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Anyway, about the Justice thingy. She targeted and decimated Japan first because they have a huge potential to be her enemies due to their magical affinity because of their spiritual lifestyle. Considering that China and Korea have similarities in Japan, those two countries may have been the next target. The series offers us little detail on what happened to other countries but keep in mind that Africa, the Middle East or SE Asia is never mentioned at all. And the very powerful USA is now just \
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Anyway, about the Justice thingy. She targeted and decimated Japan first because they have a huge potential to be her enemies due to their magical affinity because of their spiritual lifestyle. Considering that China and Korea have similarities in Japan, those two countries may have been the next target. The series offers us little detail on what happened to other countries but keep in mind that Africa, the Middle East or SE Asia is never mentioned at all. And the very powerful USA is now just \\\"A Country.\\\" Prior to Justice\\\'s rebellion, people are already using Gears for warfare anyway. And also, most characters came from Europe and Ky\\\'s story says that it became a melting pot for different religions and races so Europe may have been the most decent place to live in during that time.
It\\\'s actually hard to compare GG with the BB world because GG mirrors real life issues. In GG, there is prostitution, banditry(Jellyfish pirates), poverty and practically any illegal activity we have in society today plus everybody is recovering from a hundred year war. And to boot, one big corrupt body is the only force to take care of all of these: the IPF. BB is more of a fantasy CrapsackWorld with crazy villains while GG is more of a CrapsackWorld with heavy realistic undertones.
Axl is almost arrested in the Drama CD, luckily he was able to escape, I have to clarify that. He was drunk and mentioned Einstein\\\'s formula. The Baiken thing is pretty minor, I just pointed it out to show that GG character\\\'s aren\\\'t living happily.
About BB, from the start Litchi is different than Ky in a sense that she\\\'s a good doctor rather than a hero. Litchi siding up with NOL proves that she\\\'s more realistic than idealistic, since she\\\'ll take the most effective method. I\\\'m not an expert in BB, but this is how I see it. Nobody take Bang seriously, but he is still serious and is still determined.
Ky on the other hand, embodies the KnightInShiningArmor type but in Overture, he lost his freedom to pursue justice. His situation changed from keeping peace within the populace into making peace with Gears, though I\\\'m not sure if anybody would support him. And yes he is a genuinely good guy and all but he\\\'s pretty much a puppet to make people happy when the government is doing dirty work in secret. Ky is more an example of a noble guy who just cannot have a break with a really sad, crazy, and complicated love-life, and a hero that defeated destructive monsters, but is pretty powerless against scheming humans.
In a way, there\\\'s hope in BB considering that Ragna and other characters are clearly against NOL. Though the process is bloody and massacre is involved, there can be a clear winner. One side can win, and when the NOL dies, you pull up the biggest thorn. This is what happened during the Crusades in GG, where the humans won and the Gears are defeated. But in GG, the aftermath makes things more complicated for naive Ky since he realized that the war just solves the survival problem and there are tons more. How can people rebel against the IPF or UN? They can\\\'t because those two, though corrupt, are necessary for political stability. Even if you destroy the Guild or the PWAB(which is impossible for now), it will take a miracle to weed out corrupt government officials with a corrupt police force.
Again, I\\\'m sorry I cannot provide a clear answer on what world is more crapsack but I can say that GG is surprisingly realistic. I\\\'ll update my analysis in the GG page one of these days, though I doubt it is soon. But I will include lots of dark stuff there next time.
It\\\'s actually hard to compare GG with the BB world because GG mirrors real life issues. In GG, there is prostitution, banditry(Jellyfish pirates), poverty and practically any illegal activity we have in society today plus everybody is recovering from a hundred year war. And to boot, one big corrupt body is the only force to take care of all of these: the IPF. BB is more of a fantasy CrapsackWorld with crazy villains while GG is more of a CrapsackWorld with heavy realistic undertones.
Axl is almost arrested in the Drama CD, luckily he was able to escape, I have to clarify that. He was drunk and mentioned Einstein\\\'s formula. The Baiken thing is pretty minor, I just pointed it out to show that GG character\\\'s aren\\\'t living happily.
