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I just checked the history page and saw that you reverted my edit back on the 11th minutes after I introduced it, @/MajinGojira:
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I just checked the history page and saw that you reverted my edit back on the 9th minutes after I introduced it, @/MajinGojira:
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-->Not all of it was written down and it was oral before it was written down. Check out \
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-->Not all of it was written down and it was oral before it was written down. Check out \\\"A History of God\\\" sometime and learn yourself some things.
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-->* HebrewMythology
-->** TheBible - which collects an edited version of many of the earlier oral traditions.
-->*** ChristianMythology
First of all, your edit reason\\\'s tone comes off as \\\'\\\'highly\\\'\\\' patronizing. If you don\\\'t mean to be patronizing, you should dial it back a bit, because it left me rather incensed.
Second, I disagree with a number of the examples listed on this page, despite my removal of only the Abrahamic examples. I removed those specifically for two reasons:
# The Hebrew Mythology page was cut.
# The Christian Mythology page is a redirect to the Useful Notes on Christianity.
Redirecting a \\\"Mythology\\\" page to a page that extensively and objectively covers a religion smacks of certain opinions held by the tropers who redirected it which [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement really ought to be avoided]].
Note, though, that I am aware of the academic definition of the term \\\"mythology.\\\" It\\\'s for those reasons that I\\\'m personally against the labeling of religions as mythologies, and yes, that includes so-called \\\"dead\\\" religions like those of the ancient Egyptians and Norse (and I\\\'m well aware there are revival religions for them).
Now, if \\\"mythology\\\" was used to describe stories \\\'\\\'related\\\'\\\' to a religion but not directed at the religion itself, that would have been fine. For example, the tale that garlic and onion sprung up in Satan\\\'s footsteps--that\\\'s something I would consider a Christian myth, because it\\\'s a tale that is related to Christianity yet isn\\\'t something you\\\'d find in TheBible itself, or in most Christian theological works.
I also take issue with your assertion that \\\"all literary traditions are just oral traditions before they were written down.\\\" The Bible has its foundations in written tradition as much as it does oral tradition (the original Torah started out with both written and oral components, with the oral Torah acting as annotations and commentary). The Christian Bible, in its current form, is largely a \\\'\\\'written\\\'\\\' tradition. It\\\'s misleading to slap the whole thing in this list and say that it all began purely as an oral tradition.
It\\\'s not just the Abrahamic list with which I have an issue, as I had mentioned in my edit reason. For example, KingArthur is almost certainly a \\\'\\\'literary\\\'\\\' tradition, because his persona as the literary character started with Geoffrey of Monmouth. It was seeing works like that included on this list which gave me reason to say that this list might need a sweep to remove any works that don\\\'t belong on this page.
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-->* HebrewMythology
-->** TheBible - which collects an edited version of many of the earlier oral traditions.
-->*** ChristianMythology
First of all, your edit reason\\\'s tone comes off as \\\'\\\'highly\\\'\\\' patronizing. If you don\\\'t mean to be patronizing, you should dial it back a bit, because it left me rather incensed.
Second, I disagree with a number of the examples listed on this page, despite my removal of only the Abrahamic examples. I removed those specifically for two reasons:
# The Hebrew Mythology page was cut.
# The Christian Mythology page is a redirect to the Useful Notes on Christianity.
Redirecting a \\\"Mythology\\\" page to a page that extensively and objectively covers a religion smacks of certain opinions held by the tropers who redirected it which [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement really ought to be avoided]].
Note, though, that I am aware of the academic definition of the term \\\"mythology.\\\" It\\\'s for those reasons that I\\\'m personally against the labeling of religions as mythologies, and yes, that includes so-called \\\"dead\\\" religions like those of the ancient Egyptians and Norse (and I\\\'m well aware there are revival religions for them).
Now, if \\\"mythology\\\" was used to describe stories \\\'\\\'related\\\'\\\' to a religion but not directed at the religion itself, that would have been fine. For example, the tale that garlic and onion sprung up in Satan\\\'s footsteps--that\\\'s something I would consider a Christian myth, because it\\\'s a tale that is related to Christianity yet isn\\\'t something you\\\'d find in TheBible itself, or in most Christian theological works.
I also take issue with your assertion that \\\"all literary traditions are just oral traditions before they were written down.\\\" The Bible has its foundations in written tradition as much as it does oral tradition (the original Torah started out with both written and oral components, with the oral Torah acting as annotations and commentary). The Christian Bible, in its current form, is largely a \\\'\\\'written\\\'\\\' tradition. It\\\'s misleading to slap the whole thing in this list and say that it all began purely as an oral tradition.
It\\\'s not just the Abrahamic list with which I have an issue, as I had mentioned in my edit reason. For example, KingArthur is almost certainly a \\\'\\\'literary\\\'\\\' tradition, because his persona as the literary character started with Geoffrey of Monmouth. It was seeing works like that included on this list which gave me reason to say that this list might need a sweep to remove any works that don\\\'t belong on this page.
