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* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with his own creation, who he has since shamelessly whored out via the media arm of DC Comics (with him writing the episode of Smallville that was designed as a pilot for a Blue Beetle TV series, which thankfully flopped), all the while telling fans of Ted Kord to suck it because \
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* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with his own creation, who he has since shamelessly whored out via the media arm of DC Comics (with him writing the episode of Smallville that was designed as a pilot for a Blue Beetle TV series, which thankfully flopped), all the while telling fans of Ted Kord to suck it because \\\"resurrecting Ted would hurt Jaime Reyes\\\'s ability to find an audience\\\". Even though Jaime Reyes has been a complete financial flop (even in his other media tie-ins, via the failure of his stealth pilot and AQUAMAN upstaging him as the break-out character of Brave and the Bold) and Geoff Johns made contradictory statements about Green Lantern and wanting all four of the GLs to have their spotlight. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions and even named his 20010 CrisisCrossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", as a means to taunt fans who want a softer and lighter DC Universe.
5th May \\\'11 5:20:03 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'Not even going to comment on most of this, but Brightest Day is not titled so because he\\\'s \\\'mocking\\\' anyone. Oh, and Keith Giffen created Jamie Reyes Never mind the insane Jamie hatred here...\\\'\\\'\\\'
(Deleted entry due to not fitting in with Darth Wiki)
5th May \\\'11 11:12:14 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t kill off the much loathed Green Lanterns John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, or Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen series and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night.
5th May \\\'11 11:19:30 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.\\\'\\\'
6th May \\\'11 12:52:14 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'LicenseToWhine. You don\\\'t have it. Johns is still a well regarded and popular writer.\\\'\\\'\\\'
(Deleted entry due to JamieGumb\\\'s obvious crusade against Johns)
6th May \\\'11 1:51:02 PM JamieGumb
\\\'\\\'\\\'Shut the hell up; Blackest Night, Brightest Day, and the Flash relaunch has turned a good chunk of fans against Geoff. Not to mention the John/Kyle fan who hate him for bringing back Hal and hate his gore fetish\\\'\\\'\\\'
GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
6th May \\\'11 2:02:02 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth (a statement that has semi-cooled longstanding complaints from John Stewart and Kyle Rayner fans who dislike Geoff\\\'s blatant favoritism towards Hal over the other Lanterns). Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
** The gore is another major complaint about Geoff Johns. Green Lantern, since the Sinestro Corps War, features at least one murder or maiming minimum per issue.
** It got worse: Brightest Day ended with [[spoiler: Geoff \\\"fixing\\\" Swamp Thing via killing off the existing version of Swamp Thing just so that he could resurrect Alec Holland and turn him into a grim and gritty version of Swamp Thing, effectively restoring the 1970s Lein Wein version of the character. Not to mention Geoff getting his grubby paws on John Constantine, though to appease the writers of the character\\\'s comic, they are now creating \\\"TWO\\\" John Constantines, effectively reducing Hellblazer to alternate continuity status.]]
*** Not to mention the fact that JLA fans hate him, in large part because Geoff has personally vetoed the restoration of the \\\"Big Seven\\\" roster in the book, saving that for himself for a plan run on the title... which will be drawn by Jim Lee, king of the late books. As such, JLA fans have had to suffer through a cadre of random roster generator line-ups with writers unable to use any of the Big Guns until Jim Lee finishes up Geoff\\\'s scripts for him. Which might never happen this decade since Lee is insanely slow and still has to finish up All-Star Batman and Robin first....
6th May \\\'11 2:08:57 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth (a statement that has semi-cooled longstanding complaints from John Stewart and Kyle Rayner fans who dislike Geoff\\\'s blatant favoritism towards Hal over the other Lanterns). Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
** The gore is major complaint about Geoff Johns. Green Lantern, since the Sinestro Corps War, features at least one murder or maiming minimum per issue. Not to mention the running gag that Geoff has established with Risk, who keeps losing limbs every time he runs into Superboy Prime.
** It got worse: Brightest Day ended with [[spoiler: Geoff \\\"fixing\\\" Swamp Thing via killing off the existing version of Swamp Thing just so that he could resurrect Alec Holland and turn him into Swamp Thing, effectively restoring the 1970s Lein Wein version of the character and erasing Alan Moore\\\'s version of the character from existence. Not to mention Geoff getting his grubby paws on John Constantine, though to appease the writers of the character\\\'s comic, they are now creating \\\"TWO\\\" John Constantines, effectively reducing Hellblazer to alternate continuity status.]]
*** Same could be said about the [[spoiler: Parallax retcon for Hal Jordan, as many fans disliked how Geoff effectively declared that Hal was innocent all along and have everyone [[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong but Batman]] accept it without question. Many fans, even some Hal Jordan fans, complained that it was a cheap cop-out.]]
** Not to mention the fact that JLA fans hate him, in large part because Geoff has personally vetoed the restoration of the \\\"Big Seven\\\" roster in the book, saving that for himself for a plan run on the title... which will be drawn by Jim Lee, king of the late books. As such, JLA fans have had to suffer through a cadre of random roster generator line-ups with writers unable to use any of the Big Guns until Jim Lee finishes up Geoff\\\'s scripts for him. Which might never happen this decade since Lee is insanely slow and still has to finish up All-Star Batman and Robin first....
