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I also cut out anything that was just two names (like \\\"Valdor and Katayana, NoJustNo!\\\"), because that doesn\\\'t mean anything to most readers. Most of the examples I didn\\\'t know, a few I did, but we need details. There may be some good examples among the list, if anyone wants to expand on them and move them back.
(Btw, I\\\'ll try to rewrite and put the Harry Potter entry back, minus the cruft and with more elaboration. It was one of the \\\"X + Y = BigNo!\\\" entries, but since it\\\'s the page image...)
The third type was just the stuff that actually happened canonically. In that case, it\\\'s not subtext Yay, that\\\'s an official, albeit {{squick}}y couple.
All three tended to have lots of natter, and it might be possible to condense some of them down into a readable example. I just had so much to go through, I stopped trying to read through it all after the first few times...
EDIT: Okay, posting them all in one message \\\'\\\'breaks the page\\\'\\\'. o.O
I\\\'ll try it in three parts...
* [[BlackCat Train/Creed]]. Dear God, \\\'\\\'\\\'no\\\'\\\'\\\'. NoJustNo.
* \\\'\\\'NeonGenesisEvangelion\\\'\\\', as TropeOverdosed as it is, has a massive and very disturbing example of this. Gendo x Fuyutsuki. NightmareFuel is putting it mildly.
** Are we really forgetting [[ParentalIncest Gendo/Shinji]]? We\\\'re talking about a guy who forces his son to [[spoiler:\\\'enter\\\' his mom]].
*** Gendo has ambiguous behaviours towards Shinji in the LighterAndSofter adaptation \\\'\\\'IkariShinjiRaisingProject\\\'\\\'. When you love your teenage son so much you want to bear-hug him from behind, take a bath with him, and frolic half-naked in the sea with him, you may love him \\\'\\\'the wrong way\\\'\\\'.
*** Hell, [[CompleteMonster Gendo]] X Anybody [[spoiler:except Yui, and even then...]]
**** The fact that even the thought of Gendo with his own wife causes squick [[FreudWasRight was probably intentional]].
*** Is there an opposite to a LauncherOfAThousandShips? Because Gendo is it. And Orochimaru.
*** The hints that Gendo might\\\'ve been sexually involved with 14-year-old Rei Ayanami. And when you learn that he cloned her as a replacement for his dead wife. Then a certain scene in \\\'\\\'TheEndOfEvangelion\\\'\\\' occurs.
*** Basically, despite Gendo\\\'s reputation of being a ladies-man, it\\\'s not actually pleasant to THINK about his relationships.
** Shinji/[[spoiler:Yui]], especially in [[FreudWasRight a certain scene in the manga...]]
** For some fans, [[spoiler:Rei]]/Shinji and [[spoiler:Misato]]/Shinji is NoYay and for others it\\\'s FetishFuel.
*** As for [[spoiler:Rei/Shinji]], considering that they are technically siblings (or parent/child, depending on perspective), both the law and several million years of evolution and genetics are on the NoYay side, even in Japan.
*** Technically speaking, they are closer to being cousins than siblings, which isn\\\'t actually taboo in Japan. The whole being \\\'\\\'[[InterspeciesRomance half angel]]\\\'\\\' matter on the other hand......
*** So Its more like bestiality then incest?
**** [[GoldenMeanFallacy Who says it can\\\'t be both]]?
*** Then there\\\'s the \\\'\\\'[[RebuildOfEvangelion Rebuild 2.0]]\\\'\\\' revelation that Gendo \\\'\\\'[[spoiler: purposefully drove Shinji and Rei to merge together in a catastrophe that nearly causes TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]]\\\'\\\'.
* From \\\'\\\'CodeGeass\\\'\\\' how about [[PsychoLesbian Nina]] X [[CargoShip Table-kun]]?
** And, on that note, there\\\'s also [[PsychoLesbian Nina\\\'s attraction to Euphie]]...
*** What was wrong with that? It only became creepy after [[spoiler:Euphemia was dead.]]
** Or [[BrotherSisterIncest Lelouch/Nunnally]]? Lelouch/Euphemia, too.
** And Rolo\\\'s [[HoYay love]] for his brother Lelouch.
* \\\'\\\'{{Naruto}}\\\'\\\' has Orochimaru/Sasuke. And Orochimaru/Kabuto. And Orochimaru/Kimimaro.
** Really, Orochimaru with anyone.
** Let\\\'s not forget Guy/Rock Lee.
** Really, any student/teacher or older/much younger pairing fits this. From Kakashi/Sakura to Shikamaru/Kurenai.
** In \\\'\\\'[[{{Omake}} Konoha Gakuen Dan]]\\\'\\\', Orochimaru/Sasuke subtext becomes \\\'\\\'text\\\'\\\', as \\\"Orochimaruko\\\" is a transvestite who lusts after Sasuke, which {{Squick}}s Sakura, Hinata and Ino.
** For some, any pairing involving an Akatsuki can be NoYay.
*** Like Madara/Naruto.
*** Or [[MindRape Madara]]/[[FoodChainOfEvil Kyuubi]].
** Lord, Hidan/Kakuzu. Although his personality is funny and entertaining and all, Kakuzu, can be \\\'\\\'really\\\'\\\' [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/4/41/Kakuzu2.PNG ugly]]. (Having red sclerae, solid green pupils, and weird black stitch tentacles connecting his limbs and across his mouth, and his long, bushy hair?)
** Of course You mileage may vary
** Itachi/Sasuke is this to some.
** Kimimaro to Juugo:
--->\\\'\\\'\\\'Yes. I\\\'m going to absorb the enzyme from your body into my own.\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Squick}} Hell yes]].
** And the Kisame/Killerbee FoeYay.
** There\\\'s also some Chiyo/Sakura out there.
** Some fans have also had this reaction to Naruto calling his mother a \\\"babe\\\".
** Kyuubi/Naruto.
*** There is a lot of fanart and fanfic that turns the Kyuubi into a human female to get around the InterspeciesRomance aspect of the pairing. She usually ends up looking like Karin.
* \\\'\\\'FruitsBasket\\\'\\\': Akito/Yuki.
* Ed and Al from \\\'\\\'FullmetalAlchemist\\\'\\\'. Although some fans like to see their relationship as purely a bond between two brothers, it\\\'s hard not to think about other interpretations when you know about what goes on in that fandom. They also have a few ambiguous lines, especially in the anime (\\\"I want to remember how the heat of your body feels\\\" --> {{Facepalm}}).
** Also, Ed and [[spoiler:Alfons Heiderich]]. The supposed FoeYay between Ed and Envy is especially creepy in the anime since [[spoiler:Envy is a homunculus created from his half-brother]]. Let\\\'s not even get into the absurdly Oedipal overtones around [[spoiler:anime-only: Psyren]], [[spoiler:anime Sloth]] and of course Trisha.
** And in the manga, anything involving [[spoiler:Father]], especially the ridiculous amount of FoeYay and ambiguous lines between him and Hohenheim (admittedly, it could be a sort of messed-up and incredibly complex [[spoiler:brotherly or parent-child]] relation, but still...). Some fans would already consider said character and Hohenheim {{Squick}}y in themselves, but a recent chapter has [[spoiler:Father]] declare to Hohenheim [[spoiler:Slave #23... you gave me part of your body. This time you will become part of mine\\\"]] in a scene that looks incredibly [[spoiler:{{Twincest}}uous]]. [[http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/91/36/ Judge for yourselves]] and notice the nasty marks on [[spoiler:Father\\\'s neck]] for added ugliness.
** The first anime takes the NoYay [[UpToEleven so far]] that even the director and voice actors joked about Scar being in love with Al and coming in between the [[HoYay BroYay]], and Roy acting in a way that makes him seem lovestruck with Ed (particularly in TheMovie).
** On a lighter note: Major Alex Louis Armstrong X anyone, full stop.
** Oh, and Dante\\\'s [[GrandTheftMe scheme]] involving Rose at the end of the first anime. * Shudder* :
--->\\\'\\\'\\\"I want to be loved by the son of Hohenheim\\\"\\\'\\\'
*** To clarify: Her scheme at the end of the series involved taking Edward as her lover after transferring herself to Rose.
** And then there\\\'s the people who ship first anime [[CompleteMonster Kimblee]] and [[HollywoodCyborg Archer]]. Gross.
* Speaking of [[BrotherSisterIncest brotherly love]]... Togurocest in \\\'\\\'YuYuHakusho\\\'\\\'. Possibly because Younger Toguro is a very honorable, conservative person, Elder Toguro is a CompleteMonster, and, when people make fanworks of these two, it usually ends up [[TastesLikeDiabetes tasting like diabetes.]]
* Grell crushing on Sebastian in \\\'\\\'{{Kuroshitsuji}}\\\'\\\'. Also, the fandom hasn\\\'t taken the outcome of filler episode 8 too lightly.
** Which part? The Sebastian/[[BigFriendlyDog Pluto]] part or the Finnie/[[NinjaMaid Angela]] part?
** It\\\'s not as obviously No Yay as, say, Baron Kelvin/Ciel.
** While they are definitely in the minority, there are those who consider all the implied {{Shotacon}} between Ciel and [[strike:the pedo-demon]] Sebastian to be this trope.
*** It\\\'s certainly not helped when you watch/read with the knowledge that Sebastian is just killing time until he gets to devour Ciel\\\'s soul. This causes many of the lines in the HoYay page to come across more as NightmareFuel -tastic \\\'\\\'threats.\\\'\\\'
** Baron Kelvin and Ciel. Hinted very heavily to be canon (at least, on the [[UnrequitedLove Baron\\\'s side]]). Unfortunately, 1. Baron Kelvin is an old, \\\'\\\'ugly\\\'\\\', fat [[AxCrazy psycho]] and 2. Ciel is a [[CuteShotaroBoy beautiful little 12-year-old]]. \\\'\\\'Very NO\\\'\\\' when one finds out he became [[StalkerWithACrush obsessed]] with Ciel since Ciel was seven years old.
** The sex scene between Sebastian and Beast may be considered this, since most people would prefer him with Ciel.
** And the sex/rape scene between Alois/Jim and his \\\"father\\\" the Earl Trancy.
* \\\'\\\'{{Monster}}\\\'\\\': Tenma/Johan. That is all.
** Also, Roberto\\\'s homoerotic obsession/devotion towards Johan.
** Also, there\\\'s the flashback sex scene between Eva and Roberto. To make it even more squicky, it\\\'s entirely from Eva\\\'s POV, meaning the entirety of it is spent focusing on Roberto, who is a {{Gonk}} of the highest degree.
