Follow TV Tropes

Following

Discussion History VideoGame / ValkyriaChronicles

Go To

[002] ccoa MOD Current Version
Changed line(s) 4 from:
n
** Considering the position of the map, the scenery of the country, the way the military staff is shown, the history of antagonism with the very germanic \
to:
** Considering the position of the map, the scenery of the country, the way the military staff is shown, the history of antagonism with the very germanic \\\"Eastern Empire\\\" and, even more obviously, the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaul name]], it\\\'s pretty obvious that Gallia is a slightly modified {{Expy}} of France or Belgium.
*** Then again, the Gunther family nanny\\\'s surname is Lipponen, a very common Finnish, and only Finnish, surname.
** Finland was allied to Axis in WW II, so it doesn\\\'t fit. More importantly, [[spoiler: the Federation doesn\\\'t seem to be particularly better than the Empire, and the Gallian military, save for Squad 7, is inept.]]
** Nobody thinks Jaeger might be from \\\"Finland\\\"? Few things, at time of Finland independence, there was something called \\\"jääkäriliike\\\", \\\"jaeger-movement\\\" finnish men volunteering to be sent to Germany for combat trainin, to aid against Russia, should the need arise, he\\\'s from a small kingdom conquered by the Empire, (I quess they invaded during summer...), the way he describes his homeland in the anime is spot on, and the country\\\'s name is... Fhirald. Close enough. (He also looks a bit like Dr. House, and drives a tank named Lupus. But that\\\'s besides the point.)
*** For Helsinki, Germany was an alliance of pretty much the last resort, after Western Allied access through Norway was cut and the Soviets reinvaded (thus forcing the Western Allies to support the Soviets indirectly). It is telling that the very first powers to react to the invasion and condemn it were... Britain, France, the US, and (strangely) Hungary. In addition, [[spoiler: the Federation is guilty of kidnapping a strategically important leader (the Princess) and playing games with Von Borg, something that is rather understandable considering Gallia\\\'s almost-fanatical stance on \\\"independence\\\", which means at times when the Empire isn\\\'t invading them they are effectively selling the Empire the bullets they will shoot them and the Federation with by exporting ragnite. Compared to the Empire\\\'s chronic war crimes sprees, this is pathetically minor. If anything, it makes them a more faithful expy of the Western Allies/NATO because the above inspirations were IRL THE crowning examples of GoodIsNotNice.]]
** Europa War I is referred to as being kicked off by the assassination of a royal prince, which is awfully similar to Archduke Ferdinand\\\'s situation.
** One of your shocktroopers is an older man with a mustache and a blue bandanna, and you receive special military commands from a well-dressed Aged Gentleman in a cemetary. [[MetalGearSolid The resemblance is there.]]
** There\\\'s also the matter of [[SkiesOfArcadia Shocktrooper Vyse Inglebard and Scout Aika Thompson.]] Although this is more of a AlternateUniverse {{cameo}} than an expy. Interestingly, Vyse is also in the {{anime}}, and Fina is the medic in the {{manga}}.
** Selvaria: If the Nazis had built KOS-MOS...
*** Subject of her own WMG mind... her and Reinforce I... ha!
** Gilbert Gassenarl, the leader of the GRA in Valkyria Chronicles 2 is Hitler...with Cool Sunglasses!
** The Gassenarl family is actually [[{{Gundam}} the Zabi Family]], except one of them is a mech!

Because 1) {{Expy}} applies only to characters, 2) cameos are not expies, 3) you cannot have an {{Expy}} of a real character, and 4) the rest seem to be speculation.

There might be a trope for the mirroring history bits, though, so I brought them here.

Also removed:

* MostCommonSuperpower: Surprisingly \\\'\\\'avoided\\\'\\\' for the huge majority of the female cast; with a very small number of exceptions, the women of Squad 7 don\\\'t really go above a B cup seemingly, and the non-flattering uniforms only help avoid this even further. Selvaria, however, does possess prominent BoobsOfSteel, [[EvilIsSexy for fairly obvious design reasons]].

Since MostCommonSuperpower can only apply to \\\'\\\'superheroes\\\'\\\'.

And:

* NiceHat:
** Welkin\\\'s little cap thing is really stupid looking. Faldio is apparently supposed to wear it also, but he later [[LampshadeHanging complains that he thinks the hats look stupid]]. What\\\'s truly amazing is that it always stays firmly planted on his head despite not appearing to be made to do this.
** Everyone thinks Wendy keeps a bomb under hers...
** Princess Cordelia has a ridiculous looking hat on for most of the game. [[spoiler:Later, it is revealed that the hat was for her to conceal that she was a Darcsen]]. Though that doesn\\\'t change the ridiculousness of the hat.
*** Keep in mind, given that revelation, that means \\\'\\\'every\\\'\\\' member of the Gallian royalty has always worn the NiceHat; and never taken it off in public. \\\'\\\'Ever.\\\'\\\'
** Alicia, sweetheart, \\\'\\\'no.\\\'\\\' I know, I know. That red handerchief represents your past as a baker that you want to go back to; and it\\\'s color scheme goes along really well with your [[spoiler: later glowing red eyes]] But a splot of red on your \\\'\\\'head\\\'\\\' in a battlefield where your side wears all \\\'\\\'blue?\\\'\\\' You\\\'re asking; nay; \\\'\\\'begging\\\'\\\' for a headshot.

