\\\'d have to have horrible Strength, because as far as one-rounding goes, Amiti means the enemy effectively has only HALF of their HP. And if you\\\'re even going to talk about Haar or Jill, go right ahead and gimp Micaiah\\\'s team of power units they need to make up for Micaiah\\\'s lack of authority stars and the desert map that everybody just loves.\\\"
Elincia\\\'s str at --/4: 20.95
Titania\\\'s str at 20/4: 30.8
Sure looks like horrible str to me. Titania does more damage with a Brave Sword than Elincia does with Amiti, that\\\'s for sure. Against a random enemy like a 23 def halberdier, she does about the same amount of damage in one strike with a forged Silver Axe compared to Elincia\\\'s dual strike with Amiti. Against 27 def generals, Titania pulls ahead (although she could just whip out a Hammer for OHKOs).
So now even if Elincia is approximately offensively equal to Titania against most enemies, she\\\'s still a lot less durable, and she\\\'s playable for a much shorter period of time, which means that Elincia is not as gamebreaking as Titania. Titania is not even listed right now because she pales in comparison to Haar.
\\\"Ah right. Rescue. Because everybody will even think to do that, never mind that it\\\'s a Guide Dang It to begin with—even if Dragonfoe is too by that logic. Oh wait, most players don\\\'t try for quick victories in general, such things inherently involve at least either Game Breakers or overreading the game. You\\\'re doing both and using THAT as a standard.\\\"
I\\\'m a pretty smart guy; I didn\\\'t need to look at a guide. But anyway, gamebreakers aren\\\'t always immediately obvious (that\\\'s not a characteristic of the trope), so there\\\'s nothing wrong with what is in your opinion \\\"overreading\\\" the game. Remove that element and it\\\'s just gamebreaking, so I\\\'m glad you agree with us. On the other hand, some gamebreakers (like Warp in FE5 and FE11) are extremely obvious, but players don\\\'t use it because they think it detracts from their enjoyment of the game. That\\\'s also fine, but it doesn\\\'t make the mechanic any less broken; in fact, it all but confirms it.
\\\"Your 0% growth also takes 3 turns on 4-F-2. Hardly a healthy standard when people panic because they want to avoid KILLING the Black Knight. And they still have trouble with Dheginsea and Ashera. Experience just a means to an end? All you have proven is how fail your argument is.\\\"
Meanwhile you have not proven anything at all, so I\\\'m patiently waiting. I think that I\\\'ve also very adequately proven that EXP is merely a means to an end; the end being a completion of the game.
\\\"Also, the point is that Elincia gets valid targets she can tear apart left and right. Didn\\\'t you get the memo? Or are you too busy abusing Laguz Royals like nothing else exists, when I, a \\\"scrub\\\" as you oh so wisely called me, didn\\\'t even need them for Dheginsea or Ashera?\\\"
I made Dheginsea and Ashera look like mice in the palms of gods. I wonder which accomplishment is more relevant to this trope?
I\\\'d prefer not to be called a Stop Having Fun Guy because I think I\\\'ve given more than adequate acknowledgment to the diverse playstyles possible in Fire Emblem via listing the available methods of abuse.
\\\"And Elincia has problems? She\\\'d have to have horrible Strength, because as far as one-rounding goes, Amiti means the enemy effectively has only HALF of their HP. And if you\\\'re even going to talk about Haar or Jill, go right ahead and gimp Micaiah\\\'s team of power units they need to make up for Micaiah\\\'s lack of authority stars and the desert map that everybody just loves.\\\"
Elincia\\\'s str at --/4: 20.95
Titania\\\'s str at 20/4: 30.8
Sure looks like horrible str to me. Titania does more damage with a Brave Sword than Elincia does with Amiti, that\\\'s for sure. Against a random enemy like a 23 def halberdier, she does about the same amount of damage in one strike with a forged Silver Axe compared to Elincia\\\'s dual strike with Amiti. Against 27 def generals, Titania pulls ahead (although she could just whip out a Hammer for OHKOs).
So now even if Elincia is approximately offensively equal to Titania against most enemies, she\\\'s still a lot less durable, and she\\\'s playable for a much shorter period of time, which means that Elincia is not as gamebreaking as Titania. Titania is not even listed right now because she pales in comparison to Haar.