6th May \\\'11 2:46:52 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'1. You don\\\'t speak for everyone. 2. Brightest day was not universally hated. Neither was the Flash reboot, nor Blackest Night by a longshot. Critically or commercially. Hal\\\'s revival wasn\\\'t universally hated, either. Most of these weren\\\'t even largely hated.\\\'\\\'\\\'
(Deleted entry again, due to reasonable reasons listed)
12th May \\\'11 11:34:51 AM Revengers69
\\\'\\\'\\\'Since Lightysnake is going to be a cockblocker and not let Geoff Johns be included because of Butthurt, NO examples should be put here. Make it like Small Name Big Ego, since Lightysnake had to ruin it for everyone.....\\\'\\\'\\\'
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\\\'\\\'\\\'Edit warring is bad, but that\\\'s a bit much, \\\'specially considering you\\\'re not a mod. And both you and JamieGumb have hardly been editing cooly. I mean, \\\"cockblocker\\\"? Seriously?\\\'\\\'\\\'
14th May \\\'11 1:58:23 AM Revengers69
* GeoffJohns has become this trope in the last year: Brightest Day was a complete and total flop critically, being viewed as muddled mess with no coherent plot that doesn\\\'t even come into play until the last two issues when [[spoiler: Swamp Thing shows up out of nowhere]] and his Flash run, featuring Barry Allen, has been treated like a red-headed stepchild by the Wally West fans that dominate the book\\\'s fanbase. Even more telling is Flashpoint, an AgeOfApocalypse meets House of M type alternate reality book being greeted with yawns and utter apathy at best and scorn at worst, given how Brightest Day pretty much derailed any interest most readers had in the never-ending spree of CrisisCrossovers Geoff Johns has helped plot out for DC since 2005.
14th May \\\'11 8:41:44 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'If you\\\'re going to add someone, please don\\\'t make things up. BD was nothing close to a flop. While I would share the criticisms and genuinely disliked the event, it wasn\\\'t that panned. Flashpoint hasn\\\'t been met with \\\'aparthy or scorn\\\' by and large either. I don\\\'t even like Johns that much these days, but he doesn\\\'t belong here yet, unlike Bendis. I made a post on the discussion page. You disagree, then take it there, explain your reasoning and provide evidence\\\'\\\'\\\'
(Entry deleted for the final time in flame war)
5th May \\\'11 5:20:03 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'Not even going to comment on most of this, but Brightest Day is not titled so because he\\\'s \\\'mocking\\\' anyone. Oh, and Keith Giffen created Jamie Reyes Never mind the insane Jamie hatred here...\\\'\\\'\\\'
(Deleted entry due to not fitting in with Darth Wiki)
5th May \\\'11 11:12:14 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t kill off the much loathed Green Lanterns John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, or Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen series and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night.
5th May \\\'11 11:19:30 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.\\\'\\\'
6th May \\\'11 12:52:14 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'LicenseToWhine. You don\\\'t have it. Johns is still a well regarded and popular writer.\\\'\\\'\\\'
(Deleted entry due to JamieGumb\\\'s obvious crusade against Johns)
6th May \\\'11 1:51:02 PM JamieGumb
\\\'\\\'\\\'Shut the hell up; Blackest Night, Brightest Day, and the Flash relaunch has turned a good chunk of fans against Geoff. Not to mention the John/Kyle fan who hate him for bringing back Hal and hate his gore fetish\\\'\\\'\\\'
GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
6th May \\\'11 2:02:02 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth (a statement that has semi-cooled longstanding complaints from John Stewart and Kyle Rayner fans who dislike Geoff\\\'s blatant favoritism towards Hal over the other Lanterns). Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
** The gore is another major complaint about Geoff Johns. Green Lantern, since the Sinestro Corps War, features at least one murder or maiming minimum per issue.
** It got worse: Brightest Day ended with [[spoiler: Geoff \\\"fixing\\\" Swamp Thing via killing off the existing version of Swamp Thing just so that he could resurrect Alec Holland and turn him into a grim and gritty version of Swamp Thing, effectively restoring the 1970s Lein Wein version of the character. Not to mention Geoff getting his grubby paws on John Constantine, though to appease the writers of the character\\\'s comic, they are now creating \\\"TWO\\\" John Constantines, effectively reducing Hellblazer to alternate continuity status.]]
*** Not to mention the fact that JLA fans hate him, in large part because Geoff has personally vetoed the restoration of the \\\"Big Seven\\\" roster in the book, saving that for himself for a plan run on the title... which will be drawn by Jim Lee, king of the late books. As such, JLA fans have had to suffer through a cadre of random roster generator line-ups with writers unable to use any of the Big Guns until Jim Lee finishes up Geoff\\\'s scripts for him. Which might never happen this decade since Lee is insanely slow and still has to finish up All-Star Batman and Robin first....
6th May \\\'11 2:08:57 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth (a statement that has semi-cooled longstanding complaints from John Stewart and Kyle Rayner fans who dislike Geoff\\\'s blatant favoritism towards Hal over the other Lanterns). Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
** The gore is major complaint about Geoff Johns. Green Lantern, since the Sinestro Corps War, features at least one murder or maiming minimum per issue. Not to mention the running gag that Geoff has established with Risk, who keeps losing limbs every time he runs into Superboy Prime.