NiceHat is for hats that look \\\'\\\'good\\\'\\\' or \\\'\\\'cool\\\'\\\'. Not stupid.

And:

* StuffedIntoTheFridge: fanfiction writers seem to like killing Nancy Dufour in very gruesome and twisted ways.

This isn\\\'t a trope that applies to this work. Stick it on the individual fanfiction pages.

Changed line(s) 4 from:
n
** Considering the position of the map, the scenery of the country, the way the military staff is shown, the history of antagonism with the very germanic \
to:
** Considering the position of the map, the scenery of the country, the way the military staff is shown, the history of antagonism with the very germanic \\\"Eastern Empire\\\" and, even more obviously, the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaul name]], it\\\'s pretty obvious that Gallia is a slightly modified {{Expy}} of France or Belgium.
*** Then again, the Gunther family nanny\\\'s surname is Lipponen, a very common Finnish, and only Finnish, surname.
** Finland was allied to Axis in WW II, so it doesn\\\'t fit. More importantly, [[spoiler: the Federation doesn\\\'t seem to be particularly better than the Empire, and the Gallian military, save for Squad 7, is inept.]]
** Nobody thinks Jaeger might be from \\\"Finland\\\"? Few things, at time of Finland independence, there was something called \\\"jääkäriliike\\\", \\\"jaeger-movement\\\" finnish men volunteering to be sent to Germany for combat trainin, to aid against Russia, should the need arise, he\\\'s from a small kingdom conquered by the Empire, (I quess they invaded during summer...), the way he describes his homeland in the anime is spot on, and the country\\\'s name is... Fhirald. Close enough. (He also looks a bit like Dr. House, and drives a tank named Lupus. But that\\\'s besides the point.)
*** For Helsinki, Germany was an alliance of pretty much the last resort, after Western Allied access through Norway was cut and the Soviets reinvaded (thus forcing the Western Allies to support the Soviets indirectly). It is telling that the very first powers to react to the invasion and condemn it were... Britain, France, the US, and (strangely) Hungary. In addition, [[spoiler: the Federation is guilty of kidnapping a strategically important leader (the Princess) and playing games with Von Borg, something that is rather understandable considering Gallia\\\'s almost-fanatical stance on \\\"independence\\\", which means at times when the Empire isn\\\'t invading them they are effectively selling the Empire the bullets they will shoot them and the Federation with by exporting ragnite. Compared to the Empire\\\'s chronic war crimes sprees, this is pathetically minor. If anything, it makes them a more faithful expy of the Western Allies/NATO because the above inspirations were IRL THE crowning examples of GoodIsNotNice.]]
** Europa War I is referred to as being kicked off by the assassination of a royal prince, which is awfully similar to Archduke Ferdinand\\\'s situation.
** One of your shocktroopers is an older man with a mustache and a blue bandanna, and you receive special military commands from a well-dressed Aged Gentleman in a cemetary. [[MetalGearSolid The resemblance is there.]]
** There\\\'s also the matter of [[SkiesOfArcadia Shocktrooper Vyse Inglebard and Scout Aika Thompson.]] Although this is more of a AlternateUniverse {{cameo}} than an expy. Interestingly, Vyse is also in the {{anime}}, and Fina is the medic in the {{manga}}.
** Selvaria: If the Nazis had built KOS-MOS...
*** Subject of her own WMG mind... her and Reinforce I... ha!
** Gilbert Gassenarl, the leader of the GRA in Valkyria Chronicles 2 is Hitler...with Cool Sunglasses!
** The Gassenarl family is actually [[{{Gundam}} the Zabi Family]], except one of them is a mech!

Because 1) {{Expy}} applies only to characters, 2) cameos are not expies, 3) you cannot have an {{Expy}} of a real character, and 4) the rest seem to be speculation.

There might be a trope for the mirroring history bits, though, so I brought them here.

Also removed:

* MostCommonSuperpower: Surprisingly \\\'\\\'avoided\\\'\\\' for the huge majority of the female cast; with a very small number of exceptions, the women of Squad 7 don\\\'t really go above a B cup seemingly, and the non-flattering uniforms only help avoid this even further. Selvaria, however, does possess prominent BoobsOfSteel, [[EvilIsSexy for fairly obvious design reasons]].

Since MostCommonSuperpower can only apply to \\\'\\\'superheroes\\\'\\\'.
Top