About BB, from the start Litchi is different than Ky in a sense that she\\\'s a good doctor rather than a hero. Litchi siding up with NOL proves that she\\\'s more realistic than idealistic, since she\\\'ll take the most effective method. I\\\'m not an expert in BB, but this is how I see it. Nobody take Bang seriously, but he is still serious and is still determined.
Ky on the other hand, embodies the KnightInShiningArmor type but in Overture, he lost his freedom to pursue justice. His situation changed from keeping peace within the populace into making peace with Gears, though I\\\'m not sure if anybody would support him. And yes he is a genuinely good guy and all but he\\\'s pretty much a puppet to make people happy when the government is doing dirty work in secret. Ky is more an example of a noble guy who just cannot have a break with a really sad, crazy, and complicated love-life, and a hero that defeated destructive monsters, but is pretty powerless against scheming humans.
In a way, there\\\'s hope in BB considering that Ragna and other characters are clearly against NOL. Though the process is bloody and massacre is involved, there can be a clear winner. One side can win, and when the NOL dies, you pull up the biggest thorn. This is what happened during the Crusades in GG, where the humans won and the Gears are defeated. But in GG, the aftermath makes things more complicated for naive Ky since he realized that the war just solves the survival problem and there are tons more. How can people rebel against the IPF or UN? They can\\\'t because those two, though corrupt, are necessary for political stability. Even if you destroy the Guild or the PWAB(which is impossible for now), it will take a miracle to weed out corrupt government officials with a corrupt police force.
Again, I\\\'m sorry I cannot provide a clear answer on what world is more crapsack but I can say that GG is surprisingly realistic. I\\\'ll update my analysis in the GG page one of these days, though I doubt it is soon. But I will include lots of dark stuff there next time.
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Yeah, debating is fun especially if it makes sense, and we are making a lots and lots of sense. This thread is pretty educational. I deleted the trope with your permission but we can always bring it back once we reach the common ground. Your entry about BB is NOT wrong, but the GG one is just too optimistic considering all the points I pointed out. BB being a BlackAndGreyMorality is a valid point, but one should miss all the metaphysical concepts in GG.
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Yeah, debating is fun especially if it makes sense, and we are making a lots and lots of sense. This thread is pretty educational. I deleted the trope with your permission but we can always bring it back once we reach the common ground. Your entry about BB is NOT wrong, but the GG one is just too optimistic considering all the points I pointed out. BB being a BlackAndGreyMorality is a valid point, but one should NEVER miss all the metaphysical concepts in GG.
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Anyway, about the Justice thingy. She targeted and decimated Japan first because they have a huge potential to be her enemies due to their magical affinity because of their spiritual lifestyle. Considering that China and Korea have similarities in Japan, those two countries may have been the next target. The series offers us little detail on what happened to other countries but keep in mind that Africa, the Middle East or SE Asia is never mentioned at all. And the very powerful USA is now just \
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Anyway, about the Justice thingy. She targeted and decimated Japan first because they have a huge potential to be her enemies due to their magical affinity because of their spiritual lifestyle. Considering that China and Korea have similarities in Japan, those two countries may have been the next target. The series offers us little detail on what happened to other countries but keep in mind that Africa, the Middle East or SE Asia is never mentioned at all. And the very powerful USA is now just \\\"A Country.\\\" Prior to Justice\\\'s rebellion, people are already using Gears for warfare anyway. And also, most characters came from Europe and Ky\\\'s story says that it became a melting pot for different religions and races so Europe may have been the most decent place to live in during that time.
It\\\'s actually hard to compare GG with the BB world because GG mirrors real life issues. In GG, there is prostitution, banditry(Jellyfish pirates), poverty and practically any illegal activity we have in society today plus everybody is recovering from a hundred year war. And to boot, one big corrupt body is the only force to take care of all of these: the IPF. BB is more of a fantasy CrapsackWorld with crazy villains while GG is more of a CrapsackWorld with heavy realistic undertones.