** It got worse: Brightest Day ended with [[spoiler: Geoff \\\"fixing\\\" Swamp Thing via killing off the existing version of Swamp Thing just so that he could resurrect Alec Holland and turn him into Swamp Thing, effectively restoring the 1970s Lein Wein version of the character and erasing Alan Moore\\\'s version of the character from existence. Not to mention Geoff getting his grubby paws on John Constantine, though to appease the writers of the character\\\'s comic, they are now creating \\\"TWO\\\" John Constantines, effectively reducing Hellblazer to alternate continuity status.]]
*** Same could be said about the [[spoiler: Parallax retcon for Hal Jordan, as many fans disliked how Geoff effectively declared that Hal was innocent all along and have everyone [[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong but Batman]] accept it without question. Many fans, even some Hal Jordan fans, complained that it was a cheap cop-out.]]
** Not to mention the fact that JLA fans hate him, in large part because Geoff has personally vetoed the restoration of the \\\"Big Seven\\\" roster in the book, saving that for himself for a plan run on the title... which will be drawn by Jim Lee, king of the late books. As such, JLA fans have had to suffer through a cadre of random roster generator line-ups with writers unable to use any of the Big Guns until Jim Lee finishes up Geoff\\\'s scripts for him. Which might never happen this decade since Lee is insanely slow and still has to finish up All-Star Batman and Robin first....
6th May \\\'11 2:46:52 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'1. You don\\\'t speak for everyone. 2. Brightest day was not universally hated. Neither was the Flash reboot, nor Blackest Night by a longshot. Critically or commercially. Hal\\\'s revival wasn\\\'t universally hated, either. Most of these weren\\\'t even largely hated.\\\'\\\'\\\'
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12th May \\\'11 11:34:51 AM Revengers69
\\\'\\\'\\\'Since Lightysnake is going to be a cockblocker and not let Geoff Johns be included because of Butthurt, NO examples should be put here. Make it like Small Name Big Ego, since Lightysnake had to ruin it for everyone.....\\\'\\\'\\\'
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\\\'\\\'\\\'Edit warring is bad, but that\\\'s a bit much, \\\'specially considering you\\\'re not a mod. And both you and JamieGumb have hardly been editing cooly. I mean, \\\"cockblocker\\\"? Seriously?\\\'\\\'\\\'
14th May \\\'11 1:58:23 AM Revengers69
* GeoffJohns has become this trope in the last year: Brightest Day was a complete and total flop critically, being viewed as muddled mess with no coherent plot that doesn\\\'t even come into play until the last two issues when [[spoiler: Swamp Thing shows up out of nowhere]] and his Flash run, featuring Barry Allen, has been treated like a red-headed stepchild by the Wally West fans that dominate the book\\\'s fanbase. Even more telling is Flashpoint, an AgeOfApocalypse meets House of M type alternate reality book being greeted with yawns and utter apathy at best and scorn at worst, given how Brightest Day pretty much derailed any interest most readers had in the never-ending spree of CrisisCrossovers Geoff Johns has helped plot out for DC since 2005.
14th May \\\'11 8:41:44 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'If you\\\'re going to add someone, please don\\\'t make things up. BD was nothing close to a flop. While I would share the criticisms and genuinely disliked the event, it wasn\\\'t that panned. Flashpoint hasn\\\'t been met with \\\'aparthy or scorn\\\' by and large either. I don\\\'t even like Johns that much these days, but he doesn\\\'t belong here yet, unlike Bendis. I made a post on the discussion page. You disagree, then take it there, explain your reasoning and provide evidence\\\'\\\'\\\'
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* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with his own creation, who he has since shamelessly whored out via the media arm of DC Comics (with him writing the episode of Smallville that was designed as a pilot for a Blue Beetle TV series, which thankfully flopped), all the while telling fans of Ted Kord to suck it because \\\"resurrecting Ted would hurt Jaime Reyes\\\'s ability to find an audience\\\". Even though Jaime Reyes has been a complete financial flop (even in his other media tie-ins, via the failure of his stealth pilot and AQUAMAN upstaging him as the break-out character of Brave and the Bold) and Geoff Johns made contradictory statements about Green Lantern and wanting all four of the GLs to have their spotlight. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions and even named his 20010 CrisisCrossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", as a means to taunt fans who want a softer and lighter DC Universe.
5th May \\\'11 5:20:03 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'Not even going to comment on most of this, but Brightest Day is not titled so because he\\\'s \\\'mocking\\\' anyone. Oh, and Keith Giffen created Jamie Reyes Never mind the insane Jamie hatred here...\\\'\\\'\\\'
(Deleted entry due to not fitting in with Darth Wiki)
5th May \\\'11 11:12:14 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t kill off the much loathed Green Lanterns John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, or Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen series and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night.
