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I\'ve continuously been working on not taking things seriously over the years. It\'s necessary for survival given the virtual lack of impression filters, and I have managed to widen my sense of humour. However, it\'s never been quite that simple. I am strongly literal-minded, as another part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on not taking things seriously over the years. It\\\'s necessary for survival given the virtual lack of impression filters, and I have managed to widen my sense of humour. However, it\\\'s never been quite that simple. I am strongly literal-minded, as another part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as thoroughly twisted around and filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred or cruelty towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause efficient propaganda of every principle BenitoMussolini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, [[MoralDissonance regardless of double-standards that it is only bad if done towards indivíduals...]] [[MoralMyopia that happen to be of the same media-oriented variety as the person informing us that this is much worse than anything, ever...]]

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laughs. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly the line is drawn... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impressions from the final product do not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from \\\"300\\\" through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but the impression still honestly did come across in the manner that I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest.

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, as the in the context morbidly upbeat stories incorporating casual self-righteous torture and bigotry ( Day order: 1) Eat Breakfast 2) Kick a screaming refugee-camp survivor down into an eternal torture pit with a snappy quote. 3) Family picknick! ) can read as even more disturbing, although that is certainly part of it.

Or to put it in a more visual/striking/concise/generalising manner, per definition I\\\'m basically at the \\\'\\\'opposite\\\'\\\' end of the spectrum in relation to extreme level psychopaths, whereas a regular person is in the middle. Now, do you remember the aliens in GalaxyQuest that thought the \\\"Star Trek\\\" parody was real? They basically read as a parody of autistic people played for laughs in an uncommonly non-meanspirited/rather amusing and inoffensive manner. With me so far? Ok, now imagine being one of them stuck in a world that relative to your own position at the spectrum seems filled to the brim with hardcore psychopaths who produce constant intense hate-propaganda that consistently assumes or expects you to react the same way they would during considerably less extreme circumstances (as a raging calculated conscience-deprived casual lashout massmurderer, torturer and serial-rapist), even though it takes enormously higher amounts of torture to turn you nearly as inherently cruel and ruthless as themselves, while constantly overloading your mind trying to make sense of the way their society and culture works... Yeah... that\\\'s actually literally not a very far off picture.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on not taking things seriously over the years. It\'s necessary for survival given the virtual lack of impression filters, and I have managed to widen my sense of humour. However, it\'s never been quite that simple. I am strongly literal-minded, as another part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on not taking things seriously over the years. It\\\'s necessary for survival given the virtual lack of impression filters, and I have managed to widen my sense of humour. However, it\\\'s never been quite that simple. I am strongly literal-minded, as another part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as thoroughly twisted around and filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred or cruelty towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause efficient propaganda of every principle BenitoMussolini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, [[MoralDissonance regardless of double-standards that it is only bad if done towards indivíduals...]] [[MoralMyopia that happen to be of the same media-oriented variety as the person informing us that this is much worse than anything, ever...]]

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laughs. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly the line is drawn... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impressions from the final product do not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from \\\"300\\\" through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but the impression still honestly did come across in the manner that I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest.

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, as the in the context morbidly upbeat stories incorporating casual self-righteous torture and bigotry ( Day order: 1) Eat Breakfast 2) Kick a screaming refugee-camp survivor down into an eternal torture pit with a snappy quote. 3) Family picknick! ) can read as even more disturbing, although that is certainly part of it.

Or to put it in a more visual/striking/concise/generalising manner, per definition I\\\'m basically at the \\\'\\\'opposite\\\'\\\' end of the spectrum in relation to extreme level psychopaths, whereas a regular person is in the middle. Remember the aliens in GalaxyQuest that thought the \\\"Star Trek\\\" parody was real? They basically read as a parody of autistic people played for laughs in an uncommonly non-meanspirited/rather amusing and inoffensive manner. Now imagine being one of them stuck in a world that relative to your own position at the spectrum seems filled to the brim with hardcore psychopaths who produce constant intense hate-propaganda that consistently assumes or expects you to react the same way they would during considerably less extreme circumstances (as a raging calculated conscience-deprived casual lashout massmurderer, torturer and serial-rapist), even though it takes enormously higher amounts of torture to turn you nearly as inherently cruel and ruthless as themselves, while constantly overloading your mind trying to make sense of the way their society and culture works... Yeah... that\\\'s actually literally not a very far off picture.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on not taking things seriously over the years. It\'s necessary for survival given the virtual lack of impression filters, and I have managed to widen my sense of humour. However, it\'s never been quite that simple. I am strongly literal-minded, as another part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on not taking things seriously over the years. It\\\'s necessary for survival given the virtual lack of impression filters, and I have managed to widen my sense of humour. However, it\\\'s never been quite that simple. I am strongly literal-minded, as another part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as thoroughly twisted around and filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred or cruelty towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause efficient propaganda of every principle BenitoMussolini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, [[MoralDissonance regardless of double-standards that it is only bad if done towards indivíduals...]] [[MoralMyopia that happen to be of the same media-oriented variety as the person informing us that this is much worse than anything, ever...]]

