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Just because the Hakurei Barrier is said to be the \'\'so-called\'\' the \
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Just because the Hakurei Barrier is said to be the \\\'\\\'so-called\\\'\\\' the \\\"barrier of common sense\\\" doesn\\\'t mean that Gensokyo exists from the world\\\'s disbelief; it just keeps the world from easily interacting with what\\\'s inside the barrier--be it youkai or humans. I see it as no different from how Keine, in Imperishable Night, hid the human village from youkai by \\\"eating its history.\\\" Keine didn\\\'t actually \\\'\\\'eat\\\'\\\' the village; it was just a form of camouflage.
Yet, it seems like fans \\\'\\\'want\\\'\\\' it to mean that things can only live in Gensokyo if enough people believe it doesn\\\'t exist.
As for the people who either claim Gensokyo runs on disbelief or that its inhabitants can\\\'t survive outside it, here\\\'s some examples:
\\\'\\\'On this article\\\'\\\'
--> * AWizardDidIt: Pretty much the explanation for anything odd that happens. Gensokyo as a whole supposedly runs off the \\\'\\\'disbelief\\\'\\\' of the outside world so no level of weirdness is out of reach.
--> * TheMagicGoesAway: The reason Gensokyo was created in the first place.
\\\'\\\'In TheMagicGoesAway\\\'\\\'
--> * Gensokyo, the setting for \\\'\\\'{{Touhou}}\\\'\\\', is the land created because the magic went away when humans [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve lost faith in myths]] as science progressed. All the {{youkai}} that existed from myth left for Gensokyo so that they could continue to exist as the \\\"regular world\\\" forgot about magic and monsters. \\\'\\\'Touhou\\\'\\\' is notably more upbeat about the whole affair than most other examples, however, as the various {{Cute Monster Girl}}s are shown as perfectly happy with the arrangement.
\\\'\\\'In ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve\\\'\\\'
--> ** Furthermore, the setting of Touhou as a whole somewhat [[InvertedTrope inverts]] it: \\\'\\\'active disbelief\\\'\\\' in something in the outside world may cause it to appear in [[FantasyKitchenSink Gensokyo]]. For instance, in the manga \\\'\\\'Silent Sinner in Blue\\\'\\\', [[TheOneGuy Rinnosuke]] is able to easily acquire information on the moon landing, because enough people in the outside world have started to believe that it was faked; later on, [[CuteWitch Marisa]] comments that if a Gensokyo had oceans, it would have to be filled with sea monsters and krakkens and such. In another story, Rinnosuke deduces that the Cresded Ibis has become endangered or extinct in the outside world because of a sudden proliferation within Gensokyo.
\\\'\\\'In GodsNeedPrayerBadly\\\'\\\'
--> ** \\\'\\\'Touhou\\\'\\\' also has an inversion, as Gensokyo itself runs off of the \\\'\\\'disbelief\\\'\\\' of the outside world, being a repository for [[TheMagicGoesAway everything in which humans stopped believing]]. The actual gods[[hottip:*:or possibly just shrine gods, the specifics are unclear]] require more normal faith.
\\\'\\\'In FantasyKitchenSink\\\'\\\'
--> * The \\\'\\\'TouhouProject\\\'\\\' features Gensokyo, an almost \\\'\\\'literal\\\'\\\' FantasyKitchenSink. It\\\'s heavily implied that whatever becomes fantasy (magic, [[OurMonstersAreDifferent monsters]], [[OddJobGods gods]], near-extinct animals) is dumped there.
Like I said, I\\\'m gonna need more convincing evidence than someone telling me \\\"[[UnreliableNarrator Akyuu spelled it out]].\\\"
Yet, it seems like fans \\\'\\\'want\\\'\\\' it to mean that things can only live in Gensokyo if enough people believe it doesn\\\'t exist.
As for the people who either claim Gensokyo runs on disbelief or that its inhabitants can\\\'t survive outside it, here\\\'s some examples:
\\\'\\\'On this article\\\'\\\'
--> * AWizardDidIt: Pretty much the explanation for anything odd that happens. Gensokyo as a whole supposedly runs off the \\\'\\\'disbelief\\\'\\\' of the outside world so no level of weirdness is out of reach.
--> * TheMagicGoesAway: The reason Gensokyo was created in the first place.