5th May \\\'11 11:19:30 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.\\\'\\\'
6th May \\\'11 12:52:14 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'LicenseToWhine. You don\\\'t have it. Johns is still a well regarded and popular writer.\\\'\\\'\\\'
(Deleted entry due to JamieGumb\\\'s obvious crusade against Johns)
6th May \\\'11 1:51:02 PM JamieGumb
\\\'\\\'\\\'Shut the hell up; Blackest Night, Brightest Day, and the Flash relaunch has turned a good chunk of fans against Geoff. Not to mention the John/Kyle fan who hate him for bringing back Hal and hate his gore fetish\\\'\\\'\\\'
GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
6th May \\\'11 2:02:02 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth (a statement that has semi-cooled longstanding complaints from John Stewart and Kyle Rayner fans who dislike Geoff\\\'s blatant favoritism towards Hal over the other Lanterns). Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
** The gore is another major complaint about Geoff Johns. Green Lantern, since the Sinestro Corps War, features at least one murder or maiming minimum per issue.
** It got worse: Brightest Day ended with [[spoiler: Geoff \\\"fixing\\\" Swamp Thing via killing off the existing version of Swamp Thing just so that he could resurrect Alec Holland and turn him into a grim and gritty version of Swamp Thing, effectively restoring the 1970s Lein Wein version of the character. Not to mention Geoff getting his grubby paws on John Constantine, though to appease the writers of the character\\\'s comic, they are now creating \\\"TWO\\\" John Constantines, effectively reducing Hellblazer to alternate continuity status.]]
*** Not to mention the fact that JLA fans hate him, in large part because Geoff has personally vetoed the restoration of the \\\"Big Seven\\\" roster in the book, saving that for himself for a plan run on the title... which will be drawn by Jim Lee, king of the late books. As such, JLA fans have had to suffer through a cadre of random roster generator line-ups with writers unable to use any of the Big Guns until Jim Lee finishes up Geoff\\\'s scripts for him. Which might never happen this decade since Lee is insanely slow and still has to finish up All-Star Batman and Robin first....
6th May \\\'11 2:08:57 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth (a statement that has semi-cooled longstanding complaints from John Stewart and Kyle Rayner fans who dislike Geoff\\\'s blatant favoritism towards Hal over the other Lanterns). Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
** The gore is major complaint about Geoff Johns. Green Lantern, since the Sinestro Corps War, features at least one murder or maiming minimum per issue. Not to mention the running gag that Geoff has established with Risk, who keeps losing limbs every time he runs into Superboy Prime.
** It got worse: Brightest Day ended with [[spoiler: Geoff \\\"fixing\\\" Swamp Thing via killing off the existing version of Swamp Thing just so that he could resurrect Alec Holland and turn him into Swamp Thing, effectively restoring the 1970s Lein Wein version of the character and erasing Alan Moore\\\'s version of the character from existence. Not to mention Geoff getting his grubby paws on John Constantine, though to appease the writers of the character\\\'s comic, they are now creating \\\"TWO\\\" John Constantines, effectively reducing Hellblazer to alternate continuity status.]]
*** Same could be said about the [[spoiler: Parallax retcon for Hal Jordan, as many fans disliked how Geoff effectively declared that Hal was innocent all along and have everyone [[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong but Batman]] accept it without question. Many fans, even some Hal Jordan fans, complained that it was a cheap cop-out.]]
** Not to mention the fact that JLA fans hate him, in large part because Geoff has personally vetoed the restoration of the \\\"Big Seven\\\" roster in the book, saving that for himself for a plan run on the title... which will be drawn by Jim Lee, king of the late books. As such, JLA fans have had to suffer through a cadre of random roster generator line-ups with writers unable to use any of the Big Guns until Jim Lee finishes up Geoff\\\'s scripts for him. Which might never happen this decade since Lee is insanely slow and still has to finish up All-Star Batman and Robin first....
6th May \\\'11 2:46:52 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'1. You don\\\'t speak for everyone. 2. Brightest day was not universally hated. Neither was the Flash reboot, nor Blackest Night by a longshot. Critically or commercially. Hal\\\'s revival wasn\\\'t universally hated, either. Most of these weren\\\'t even largely hated.\\\'\\\'\\\'
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12th May \\\'11 11:34:51 AM Revengers69
\\\'\\\'\\\'Since Lightysnake is going to be a cockblocker and not let Geoff Johns be included because of Butthurt, NO examples should be put here. Make it like Small Name Big Ego, since Lightysnake had to ruin it for everyone.....\\\'\\\'\\\'
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14th May \\\'11 1:58:23 AM Revengers69
* GeoffJohns has become this trope in the last year: Brightest Day was a complete and total flop critically, being viewed as muddled mess with no coherent plot that doesn\\\'t even come into play until the last two issues when [[spoiler: Swamp Thing shows up out of nowhere]] and his Flash run, featuring Barry Allen, has been treated like a red-headed stepchild by the Wally West fans that dominate the book\\\'s fanbase. Even more telling is Flashpoint, an AgeOfApocalypse meets House of M type alternate reality book being greeted with yawns and utter apathy at best and scorn at worst, given how Brightest Day pretty much derailed any interest most readers had in the never-ending spree of CrisisCrossovers Geoff Johns has helped plot out for DC since 2005.