\\\"Ah right. Rescue. Because everybody will even think to do that, never mind that it\\\'s a Guide Dang It to begin with—even if Dragonfoe is too by that logic. Oh wait, most players don\\\'t try for quick victories in general, such things inherently involve at least either Game Breakers or overreading the game. You\\\'re doing both and using THAT as a standard.\\\"
I\\\'m a pretty smart guy; I didn\\\'t need to look at a guide. But anyway, gamebreakers aren\\\'t always immediately obvious (that\\\'s not a characteristic of the trope), so there\\\'s nothing wrong with what is in your opinion \\\"overreading\\\" the game. Remove that element and it\\\'s just gamebreaking, so I\\\'m glad you agree with us. On the other hand, some gamebreakers (like Warp in FE5 and FE11) are extremely obvious, but players don\\\'t use it because they think it detracts from their enjoyment of the game. That\\\'s also fine, but it doesn\\\'t make the mechanic any less broken; in fact, it all but confirms it.
\\\"Your 0% growth also takes 3 turns on 4-F-2. Hardly a healthy standard when people panic because they want to avoid KILLING the Black Knight. And they still have trouble with Dheginsea and Ashera. Experience just a means to an end? All you have proven is how fail your argument is.\\\"
Meanwhile you have not proven anything at all, so I\\\'m patiently waiting. I think that I\\\'ve also very adequately proven that EXP is merely a means to an end; the end being a completion of the game.
\\\"Also, the point is that Elincia gets valid targets she can tear apart left and right. Didn\\\'t you get the memo? Or are you too busy abusing Laguz Royals like nothing else exists, when I, a \\\"scrub\\\" as you oh so wisely called me, didn\\\'t even need them for Dheginsea or Ashera?\\\"
I made Dheginsea and Ashera look like mice in the palms of gods. I wonder which accomplishment is more relevant to this trope?
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\\\"Ooh. The Stop Having Fun Guy is calling me a Scrub. Totally unpredictable.\\\"
I\\\'d prefer not to be called a Stop Having Fun Guy because I think I\\\'ve given more than adequate acknowledgment to the diverse playstyles possible in Fire Emblem via listing the available methods of abuse.
\\\"And Elincia has problems? She\\\'d have to have horrible Strength, because as far as one-rounding goes, Amiti means the enemy effectively has only HALF of their HP. And if you\\\'re even going to talk about Haar or Jill, go right ahead and gimp Micaiah\\\'s team of power units they need to make up for Micaiah\\\'s lack of authority stars and the desert map that everybody just loves.\\\"
Elincia\\\'s str at --/4: 20.95
Titania\\\'s str at 20/4: 30.8
Sure looks like horrible str to me. Titania does more damage with a Brave Sword than Elincia does with Amiti, that\\\'s for sure. Against a random enemy like a 23 def halberdier, she does about the same amount of damage in one strike with a forged Silver Axe compared to Elincia\\\'s dual strike with Amiti. Against 27 def generals, Titania pulls ahead (although she could just whip out a Hammer for OHKOs).
So now even if Elincia is approximately offensively equal to Titania against most enemies, she\\\'s still a lot less durable, and she\\\'s playable for a much shorter period of time, which means that Elincia is not as gamebreaking as Titania. Titania is not even listed right now because she pales in comparison to Haar.
\\\"Ah right. Rescue. Because everybody will even think to do that, never mind that it\\\'s a Guide Dang It to begin with—even if Dragonfoe is too by that logic. Oh wait, most players don\\\'t try for quick victories in general, such things inherently involve at least either Game Breakers or overreading the game. You\\\'re doing both and using THAT as a standard.\\\"
I\\\'m a pretty smart guy; I didn\\\'t need to look at a guide. But anyway, gamebreakers aren\\\'t always immediately obvious (that\\\'s not a characteristic of the trope), so there\\\'s nothing wrong with what is in your opinion \\\"overreading\\\" the game. Remove that element and it\\\'s just gamebreaking, so I\\\'m glad you agree with us.
\\\"Your 0% growth also takes 3 turns on 4-F-2. Hardly a healthy standard when people panic because they want to avoid KILLING the Black Knight. And they still have trouble with Dheginsea and Ashera. Experience just a means to an end? All you have proven is how fail your argument is.\\\"
Meanwhile you have not proven anything at all, so I\\\'m patiently waiting. I think that I\\\'ve also very adequately proven that EXP is merely a means to an end; the end being a completion of the game.