** Just the thought of Roberto having sex with anyone is {{Squick}}y. In the final episodes, Roberto has sex with a a much younger and very naive lady from a small town. It doesn\\\'t help that he goes right back to killing people after the act.
* \\\'\\\'ChronoCrusade\\\'\\\' seems practically built on this. One of the worst offenders is Joshua -- thanks to his [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity insanity caused by the demon horns on his head]] he can barely remember what his sister Rosette is like, but [[BrotherSisterIncest is obsessed with seeing her again]]. That\\\'s creepy enough, but he often mistakes Fiore for his sister -- and during his saner moments, their relationship can be seen as romantic. In fact, in the manga during their last farewells, Fiore requests that he call her \\\"Sis\\\" one last time.
** Aion/Chrono can be like this at times, too. In the manga, [[spoiler:Aion is really Chrono\\\'s twin brother, unknown to him]], and seems to care quite a bit for him. However, this didn\\\'t stop the anime adaptation from including a scene where [[HoYay Aion holds Chrono\\\'s face in his hands and leans so close while speaking to him that their lips are almost touching]]. Add to the fact that they\\\'re TheLancer and the BigBad, respectively, and [[spoiler:the fact that Aion\\\'s also \\\'\\\'\\\'obsessed with their mother\\\'\\\'\\\' and in the manga speaks fondly to Chrono \\\'\\\'while cradling her head\\\'\\\']] and you have scenes that are packed with HoYay, FoeYay and NoYay all at once.
** When you think about it, in the manga even Rizel\\\'s one-sided love for Aion and Jenai\\\'s one-sided love for her (both of which are \\\'\\\'canon\\\'\\\') can be creepy when you consider that all demons [[HiveQueen have the same mother]].
* In \\\'\\\'{{Saiyuki}}\\\'\\\', the canonical pairing of Gonou [[spoiler:(Hakkai)]]/Kanan is this for some fans. Usually newer ones, as remaining in Saiyuki fandom long enough lets people adjust to and accept just [[DysfunctionJunction how screwed-up the canon characters are]].
** And speaking of Saiyuki incest, [[spoiler:Dokugakuji (Jien)/his own mother]] is also canon, and seen as far more [[{{Squick}} squicky]].
* Hansel and Gretel in \\\'\\\'BlackLagoon\\\'\\\'. Not only is it explicit, it\\\'s the \\\'\\\'least\\\'\\\' disturbing thing about them.
** And yet they still reached the 3rd place in a list of Black Lagoon\\\'s most popular couples. Goes to show just \\\'\\\'how\\\'\\\' subjective this trope can be.
* \\\'\\\'{{Bleach}}\\\'\\\'. [[ParentalIncest Isshin/Ichigo]]. Eww.
** Kenpachi/Byakuya. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIKs8xO88ew This vid]] demonstrates it best.
--->\\\'\\\'\\\'Byakuya\\\'\\\'\\\': Time passed by quickly while I was all alone with Captain Zaraki.
----> And Zaraki\\\'s \\\'\\\'smile...\\\'\\\'
*** [[MemeticBadass It\\\'s OK if it\\\'s Kenpachi.]]
** Let\\\'s not forget good ol\\\' Ichigo/[[spoiler:Aizen]]. Now, pass me the {{Brain Bleach}} please, with no pun intended.
*** [[BaitTheDog S]][[KickTheDog U]][[ForTheEvulz R]][[PokeThePoodle P]][[http://www.mangareader.net/94-44833-14/bleach/chapter-388.html RISE!!!]]
**** [[BigNo Noooo!!!!]] Can\\\'t Unsee! Can\\\'t Unsee!
** Let\\\'s just say [[BattleButler Tesla]] has terrible taste in [[MemeticMolester men.]]
** Gin/Rukia. It\\\'s [[strike:pretty much]] {{canon}} that Gin scares the shit out of Rukia. When she was in Soul Society waiting her execution she stated that even if he wasn\\\'t talking to her she\\\'d get this ominous feeling like \\\"snakes were curling themselves around her\\\" and she could feel \\\"every bead of sweat\\\" on her body whenever he was in her \\\'\\\'mere presence\\\'\\\'. And of course, there\\\'s the fact that Gin was a total asshole and told her that he would save her from being executed before squashing her hopes down flat.
** Nnoitora/Orihime. It was made \\\'\\\'quite\\\'\\\' obvious in the Japanese version of the manga that he wanted to do \\\'\\\'[[RapeTropes that]]\\\'\\\' to her, but then Kubo had to get all [[http://www.mangareader.net/94-751-5/bleach/chapter-297.html symbolic]] and [[RapeAsDrama sub]][[IHaveYouNowMyPretty text-y]].
* Aoki/Rin from \\\'\\\'KodomoNoJikan\\\'\\\'. So much NoYay.
** Probably because this pairing [[{{Lolicon}} appeals]] to most of the fans.
*** Or perhaps it is because it\\\'s less disturbing than the other relationships joked about. Aoki seems to be the ButtMonkey for every {{Yaoi}} fantasy that\\\'s been referenced (as to be expected from the series ButtMonkey). Whether it\\\'s [[RapeIsFunnyWhenItIsMaleOnMale Kagami dreaming of raping him if she were a boy]], [[MistakenForGay the teachers and kids assuming that he\\\'s having an affair with Oyajima]], or even the [[GenderFlip gender-flipped fantasies of Houin]], very few people ever fantasize him with anyone that \\\'\\\'isn\\\'t\\\'\\\' a man. Those are more {{Squick}}y scenarios in my book. Even Reiji gets in on the joke:
---> Reiji: \\\"Are those flowers... for me?\\\"
** Also, Reiji/Rin.
* Frieza/Ginyu in \\\'\\\'{{Dragonball}}\\\'\\\'. The {{Squick}} [[PowerLevels Level]] [[MemeticMutation is over]] [[BeyondTheImpossible one million]].
** Nah, it\\\'s gotta be the Frieza/Goku FoeYay. Especially evident in the [[DubText US dub]] where he is voiced by a woman with a raspy old lady voice and uses blatant sexual innuendo towards Goku.
** Don\\\'t forget Majin Buu/Mr. Satan!
* [[DeathNote Ryuk/Light]]. [[BrainBleach What has been seen cannot be unseen.]]
** Misa/Rem. Which is actually canon on Rem\\\'s side at least.
** This Trooper\\\'s \\\'\\\'mom\\\'\\\' actually thought the idea of Misa/Rem was cute.
** There has been a Ryuk/Apple fanfic
*** Disturbing
** There is also L/Cake fanfic. No, [[{{Squick}} I\\\'m not linking it]].
*** [[{{Fetish Fuel}} Please?]]
*** I saw a bit of it. It was so hilariously squicky that I couldn\\\'t stop laughing.
** Near and Light. [[NoJustNo Just no.]]
** Hell, Light and L. God no.
* For many readers of \\\'\\\'MiraiNikki\\\'\\\', Yukiteru/Yuno. [[{{Yandere}} Guess why.]]
** They\\\'d be very cute together, if it wasn\\\'t for Yuno\\\'s aforementioned [[{{Yandere}} condition.]]
* \\\'\\\'SailorMoon\\\'\\\': Chiba Mamoru and Chibi-Usa. - [[ParentalIncest father and daughter]].
** Sailor Moon R didn\\\'t help matters.
** And Chibi-Usa and Helios, a least while he\\\'s still a horse.
* \\\'\\\'Mega Man\\\'\\\': Take your pick, really. The two that jump out are [[MegaManStarForce Geo/Omega-Xis]] and [[MegaManBattleNetwork Lan/Megaman]], the former of which is InterspeciesRomance and the latter of which is {{twincest}}. Both get some moments in the anime that come dangerously close to veering from HeterosexualLifePartners into HoYay.
* \\\'\\\'{{Paprika}}\\\'\\\': Osanai and the Chairman. It wouldn\\\'t be so bad if the Chairman wasn\\\'t an insane old guy.
* Seto Kaiba and Pegasus from \\\'\\\'{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}!\\\'\\\' fit nicely into this trope.
** How about Dark Malik and Malik (aka Yami Marik and Marik)? It\\\'s technically the only case of actual selfcest in the manga/anime...
* \\\'\\\'{{Ookamikakushi}}\\\'\\\': Issei\\\'s actions towards Hiroshi are downright creepy in episode 3.
* \\\'\\\'WolfGuyWolfenCrest\\\'\\\' has plenty Haguro/Chiba and Haguro/Inugami NoYay, of the HighOctaneNightmareFuel variety. Some would also consider Haguro\\\'s sexual relationship with Ryuuko, who is just \\\'\\\'made\\\'\\\' of FanDisservie to be this as well. As well as Ryuuko [[InLoveWithYourCarnage wanting to bang the strongest man alive]] which is either Haguro or Inugami.
* The \\\'\\\'{{Texhnolyze}}\\\'\\\' anime has a scene where Touyama and his father have sex. It\\\'s also implied that his father continually molested him when he was a child.
* In \\\'\\\'NabariNoOu\\\'\\\' there is a rather creepy scene where Hattori is practically hitting on Yoite - \\\"You really are diligent and smart... as well as beautiful.\\\"
* \\\'\\\'SakuraGari\\\'\\\' has Masataka/Katsuragi (probably because of the scene where Katsuragi rapes and tortures him), Souma/Katsuragi (because Katsuragi made Souma kill his mother when he was younger and later raped him), and Sakurako/Masataka.
* The (written after the {{Anime}})[=~Wolf\\\'s Rain~=] {{Manga}} had in the latter chapters the NauseaFuel and MoreThanMindControl that is [[spoiler:Lord Darcia 3rd]][=/=]Blue.
* [[UltimateMarvel Ultimate]] Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
** Oddly enough, the outcry really only came after it was made \\\'\\\'explicit\\\'\\\'. There\\\'s a lot to be said for subtlety.
* Captain Hook and Wendy in the 2003 \\\'\\\'PeterPan\\\'\\\', to a sometimes very uncomfortable degree.
** This actually follows an interpretation of the original story, in which Wendy had some Electra stuff going on. Hook is meant to symbolize her father, and in many versions (including the aforementioned film and the 1953 Disney animated version) is played by the same actor.
*** Actually, Barrie intended Hook to resemble Wendy\\\'s mother, same actress (yes, \\\'\\\'\\\'actress\\\'\\\'\\\') and everything. But the actor playing the father was rather well known and talented, so they put him in as Hook instead and it became tradition after a while. So yes, Hook is actually a representation of Wendy\\\'s mother. Think about [[{{Squick}} that]] the next time you\\\'re watching that movie.