Axl is almost arrested in the Drama CD, luckily he was able to escape, I have to clarify that. He was drunk and mentioned Einstein\\\'s formula. The Baiken thing is pretty minor, I just pointed it out to show that GG character\\\'s aren\\\'t living happily.
About BB, from the start Litchi is different than Ky in a sense that she\\\'s a good doctor rather than a hero. Litchi siding up with NOL proves that she\\\'s more realistic than idealistic, since she\\\'ll take the most effective method. I\\\'m not an expert in BB, but this is how I see it. Nobody take Bang seriously, but he is still serious and is still determined.
Ky on the other hand, embodies the KnightInShiningArmor type but in Overture, he lost his freedom to pursue justice. His situation changed from keeping peace within the populace into making peace with Gears, though I\\\'m not sure if anybody would support him. And yes he is a genuinely good guy and all but he\\\'s pretty much a puppet to make people happy when the government is doing dirty work in secret. Ky is more an example of a noble guy who just cannot have a break with a really sad, crazy, and complicated love-life, and a hero that defeated destructive monsters, but is pretty powerless against scheming humans.
In a way, there\\\'s hope in BB considering that Ragna and other characters are clearly against NOL. Though the process is bloody and massacre is involved, there can be a clear winner. One side can win, and when the NOL dies, you pull up the biggest thorn. This is what happened during the Crusades in GG, where the humans won and the Gears are defeated. But in GG, the aftermath makes things more complicated for naive Ky since he realized that the war just solves the survival problem and there are tons more. How can people rebel against the IPF or UN? They can\\\'t because those two, though corrupt, are necessary for political stability. Even if you destroy the Guild or the PWAB(which is impossible for now), it will take a miracle to weed out corrupt government officials with a corrupt police force.
Again, I\\\'m sorry I cannot provide a clear answer on what world is more crapsack but I can say that GG is surprisingly realistic.
It\\\'s actually hard to compare GG with the BB world because GG mirrors real life issues. In GG, there is prostitution, banditry(Jellyfish pirates), poverty and practically any illegal activity we have in society today plus everybody is recovering from a hundred year war. And to boot, one big corrupt body is the only force to take care of all of these: the IPF. BB is more of a fantasy CrapsackWorld with crazy villains while GG is more of a CrapsackWorld with heavy realistic undertones.
Axl is almost arrested in the Drama CD, luckily he was able to escape, I have to clarify that. He was drunk and mentioned Einstein\\\'s formula. The Baiken thing is pretty minor, I just pointed it out to show that GG character\\\'s aren\\\'t living happily.
About BB, from the start Litchi is different than Ky in a sense that she\\\'s a good doctor rather than a hero. Litchi siding up with NOL proves that she\\\'s more realistic than idealistic, since she\\\'ll take the most effective method. I\\\'m not an expert in BB, but this is how I see it. Nobody take Bang seriously, but he is still serious and is still determined.
Ky on the other hand, embodies the KnightInShiningArmor type but in Overture, he lost his freedom to pursue justice. His situation changed from keeping peace within the populace into making peace with Gears, though I\\\'m not sure if anybody would support him. And yes he is a genuinely good guy and all but he\\\'s pretty much a puppet to make people happy when the government is doing dirty work in secret. Ky is more an example of a noble guy who just cannot have a break with a really sad, crazy, and complicated love-life, and a hero that defeated destructive monsters, but is pretty powerless against scheming humans.
In a way, there\\\'s hope in BB considering that Ragna and other characters are clearly against NOL. Though the process is bloody and massacre is involved, there can be a clear winner. One side can win, and when the NOL dies, you pull up the biggest thorn. This is what happened during the Crusades in GG, where the humans won and the Gears are defeated. But in GG, the aftermath makes things more complicated for naive Ky since he realized that the war just solves the survival problem and there are tons more. How can people rebel against the IPF or UN? They can\\\'t because those two, though corrupt, are necessary for political stability. Even if you destroy the Guild or the PWAB(which is impossible for now), it will take a miracle to weed out corrupt government officials with a corrupt police force.
Again, I\\\'m sorry I cannot provide a clear answer on what world is more crapsack but I can say that GG is surprisingly realistic.