\\\"Also, the point is that Elincia gets valid targets she can tear apart left and right. Didn\\\'t you get the memo? Or are you too busy abusing Laguz Royals like nothing else exists, when I, a \\\"scrub\\\" as you oh so wisely called me, didn\\\'t even need them for Dheginsea or Ashera?\\\"
I made Dheginsea and Ashera look like mice in the palms of gods. I wonder which accomplishment is more relevant to this trope?
I\\\'d prefer not to be called a Stop Having Fun Guy because I think I\\\'ve given more than adequate acknowledgment to the diverse playstyles possible in Fire Emblem via listing the available methods of abuse.
\\\"And Elincia has problems? She\\\'d have to have horrible Strength, because as far as one-rounding goes, Amiti means the enemy effectively has only HALF of their HP. And if you\\\'re even going to talk about Haar or Jill, go right ahead and gimp Micaiah\\\'s team of power units they need to make up for Micaiah\\\'s lack of authority stars and the desert map that everybody just loves.\\\"
Elincia\\\'s str at --/4: 20.95
Titania\\\'s str at 20/4: 30.8
Sure looks like horrible str to me. Titania does more damage with a Brave Sword than Elincia does with Amiti, that\\\'s for sure. Against a random enemy like a 23 def halberdier, she does about the same amount of damage in one strike with a forged Silver Axe compared to Elincia\\\'s dual strike with Amiti. Against 27 def generals, Titania pulls ahead (although she could just whip out a Hammer for OHKOs).
So now even if Elincia is approximately offensively equal to Titania against most enemies, she\\\'s still a lot less durable, and she\\\'s playable for a much shorter period of time, which means that Elincia is not as gamebreaking as Titania. Titania is not even listed right now because she pales in comparison to Haar.
\\\"Ah right. Rescue. Because everybody will even think to do that, never mind that it\\\'s a Guide Dang It to begin with—even if Dragonfoe is too by that logic. Oh wait, most players don\\\'t try for quick victories in general, such things inherently involve at least either Game Breakers or overreading the game. You\\\'re doing both and using THAT as a standard.\\\"
I\\\'m a pretty smart guy; I didn\\\'t need to look at a guide. But anyway, gamebreakers aren\\\'t always immediately obvious (that\\\'s not a characteristic of the trope), so there\\\'s nothing wrong with what is in your opinion \\\"overreading\\\" the game. Remove that element and it\\\'s just gamebreaking, so I\\\'m glad you agree with us.
\\\"Your 0% growth also takes 3 turns on 4-F-2. Hardly a healthy standard when people panic because they want to avoid KILLING the Black Knight. And they still have trouble with Dheginsea and Ashera. Experience just a means to an end? All you have proven is how fail your argument is.\\\"
Meanwhile you have not proven anything at all, so I\\\'m patiently waiting. I think that I\\\'ve also very adequately proven that EXP is merely a means to an end; the end being a completion of the game.
\\\"Also, the point is that Elincia gets valid targets she can tear apart left and right. Didn\\\'t you get the memo? Or are you too busy abusing Laguz Royals like nothing else exists, when I, a \\\"scrub\\\" as you oh so wisely called me, didn\\\'t even need them for Dheginsea or Ashera?\\\"
I made Dheginsea and Ashera look like mice in the palms of gods. I wonder which accomplishment is more relevant to this trope?
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\\\"And Elincia has problems? She\\\'d have to have horrible Strength, because as far as one-rounding goes, Amiti means the enemy effectively has only HALF of their HP. And if you\\\'re even going to talk about Haar or Jill, go right ahead and gimp Micaiah\\\'s team of power units they need to make up for Micaiah\\\'s lack of authority stars and the desert map that everybody just loves.\\\"
Elincia\\\'s str at --/4: 20.95
Titania\\\'s str at 20/4: 30.8
Sure looks like horrible str to me. Titania does more damage with a Brave Sword than Elincia does with Amiti, that\\\'s for sure. Against a random enemy like a 23 def halberdier, she does about the same amount of damage in one strike with a forged Silver Axe compared to Elincia\\\'s dual strike with Amiti. Against 27 def generals, Titania pulls ahead (although she could just whip out a Hammer for OHKOs).
So now even if Elincia is approximately offensively equal to Titania against most enemies, she\\\'s still a lot less durable, and she\\\'s playable for a much shorter period of time, which means that Elincia is not as gamebreaking as Titania. Titania is not even listed right now because she pales in comparison to Haar.