*** One reviewer had less of a problem with Wendy\\\'s perceived infatuation than he did with what he saw as Hook\\\'s attraction to \\\'\\\'[[{{Lolicon}} her]].\\\'\\\' With shots like [[http://i55.tinypic.com/348g0wl.jpg this]], it\\\'s [[YourMileageMayVary not]] hard to see why so many reviewers were rather uncomfortable with the film at times.
* For many \\\'\\\'StarWars\\\'\\\' fans, the overt romantic intentions between Luke and Leia - who are siblings - in the first movie and the first half of the second.
** Note that before TheReveal they were the FanPreferredCouple.
* Henry and Mark in \\\'\\\'TheGoodSon\\\'\\\'. Even if they weren\\\'t children it would still be intensely creepy.
** Indeed, especially when they were glaring at each other, with almost no space between them.
* Robert Ford/Jesse James (albeit more on the Ford to James side) in \\\'\\\'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'RepoTheGeneticOpera\\\'\\\' has distinct vibes between Nathan and his daughter [[IllGirl Shilo]]. And between Shilo and Graverobber. (Which is not incestuous, but not exactly healthy, either, given his profession.) And between all three of the Largo siblings (yes, even Pavi and Luigi). And even [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Rotti Largo]] and Shi. Still, Nathan/Shilo vibes have to top the heap.
* \\\'\\\'SonOfRambow\\\'\\\'. The whole [[MakeUpOrBreakUp break up-make up]] thing between Will and Lee Carter was a little too serious for the two 10-12 years old boys. Even more, Will kept mentioning that he wasn\\\'t allowed to see Lee Carter, as if they were two adults who had a serious, forbidden relationship.
* \\\'\\\'MuppetTreasureIsland\\\'\\\' has the most gay-for-Jim seeming version of [[TimCurry Long John Silver]] ever seen (including lines that wouldn\\\'t be out of place coming from a scorned lover), which is even creepier considering that unlike most modern films of the story, that version of Jim Hawkins is supposed to be still young enough to sing at least alto.
** Because Silver is \\\'\\\'[[TimCurry Tim]] [[TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Curry]].\\\'\\\'
(Btw, I\\\'ll try to rewrite and put the Harry Potter entry back, minus the cruft and with more elaboration. It was one of the \\\"X + Y = BigNo!\\\" entries, but since it\\\'s the page image...)
The third type was just the stuff that actually happened canonically. In that case, it\\\'s not subtext Yay, that\\\'s an official, albeit {{squick}}y couple.
All three tended to have lots of natter, and it might be possible to condense some of them down into a readable example. I just had so much to go through, I stopped trying to read through it all after the first few times...
EDIT: Okay, posting them all in one message \\\'\\\'breaks the page\\\'\\\'. o.O
I\\\'ll try it in three parts...
* [[BlackCat Train/Creed]]. Dear God, \\\'\\\'\\\'no\\\'\\\'\\\'. NoJustNo.
* \\\'\\\'NeonGenesisEvangelion\\\'\\\', as TropeOverdosed as it is, has a massive and very disturbing example of this. Gendo x Fuyutsuki. NightmareFuel is putting it mildly.
** Are we really forgetting [[ParentalIncest Gendo/Shinji]]? We\\\'re talking about a guy who forces his son to [[spoiler:\\\'enter\\\' his mom]].
*** Gendo has ambiguous behaviours towards Shinji in the LighterAndSofter adaptation \\\'\\\'IkariShinjiRaisingProject\\\'\\\'. When you love your teenage son so much you want to bear-hug him from behind, take a bath with him, and frolic half-naked in the sea with him, you may love him \\\'\\\'the wrong way\\\'\\\'.
*** Hell, [[CompleteMonster Gendo]] X Anybody [[spoiler:except Yui, and even then...]]
**** The fact that even the thought of Gendo with his own wife causes squick [[FreudWasRight was probably intentional]].
*** Is there an opposite to a LauncherOfAThousandShips? Because Gendo is it. And Orochimaru.
*** The hints that Gendo might\\\'ve been sexually involved with 14-year-old Rei Ayanami. And when you learn that he cloned her as a replacement for his dead wife. Then a certain scene in \\\'\\\'TheEndOfEvangelion\\\'\\\' occurs.
*** Basically, despite Gendo\\\'s reputation of being a ladies-man, it\\\'s not actually pleasant to THINK about his relationships.
** Shinji/[[spoiler:Yui]], especially in [[FreudWasRight a certain scene in the manga...]]
** For some fans, [[spoiler:Rei]]/Shinji and [[spoiler:Misato]]/Shinji is NoYay and for others it\\\'s FetishFuel.
*** As for [[spoiler:Rei/Shinji]], considering that they are technically siblings (or parent/child, depending on perspective), both the law and several million years of evolution and genetics are on the NoYay side, even in Japan.
*** Technically speaking, they are closer to being cousins than siblings, which isn\\\'t actually taboo in Japan. The whole being \\\'\\\'[[InterspeciesRomance half angel]]\\\'\\\' matter on the other hand......
*** So Its more like bestiality then incest?
**** [[GoldenMeanFallacy Who says it can\\\'t be both]]?
*** Then there\\\'s the \\\'\\\'[[RebuildOfEvangelion Rebuild 2.0]]\\\'\\\' revelation that Gendo \\\'\\\'[[spoiler: purposefully drove Shinji and Rei to merge together in a catastrophe that nearly causes TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]]\\\'\\\'.
* From \\\'\\\'CodeGeass\\\'\\\' how about [[PsychoLesbian Nina]] X [[CargoShip Table-kun]]?
** And, on that note, there\\\'s also [[PsychoLesbian Nina\\\'s attraction to Euphie]]...
*** What was wrong with that? It only became creepy after [[spoiler:Euphemia was dead.]]
** Or [[BrotherSisterIncest Lelouch/Nunnally]]? Lelouch/Euphemia, too.
** And Rolo\\\'s [[HoYay love]] for his brother Lelouch.
* \\\'\\\'{{Naruto}}\\\'\\\' has Orochimaru/Sasuke. And Orochimaru/Kabuto. And Orochimaru/Kimimaro.
** Really, Orochimaru with anyone.
** Let\\\'s not forget Guy/Rock Lee.
** Really, any student/teacher or older/much younger pairing fits this. From Kakashi/Sakura to Shikamaru/Kurenai.
** In \\\'\\\'[[{{Omake}} Konoha Gakuen Dan]]\\\'\\\', Orochimaru/Sasuke subtext becomes \\\'\\\'text\\\'\\\', as \\\"Orochimaruko\\\" is a transvestite who lusts after Sasuke, which {{Squick}}s Sakura, Hinata and Ino.
** For some, any pairing involving an Akatsuki can be NoYay.
*** Like Madara/Naruto.
*** Or [[MindRape Madara]]/[[FoodChainOfEvil Kyuubi]].
** Lord, Hidan/Kakuzu. Although his personality is funny and entertaining and all, Kakuzu, can be \\\'\\\'really\\\'\\\' [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/4/41/Kakuzu2.PNG ugly]]. (Having red sclerae, solid green pupils, and weird black stitch tentacles connecting his limbs and across his mouth, and his long, bushy hair?)
** Of course You mileage may vary
** Itachi/Sasuke is this to some.
** Kimimaro to Juugo:
--->\\\'\\\'\\\'Yes. I\\\'m going to absorb the enzyme from your body into my own.\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Squick}} Hell yes]].
** And the Kisame/Killerbee FoeYay.
** There\\\'s also some Chiyo/Sakura out there.
** Some fans have also had this reaction to Naruto calling his mother a \\\"babe\\\".
** Kyuubi/Naruto.
*** There is a lot of fanart and fanfic that turns the Kyuubi into a human female to get around the InterspeciesRomance aspect of the pairing. She usually ends up looking like Karin.
* \\\'\\\'FruitsBasket\\\'\\\': Akito/Yuki.
* Ed and Al from \\\'\\\'FullmetalAlchemist\\\'\\\'. Although some fans like to see their relationship as purely a bond between two brothers, it\\\'s hard not to think about other interpretations when you know about what goes on in that fandom. They also have a few ambiguous lines, especially in the anime (\\\"I want to remember how the heat of your body feels\\\" --> {{Facepalm}}).
** Also, Ed and [[spoiler:Alfons Heiderich]]. The supposed FoeYay between Ed and Envy is especially creepy in the anime since [[spoiler:Envy is a homunculus created from his half-brother]]. Let\\\'s not even get into the absurdly Oedipal overtones around [[spoiler:anime-only: Psyren]], [[spoiler:anime Sloth]] and of course Trisha.
** And in the manga, anything involving [[spoiler:Father]], especially the ridiculous amount of FoeYay and ambiguous lines between him and Hohenheim (admittedly, it could be a sort of messed-up and incredibly complex [[spoiler:brotherly or parent-child]] relation, but still...). Some fans would already consider said character and Hohenheim {{Squick}}y in themselves, but a recent chapter has [[spoiler:Father]] declare to Hohenheim [[spoiler:Slave #23... you gave me part of your body. This time you will become part of mine\\\"]] in a scene that looks incredibly [[spoiler:{{Twincest}}uous]]. [[http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/91/36/ Judge for yourselves]] and notice the nasty marks on [[spoiler:Father\\\'s neck]] for added ugliness.
** The first anime takes the NoYay [[UpToEleven so far]] that even the director and voice actors joked about Scar being in love with Al and coming in between the [[HoYay BroYay]], and Roy acting in a way that makes him seem lovestruck with Ed (particularly in TheMovie).
** On a lighter note: Major Alex Louis Armstrong X anyone, full stop.
** Oh, and Dante\\\'s [[GrandTheftMe scheme]] involving Rose at the end of the first anime. * Shudder* :
--->\\\'\\\'\\\"I want to be loved by the son of Hohenheim\\\"\\\'\\\'
*** To clarify: Her scheme at the end of the series involved taking Edward as her lover after transferring herself to Rose.
** And then there\\\'s the people who ship first anime [[CompleteMonster Kimblee]] and [[HollywoodCyborg Archer]]. Gross.
* Speaking of [[BrotherSisterIncest brotherly love]]... Togurocest in \\\'\\\'YuYuHakusho\\\'\\\'. Possibly because Younger Toguro is a very honorable, conservative person, Elder Toguro is a CompleteMonster, and, when people make fanworks of these two, it usually ends up [[TastesLikeDiabetes tasting like diabetes.]]
* Grell crushing on Sebastian in \\\'\\\'{{Kuroshitsuji}}\\\'\\\'. Also, the fandom hasn\\\'t taken the outcome of filler episode 8 too lightly.