14th May \\\'11 8:41:44 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'If you\\\'re going to add someone, please don\\\'t make things up. BD was nothing close to a flop. While I would share the criticisms and genuinely disliked the event, it wasn\\\'t that panned. Flashpoint hasn\\\'t been met with \\\'aparthy or scorn\\\' by and large either. I don\\\'t even like Johns that much these days, but he doesn\\\'t belong here yet, unlike Bendis. I made a post on the discussion page. You disagree, then take it there, explain your reasoning and provide evidence\\\'\\\'\\\'
(Entry deleted for the final time in flame war)
5th May \\\'11 5:20:03 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'Not even going to comment on most of this, but Brightest Day is not titled so because he\\\'s \\\'mocking\\\' anyone. Oh, and Keith Giffen created Jamie Reyes Never mind the insane Jamie hatred here...\\\'\\\'\\\'
(Deleted entry due to not fitting in with Darth Wiki)
5th May \\\'11 11:12:14 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t kill off the much loathed Green Lanterns John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, or Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen series and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night.
5th May \\\'11 11:19:30 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.\\\'\\\'
6th May \\\'11 12:52:14 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'LicenseToWhine. You don\\\'t have it. Johns is still a well regarded and popular writer.\\\'\\\'\\\'
(Deleted entry due to JamieGumb\\\'s obvious crusade against Johns)
6th May \\\'11 1:51:02 PM JamieGumb
\\\'\\\'\\\'Shut the hell up; Blackest Night, Brightest Day, and the Flash relaunch has turned a good chunk of fans against Geoff. Not to mention the John/Kyle fan who hate him for bringing back Hal and hate his gore fetish\\\'\\\'\\\'
GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
6th May \\\'11 2:02:02 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth (a statement that has semi-cooled longstanding complaints from John Stewart and Kyle Rayner fans who dislike Geoff\\\'s blatant favoritism towards Hal over the other Lanterns). Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
** The gore is another major complaint about Geoff Johns. Green Lantern, since the Sinestro Corps War, features at least one murder or maiming minimum per issue.
** It got worse: Brightest Day ended with [[spoiler: Geoff \\\"fixing\\\" Swamp Thing via killing off the existing version of Swamp Thing just so that he could resurrect Alec Holland and turn him into a grim and gritty version of Swamp Thing, effectively restoring the 1970s Lein Wein version of the character. Not to mention Geoff getting his grubby paws on John Constantine, though to appease the writers of the character\\\'s comic, they are now creating \\\"TWO\\\" John Constantines, effectively reducing Hellblazer to alternate continuity status.]]
*** Not to mention the fact that JLA fans hate him, in large part because Geoff has personally vetoed the restoration of the \\\"Big Seven\\\" roster in the book, saving that for himself for a plan run on the title... which will be drawn by Jim Lee, king of the late books. As such, JLA fans have had to suffer through a cadre of random roster generator line-ups with writers unable to use any of the Big Guns until Jim Lee finishes up Geoff\\\'s scripts for him. Which might never happen this decade since Lee is insanely slow and still has to finish up All-Star Batman and Robin first....
6th May \\\'11 2:08:57 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth (a statement that has semi-cooled longstanding complaints from John Stewart and Kyle Rayner fans who dislike Geoff\\\'s blatant favoritism towards Hal over the other Lanterns). Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
** The gore is major complaint about Geoff Johns. Green Lantern, since the Sinestro Corps War, features at least one murder or maiming minimum per issue. Not to mention the running gag that Geoff has established with Risk, who keeps losing limbs every time he runs into Superboy Prime.
** It got worse: Brightest Day ended with [[spoiler: Geoff \\\"fixing\\\" Swamp Thing via killing off the existing version of Swamp Thing just so that he could resurrect Alec Holland and turn him into Swamp Thing, effectively restoring the 1970s Lein Wein version of the character and erasing Alan Moore\\\'s version of the character from existence. Not to mention Geoff getting his grubby paws on John Constantine, though to appease the writers of the character\\\'s comic, they are now creating \\\"TWO\\\" John Constantines, effectively reducing Hellblazer to alternate continuity status.]]
*** Same could be said about the [[spoiler: Parallax retcon for Hal Jordan, as many fans disliked how Geoff effectively declared that Hal was innocent all along and have everyone [[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong but Batman]] accept it without question. Many fans, even some Hal Jordan fans, complained that it was a cheap cop-out.]]
** Not to mention the fact that JLA fans hate him, in large part because Geoff has personally vetoed the restoration of the \\\"Big Seven\\\" roster in the book, saving that for himself for a plan run on the title... which will be drawn by Jim Lee, king of the late books. As such, JLA fans have had to suffer through a cadre of random roster generator line-ups with writers unable to use any of the Big Guns until Jim Lee finishes up Geoff\\\'s scripts for him. Which might never happen this decade since Lee is insanely slow and still has to finish up All-Star Batman and Robin first....
