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I\'ll recheck the threatening part, as it is a bit fuzzy exactly what she threatened him with, but she has done thoroughly horrible, and decidedly uncharacteristic, things to some of her CompleteMonster opponents. Although it could of course be argued that she didn\'t have a choice, I\'m still uncomfortable with a former Superman level force for good suddenly inflicting extreme everlasting torture on adversaries.
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I\\\'ll recheck the threatening part, as it is a bit fuzzy exactly what she threatened him with, but she has done thoroughly horrible, and decidedly uncharacteristic, things to some of her CompleteMonster opponents. Although it could of course be argued that she didn\\\'t have a choice, I\\\'m still uncomfortable with a former Superman level force for good suddenly inflicting extreme everlasting torture on adversaries, \\\'\\\'while making a speech about it\\\'\\\'.
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I automatically tend to pattern the personality and intent of the writer from the tone, ShoutOut messages, and thematic connections of any story, and that one screamed standard PayEvilUntoEvil (especially if it\'s AcceptableHardLuckTargets) fanfiction/\
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I automatically tend to pattern the personality and intent of the writer from the tone, ShoutOut messages, and thematic connections of any story, and that one screamed standard PayEvilUntoEvil (especially if it\\\'s AcceptableHardLuckTargets) fanfiction/\\\"Sue\\\" power-trip to me. In fact I used exactly this type of side-character in my old anti-fanfiction story to get rid of the sum impression.
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I\'ll recheck the threatening part, as it is a bit fuzzy exactly what she threatened him with, but she has done thoroughly horrible, and decidedly uncharacteristic, things to some of her CompleteMOnster opponents. Although it could of course be argued that she didn\'t have a choice, I\'m still uncomfortable with a former Superman level force for good suddenly inflicting extreme torture on adversaries.
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I\\\'ll recheck the threatening part, as it is a bit fuzzy exactly what she threatened him with, but she has done thoroughly horrible, and decidedly uncharacteristic, things to some of her CompleteMonster opponents. Although it could of course be argued that she didn\\\'t have a choice, I\\\'m still uncomfortable with a former Superman level force for good suddenly inflicting extreme everlasting torture on adversaries.
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I automatically tend to pattern the personality and intent of the writer from the tone, ShoutOut messages, and thematic connections of any story, and that one screamed standard PayEvilUntoEvil (especially if it\'s AcceptableHardLuckTargets) fanfiction/\
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I automatically tend to pattern the personality and intent of the writer from the tone, ShoutOut messages, and thematic connections of any story, and that one screamed standard PayEvilUntoEvil (especially if it\\\'s AcceptableHardLuckTargets) fanfiction/\\\"Sue\\\" power-trip to me. In fact I used exactly this type of side-character in my old anti-fanfiction story to get rid of the sum impression.
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The specific Zatanna story that made an impression on me however, was a short one about two strange [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets drug-addict]] [[JerkAss assholes]] who for some reason thought that it was fun to spike some kid\'s birthday cake. Zatanna was there to entertain them, and captured the drug-addicts for the police. All well and good... however, then she goes \'\'\'beyond the justice system\'\'\' [[DisproportionateRetribution to make them see nightmare visions for every conscious moment of the rest of their lives]]... Wouldn\'t it be better to, say, rather focus on undoing the damage to the frightened kids? She does have the power to do it after all. I automatically tend to pattern the personality and intent of the writer from the tone of any story, and that one screamed standard PayEvilUntoEvil fanfiction/\
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The specific Zatanna story that made an impression on me however, was a short one about two strange drug-addict [[JerkAss assholes]] who for some reason thought that it was fun to spike some kid\\\'s birthday cake. Zatanna was there to entertain them, and captured the drug-addicts for the police. All well and good... however, then she goes \\\'\\\'\\\'beyond the justice system\\\'\\\'\\\' [[DisproportionateRetribution to make them see nightmare visions for every conscious moment of the rest of their lives]]... Wouldn\\\'t it be better to, say, rather focus on undoing the damage to the frightened kids? She does have the power to do it after all.

I automatically tend to pattern the personality and intent of the writer from the tone, ShoutOut messages, and thematic connections of any story, and that one screamed standard PayEvilUntoEvil (especially if it\\\'s AcceptableHardLuckTargets) fanfiction/\\\"Sue\\\" power-trip to me. In fact I used exactly this type of side-character in my old anti-fanfiction story to get rid of the sum impression.