** Which part? The Sebastian/[[BigFriendlyDog Pluto]] part or the Finnie/[[NinjaMaid Angela]] part?
** It\\\'s not as obviously No Yay as, say, Baron Kelvin/Ciel.
** While they are definitely in the minority, there are those who consider all the implied {{Shotacon}} between Ciel and [[strike:the pedo-demon]] Sebastian to be this trope.
*** It\\\'s certainly not helped when you watch/read with the knowledge that Sebastian is just killing time until he gets to devour Ciel\\\'s soul. This causes many of the lines in the HoYay page to come across more as NightmareFuel -tastic \\\'\\\'threats.\\\'\\\'
** Baron Kelvin and Ciel. Hinted very heavily to be canon (at least, on the [[UnrequitedLove Baron\\\'s side]]). Unfortunately, 1. Baron Kelvin is an old, \\\'\\\'ugly\\\'\\\', fat [[AxCrazy psycho]] and 2. Ciel is a [[CuteShotaroBoy beautiful little 12-year-old]]. \\\'\\\'Very NO\\\'\\\' when one finds out he became [[StalkerWithACrush obsessed]] with Ciel since Ciel was seven years old.
** The sex scene between Sebastian and Beast may be considered this, since most people would prefer him with Ciel.
** And the sex/rape scene between Alois/Jim and his \\\"father\\\" the Earl Trancy.
* \\\'\\\'{{Monster}}\\\'\\\': Tenma/Johan. That is all.
** Also, Roberto\\\'s homoerotic obsession/devotion towards Johan.
** Also, there\\\'s the flashback sex scene between Eva and Roberto. To make it even more squicky, it\\\'s entirely from Eva\\\'s POV, meaning the entirety of it is spent focusing on Roberto, who is a {{Gonk}} of the highest degree.
** Just the thought of Roberto having sex with anyone is {{Squick}}y. In the final episodes, Roberto has sex with a a much younger and very naive lady from a small town. It doesn\\\'t help that he goes right back to killing people after the act.
* \\\'\\\'ChronoCrusade\\\'\\\' seems practically built on this. One of the worst offenders is Joshua -- thanks to his [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity insanity caused by the demon horns on his head]] he can barely remember what his sister Rosette is like, but [[BrotherSisterIncest is obsessed with seeing her again]]. That\\\'s creepy enough, but he often mistakes Fiore for his sister -- and during his saner moments, their relationship can be seen as romantic. In fact, in the manga during their last farewells, Fiore requests that he call her \\\"Sis\\\" one last time.
** Aion/Chrono can be like this at times, too. In the manga, [[spoiler:Aion is really Chrono\\\'s twin brother, unknown to him]], and seems to care quite a bit for him. However, this didn\\\'t stop the anime adaptation from including a scene where [[HoYay Aion holds Chrono\\\'s face in his hands and leans so close while speaking to him that their lips are almost touching]]. Add to the fact that they\\\'re TheLancer and the BigBad, respectively, and [[spoiler:the fact that Aion\\\'s also \\\'\\\'\\\'obsessed with their mother\\\'\\\'\\\' and in the manga speaks fondly to Chrono \\\'\\\'while cradling her head\\\'\\\']] and you have scenes that are packed with HoYay, FoeYay and NoYay all at once.
** When you think about it, in the manga even Rizel\\\'s one-sided love for Aion and Jenai\\\'s one-sided love for her (both of which are \\\'\\\'canon\\\'\\\') can be creepy when you consider that all demons [[HiveQueen have the same mother]].
* In \\\'\\\'{{Saiyuki}}\\\'\\\', the canonical pairing of Gonou [[spoiler:(Hakkai)]]/Kanan is this for some fans. Usually newer ones, as remaining in Saiyuki fandom long enough lets people adjust to and accept just [[DysfunctionJunction how screwed-up the canon characters are]].
** And speaking of Saiyuki incest, [[spoiler:Dokugakuji (Jien)/his own mother]] is also canon, and seen as far more [[{{Squick}} squicky]].
* Hansel and Gretel in \\\'\\\'BlackLagoon\\\'\\\'. Not only is it explicit, it\\\'s the \\\'\\\'least\\\'\\\' disturbing thing about them.
** And yet they still reached the 3rd place in a list of Black Lagoon\\\'s most popular couples. Goes to show just \\\'\\\'how\\\'\\\' subjective this trope can be.
* \\\'\\\'{{Bleach}}\\\'\\\'. [[ParentalIncest Isshin/Ichigo]]. Eww.
** Kenpachi/Byakuya. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIKs8xO88ew This vid]] demonstrates it best.
--->\\\'\\\'\\\'Byakuya\\\'\\\'\\\': Time passed by quickly while I was all alone with Captain Zaraki.
----> And Zaraki\\\'s \\\'\\\'smile...\\\'\\\'
*** [[MemeticBadass It\\\'s OK if it\\\'s Kenpachi.]]
** Let\\\'s not forget good ol\\\' Ichigo/[[spoiler:Aizen]]. Now, pass me the {{Brain Bleach}} please, with no pun intended.
*** [[BaitTheDog S]][[KickTheDog U]][[ForTheEvulz R]][[PokeThePoodle P]][[http://www.mangareader.net/94-44833-14/bleach/chapter-388.html RISE!!!]]
**** [[BigNo Noooo!!!!]] Can\\\'t Unsee! Can\\\'t Unsee!
** Let\\\'s just say [[BattleButler Tesla]] has terrible taste in [[MemeticMolester men.]]
** Gin/Rukia. It\\\'s [[strike:pretty much]] {{canon}} that Gin scares the shit out of Rukia. When she was in Soul Society waiting her execution she stated that even if he wasn\\\'t talking to her she\\\'d get this ominous feeling like \\\"snakes were curling themselves around her\\\" and she could feel \\\"every bead of sweat\\\" on her body whenever he was in her \\\'\\\'mere presence\\\'\\\'. And of course, there\\\'s the fact that Gin was a total asshole and told her that he would save her from being executed before squashing her hopes down flat.
** Nnoitora/Orihime. It was made \\\'\\\'quite\\\'\\\' obvious in the Japanese version of the manga that he wanted to do \\\'\\\'[[RapeTropes that]]\\\'\\\' to her, but then Kubo had to get all [[http://www.mangareader.net/94-751-5/bleach/chapter-297.html symbolic]] and [[RapeAsDrama sub]][[IHaveYouNowMyPretty text-y]].
* Aoki/Rin from \\\'\\\'KodomoNoJikan\\\'\\\'. So much NoYay.
** Probably because this pairing [[{{Lolicon}} appeals]] to most of the fans.
*** Or perhaps it is because it\\\'s less disturbing than the other relationships joked about. Aoki seems to be the ButtMonkey for every {{Yaoi}} fantasy that\\\'s been referenced (as to be expected from the series ButtMonkey). Whether it\\\'s [[RapeIsFunnyWhenItIsMaleOnMale Kagami dreaming of raping him if she were a boy]], [[MistakenForGay the teachers and kids assuming that he\\\'s having an affair with Oyajima]], or even the [[GenderFlip gender-flipped fantasies of Houin]], very few people ever fantasize him with anyone that \\\'\\\'isn\\\'t\\\'\\\' a man. Those are more {{Squick}}y scenarios in my book. Even Reiji gets in on the joke:
---> Reiji: \\\"Are those flowers... for me?\\\"
** Also, Reiji/Rin.
* Frieza/Ginyu in \\\'\\\'{{Dragonball}}\\\'\\\'. The {{Squick}} [[PowerLevels Level]] [[MemeticMutation is over]] [[BeyondTheImpossible one million]].
** Nah, it\\\'s gotta be the Frieza/Goku FoeYay. Especially evident in the [[DubText US dub]] where he is voiced by a woman with a raspy old lady voice and uses blatant sexual innuendo towards Goku.
** Don\\\'t forget Majin Buu/Mr. Satan!
* [[DeathNote Ryuk/Light]]. [[BrainBleach What has been seen cannot be unseen.]]
** Misa/Rem. Which is actually canon on Rem\\\'s side at least.
** This Trooper\\\'s \\\'\\\'mom\\\'\\\' actually thought the idea of Misa/Rem was cute.
** There has been a Ryuk/Apple fanfic
*** Disturbing
** There is also L/Cake fanfic. No, [[{{Squick}} I\\\'m not linking it]].
*** [[{{Fetish Fuel}} Please?]]
*** I saw a bit of it. It was so hilariously squicky that I couldn\\\'t stop laughing.
** Near and Light. [[NoJustNo Just no.]]
** Hell, Light and L. God no.
* For many readers of \\\'\\\'MiraiNikki\\\'\\\', Yukiteru/Yuno. [[{{Yandere}} Guess why.]]
** They\\\'d be very cute together, if it wasn\\\'t for Yuno\\\'s aforementioned [[{{Yandere}} condition.]]
* \\\'\\\'SailorMoon\\\'\\\': Chiba Mamoru and Chibi-Usa. - [[ParentalIncest father and daughter]].
** Sailor Moon R didn\\\'t help matters.
** And Chibi-Usa and Helios, a least while he\\\'s still a horse.
* \\\'\\\'Mega Man\\\'\\\': Take your pick, really. The two that jump out are [[MegaManStarForce Geo/Omega-Xis]] and [[MegaManBattleNetwork Lan/Megaman]], the former of which is InterspeciesRomance and the latter of which is {{twincest}}. Both get some moments in the anime that come dangerously close to veering from HeterosexualLifePartners into HoYay.
* \\\'\\\'{{Paprika}}\\\'\\\': Osanai and the Chairman. It wouldn\\\'t be so bad if the Chairman wasn\\\'t an insane old guy.
* Seto Kaiba and Pegasus from \\\'\\\'{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}!\\\'\\\' fit nicely into this trope.
** How about Dark Malik and Malik (aka Yami Marik and Marik)? It\\\'s technically the only case of actual selfcest in the manga/anime...
* \\\'\\\'{{Ookamikakushi}}\\\'\\\': Issei\\\'s actions towards Hiroshi are downright creepy in episode 3.
* \\\'\\\'WolfGuyWolfenCrest\\\'\\\' has plenty Haguro/Chiba and Haguro/Inugami NoYay, of the HighOctaneNightmareFuel variety. Some would also consider Haguro\\\'s sexual relationship with Ryuuko, who is just \\\'\\\'made\\\'\\\' of FanDisservie to be this as well. As well as Ryuuko [[InLoveWithYourCarnage wanting to bang the strongest man alive]] which is either Haguro or Inugami.
* The \\\'\\\'{{Texhnolyze}}\\\'\\\' anime has a scene where Touyama and his father have sex. It\\\'s also implied that his father continually molested him when he was a child.