\\\"Ah right. Rescue. Because everybody will even think to do that, never mind that it\\\'s a Guide Dang It to begin with—even if Dragonfoe is too by that logic. Oh wait, most players don\\\'t try for quick victories in general, such things inherently involve at least either Game Breakers or overreading the game. You\\\'re doing both and using THAT as a standard.\\\"
I\\\'m a pretty smart guy; I didn\\\'t need to look at a guide. But anyway, gamebreakers aren\\\'t always immediately obvious (that\\\'s not a characteristic of the trope), so there\\\'s nothing wrong with what is in your opinion \\\"overreading\\\" the game. Remove that element and it\\\'s just gamebreaking, so I\\\'m glad you agree with us.
\\\"Your 0% growth also takes 3 turns on 4-F-2. Hardly a healthy standard when people panic because they want to avoid KILLING the Black Knight. And they still have trouble with Dheginsea and Ashera. Experience just a means to an end? All you have proven is how fail your argument is.\\\"
Meanwhile you have not proven anything at all, so I\\\'m patiently waiting. I think that I\\\'ve also very adequately proven that EXP is merely a means to an end; the end being a completion of the game.
\\\"Also, the point is that Elincia gets valid targets she can tear apart left and right. Didn\\\'t you get the memo? Or are you too busy abusing Laguz Royals like nothing else exists, when I, a \\\"scrub\\\" as you oh so wisely called me, didn\\\'t even need them for Dheginsea or Ashera?\\\"
I made Dheginsea and Ashera look like mice in the palms of gods. I wonder which accomplishment is more relevant to this trope?
Elincia\\\'s str at --/4: 20.95
Titania\\\'s str at 20/4: 30.8
Sure looks like horrible str to me. Titania does more damage with a Brave Sword than Elincia does with Amiti, that\\\'s for sure. Against a random enemy like a 23 def halberdier, she does about the same amount of damage in one strike with a forged Silver Axe compared to Elincia\\\'s dual strike with Amiti. Against 27 def generals, Titania pulls ahead (although she could just whip out a Hammer for OHKOs).
So now even if Elincia is approximately offensively equal to Titania against most enemies, she\\\'s still a lot less durable, and she\\\'s playable for a much shorter period of time, which means that Elincia is not as gamebreaking as Titania. Titania is not even listed right now because she pales in comparison to Haar.
\\\"Ah right. Rescue. Because everybody will even think to do that, never mind that it\\\'s a Guide Dang It to begin with—even if Dragonfoe is too by that logic. Oh wait, most players don\\\'t try for quick victories in general, such things inherently involve at least either Game Breakers or overreading the game. You\\\'re doing both and using THAT as a standard.\\\"
I\\\'m a pretty smart guy; I didn\\\'t need to look at a guide. But anyway, gamebreakers aren\\\'t always immediately obvious (that\\\'s not a characteristic of the trope), so there\\\'s nothing wrong with what is in your opinion \\\"overreading\\\" the game. Remove that element and it\\\'s just gamebreaking, so I\\\'m glad you agree with us.
\\\"Your 0% growth also takes 3 turns on 4-F-2. Hardly a healthy standard when people panic because they want to avoid KILLING the Black Knight. And they still have trouble with Dheginsea and Ashera. Experience just a means to an end? All you have proven is how fail your argument is.\\\"
Meanwhile you have not proven anything at all, so I\\\'m patiently waiting. I think that I\\\'ve also very adequately proven that EXP is merely a means to an end; the end being a completion of the game.
\\\"Also, the point is that Elincia gets valid targets she can tear apart left and right. Didn\\\'t you get the memo? Or are you too busy abusing Laguz Royals like nothing else exists, when I, a \\\"scrub\\\" as you oh so wisely called me, didn\\\'t even need them for Dheginsea or Ashera?\\\"
I made Dheginsea and Ashera look like mice in the palms of gods. I wonder which accomplishment is more relevant to this trope?
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\\\"And Elincia has problems? She\\\'d have to have horrible Strength, because as far as one-rounding goes, Amiti means the enemy effectively has only HALF of their HP. And if you\\\'re even going to talk about Haar or Jill, go right ahead and gimp Micaiah\\\'s team of power units they need to make up for Micaiah\\\'s lack of authority stars and the desert map that everybody just loves.\\\"
Elincia\\\'s str at --/4: 20.95.
Titania\\\'s str at 20/4: 30.8.