6th May \\\'11 2:46:52 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'1. You don\\\'t speak for everyone. 2. Brightest day was not universally hated. Neither was the Flash reboot, nor Blackest Night by a longshot. Critically or commercially. Hal\\\'s revival wasn\\\'t universally hated, either. Most of these weren\\\'t even largely hated.\\\'\\\'\\\'
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12th May \\\'11 11:34:51 AM Revengers69
\\\'\\\'\\\'Since Lightysnake is going to be a cockblocker and not let Geoff Johns be included because of Butthurt, NO examples should be put here. Make it like Small Name Big Ego, since Lightysnake had to ruin it for everyone.....\\\'\\\'\\\'
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14th May \\\'11 1:58:23 AM Revengers69
* GeoffJohns has become this trope in the last year: Brightest Day was a complete and total flop critically, being viewed as muddled mess with no coherent plot that doesn\\\'t even come into play until the last two issues when [[spoiler: Swamp Thing shows up out of nowhere]] and his Flash run, featuring Barry Allen, has been treated like a red-headed stepchild by the Wally West fans that dominate the book\\\'s fanbase. Even more telling is Flashpoint, an AgeOfApocalypse meets House of M type alternate reality book being greeted with yawns and utter apathy at best and scorn at worst, given how Brightest Day pretty much derailed any interest most readers had in the never-ending spree of CrisisCrossovers Geoff Johns has helped plot out for DC since 2005.
14th May \\\'11 8:41:44 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'If you\\\'re going to add someone, please don\\\'t make things up. BD was nothing close to a flop. While I would share the criticisms and genuinely disliked the event, it wasn\\\'t that panned. Flashpoint hasn\\\'t been met with \\\'aparthy or scorn\\\' by and large either. I don\\\'t even like Johns that much these days, but he doesn\\\'t belong here yet, unlike Bendis. I made a post on the discussion page. You disagree, then take it there, explain your reasoning and provide evidence\\\'\\\'\\\'
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* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with his own creation, who he has since shamelessly whored out via the media arm of DC Comics (with him writing the episode of Smallville that was designed as a pilot for a Blue Beetle TV series, which thankfully flopped), all the while telling fans of Ted Kord to suck it because \
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* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with his own creation, who he has since shamelessly whored out via the media arm of DC Comics (with him writing the episode of Smallville that was designed as a pilot for a Blue Beetle TV series, which thankfully flopped), all the while telling fans of Ted Kord to suck it because \\\"resurrecting Ted would hurt Jaime Reyes\\\'s ability to find an audience\\\". Even though Jaime Reyes has been a complete financial flop (even in his other media tie-ins, via the failure of his stealth pilot and AQUAMAN upstaging him as the break-out character of Brave and the Bold) and Geoff Johns made contradictory statements about Green Lantern and wanting all four of the GLs to have their spotlight. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions and even named his 20010 CrisisCrossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", as a means to taunt fans who want a softer and lighter DC Universe.
5th May \\\'11 5:20:03 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'Not even going to comment on most of this, but Brightest Day is not titled so because he\\\'s \\\'mocking\\\' anyone. Oh, and Keith Giffen created Jamie Reyes Never mind the insane Jamie hatred here...\\\'\\\'\\\'
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5th May \\\'11 11:12:14 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t kill off the much loathed Green Lanterns John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, or Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen series and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night.
5th May \\\'11 11:19:30 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.\\\'\\\'
6th May \\\'11 12:52:14 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'LicenseToWhine. You don\\\'t have it. Johns is still a well regarded and popular writer.\\\'\\\'\\\'
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6th May \\\'11 1:51:02 PM JamieGumb
\\\'\\\'\\\'Shut the hell up; Blackest Night, Brightest Day, and the Flash relaunch has turned a good chunk of fans against Geoff. Not to mention the John/Kyle fan who hate him for bringing back Hal and hate his gore fetish\\\'\\\'\\\'
GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
6th May \\\'11 2:02:02 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth (a statement that has semi-cooled longstanding complaints from John Stewart and Kyle Rayner fans who dislike Geoff\\\'s blatant favoritism towards Hal over the other Lanterns). Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
** The gore is another major complaint about Geoff Johns. Green Lantern, since the Sinestro Corps War, features at least one murder or maiming minimum per issue.
** It got worse: Brightest Day ended with [[spoiler: Geoff \\\"fixing\\\" Swamp Thing via killing off the existing version of Swamp Thing just so that he could resurrect Alec Holland and turn him into a grim and gritty version of Swamp Thing, effectively restoring the 1970s Lein Wein version of the character. Not to mention Geoff getting his grubby paws on John Constantine, though to appease the writers of the character\\\'s comic, they are now creating \\\"TWO\\\" John Constantines, effectively reducing Hellblazer to alternate continuity status.]]
*** Not to mention the fact that JLA fans hate him, in large part because Geoff has personally vetoed the restoration of the \\\"Big Seven\\\" roster in the book, saving that for himself for a plan run on the title... which will be drawn by Jim Lee, king of the late books. As such, JLA fans have had to suffer through a cadre of random roster generator line-ups with writers unable to use any of the Big Guns until Jim Lee finishes up Geoff\\\'s scripts for him. Which might never happen this decade since Lee is insanely slow and still has to finish up All-Star Batman and Robin first....
6th May \\\'11 2:08:57 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth (a statement that has semi-cooled longstanding complaints from John Stewart and Kyle Rayner fans who dislike Geoff\\\'s blatant favoritism towards Hal over the other Lanterns). Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
** The gore is major complaint about Geoff Johns. Green Lantern, since the Sinestro Corps War, features at least one murder or maiming minimum per issue. Not to mention the running gag that Geoff has established with Risk, who keeps losing limbs every time he runs into Superboy Prime.