* In \\\'\\\'NabariNoOu\\\'\\\' there is a rather creepy scene where Hattori is practically hitting on Yoite - \\\"You really are diligent and smart... as well as beautiful.\\\"
* \\\'\\\'SakuraGari\\\'\\\' has Masataka/Katsuragi (probably because of the scene where Katsuragi rapes and tortures him), Souma/Katsuragi (because Katsuragi made Souma kill his mother when he was younger and later raped him), and Sakurako/Masataka.
* The (written after the {{Anime}})[=~Wolf\\\'s Rain~=] {{Manga}} had in the latter chapters the NauseaFuel and MoreThanMindControl that is [[spoiler:Lord Darcia 3rd]][=/=]Blue.
* [[UltimateMarvel Ultimate]] Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
** Oddly enough, the outcry really only came after it was made \\\'\\\'explicit\\\'\\\'. There\\\'s a lot to be said for subtlety.
* Captain Hook and Wendy in the 2003 \\\'\\\'PeterPan\\\'\\\', to a sometimes very uncomfortable degree.
** This actually follows an interpretation of the original story, in which Wendy had some Electra stuff going on. Hook is meant to symbolize her father, and in many versions (including the aforementioned film and the 1953 Disney animated version) is played by the same actor.
*** Actually, Barrie intended Hook to resemble Wendy\\\'s mother, same actress (yes, \\\'\\\'\\\'actress\\\'\\\'\\\') and everything. But the actor playing the father was rather well known and talented, so they put him in as Hook instead and it became tradition after a while. So yes, Hook is actually a representation of Wendy\\\'s mother. Think about [[{{Squick}} that]] the next time you\\\'re watching that movie.
*** One reviewer had less of a problem with Wendy\\\'s perceived infatuation than he did with what he saw as Hook\\\'s attraction to \\\'\\\'[[{{Lolicon}} her]].\\\'\\\' With shots like [[http://i55.tinypic.com/348g0wl.jpg this]], it\\\'s [[YourMileageMayVary not]] hard to see why so many reviewers were rather uncomfortable with the film at times.
* For many \\\'\\\'StarWars\\\'\\\' fans, the overt romantic intentions between Luke and Leia - who are siblings - in the first movie and the first half of the second.
** Note that before TheReveal they were the FanPreferredCouple.
* Henry and Mark in \\\'\\\'TheGoodSon\\\'\\\'. Even if they weren\\\'t children it would still be intensely creepy.
** Indeed, especially when they were glaring at each other, with almost no space between them.
* Robert Ford/Jesse James (albeit more on the Ford to James side) in \\\'\\\'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'RepoTheGeneticOpera\\\'\\\' has distinct vibes between Nathan and his daughter [[IllGirl Shilo]]. And between Shilo and Graverobber. (Which is not incestuous, but not exactly healthy, either, given his profession.) And between all three of the Largo siblings (yes, even Pavi and Luigi). And even [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Rotti Largo]] and Shi. Still, Nathan/Shilo vibes have to top the heap.
* \\\'\\\'SonOfRambow\\\'\\\'. The whole [[MakeUpOrBreakUp break up-make up]] thing between Will and Lee Carter was a little too serious for the two 10-12 years old boys. Even more, Will kept mentioning that he wasn\\\'t allowed to see Lee Carter, as if they were two adults who had a serious, forbidden relationship.
* \\\'\\\'MuppetTreasureIsland\\\'\\\' has the most gay-for-Jim seeming version of [[TimCurry Long John Silver]] ever seen (including lines that wouldn\\\'t be out of place coming from a scorned lover), which is even creepier considering that unlike most modern films of the story, that version of Jim Hawkins is supposed to be still young enough to sing at least alto.
** Because Silver is \\\'\\\'[[TimCurry Tim]] [[TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Curry]].\\\'\\\'
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I also cut out anything that was just two names (like \\\"Valdor and Katayana, NoJustNo!\\\"), because that doesn\\\'t mean anything to most readers. Most of the examples I didn\\\'t know, a few I did, but we need details. There may be some good examples among the list, if anyone wants to expand on them and move them back.
(Btw, I\\\'ll try to rewrite and put the Harry Potter entry back, minus the cruft and with more elaboration. It was one of the \\\"X + Y = BigNo!\\\" entries, but since it\\\'s the page image...)
The third type was just the stuff that actually happened canonically. In that case, it\\\'s not subtext Yay, that\\\'s an official, albeit {{squicky}} couple.
All three tended to have lots of natter, and it might be possible to condense some of them down into a readable example. I just had so much to go through, I stopped trying to read through it all after the first few times...
EDIT: Okay, posting them all in one message \\\'\\\'breaks the page\\\'\\\'. o.O
I\\\'ll try it in three parts...
* [[BlackCat Train/Creed]]. Dear God, \\\'\\\'\\\'no\\\'\\\'\\\'. NoJustNo.
* \\\'\\\'NeonGenesisEvangelion\\\'\\\', as TropeOverdosed as it is, has a massive and very disturbing example of this. Gendo x Fuyutsuki. NightmareFuel is putting it mildly.
** Are we really forgetting [[ParentalIncest Gendo/Shinji]]? We\\\'re talking about a guy who forces his son to [[spoiler:\\\'enter\\\' his mom]].
*** Gendo has ambiguous behaviours towards Shinji in the LighterAndSofter adaptation \\\'\\\'IkariShinjiRaisingProject\\\'\\\'. When you love your teenage son so much you want to bear-hug him from behind, take a bath with him, and frolic half-naked in the sea with him, you may love him \\\'\\\'the wrong way\\\'\\\'.
*** Hell, [[CompleteMonster Gendo]] X Anybody [[spoiler:except Yui, and even then...]]
**** The fact that even the thought of Gendo with his own wife causes squick [[FreudWasRight was probably intentional]].
*** Is there an opposite to a LauncherOfAThousandShips? Because Gendo is it. And Orochimaru.
*** The hints that Gendo might\\\'ve been sexually involved with 14-year-old Rei Ayanami. And when you learn that he cloned her as a replacement for his dead wife. Then a certain scene in \\\'\\\'TheEndOfEvangelion\\\'\\\' occurs.
*** Basically, despite Gendo\\\'s reputation of being a ladies-man, it\\\'s not actually pleasant to THINK about his relationships.
** Shinji/[[spoiler:Yui]], especially in [[FreudWasRight a certain scene in the manga...]]
** For some fans, [[spoiler:Rei]]/Shinji and [[spoiler:Misato]]/Shinji is NoYay and for others it\\\'s FetishFuel.
*** As for [[spoiler:Rei/Shinji]], considering that they are technically siblings (or parent/child, depending on perspective), both the law and several million years of evolution and genetics are on the NoYay side, even in Japan.
*** Technically speaking, they are closer to being cousins than siblings, which isn\\\'t actually taboo in Japan. The whole being \\\'\\\'[[InterspeciesRomance half angel]]\\\'\\\' matter on the other hand......
*** So Its more like bestiality then incest?
**** [[GoldenMeanFallacy Who says it can\\\'t be both]]?
*** Then there\\\'s the \\\'\\\'[[RebuildOfEvangelion Rebuild 2.0]]\\\'\\\' revelation that Gendo \\\'\\\'[[spoiler: purposefully drove Shinji and Rei to merge together in a catastrophe that nearly causes TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]]\\\'\\\'.
* From \\\'\\\'CodeGeass\\\'\\\' how about [[PsychoLesbian Nina]] X [[CargoShip Table-kun]]?
** And, on that note, there\\\'s also [[PsychoLesbian Nina\\\'s attraction to Euphie]]...
*** What was wrong with that? It only became creepy after [[spoiler:Euphemia was dead.]]
** Or [[BrotherSisterIncest Lelouch/Nunnally]]? Lelouch/Euphemia, too.
** And Rolo\\\'s [[HoYay love]] for his brother Lelouch.
* \\\'\\\'{{Naruto}}\\\'\\\' has Orochimaru/Sasuke. And Orochimaru/Kabuto. And Orochimaru/Kimimaro.
** Really, Orochimaru with anyone.
** Let\\\'s not forget Guy/Rock Lee.
** Really, any student/teacher or older/much younger pairing fits this. From Kakashi/Sakura to Shikamaru/Kurenai.
** In \\\'\\\'[[{{Omake}} Konoha Gakuen Dan]]\\\'\\\', Orochimaru/Sasuke subtext becomes \\\'\\\'text\\\'\\\', as \\\"Orochimaruko\\\" is a transvestite who lusts after Sasuke, which {{Squick}}s Sakura, Hinata and Ino.
** For some, any pairing involving an Akatsuki can be NoYay.
*** Like Madara/Naruto.
*** Or [[MindRape Madara]]/[[FoodChainOfEvil Kyuubi]].
** Lord, Hidan/Kakuzu. Although his personality is funny and entertaining and all, Kakuzu, can be \\\'\\\'really\\\'\\\' [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/4/41/Kakuzu2.PNG ugly]]. (Having red sclerae, solid green pupils, and weird black stitch tentacles connecting his limbs and across his mouth, and his long, bushy hair?)
** Of course You mileage may vary
** Itachi/Sasuke is this to some.
** Kimimaro to Juugo:
--->\\\'\\\'\\\'Yes. I\\\'m going to absorb the enzyme from your body into my own.\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Squick}} Hell yes]].
** And the Kisame/Killerbee FoeYay.
** There\\\'s also some Chiyo/Sakura out there.
** Some fans have also had this reaction to Naruto calling his mother a \\\"babe\\\".
** Kyuubi/Naruto.
*** There is a lot of fanart and fanfic that turns the Kyuubi into a human female to get around the InterspeciesRomance aspect of the pairing. She usually ends up looking like Karin.
* \\\'\\\'FruitsBasket\\\'\\\': Akito/Yuki.
* Ed and Al from \\\'\\\'FullmetalAlchemist\\\'\\\'. Although some fans like to see their relationship as purely a bond between two brothers, it\\\'s hard not to think about other interpretations when you know about what goes on in that fandom. They also have a few ambiguous lines, especially in the anime (\\\"I want to remember how the heat of your body feels\\\" --> {{Facepalm}}).
** Also, Ed and [[spoiler:Alfons Heiderich]]. The supposed FoeYay between Ed and Envy is especially creepy in the anime since [[spoiler:Envy is a homunculus created from his half-brother]]. Let\\\'s not even get into the absurdly Oedipal overtones around [[spoiler:anime-only: Psyren]], [[spoiler:anime Sloth]] and of course Trisha.