\\\'\\\'In TheMagicGoesAway\\\'\\\'
--> * Gensokyo, the setting for \\\'\\\'{{Touhou}}\\\'\\\', is the land created because the magic went away when humans [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve lost faith in myths]] as science progressed. All the {{youkai}} that existed from myth left for Gensokyo so that they could continue to exist as the \\\"regular world\\\" forgot about magic and monsters. \\\'\\\'Touhou\\\'\\\' is notably more upbeat about the whole affair than most other examples, however, as the various {{Cute Monster Girl}}s are shown as perfectly happy with the arrangement.
\\\'\\\'In ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve\\\'\\\'
--> ** Furthermore, the setting of Touhou as a whole somewhat [[InvertedTrope inverts]] it: \\\'\\\'active disbelief\\\'\\\' in something in the outside world may cause it to appear in [[FantasyKitchenSink Gensokyo]]. For instance, in the manga \\\'\\\'Silent Sinner in Blue\\\'\\\', [[TheOneGuy Rinnosuke]] is able to easily acquire information on the moon landing, because enough people in the outside world have started to believe that it was faked; later on, [[CuteWitch Marisa]] comments that if a Gensokyo had oceans, it would have to be filled with sea monsters and krakkens and such. In another story, Rinnosuke deduces that the Cresded Ibis has become endangered or extinct in the outside world because of a sudden proliferation within Gensokyo.
\\\'\\\'In GodsNeedPrayerBadly\\\'\\\'
--> ** \\\'\\\'Touhou\\\'\\\' also has an inversion, as Gensokyo itself runs off of the \\\'\\\'disbelief\\\'\\\' of the outside world, being a repository for [[TheMagicGoesAway everything in which humans stopped believing]]. The actual gods[[hottip:*:or possibly just shrine gods, the specifics are unclear]] require more normal faith.
\\\'\\\'In FantasyKitchenSink\\\'\\\'
--> * The \\\'\\\'TouhouProject\\\'\\\' features Gensokyo, an almost \\\'\\\'literal\\\'\\\' FantasyKitchenSink. It\\\'s heavily implied that whatever becomes fantasy (magic, [[OurMonstersAreDifferent monsters]], [[OddJobGods gods]], near-extinct animals) is dumped there.
Like I said, I\\\'m gonna need more convincing evidence than someone telling me \\\"[[UnreliableNarrator Akyuu spelled it out]].\\\"
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Just because the Hakurei Barrier is said to be the \'\'so-called\'\' the \
to:
Just because the Hakurei Barrier is said to be the \\\'\\\'so-called\\\'\\\' the \\\"barrier of common sense\\\" doesn\\\'t mean that Gensokyo exists from the world\\\'s disbelief; it just keeps the world from easily interacting with what\\\'s inside the barrier--be it youkai or humans. I see it as no different from how Keine, in Imperishable Night, hid the human village from youkai by \\\"eating its history.\\\" Keine didn\\\'t actually \\\'\\\'eat\\\'\\\' the village; it was just a form of camouflage.
Yet, it seems like fans \\\'\\\'want\\\'\\\' it to mean that things can only live in Gensokyo if enough people believe it doesn\\\'t exist.
As for the people who either claim Gensokyo runs on disbelief or that its inhabitants can\\\'t survive outside it, here\\\'s some examples:
\\\'\\\'On this article\\\'\\\'
--> * AWizardDidIt: Pretty much the explanation for anything odd that happens. Gensokyo as a whole supposedly runs off the \\\'\\\'disbelief\\\'\\\' of the outside world so no level of weirdness is out of reach.
--> * TheMagicGoesAway: The reason Gensokyo was created in the first place.
\\\'\\\'In TheMagicGoesAway\\\'\\\'
--> * Gensokyo, the setting for \\\'\\\'{{Touhou}}\\\'\\\', is the land created because the magic went away when humans [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve lost faith in myths]] as science progressed. All the {{youkai}} that existed from myth left for Gensokyo so that they could continue to exist as the \\\"regular world\\\" forgot about magic and monsters. \\\'\\\'Touhou\\\'\\\' is notably more upbeat about the whole affair than most other examples, however, as the various {{Cute Monster Girl}}s are shown as perfectly happy with the arrangement.