Sure looks like horrible str to me. Titania does more damage with a Brave Sword than Elincia does with Amiti, that\\\'s for sure. Against a random enemy like a 23 def halberdier, she does about the same amount of damage in one strike with a forged Silver Axe compared to Elincia\\\'s dual strike with Amiti. Against 27 def generals, Titania pulls ahead (although she could just whip out a Hammer for OHKOs).
So now even if Elincia is approximately offensively equal to Titania against most enemies, she\\\'s still a lot less durable, and she\\\'s playable for a much shorter period of time, which means that Elincia is not as gamebreaking as Titania. Titania is not even listed right now because she pales in comparison to Haar.
\\\"Ah right. Rescue. Because everybody will even think to do that, never mind that it\\\'s a Guide Dang It to begin with—even if Dragonfoe is too by that logic. Oh wait, most players don\\\'t try for quick victories in general, such things inherently involve at least either Game Breakers or overreading the game. You\\\'re doing both and using THAT as a standard.\\\"
I\\\'m a pretty smart guy; I didn\\\'t need to look at a guide. But anyway, gamebreakers aren\\\'t always immediately obvious (that\\\'s not a characteristic of the trope), so there\\\'s nothing wrong with what is in your opinion \\\"overreading\\\" the game. Remove that element and it\\\'s just gamebreaking, so I\\\'m glad you agree with us.
\\\"Your 0% growth also takes 3 turns on 4-F-2. Hardly a healthy standard when people panic because they want to avoid KILLING the Black Knight. And they still have trouble with Dheginsea and Ashera. Experience just a means to an end? All you have proven is how fail your argument is.\\\"
Meanwhile you have not proven anything at all, so I\\\'m patiently waiting. I think that I\\\'ve also very adequately proven that EXP is merely a means to an end; the end being a completion of the game.
\\\"Also, the point is that Elincia gets valid targets she can tear apart left and right. Didn\\\'t you get the memo? Or are you too busy abusing Laguz Royals like nothing else exists, when I, a \\\"scrub\\\" as you oh so wisely called me, didn\\\'t even need them for Dheginsea or Ashera?\\\"
I made Dheginsea and Ashera look like mice in the palms of gods. I wonder which accomplishment is more relevant to this trope?
Elincia\\\'s str at --/4: 20.95.
Titania\\\'s str at 20/4: 30.8.
Sure looks like horrible str to me. Titania does more damage with a Brave Sword than Elincia does with Amiti, that\\\'s for sure. Against a random enemy like a 23 def halberdier, she does about the same amount of damage in one strike with a forged Silver Axe compared to Elincia\\\'s dual strike with Amiti. Against 27 def generals, Titania pulls ahead (although she could just whip out a Hammer for OHKOs).
So now even if Elincia is approximately offensively equal to Titania against most enemies, she\\\'s still a lot less durable, and she\\\'s playable for a much shorter period of time, which means that Elincia is not as gamebreaking as Titania. Titania is not even listed right now because she pales in comparison to Haar.
\\\"Ah right. Rescue. Because everybody will even think to do that, never mind that it\\\'s a Guide Dang It to begin with—even if Dragonfoe is too by that logic. Oh wait, most players don\\\'t try for quick victories in general, such things inherently involve at least either Game Breakers or overreading the game. You\\\'re doing both and using THAT as a standard.\\\"
I\\\'m a pretty smart guy; I didn\\\'t need to look at a guide. But anyway, gamebreakers aren\\\'t always immediately obvious (that\\\'s not a characteristic of the trope), so there\\\'s nothing wrong with what is in your opinion \\\"overreading\\\" the game. Remove that element and it\\\'s just gamebreaking, so I\\\'m glad you agree with us.
\\\"Your 0% growth also takes 3 turns on 4-F-2. Hardly a healthy standard when people panic because they want to avoid KILLING the Black Knight. And they still have trouble with Dheginsea and Ashera. Experience just a means to an end? All you have proven is how fail your argument is.\\\"
Meanwhile you have not proven anything at all, so I\\\'m patiently waiting. I think that I\\\'ve also very adequately proven that EXP is merely a means to an end; the end being a completion of the game.
\\\"Also, the point is that Elincia gets valid targets she can tear apart left and right. Didn\\\'t you get the memo? Or are you too busy abusing Laguz Royals like nothing else exists, when I, a \\\"scrub\\\" as you oh so wisely called me, didn\\\'t even need them for Dheginsea or Ashera?\\\"
I made Dheginsea and Ashera look like mice in the palms of gods. I wonder which accomplishment is more relevant to this trope?