** And in the manga, anything involving [[spoiler:Father]], especially the ridiculous amount of FoeYay and ambiguous lines between him and Hohenheim (admittedly, it could be a sort of messed-up and incredibly complex [[spoiler:brotherly or parent-child]] relation, but still...). Some fans would already consider said character and Hohenheim {{Squick}}y in themselves, but a recent chapter has [[spoiler:Father]] declare to Hohenheim [[spoiler:Slave #23... you gave me part of your body. This time you will become part of mine\\\"]] in a scene that looks incredibly [[spoiler:{{Twincest}}uous]]. [[http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/91/36/ Judge for yourselves]] and notice the nasty marks on [[spoiler:Father\\\'s neck]] for added ugliness.
** The first anime takes the NoYay [[UpToEleven so far]] that even the director and voice actors joked about Scar being in love with Al and coming in between the [[HoYay BroYay]], and Roy acting in a way that makes him seem lovestruck with Ed (particularly in TheMovie).
** On a lighter note: Major Alex Louis Armstrong X anyone, full stop.
** Oh, and Dante\\\'s [[GrandTheftMe scheme]] involving Rose at the end of the first anime. * Shudder* :
--->\\\'\\\'\\\"I want to be loved by the son of Hohenheim\\\"\\\'\\\'
*** To clarify: Her scheme at the end of the series involved taking Edward as her lover after transferring herself to Rose.
** And then there\\\'s the people who ship first anime [[CompleteMonster Kimblee]] and [[HollywoodCyborg Archer]]. Gross.
* Speaking of [[BrotherSisterIncest brotherly love]]... Togurocest in \\\'\\\'YuYuHakusho\\\'\\\'. Possibly because Younger Toguro is a very honorable, conservative person, Elder Toguro is a CompleteMonster, and, when people make fanworks of these two, it usually ends up [[TastesLikeDiabetes tasting like diabetes.]]
* Grell crushing on Sebastian in \\\'\\\'{{Kuroshitsuji}}\\\'\\\'. Also, the fandom hasn\\\'t taken the outcome of filler episode 8 too lightly.
** Which part? The Sebastian/[[BigFriendlyDog Pluto]] part or the Finnie/[[NinjaMaid Angela]] part?
** It\\\'s not as obviously No Yay as, say, Baron Kelvin/Ciel.
** While they are definitely in the minority, there are those who consider all the implied {{Shotacon}} between Ciel and [[strike:the pedo-demon]] Sebastian to be this trope.
*** It\\\'s certainly not helped when you watch/read with the knowledge that Sebastian is just killing time until he gets to devour Ciel\\\'s soul. This causes many of the lines in the HoYay page to come across more as NightmareFuel -tastic \\\'\\\'threats.\\\'\\\'
** Baron Kelvin and Ciel. Hinted very heavily to be canon (at least, on the [[UnrequitedLove Baron\\\'s side]]). Unfortunately, 1. Baron Kelvin is an old, \\\'\\\'ugly\\\'\\\', fat [[AxCrazy psycho]] and 2. Ciel is a [[CuteShotaroBoy beautiful little 12-year-old]]. \\\'\\\'Very NO\\\'\\\' when one finds out he became [[StalkerWithACrush obsessed]] with Ciel since Ciel was seven years old.
** The sex scene between Sebastian and Beast may be considered this, since most people would prefer him with Ciel.
** And the sex/rape scene between Alois/Jim and his \\\"father\\\" the Earl Trancy.
* \\\'\\\'{{Monster}}\\\'\\\': Tenma/Johan. That is all.
** Also, Roberto\\\'s homoerotic obsession/devotion towards Johan.
** Also, there\\\'s the flashback sex scene between Eva and Roberto. To make it even more squicky, it\\\'s entirely from Eva\\\'s POV, meaning the entirety of it is spent focusing on Roberto, who is a {{Gonk}} of the highest degree.
** Just the thought of Roberto having sex with anyone is {{Squick}}y. In the final episodes, Roberto has sex with a a much younger and very naive lady from a small town. It doesn\\\'t help that he goes right back to killing people after the act.
* \\\'\\\'ChronoCrusade\\\'\\\' seems practically built on this. One of the worst offenders is Joshua -- thanks to his [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity insanity caused by the demon horns on his head]] he can barely remember what his sister Rosette is like, but [[BrotherSisterIncest is obsessed with seeing her again]]. That\\\'s creepy enough, but he often mistakes Fiore for his sister -- and during his saner moments, their relationship can be seen as romantic. In fact, in the manga during their last farewells, Fiore requests that he call her \\\"Sis\\\" one last time.
** Aion/Chrono can be like this at times, too. In the manga, [[spoiler:Aion is really Chrono\\\'s twin brother, unknown to him]], and seems to care quite a bit for him. However, this didn\\\'t stop the anime adaptation from including a scene where [[HoYay Aion holds Chrono\\\'s face in his hands and leans so close while speaking to him that their lips are almost touching]]. Add to the fact that they\\\'re TheLancer and the BigBad, respectively, and [[spoiler:the fact that Aion\\\'s also \\\'\\\'\\\'obsessed with their mother\\\'\\\'\\\' and in the manga speaks fondly to Chrono \\\'\\\'while cradling her head\\\'\\\']] and you have scenes that are packed with HoYay, FoeYay and NoYay all at once.
** When you think about it, in the manga even Rizel\\\'s one-sided love for Aion and Jenai\\\'s one-sided love for her (both of which are \\\'\\\'canon\\\'\\\') can be creepy when you consider that all demons [[HiveQueen have the same mother]].
* In \\\'\\\'{{Saiyuki}}\\\'\\\', the canonical pairing of Gonou [[spoiler:(Hakkai)]]/Kanan is this for some fans. Usually newer ones, as remaining in Saiyuki fandom long enough lets people adjust to and accept just [[DysfunctionJunction how screwed-up the canon characters are]].
** And speaking of Saiyuki incest, [[spoiler:Dokugakuji (Jien)/his own mother]] is also canon, and seen as far more [[{{Squick}} squicky]].
* Hansel and Gretel in \\\'\\\'BlackLagoon\\\'\\\'. Not only is it explicit, it\\\'s the \\\'\\\'least\\\'\\\' disturbing thing about them.
** And yet they still reached the 3rd place in a list of Black Lagoon\\\'s most popular couples. Goes to show just \\\'\\\'how\\\'\\\' subjective this trope can be.
* \\\'\\\'{{Bleach}}\\\'\\\'. [[ParentalIncest Isshin/Ichigo]]. Eww.
** Kenpachi/Byakuya. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIKs8xO88ew This vid]] demonstrates it best.
--->\\\'\\\'\\\'Byakuya\\\'\\\'\\\': Time passed by quickly while I was all alone with Captain Zaraki.
----> And Zaraki\\\'s \\\'\\\'smile...\\\'\\\'
*** [[MemeticBadass It\\\'s OK if it\\\'s Kenpachi.]]
** Let\\\'s not forget good ol\\\' Ichigo/[[spoiler:Aizen]]. Now, pass me the {{Brain Bleach}} please, with no pun intended.
*** [[BaitTheDog S]][[KickTheDog U]][[ForTheEvulz R]][[PokeThePoodle P]][[http://www.mangareader.net/94-44833-14/bleach/chapter-388.html RISE!!!]]
**** [[BigNo Noooo!!!!]] Can\\\'t Unsee! Can\\\'t Unsee!
** Let\\\'s just say [[BattleButler Tesla]] has terrible taste in [[MemeticMolester men.]]
** Gin/Rukia. It\\\'s [[strike:pretty much]] {{canon}} that Gin scares the shit out of Rukia. When she was in Soul Society waiting her execution she stated that even if he wasn\\\'t talking to her she\\\'d get this ominous feeling like \\\"snakes were curling themselves around her\\\" and she could feel \\\"every bead of sweat\\\" on her body whenever he was in her \\\'\\\'mere presence\\\'\\\'. And of course, there\\\'s the fact that Gin was a total asshole and told her that he would save her from being executed before squashing her hopes down flat.
** Nnoitora/Orihime. It was made \\\'\\\'quite\\\'\\\' obvious in the Japanese version of the manga that he wanted to do \\\'\\\'[[RapeTropes that]]\\\'\\\' to her, but then Kubo had to get all [[http://www.mangareader.net/94-751-5/bleach/chapter-297.html symbolic]] and [[RapeAsDrama sub]][[IHaveYouNowMyPretty text-y]].
* Aoki/Rin from \\\'\\\'KodomoNoJikan\\\'\\\'. So much NoYay.
** Probably because this pairing [[{{Lolicon}} appeals]] to most of the fans.
*** Or perhaps it is because it\\\'s less disturbing than the other relationships joked about. Aoki seems to be the ButtMonkey for every {{Yaoi}} fantasy that\\\'s been referenced (as to be expected from the series ButtMonkey). Whether it\\\'s [[RapeIsFunnyWhenItIsMaleOnMale Kagami dreaming of raping him if she were a boy]], [[MistakenForGay the teachers and kids assuming that he\\\'s having an affair with Oyajima]], or even the [[GenderFlip gender-flipped fantasies of Houin]], very few people ever fantasize him with anyone that \\\'\\\'isn\\\'t\\\'\\\' a man. Those are more {{Squick}}y scenarios in my book. Even Reiji gets in on the joke:
---> Reiji: \\\"Are those flowers... for me?\\\"
** Also, Reiji/Rin.
* Frieza/Ginyu in \\\'\\\'{{Dragonball}}\\\'\\\'. The {{Squick}} [[PowerLevels Level]] [[MemeticMutation is over]] [[BeyondTheImpossible one million]].
** Nah, it\\\'s gotta be the Frieza/Goku FoeYay. Especially evident in the [[DubText US dub]] where he is voiced by a woman with a raspy old lady voice and uses blatant sexual innuendo towards Goku.
** Don\\\'t forget Majin Buu/Mr. Satan!
* [[DeathNote Ryuk/Light]]. [[BrainBleach What has been seen cannot be unseen.]]
** Misa/Rem. Which is actually canon on Rem\\\'s side at least.
** This Trooper\\\'s \\\'\\\'mom\\\'\\\' actually thought the idea of Misa/Rem was cute.
** There has been a Ryuk/Apple fanfic
*** Disturbing
** There is also L/Cake fanfic. No, [[{{Squick}} I\\\'m not linking it]].
*** [[{{Fetish Fuel}} Please?]]
*** I saw a bit of it. It was so hilariously squicky that I couldn\\\'t stop laughing.
** Near and Light. [[NoJustNo Just no.]]
** Hell, Light and L. God no.
* For many readers of \\\'\\\'MiraiNikki\\\'\\\', Yukiteru/Yuno. [[{{Yandere}} Guess why.]]