** It got worse: Brightest Day ended with [[spoiler: Geoff \\\"fixing\\\" Swamp Thing via killing off the existing version of Swamp Thing just so that he could resurrect Alec Holland and turn him into Swamp Thing, effectively restoring the 1970s Lein Wein version of the character and erasing Alan Moore\\\'s version of the character from existence. Not to mention Geoff getting his grubby paws on John Constantine, though to appease the writers of the character\\\'s comic, they are now creating \\\"TWO\\\" John Constantines, effectively reducing Hellblazer to alternate continuity status.]]
*** Same could be said about the [[spoiler: Parallax retcon for Hal Jordan, as many fans disliked how Geoff effectively declared that Hal was innocent all along and have everyone [[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong but Batman]] accept it without question. Many fans, even some Hal Jordan fans, complained that it was a cheap cop-out.]]
** Not to mention the fact that JLA fans hate him, in large part because Geoff has personally vetoed the restoration of the \\\"Big Seven\\\" roster in the book, saving that for himself for a plan run on the title... which will be drawn by Jim Lee, king of the late books. As such, JLA fans have had to suffer through a cadre of random roster generator line-ups with writers unable to use any of the Big Guns until Jim Lee finishes up Geoff\\\'s scripts for him. Which might never happen this decade since Lee is insanely slow and still has to finish up All-Star Batman and Robin first....
6th May \\\'11 2:46:52 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'1. You don\\\'t speak for everyone. 2. Brightest day was not universally hated. Neither was the Flash reboot, nor Blackest Night by a longshot. Critically or commercially. Hal\\\'s revival wasn\\\'t universally hated, either. Most of these weren\\\'t even largely hated.\\\'\\\'\\\'
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12th May \\\'11 11:34:51 AM Revengers69
\\\'\\\'\\\'Since Lightysnake is going to be a cockblocker and not let Geoff Johns be included because of Butthurt, NO examples should be put here. Make it like Small Name Big Ego, since Lightysnake had to ruin it for everyone.....\\\'\\\'\\\'
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14th May \\\'11 1:58:23 AM Revengers69
* GeoffJohns has become this trope in the last year: Brightest Day was a complete and total flop critically, being viewed as muddled mess with no coherent plot that doesn\\\'t even come into play until the last two issues when [[spoiler: Swamp Thing shows up out of nowhere]] and his Flash run, featuring Barry Allen, has been treated like a red-headed stepchild by the Wally West fans that dominate the book\\\'s fanbase. Even more telling is Flashpoint, an AgeOfApocalypse meets House of M type alternate reality book being greeted with yawns and utter apathy at best and scorn at worst, given how Brightest Day pretty much derailed any interest most readers had in the never-ending spree of CrisisCrossovers Geoff Johns has helped plot out for DC since 2005.
5th May \\\'11 5:20:03 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'Not even going to comment on most of this, but Brightest Day is not titled so because he\\\'s \\\'mocking\\\' anyone. Oh, and Keith Giffen created Jamie Reyes Never mind the insane Jamie hatred here...\\\'\\\'\\\'
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5th May \\\'11 11:12:14 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t kill off the much loathed Green Lanterns John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, or Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen series and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night.
5th May \\\'11 11:19:30 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.\\\'\\\'
6th May \\\'11 12:52:14 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'LicenseToWhine. You don\\\'t have it. Johns is still a well regarded and popular writer.\\\'\\\'\\\'
(Deleted entry due to JamieGumb\\\'s obvious crusade against Johns)
6th May \\\'11 1:51:02 PM JamieGumb
\\\'\\\'\\\'Shut the hell up; Blackest Night, Brightest Day, and the Flash relaunch has turned a good chunk of fans against Geoff. Not to mention the John/Kyle fan who hate him for bringing back Hal and hate his gore fetish\\\'\\\'\\\'
GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth. Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
6th May \\\'11 2:02:02 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth (a statement that has semi-cooled longstanding complaints from John Stewart and Kyle Rayner fans who dislike Geoff\\\'s blatant favoritism towards Hal over the other Lanterns). Oh and fucking TEASING fans with constant baiting that Ted is still alive that he has zero intention of following up on, in the exact same fashion Bob Harras teased fans of Spider-Man that Baby May was alive. Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
** The gore is another major complaint about Geoff Johns. Green Lantern, since the Sinestro Corps War, features at least one murder or maiming minimum per issue.
** It got worse: Brightest Day ended with [[spoiler: Geoff \\\"fixing\\\" Swamp Thing via killing off the existing version of Swamp Thing just so that he could resurrect Alec Holland and turn him into a grim and gritty version of Swamp Thing, effectively restoring the 1970s Lein Wein version of the character. Not to mention Geoff getting his grubby paws on John Constantine, though to appease the writers of the character\\\'s comic, they are now creating \\\"TWO\\\" John Constantines, effectively reducing Hellblazer to alternate continuity status.]]
*** Not to mention the fact that JLA fans hate him, in large part because Geoff has personally vetoed the restoration of the \\\"Big Seven\\\" roster in the book, saving that for himself for a plan run on the title... which will be drawn by Jim Lee, king of the late books. As such, JLA fans have had to suffer through a cadre of random roster generator line-ups with writers unable to use any of the Big Guns until Jim Lee finishes up Geoff\\\'s scripts for him. Which might never happen this decade since Lee is insanely slow and still has to finish up All-Star Batman and Robin first....