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laughs. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly the line is drawn... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impressions from the final product do not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from \\\"300\\\" through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but the impression still honestly did come across in the manner that I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest.

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, as the in the context morbidly upbeat stories incorporating casual self-righteous torture and bigotry ( Day order: 1) Eat Breakfast 2) Kick a screaming refugee-camp survivor down into an eternal torture pit with a snappy quote. 3) Family picknick! ) can read as even more disturbing, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on not taking things seriously over the years. It\'s necessary for survival given the virtual lack of impression filters, and I have managed to widen my sense of humour. However, it\'s never been quite that simple. I am strongly literal-minded, as another part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on not taking things seriously over the years. It\\\'s necessary for survival given the virtual lack of impression filters, and I have managed to widen my sense of humour. However, it\\\'s never been quite that simple. I am strongly literal-minded, as another part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as thoroughly twisted around and filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred or cruelty towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause efficient propaganda of every principle BenitoMussolini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, [[MoralDissonance regardless of double-standards that it is only bad if done towards indivíduals...]] [[MoralMyopia that happen to be of the same media-oriented variety as the person informing us that this is much worse than anything, ever...]]

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laughs. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly the line is drawn... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from \\\"300\\\" through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest.

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, as the in the context morbidly upbeat stories incorporating casual self-righteous torture and bigotry ( 1) Eat Breakfast 2) Kick a screaming refugee-camp survivor down into an eternal torture pit with a snappy quote. 3) Family picknick ) can read as even more disturbing, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on not taking things seriously over the years. It\\\'s necessary for survival given the virtual lack of impression filters, and I have managed to widen my sense of humour. However, it\\\'s never been quite that simple. I am strongly literal-minded, as another part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as thoroughly twisted around and filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred or cruelty towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause efficient propaganda of every principle BenitoMussolini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, [[MoralDissonance regardless of double-standards that it is only bad if done towards indivíduals...]] [[MoralMyopia that happen to be of the same media-oriented variety as the person informing us that this is much worse than anything, ever...]]

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest.

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, as the in the context morbidly upbeat stories incorporating casual self-righteous torture and bigotry ( 1) Eat Breakfast 2) Kick a screaming refugee-camp survivor down into an eternal torture pit with a snappy quote. 3) Family picknick ) can read as even more disturbing, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on not taking things seriously over the years. It\\\'s necessary for survival given the virtual lack of impression filters. However, it\\\'s never been quite that simple. I am strongly literal-minded, as another part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves remotely seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred or cruelty towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause efficient propaganda of every principle BenitoMussolini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, [[MoralDissonance regardless of double-standards that it is only bad if done towards indivíduals...]] [[MoralMyopia that happen to be of the same media-oriented variety as the person informing us that this is much worse than anything, ever...]]

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest.

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, as the in the context morbidly upbeat stories incorporating casual self-righteous torture and bigotry ( 1) Eat Breakfast 2) Kick a screaming refugee-camp survivor down into an eternal torture pit with a snappy quote. 3) Family picknick ) can read as even more disturbing, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\\\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred or cruelty towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause efficient propaganda of every principle BenitoMussolini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, [[MoralDissonance regardless of double-standards that it is only bad if done towards indivíduals...]] [[MoralMyopia that happen to be of the same media-oriented variety as the person informing us that this is much worse than anything, ever...]]

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest.

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, as the in the context morbidly upbeat stories incorporating casual self-righteous torture and bigotry ( 1) Eat Breakfast 2) Kick a screaming refugee-camp survivor down into an eternal torture pit with a snappy quote. 3) Family picknick ) can read as even more disturbing, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\\\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred or cruelty towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause efficient propaganda of every principle BenitoMussolini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, regardless of double-standards that it is only bad if done towards indivíduals... that happen to be of the same media-oriented variety as the person informing us that this is much worse than anything, ever... [[MoralMyopia but if it\\\'s simply crypto-genocide propaganda made by said media person then that\\\'s okay]].