** They\\\'d be very cute together, if it wasn\\\'t for Yuno\\\'s aforementioned [[{{Yandere}} condition.]]
* \\\'\\\'SailorMoon\\\'\\\': Chiba Mamoru and Chibi-Usa. - [[ParentalIncest father and daughter]].
** Sailor Moon R didn\\\'t help matters.
** And Chibi-Usa and Helios, a least while he\\\'s still a horse.
* \\\'\\\'Mega Man\\\'\\\': Take your pick, really. The two that jump out are [[MegaManStarForce Geo/Omega-Xis]] and [[MegaManBattleNetwork Lan/Megaman]], the former of which is InterspeciesRomance and the latter of which is {{twincest}}. Both get some moments in the anime that come dangerously close to veering from HeterosexualLifePartners into HoYay.
* \\\'\\\'{{Paprika}}\\\'\\\': Osanai and the Chairman. It wouldn\\\'t be so bad if the Chairman wasn\\\'t an insane old guy.
* Seto Kaiba and Pegasus from \\\'\\\'{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}!\\\'\\\' fit nicely into this trope.
** How about Dark Malik and Malik (aka Yami Marik and Marik)? It\\\'s technically the only case of actual selfcest in the manga/anime...
* \\\'\\\'{{Ookamikakushi}}\\\'\\\': Issei\\\'s actions towards Hiroshi are downright creepy in episode 3.
* \\\'\\\'WolfGuyWolfenCrest\\\'\\\' has plenty Haguro/Chiba and Haguro/Inugami NoYay, of the HighOctaneNightmareFuel variety. Some would also consider Haguro\\\'s sexual relationship with Ryuuko, who is just \\\'\\\'made\\\'\\\' of FanDisservie to be this as well. As well as Ryuuko [[InLoveWithYourCarnage wanting to bang the strongest man alive]] which is either Haguro or Inugami.
* The \\\'\\\'{{Texhnolyze}}\\\'\\\' anime has a scene where Touyama and his father have sex. It\\\'s also implied that his father continually molested him when he was a child.
* In \\\'\\\'NabariNoOu\\\'\\\' there is a rather creepy scene where Hattori is practically hitting on Yoite - \\\"You really are diligent and smart... as well as beautiful.\\\"
* \\\'\\\'SakuraGari\\\'\\\' has Masataka/Katsuragi (probably because of the scene where Katsuragi rapes and tortures him), Souma/Katsuragi (because Katsuragi made Souma kill his mother when he was younger and later raped him), and Sakurako/Masataka.
* The (written after the {{Anime}})[=~Wolf\\\'s Rain~=] {{Manga}} had in the latter chapters the NauseaFuel and MoreThanMindControl that is [[spoiler:Lord Darcia 3rd]][=/=]Blue.
* [[UltimateMarvel Ultimate]] Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
** Oddly enough, the outcry really only came after it was made \\\'\\\'explicit\\\'\\\'. There\\\'s a lot to be said for subtlety.
* Captain Hook and Wendy in the 2003 \\\'\\\'PeterPan\\\'\\\', to a sometimes very uncomfortable degree.
** This actually follows an interpretation of the original story, in which Wendy had some Electra stuff going on. Hook is meant to symbolize her father, and in many versions (including the aforementioned film and the 1953 Disney animated version) is played by the same actor.
*** Actually, Barrie intended Hook to resemble Wendy\\\'s mother, same actress (yes, \\\'\\\'\\\'actress\\\'\\\'\\\') and everything. But the actor playing the father was rather well known and talented, so they put him in as Hook instead and it became tradition after a while. So yes, Hook is actually a representation of Wendy\\\'s mother. Think about [[{{Squick}} that]] the next time you\\\'re watching that movie.
*** One reviewer had less of a problem with Wendy\\\'s perceived infatuation than he did with what he saw as Hook\\\'s attraction to \\\'\\\'[[{{Lolicon}} her]].\\\'\\\' With shots like [[http://i55.tinypic.com/348g0wl.jpg this]], it\\\'s [[YourMileageMayVary not]] hard to see why so many reviewers were rather uncomfortable with the film at times.
* For many \\\'\\\'StarWars\\\'\\\' fans, the overt romantic intentions between Luke and Leia - who are siblings - in the first movie and the first half of the second.
** Note that before TheReveal they were the FanPreferredCouple.
* Henry and Mark in \\\'\\\'TheGoodSon\\\'\\\'. Even if they weren\\\'t children it would still be intensely creepy.
** Indeed, especially when they were glaring at each other, with almost no space between them.
* Robert Ford/Jesse James (albeit more on the Ford to James side) in \\\'\\\'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'RepoTheGeneticOpera\\\'\\\' has distinct vibes between Nathan and his daughter [[IllGirl Shilo]]. And between Shilo and Graverobber. (Which is not incestuous, but not exactly healthy, either, given his profession.) And between all three of the Largo siblings (yes, even Pavi and Luigi). And even [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Rotti Largo]] and Shi. Still, Nathan/Shilo vibes have to top the heap.
* \\\'\\\'SonOfRambow\\\'\\\'. The whole [[MakeUpOrBreakUp break up-make up]] thing between Will and Lee Carter was a little too serious for the two 10-12 years old boys. Even more, Will kept mentioning that he wasn\\\'t allowed to see Lee Carter, as if they were two adults who had a serious, forbidden relationship.
* \\\'\\\'MuppetTreasureIsland\\\'\\\' has the most gay-for-Jim seeming version of [[TimCurry Long John Silver]] ever seen (including lines that wouldn\\\'t be out of place coming from a scorned lover), which is even creepier considering that unlike most modern films of the story, that version of Jim Hawkins is supposed to be still young enough to sing at least alto.
** Because Silver is \\\'\\\'[[TimCurry Tim]] [[TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Curry]].\\\'\\\'
(Btw, I\\\'ll try to rewrite and put the Harry Potter entry back, minus the cruft and with more elaboration. It was one of the \\\"X + Y = BigNo!\\\" entries, but since it\\\'s the page image...)
The third type was just the stuff that actually happened canonically. In that case, it\\\'s not subtext Yay, that\\\'s an official, albeit {{squicky}} couple.
All three tended to have lots of natter, and it might be possible to condense some of them down into a readable example. I just had so much to go through, I stopped trying to read through it all after the first few times...
EDIT: Okay, posting them all in one message \\\'\\\'breaks the page\\\'\\\'. o.O
I\\\'ll try it in three parts...
* [[BlackCat Train/Creed]]. Dear God, \\\'\\\'\\\'no\\\'\\\'\\\'. NoJustNo.
* \\\'\\\'NeonGenesisEvangelion\\\'\\\', as TropeOverdosed as it is, has a massive and very disturbing example of this. Gendo x Fuyutsuki. NightmareFuel is putting it mildly.
** Are we really forgetting [[ParentalIncest Gendo/Shinji]]? We\\\'re talking about a guy who forces his son to [[spoiler:\\\'enter\\\' his mom]].
*** Gendo has ambiguous behaviours towards Shinji in the LighterAndSofter adaptation \\\'\\\'IkariShinjiRaisingProject\\\'\\\'. When you love your teenage son so much you want to bear-hug him from behind, take a bath with him, and frolic half-naked in the sea with him, you may love him \\\'\\\'the wrong way\\\'\\\'.
*** Hell, [[CompleteMonster Gendo]] X Anybody [[spoiler:except Yui, and even then...]]
**** The fact that even the thought of Gendo with his own wife causes squick [[FreudWasRight was probably intentional]].
*** Is there an opposite to a LauncherOfAThousandShips? Because Gendo is it. And Orochimaru.
*** The hints that Gendo might\\\'ve been sexually involved with 14-year-old Rei Ayanami. And when you learn that he cloned her as a replacement for his dead wife. Then a certain scene in \\\'\\\'TheEndOfEvangelion\\\'\\\' occurs.
*** Basically, despite Gendo\\\'s reputation of being a ladies-man, it\\\'s not actually pleasant to THINK about his relationships.
** Shinji/[[spoiler:Yui]], especially in [[FreudWasRight a certain scene in the manga...]]
** For some fans, [[spoiler:Rei]]/Shinji and [[spoiler:Misato]]/Shinji is NoYay and for others it\\\'s FetishFuel.
*** As for [[spoiler:Rei/Shinji]], considering that they are technically siblings (or parent/child, depending on perspective), both the law and several million years of evolution and genetics are on the NoYay side, even in Japan.
*** Technically speaking, they are closer to being cousins than siblings, which isn\\\'t actually taboo in Japan. The whole being \\\'\\\'[[InterspeciesRomance half angel]]\\\'\\\' matter on the other hand......
*** So Its more like bestiality then incest?
**** [[GoldenMeanFallacy Who says it can\\\'t be both]]?
*** Then there\\\'s the \\\'\\\'[[RebuildOfEvangelion Rebuild 2.0]]\\\'\\\' revelation that Gendo \\\'\\\'[[spoiler: purposefully drove Shinji and Rei to merge together in a catastrophe that nearly causes TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]]\\\'\\\'.
* From \\\'\\\'CodeGeass\\\'\\\' how about [[PsychoLesbian Nina]] X [[CargoShip Table-kun]]?
** And, on that note, there\\\'s also [[PsychoLesbian Nina\\\'s attraction to Euphie]]...
*** What was wrong with that? It only became creepy after [[spoiler:Euphemia was dead.]]
** Or [[BrotherSisterIncest Lelouch/Nunnally]]? Lelouch/Euphemia, too.
** And Rolo\\\'s [[HoYay love]] for his brother Lelouch.
* \\\'\\\'{{Naruto}}\\\'\\\' has Orochimaru/Sasuke. And Orochimaru/Kabuto. And Orochimaru/Kimimaro.
** Really, Orochimaru with anyone.
** Let\\\'s not forget Guy/Rock Lee.
** Really, any student/teacher or older/much younger pairing fits this. From Kakashi/Sakura to Shikamaru/Kurenai.
** In \\\'\\\'[[{{Omake}} Konoha Gakuen Dan]]\\\'\\\', Orochimaru/Sasuke subtext becomes \\\'\\\'text\\\'\\\', as \\\"Orochimaruko\\\" is a transvestite who lusts after Sasuke, which {{Squick}}s Sakura, Hinata and Ino.