6th May \\\'11 2:08:57 PM JamieGumb
* GeoffJohns was a Hollywood glorified gopher who hit it big with JSA, Flash, and landed the plum assignment of restoring Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, a move that heralded the book becoming DC\\\'s most profitable franchise. But at the same time Johns began to slip. The first crack was Teen Titans, a controversial revamp that saw most of the Young Justice characters imported into the book changed beyond all belief, most notably Kid Flash and Superboy turned into dark and funless parodies of themselves. Then came Infinite Crisis, which saw Geoff Johns and several fellow writers, kill off popular B-List hero Ted Kord in order to replace him with [[TheWesley Jaime Reyes]], who despite Geoff\\\'s constant proclamation, has been box office poison and upstaged by both Aquaman and Booster Gold on \\\"Batman: Brave and the Bold\\\" and \\\"Smallville\\\" (which had a massive case of special effects failure when it came to translating Reyes in live action). This was further compounded by Geoff bitching and moaning about how Ted has to stay dead to \\\"give Jaime a chance to find his audience\\\", while at the same time bullshitting that he won\\\'t solve the BrokenBase problem of Green Lantern via killing off John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, and Guy Gardner in order to appease people who want Hal Jordan as the one true Green Lantern of Earth (a statement that has semi-cooled longstanding complaints from John Stewart and Kyle Rayner fans who dislike Geoff\\\'s blatant favoritism towards Hal over the other Lanterns). Infinite Crisis also gave us Superboy Prime, who served as Geoff\\\'s soap box to mocking fans who were afraid of change/complaining about the grim and gritty nature of the DC Universe under Dan DiDio and Geoff Johns. And the gore; besides Superboy Prime maiming and decapitating people left and right, Geoff Johns decided to retool Green Lantern into a gorefest of epic proportions. Not to mention the utter fail of the Barry Allen Flash series, Flashpoint (which has so many lame-spinoffs that it somehow makes House of M look original) and his tone-deafness over the backlash regarding his naming his 2010 Crisis Crossover \\\"Brightest Day\\\", which gave fans hope that we would see a softer, less gory version of the DC Universe coming out of the events of Blackest Night before reality ensued and people found out that it was more of Geoff John\\\'s gore fantasies.
** The gore is major complaint about Geoff Johns. Green Lantern, since the Sinestro Corps War, features at least one murder or maiming minimum per issue. Not to mention the running gag that Geoff has established with Risk, who keeps losing limbs every time he runs into Superboy Prime.
** It got worse: Brightest Day ended with [[spoiler: Geoff \\\"fixing\\\" Swamp Thing via killing off the existing version of Swamp Thing just so that he could resurrect Alec Holland and turn him into Swamp Thing, effectively restoring the 1970s Lein Wein version of the character and erasing Alan Moore\\\'s version of the character from existence. Not to mention Geoff getting his grubby paws on John Constantine, though to appease the writers of the character\\\'s comic, they are now creating \\\"TWO\\\" John Constantines, effectively reducing Hellblazer to alternate continuity status.]]
*** Same could be said about the [[spoiler: Parallax retcon for Hal Jordan, as many fans disliked how Geoff effectively declared that Hal was innocent all along and have everyone [[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong but Batman]] accept it without question. Many fans, even some Hal Jordan fans, complained that it was a cheap cop-out.]]
** Not to mention the fact that JLA fans hate him, in large part because Geoff has personally vetoed the restoration of the \\\"Big Seven\\\" roster in the book, saving that for himself for a plan run on the title... which will be drawn by Jim Lee, king of the late books. As such, JLA fans have had to suffer through a cadre of random roster generator line-ups with writers unable to use any of the Big Guns until Jim Lee finishes up Geoff\\\'s scripts for him. Which might never happen this decade since Lee is insanely slow and still has to finish up All-Star Batman and Robin first....
6th May \\\'11 2:46:52 PM Lightysnake
\\\'\\\'\\\'1. You don\\\'t speak for everyone. 2. Brightest day was not universally hated. Neither was the Flash reboot, nor Blackest Night by a longshot. Critically or commercially. Hal\\\'s revival wasn\\\'t universally hated, either. Most of these weren\\\'t even largely hated.\\\'\\\'\\\'
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12th May \\\'11 11:34:51 AM Revengers69
\\\'\\\'\\\'Since Lightysnake is going to be a cockblocker and not let Geoff Johns be included because of Butthurt, NO examples should be put here. Make it like Small Name Big Ego, since Lightysnake had to ruin it for everyone.....\\\'\\\'\\\'
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14th May \\\'11 1:58:23 AM Revengers69
* GeoffJohns has become this trope in the last year: Brightest Day was a complete and total flop critically, being viewed as muddled mess with no coherent plot that doesn\\\'t even come into play until the last two issues when [[spoiler: Swamp Thing shows up out of nowhere]] and his Flash run, featuring Barry Allen, has been treated like a red-headed stepchild by the Wally West fans that dominate the book\\\'s fanbase. Even more telling is Flashpoint, an AgeOfApocalypse meets House of M type alternate reality book being greeted with yawns and utter apathy at best and scorn at worst, given how Brightest Day pretty much derailed any interest most readers had in the never-ending spree of CrisisCrossovers Geoff Johns has helped plot out for DC since 2005.