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest.

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, as the in the context morbidly upbeat stories incorporating casual self-righteous torture and bigotry ( 1) Eat Breakfast 2) Kick a screaming refugee-camp survivor down into an eternal torture pit with a snappy quote. 3) Family picknick ) can read as even more disturbing, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\\\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred or cruelty towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause efficient propaganda of every principle BenitoMussolini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, regardless of double-standards that it is only bad if done towards indivíduals... that happen to be of the same media-oriented variety as the person informing us that this is much worse than anything, ever.

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, as the in the context morbidly upbeat stories incorporating casual self-righteous torture and bigotry ( 1) Eat Breakfast 2) Kick a screaming refugee-camp survivor down into an eternal torture pit with a snappy quote. 3) Family picknick ) can read as even more disturbing, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\\\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred or cruelty towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause propaganda of every principle Musslini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, regardless of double-standards.

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, as the in the context morbidly upbeat stories incorporating casual self-righteous torture and bigotry ( 1) Eat Breakfast 2) Kick a screaming refugee-camp survivor down into an eternal torture pit with a snappy quote. 3) Family picknick ) can read as even more disturbing, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
to:
I\\\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\\\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred or cruelty towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause propaganda of every principle Musslini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, regardless of double-standards.

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
to:
I\\\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\\\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred or cruelty towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause propaganda of every principle Musslini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, regardless of double-standards.

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\\\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred towards anyone (my problem doesn\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause propaganda of every principle Musslini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, regardless of double-standards.

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\\\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred towards anyone (my problem doens\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause propaganda of every principle Musslini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, regardless of double-standards.

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". It was actually quite creative, and worked as an excellent satire of mechanically constructed modern pop-culture conveniences whether you intended it or not. If it actually was shite then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\\\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred towards anyone (my problem doens\\\'t lie with people, but with destructive ideologies as memetic infections), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause propaganda of every principle Musslini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, regardless of double-standards.

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". If it was then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
Changed line(s) 1 from:
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I\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
to:
I\\\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\\\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred towards anyone (my problem doens\\\'t lie with people, but with ideologies), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause propaganda of every principle Musslini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, regardless of double-standards.

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? As far as I know there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". If it was then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\\\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred towards anyone (my problem doens\\\'t lie with people, but with ideologies), so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I\\\'ve never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of keyword bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way (in fact I find several of them relieving, and don\\\'t at all get why anyone had a problem with the Down Syndrome episode... the more seriously played \\\"justified\\\" bullying of Meg on the other hand, that I have a problem with), and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause propaganda of every principle Musslini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, regardless of double-standards.

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? AfaIk there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". If it was then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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I\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \
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I\\\'ve continuously been working on it over the years, but it\\\'s never been that simple. Among plenty of other things I have virtually no filters whatsoever and am strongly literal-minded, as a part of the whole autism deal (no not remotely the \\\"barely maybe sort-of qualifies\\\" arguable light Asperger variants) yes, but I don\\\'t take non-serious mangas, such as One Piece, Fairy Tail, Ranma, or othervise themselves seriously, and in fact that\\\'s the reason why I like and find them relaxing. What gradually started to get to me was noticing the way so many readers reacted to them, as many stories read as filled to the brim with pure and intense conceited hatred.

I\\\'m a reactive sort by nature, and have extremely limited self-driven hatred, so the only way for media to get an actual rise out of me is to tell me in-depth over and over how feverishly someone else hates me on principle at an existential, genocidal, or \\\"the more pain you cause the more justified you get to cause even more\\\" \\\"moment 22\\\" torture-fetischism absolute level for whatever reason, despite that I never hurt a fly outside of self-defence. However, I literally get bombarded by that sort of attitude in most media to a degree that by far overshadows the sillier foci of key bigot-terms. Nowadays I barely even blink at being called \\\"retard\\\" instead of autistic (also inaccurate, as it depends extremely from area to area) \\\"emo\\\" instead of bipolar or similar, nor do I have a problem with most of the silly offensive stereotype jokes in FamilyGuy directed my way, and find it silly that this is the sort of convenient silly detail that is focused on by debaters rather than the actual context. The movie 300 is a decent well-known example for what actually is offensive, as regardless of all rationalisations in the world it still at the end of the day glirified and justified the ideal of genocide on anyone with a serious handicap, is morally identical to the work of Leni Riefenstahl, from a scientific (read Freakonomics) standpoint very much will cause propaganda of every principle Musslini believed in, and matter-of-fact is equivalent to a death-threat towards millions of people, regardless of double-standards.