\\\'\\\'In ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve\\\'\\\'
--> ** Furthermore, the setting of Touhou as a whole somewhat [[InvertedTrope inverts]] it: \\\'\\\'active disbelief\\\'\\\' in something in the outside world may cause it to appear in [[FantasyKitchenSink Gensokyo]]. For instance, in the manga \\\'\\\'Silent Sinner in Blue\\\'\\\', [[TheOneGuy Rinnosuke]] is able to easily acquire information on the moon landing, because enough people in the outside world have started to believe that it was faked; later on, [[CuteWitch Marisa]] comments that if a Gensokyo had oceans, it would have to be filled with sea monsters and krakkens and such. In another story, Rinnosuke deduces that the Cresded Ibis has become endangered or extinct in the outside world because of a sudden proliferation within Gensokyo.
\\\'\\\'In GodsNeedPrayerBadly\\\'\\\'
--> ** \\\'\\\'Touhou\\\'\\\' also has an inversion, as Gensokyo itself runs off of the \\\'\\\'disbelief\\\'\\\' of the outside world, being a repository for [[TheMagicGoesAway everything in which humans stopped believing]]. The actual gods[[hottip:*:or possibly just shrine gods, the specifics are unclear]] require more normal faith.
\\\'\\\'In FantasyKitchenSink\\\'\\\'
* The \\\'\\\'TouhouProject\\\'\\\' features Gensokyo, an almost \\\'\\\'literal\\\'\\\' FantasyKitchenSink. It\\\'s heavily implied that whatever becomes fantasy (magic, [[OurMonstersAreDifferent monsters]], [[OddJobGods gods]], near-extinct animals) is dumped there.
Like I said, I\\\'m gonna need more convincing evidence than someone telling me \\\"[[UnreliableNarrator Akyuu spelled it out]].\\\"
Yet, it seems like fans \\\'\\\'want\\\'\\\' it to mean that things can only live in Gensokyo if enough people believe it doesn\\\'t exist.
As for the people who either claim Gensokyo runs on disbelief or that its inhabitants can\\\'t survive outside it, here\\\'s some examples:
\\\'\\\'On this article\\\'\\\'
--> * AWizardDidIt: Pretty much the explanation for anything odd that happens. Gensokyo as a whole supposedly runs off the \\\'\\\'disbelief\\\'\\\' of the outside world so no level of weirdness is out of reach.
--> * TheMagicGoesAway: The reason Gensokyo was created in the first place.
\\\'\\\'In TheMagicGoesAway\\\'\\\'
--> * Gensokyo, the setting for \\\'\\\'{{Touhou}}\\\'\\\', is the land created because the magic went away when humans [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve lost faith in myths]] as science progressed. All the {{youkai}} that existed from myth left for Gensokyo so that they could continue to exist as the \\\"regular world\\\" forgot about magic and monsters. \\\'\\\'Touhou\\\'\\\' is notably more upbeat about the whole affair than most other examples, however, as the various {{Cute Monster Girl}}s are shown as perfectly happy with the arrangement.
\\\'\\\'In ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve\\\'\\\'
--> ** Furthermore, the setting of Touhou as a whole somewhat [[InvertedTrope inverts]] it: \\\'\\\'active disbelief\\\'\\\' in something in the outside world may cause it to appear in [[FantasyKitchenSink Gensokyo]]. For instance, in the manga \\\'\\\'Silent Sinner in Blue\\\'\\\', [[TheOneGuy Rinnosuke]] is able to easily acquire information on the moon landing, because enough people in the outside world have started to believe that it was faked; later on, [[CuteWitch Marisa]] comments that if a Gensokyo had oceans, it would have to be filled with sea monsters and krakkens and such. In another story, Rinnosuke deduces that the Cresded Ibis has become endangered or extinct in the outside world because of a sudden proliferation within Gensokyo.
\\\'\\\'In GodsNeedPrayerBadly\\\'\\\'
--> ** \\\'\\\'Touhou\\\'\\\' also has an inversion, as Gensokyo itself runs off of the \\\'\\\'disbelief\\\'\\\' of the outside world, being a repository for [[TheMagicGoesAway everything in which humans stopped believing]]. The actual gods[[hottip:*:or possibly just shrine gods, the specifics are unclear]] require more normal faith.
\\\'\\\'In FantasyKitchenSink\\\'\\\'
* The \\\'\\\'TouhouProject\\\'\\\' features Gensokyo, an almost \\\'\\\'literal\\\'\\\' FantasyKitchenSink. It\\\'s heavily implied that whatever becomes fantasy (magic, [[OurMonstersAreDifferent monsters]], [[OddJobGods gods]], near-extinct animals) is dumped there.
Like I said, I\\\'m gonna need more convincing evidence than someone telling me \\\"[[UnreliableNarrator Akyuu spelled it out]].\\\"