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As for IdentityCrisis, in itself that\'s not so bad, as she was shown as very reluctant and pressured into it, but later I remember Dini had her state that she didn\'t consider it a big deal (or maybe it was Johnns in JLA during the Infinite Crisis tie-in? Oh well, either that or one of Dini\'s Catwoman stories), and I\'d agree with her if it was just about erasing specific memories, but \'\'lobotomy\'\', on somebody who was already inprisoned? No. That\'s more Marvel\'s brand of bloodthirsty vigilantism, not DC\'s kindness and idealism. The specific story that made an impression on me however, was about two strange drug-addicts [[JerkAss assholes]] who for some reason thought that it was fun to spike some kid\'s birthday cake. Zatanna was there to entertain them, and captured the drug-addicts for the police. All well and good... however, then she goes \'\'\'beyond the justice system\'\'\' [[DisproportionateRetribution to make them see nightmare visions for every conscious moment of the rest of their lives]]... Wouldn\'t it be better to, say, rather focus on undoing the damage to the frightened kids? She does have the power to do it after all.
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As for IdentityCrisis, in itself that\\\'s not so bad, as she was shown as very reluctant and pressured into it, but later I remember Dini had her state that she didn\\\'t consider it a big deal (or maybe it was Johnns in JLA during the Infinite Crisis tie-in? Oh well, either that or one of Dini\\\'s Catwoman stories), and I\\\'d agree with her if it was just about erasing specific memories, but \\\'\\\'lobotomy\\\'\\\', on somebody who was already inprisoned? No. That\\\'s more Marvel\\\'s brand of bloodthirsty vigilantism, not DC\\\'s kindness and idealism.

The specific Zatanna story that made an impression on me however, was a short one about two strange [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets drug-addict]] [[JerkAss assholes]] who for some reason thought that it was fun to spike some kid\\\'s birthday cake. Zatanna was there to entertain them, and captured the drug-addicts for the police. All well and good... however, then she goes \\\'\\\'\\\'beyond the justice system\\\'\\\'\\\' [[DisproportionateRetribution to make them see nightmare visions for every conscious moment of the rest of their lives]]... Wouldn\\\'t it be better to, say, rather focus on undoing the damage to the frightened kids? She does have the power to do it after all. I automatically tend to pattern the personality and intent of the writer from the tone of any story, and that one screamed standard PayEvilUntoEvil fanfiction/\\\"Sue\\\" power-trip to me. In fact I used exactly this type of side-character in my old anti-fanfiction story.
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As for IC, that\'s not so bad, as she was shown as very reluctant and pressured into it, but later I remember Dini had her state that she didn\'t consider it a big deal (or maybe it was Johnns in JLA during the Infinite Crisis tie-in? Oh well, either that or one of Dini\'s Catwoman stories), and I\'d agree with her if it was just about erasing specific memories, but \'\'lobotomy\'\', on somebody who was already inprisoned? No. That\'s more Marvel\'s brand of bloodthirsty vigilantism, not DC\'s kindness and idealism.
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As for IdentityCrisis, in itself that\\\'s not so bad, as she was shown as very reluctant and pressured into it, but later I remember Dini had her state that she didn\\\'t consider it a big deal (or maybe it was Johnns in JLA during the Infinite Crisis tie-in? Oh well, either that or one of Dini\\\'s Catwoman stories), and I\\\'d agree with her if it was just about erasing specific memories, but \\\'\\\'lobotomy\\\'\\\', on somebody who was already inprisoned? No. That\\\'s more Marvel\\\'s brand of bloodthirsty vigilantism, not DC\\\'s kindness and idealism. The specific story that made an impression on me however, was about two strange drug-addicts [[JerkAss assholes]] who for some reason thought that it was fun to spike some kid\\\'s birthday cake. Zatanna was there to entertain them, and captured the drug-addicts for the police. All well and good... however, then she goes \\\'\\\'\\\'beyond the justice system\\\'\\\'\\\' [[DisproportionateRetribution to make them see nightmare visions for every conscious moment of the rest of their lives]]... Wouldn\\\'t it be better to, say, rather focus on undoing the damage to the frightened kids? She does have the power to do it after all.
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As for IC, that\'s not so bad, as she was shown as very reluctant and pressured into it, but later I remember Dini had her state that she didn\'t consider it a big deal (or maybe it was Johnns in JLA?), and I\'d agree with her if it was just about erasing specific memories, but \'\'lobotomy\'\', on somebody who was already inprisoned? No. That\'s more Marvel\'s brand of bloodthirsty vigilantism, not DC\'s kindness and idealism.
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As for IC, that\\\'s not so bad, as she was shown as very reluctant and pressured into it, but later I remember Dini had her state that she didn\\\'t consider it a big deal (or maybe it was Johnns in JLA during the Infinite Crisis tie-in? Oh well, either that or one of Dini\\\'s Catwoman stories), and I\\\'d agree with her if it was just about erasing specific memories, but \\\'\\\'lobotomy\\\'\\\', on somebody who was already inprisoned? No. That\\\'s more Marvel\\\'s brand of bloodthirsty vigilantism, not DC\\\'s kindness and idealism.
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