Regarding this particular story, I would probably mostly have forgotten it by now if it wasn\\\'t because of the intense efforts to selectively [[BerserkButton censor]] my text... while leaving the literally ten times greater amount of positive recommendations alone. I don\\\'t have any problem with the writing quality, and that\\\'s never the sort of thing that bugs me anyway. If something is simply bad but harmless I\\\'ll just shrug and move to something else. However, if something is well-written, but has a fundamental perspective that reads as genuinely evil and is highly culturally influential on top (example 300, Bleach) \\\'\\\'then\\\'\\\' it can very easily get to me. As for this story I would definitely not go that far, and it is hardly the worst fic I\\\'ve seen in the [[MoralDissonance conceit]], [[AcceptableHardLuckTargets hatred]], and [[WhatIsEvil amorality]] areas, but then this \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' fanfiction we\\\'re talking about [[UnderStatement so it is not exactly saying much]], and it still contains [[CanonDefilement more]] than [[WhatTheHellHero enough]], to, in combination with the various other mentioned tendencies, including the [[PossessionSue OOC]], be severely annoying, and in this case it read as far more [[MindScrew deliberate]] and [[SatireParodyPastiche systematic]], especially combined with the \\\"satire\\\" label, the NoFourthWall commentary, and exaggerated mechanical trope-mashing, which read like modern media played for laugh. And yes I do tend to find romps entertaining up to a certain extent of offensive, but am not certain where exactly to draw the line... probably depending on the context/whenever it reads as having a deliberate unsympathetic message.

Of course, the impression from final product does not always at all gel with the actual intentions of the writer, and I sincerely doubt that Zack Snyder deliberately wanted to get known as \\\"that Mussolini-movie guy\\\" (he\\\'s certainly tried to distance himself from 300 through doing some more recent anti-Fascist movies), so you deserve benefit of doubt in that area, but it still honestly did give the impression I described, so changing my text even further would be pointless and dishonest

However, I did attempt to be as fair as I could in the review. I noted that the writing quality itself is decent, and not the problem, so it essentially boils down to personal taste. I noted that every tendency that I minded about it may be deliberate, as I did the same thing myself. And after I finally got around to watching RanmaAbridged I noticed that this is the sort of thing that reads as very similar in tone and I would probably have been able to enjoy more if that was all that I had seen. It doesn\\\'t mean that this was necessarily all that you had seen, but yeah, the story kind of reads like a mixture of YouTube and TvTropes mentality bias, with a dash of *shudder* ED, and it definitely doesn\\\'t read like an \\\'\\\'affectionate\\\'\\\' parody to me. Parody, yes, affectionate, no. There is far too much OOC and violation of the fundamental structure and insertion of much greater intolerance than the original for that. Despite the claims of 90% of people take the series too seriously, you\\\'re doing exactly the same thing. Bash-fic level intolerance for idiotic but harmless quirks while comparatively glorifying what is portrayed as genuinely evil author avatar characters is the entire \\\"take it too seriously\\\" problem apparently stemming from North American (or othervise) popular culture immersed fanfiction author perspective coming into collision with a series that, unlike the vast amount of material the writers had ingested, was never remotely intended to be intolerant. It goes beyond mere CerebusSyndrome, although that is certainly part of it.

Regardless, as Iaculus said, why do you even care so much/make such a fuzz over cutting away some diverging genuine impression? AfaIk there is almost no bad publicity. In fact I\\\'ve probably given you more readers than the positive/less rubberneck interesting preceding comments, and getting picky about (whether directly or through friends) someone disliking the tone of \\\'\\\'a story\\\'\\\', rather than, say, intense hate-propaganda centered on that you the person, and anyone like you, should be systematically exterminated, or tortured for all eterntity on principle, without even doing anything particularly bad, seems like such an extreme petty luxury-problem by my standards. A few people sent me hate-mail about my old story, but you know, at least they read it, that\\\'s something, and you did put your story to public display for input, so this should be very little by the usual standards, and to almost quote John Stewart (in relation to openly using the word \\\"nigger\\\"), \\\"if you make offensive public statements you can\\\'t complain that some people will find them offensive,\\\" or \\\"annoying\\\" in my case. So basically, there is no controlling this kind of thing, and not even an actual need to resort to blatant temporary identity false pump-up reviews, since there are various useful real ones as well, and no the story quality itself was definitely not \\\"shite\\\". If it was then I probably wouldn\\\'t even have bothered.
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