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I find it amusing that you accuse me of having a [=Nano/Fate=] bias but you didn\'t bother to remove the numerous statements about [=Nano/Fate=] being subject to extensive FanDumb (Which, by the way, are there because I put them there). Your intentions are obvious: in the name of \
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I find it amusing that you accuse me of having a [=Nano/Fate=] bias but you didn\\\'t bother to remove the numerous statements about [=Nano/Fate=] being subject to extensive FanDumb (Which, by the way, are there because I put them there). Your intentions are obvious: in the name of \\\"eliminating bias\\\" you remove statements that place Yuunoha in a negative light while ignoring statements that do the same for [=Nano/Fate=]. It is \\\'\\\'you\\\'\\\' who is biased in favor of Yuunoha, not I in favor of [=Nano/Fate=]. On the contrary, my official stance on Nanoha shipping wars is to point and laugh at the idiots on both sides. Regardless of the state of Nanoha\\\'s love life or lack thereof however, there are two statements you\\\'ve repeatedly edited out which are indisputably canon.
First, Yuuno has been PutOnABus so thoroughly that he has not even been \\\'\\\'mentioned\\\'\\\' since SSX, not even in Vivio\\\'s list of the important people in her life; Lutecia and Carim are on that list, but Yuuno isn\\\'t for some reason. If Yuuno had a place in Nanoha\\\'s life, you\\\'d think he would also have one in Vivio\\\'s life. The fact that he isn\\\'t mentioned means either that Yuuno \\\'\\\'doesn\\\'t\\\'\\\' have a significant place in Nanoha\\\'s life or that he is but it\\\'s being kept secret from Vivio for some reason. This is the reasoning behind \\\"[=ViVid=] sank Yuunoha\\\", and so far as I can see the logic holds up under scrutiny.
Second is the deletion of multiple references to \\\"the Takamachi family\\\". This is canon, plain and simple. Vivio has two mamas, Nanoha and Fate have traditional mom and dad roles, etc etc, you\\\'ve heard these arguments before. This is all supported by canon. What \\\'\\\'isn\\\'t\\\'\\\' supported by canon is an explicit statement that \\\"yes, they are in a romantic relationship together\\\". However that\\\'s another story entirely, you don\\\'t have to have a romantic relationship to have a family dynamic between the characters (see some examples of {{Nakama}} for instance, especially the ones that have a TeamMom. Depending on how you look at them, Hayate and the Wolkenritter qualify for this sort of relationship). Therefore, the Nanoha/Fate/Vivio family unit is 100% canon, regardless of whether Nano/Fate is canon or not.
[[SeriousBusiness ...dammit]], [[GotMeDoingIt now you\\\'ve got me doing it]].
First, Yuuno has been PutOnABus so thoroughly that he has not even been \\\'\\\'mentioned\\\'\\\' since SSX, not even in Vivio\\\'s list of the important people in her life; Lutecia and Carim are on that list, but Yuuno isn\\\'t for some reason. If Yuuno had a place in Nanoha\\\'s life, you\\\'d think he would also have one in Vivio\\\'s life. The fact that he isn\\\'t mentioned means either that Yuuno \\\'\\\'doesn\\\'t\\\'\\\' have a significant place in Nanoha\\\'s life or that he is but it\\\'s being kept secret from Vivio for some reason. This is the reasoning behind \\\"[=ViVid=] sank Yuunoha\\\", and so far as I can see the logic holds up under scrutiny.
Second is the deletion of multiple references to \\\"the Takamachi family\\\". This is canon, plain and simple. Vivio has two mamas, Nanoha and Fate have traditional mom and dad roles, etc etc, you\\\'ve heard these arguments before. This is all supported by canon. What \\\'\\\'isn\\\'t\\\'\\\' supported by canon is an explicit statement that \\\"yes, they are in a romantic relationship together\\\". However that\\\'s another story entirely, you don\\\'t have to have a romantic relationship to have a family dynamic between the characters (see some examples of {{Nakama}} for instance, especially the ones that have a TeamMom. Depending on how you look at them, Hayate and the Wolkenritter qualify for this sort of relationship). Therefore, the Nanoha/Fate/Vivio family unit is 100% canon, regardless of whether Nano/Fate is canon or not.
[[SeriousBusiness ...dammit]], [[GotMeDoingIt now you\\\'ve got me doing it]].