** For some, any pairing involving an Akatsuki can be NoYay.
*** Like Madara/Naruto.
*** Or [[MindRape Madara]]/[[FoodChainOfEvil Kyuubi]].
** Lord, Hidan/Kakuzu. Although his personality is funny and entertaining and all, Kakuzu, can be \\\'\\\'really\\\'\\\' [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/4/41/Kakuzu2.PNG ugly]]. (Having red sclerae, solid green pupils, and weird black stitch tentacles connecting his limbs and across his mouth, and his long, bushy hair?)
** Of course You mileage may vary
** Itachi/Sasuke is this to some.
** Kimimaro to Juugo:
--->\\\'\\\'\\\'Yes. I\\\'m going to absorb the enzyme from your body into my own.\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Squick}} Hell yes]].
** And the Kisame/Killerbee FoeYay.
** There\\\'s also some Chiyo/Sakura out there.
** Some fans have also had this reaction to Naruto calling his mother a \\\"babe\\\".
** Kyuubi/Naruto.
*** There is a lot of fanart and fanfic that turns the Kyuubi into a human female to get around the InterspeciesRomance aspect of the pairing. She usually ends up looking like Karin.
* \\\'\\\'FruitsBasket\\\'\\\': Akito/Yuki.
* Ed and Al from \\\'\\\'FullmetalAlchemist\\\'\\\'. Although some fans like to see their relationship as purely a bond between two brothers, it\\\'s hard not to think about other interpretations when you know about what goes on in that fandom. They also have a few ambiguous lines, especially in the anime (\\\"I want to remember how the heat of your body feels\\\" --> {{Facepalm}}).
** Also, Ed and [[spoiler:Alfons Heiderich]]. The supposed FoeYay between Ed and Envy is especially creepy in the anime since [[spoiler:Envy is a homunculus created from his half-brother]]. Let\\\'s not even get into the absurdly Oedipal overtones around [[spoiler:anime-only: Psyren]], [[spoiler:anime Sloth]] and of course Trisha.
** And in the manga, anything involving [[spoiler:Father]], especially the ridiculous amount of FoeYay and ambiguous lines between him and Hohenheim (admittedly, it could be a sort of messed-up and incredibly complex [[spoiler:brotherly or parent-child]] relation, but still...). Some fans would already consider said character and Hohenheim {{Squick}}y in themselves, but a recent chapter has [[spoiler:Father]] declare to Hohenheim [[spoiler:Slave #23... you gave me part of your body. This time you will become part of mine\\\"]] in a scene that looks incredibly [[spoiler:{{Twincest}}uous]]. [[http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/91/36/ Judge for yourselves]] and notice the nasty marks on [[spoiler:Father\\\'s neck]] for added ugliness.
** The first anime takes the NoYay [[UpToEleven so far]] that even the director and voice actors joked about Scar being in love with Al and coming in between the [[HoYay BroYay]], and Roy acting in a way that makes him seem lovestruck with Ed (particularly in TheMovie).
** On a lighter note: Major Alex Louis Armstrong X anyone, full stop.
** Oh, and Dante\\\'s [[GrandTheftMe scheme]] involving Rose at the end of the first anime. * Shudder* :
--->\\\'\\\'\\\"I want to be loved by the son of Hohenheim\\\"\\\'\\\'
*** To clarify: Her scheme at the end of the series involved taking Edward as her lover after transferring herself to Rose.
** And then there\\\'s the people who ship first anime [[CompleteMonster Kimblee]] and [[HollywoodCyborg Archer]]. Gross.
* Speaking of [[BrotherSisterIncest brotherly love]]... Togurocest in \\\'\\\'YuYuHakusho\\\'\\\'. Possibly because Younger Toguro is a very honorable, conservative person, Elder Toguro is a CompleteMonster, and, when people make fanworks of these two, it usually ends up [[TastesLikeDiabetes tasting like diabetes.]]
* Grell crushing on Sebastian in \\\'\\\'{{Kuroshitsuji}}\\\'\\\'. Also, the fandom hasn\\\'t taken the outcome of filler episode 8 too lightly.
** Which part? The Sebastian/[[BigFriendlyDog Pluto]] part or the Finnie/[[NinjaMaid Angela]] part?
** It\\\'s not as obviously No Yay as, say, Baron Kelvin/Ciel.
** While they are definitely in the minority, there are those who consider all the implied {{Shotacon}} between Ciel and [[strike:the pedo-demon]] Sebastian to be this trope.
*** It\\\'s certainly not helped when you watch/read with the knowledge that Sebastian is just killing time until he gets to devour Ciel\\\'s soul. This causes many of the lines in the HoYay page to come across more as NightmareFuel -tastic \\\'\\\'threats.\\\'\\\'
** Baron Kelvin and Ciel. Hinted very heavily to be canon (at least, on the [[UnrequitedLove Baron\\\'s side]]). Unfortunately, 1. Baron Kelvin is an old, \\\'\\\'ugly\\\'\\\', fat [[AxCrazy psycho]] and 2. Ciel is a [[CuteShotaroBoy beautiful little 12-year-old]]. \\\'\\\'Very NO\\\'\\\' when one finds out he became [[StalkerWithACrush obsessed]] with Ciel since Ciel was seven years old.
** The sex scene between Sebastian and Beast may be considered this, since most people would prefer him with Ciel.
** And the sex/rape scene between Alois/Jim and his \\\"father\\\" the Earl Trancy.
* \\\'\\\'{{Monster}}\\\'\\\': Tenma/Johan. That is all.
** Also, Roberto\\\'s homoerotic obsession/devotion towards Johan.
** Also, there\\\'s the flashback sex scene between Eva and Roberto. To make it even more squicky, it\\\'s entirely from Eva\\\'s POV, meaning the entirety of it is spent focusing on Roberto, who is a {{Gonk}} of the highest degree.
** Just the thought of Roberto having sex with anyone is {{Squick}}y. In the final episodes, Roberto has sex with a a much younger and very naive lady from a small town. It doesn\\\'t help that he goes right back to killing people after the act.
* \\\'\\\'ChronoCrusade\\\'\\\' seems practically built on this. One of the worst offenders is Joshua -- thanks to his [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity insanity caused by the demon horns on his head]] he can barely remember what his sister Rosette is like, but [[BrotherSisterIncest is obsessed with seeing her again]]. That\\\'s creepy enough, but he often mistakes Fiore for his sister -- and during his saner moments, their relationship can be seen as romantic. In fact, in the manga during their last farewells, Fiore requests that he call her \\\"Sis\\\" one last time.
** Aion/Chrono can be like this at times, too. In the manga, [[spoiler:Aion is really Chrono\\\'s twin brother, unknown to him]], and seems to care quite a bit for him. However, this didn\\\'t stop the anime adaptation from including a scene where [[HoYay Aion holds Chrono\\\'s face in his hands and leans so close while speaking to him that their lips are almost touching]]. Add to the fact that they\\\'re TheLancer and the BigBad, respectively, and [[spoiler:the fact that Aion\\\'s also \\\'\\\'\\\'obsessed with their mother\\\'\\\'\\\' and in the manga speaks fondly to Chrono \\\'\\\'while cradling her head\\\'\\\']] and you have scenes that are packed with HoYay, FoeYay and NoYay all at once.
** When you think about it, in the manga even Rizel\\\'s one-sided love for Aion and Jenai\\\'s one-sided love for her (both of which are \\\'\\\'canon\\\'\\\') can be creepy when you consider that all demons [[HiveQueen have the same mother]].
* In \\\'\\\'{{Saiyuki}}\\\'\\\', the canonical pairing of Gonou [[spoiler:(Hakkai)]]/Kanan is this for some fans. Usually newer ones, as remaining in Saiyuki fandom long enough lets people adjust to and accept just [[DysfunctionJunction how screwed-up the canon characters are]].
** And speaking of Saiyuki incest, [[spoiler:Dokugakuji (Jien)/his own mother]] is also canon, and seen as far more [[{{Squick}} squicky]].
* Hansel and Gretel in \\\'\\\'BlackLagoon\\\'\\\'. Not only is it explicit, it\\\'s the \\\'\\\'least\\\'\\\' disturbing thing about them.
** And yet they still reached the 3rd place in a list of Black Lagoon\\\'s most popular couples. Goes to show just \\\'\\\'how\\\'\\\' subjective this trope can be.
* \\\'\\\'{{Bleach}}\\\'\\\'. [[ParentalIncest Isshin/Ichigo]]. Eww.
** Kenpachi/Byakuya. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIKs8xO88ew This vid]] demonstrates it best.
--->\\\'\\\'\\\'Byakuya\\\'\\\'\\\': Time passed by quickly while I was all alone with Captain Zaraki.
----> And Zaraki\\\'s \\\'\\\'smile...\\\'\\\'
*** [[MemeticBadass It\\\'s OK if it\\\'s Kenpachi.]]
** Let\\\'s not forget good ol\\\' Ichigo/[[spoiler:Aizen]]. Now, pass me the {{Brain Bleach}} please, with no pun intended.
*** [[BaitTheDog S]][[KickTheDog U]][[ForTheEvulz R]][[PokeThePoodle P]][[http://www.mangareader.net/94-44833-14/bleach/chapter-388.html RISE!!!]]
**** [[BigNo Noooo!!!!]] Can\\\'t Unsee! Can\\\'t Unsee!
** Let\\\'s just say [[BattleButler Tesla]] has terrible taste in [[MemeticMolester men.]]
** Gin/Rukia. It\\\'s [[strike:pretty much]] {{canon}} that Gin scares the shit out of Rukia. When she was in Soul Society waiting her execution she stated that even if he wasn\\\'t talking to her she\\\'d get this ominous feeling like \\\"snakes were curling themselves around her\\\" and she could feel \\\"every bead of sweat\\\" on her body whenever he was in her \\\'\\\'mere presence\\\'\\\'. And of course, there\\\'s the fact that Gin was a total asshole and told her that he would save her from being executed before squashing her hopes down flat.
** Nnoitora/Orihime. It was made \\\'\\\'quite\\\'\\\' obvious in the Japanese version of the manga that he wanted to do \\\'\\\'[[RapeTropes that]]\\\'\\\' to her, but then Kubo had to get all [[http://www.mangareader.net/94-751-5/bleach/chapter-297.html symbolic]] and [[RapeAsDrama sub]][[IHaveYouNowMyPretty text-y]].
* Aoki/Rin from \\\'\\\'KodomoNoJikan\\\'\\\'. So much NoYay.
** Probably because this pairing [[{{Lolicon}} appeals]] to most of the fans.
*** Or perhaps it is because it\\\'s less disturbing than the other relationships joked about. Aoki seems to be the ButtMonkey for every {{Yaoi}} fantasy that\\\'s been referenced (as to be expected from the series ButtMonkey). Whether it\\\'s [[RapeIsFunnyWhenItIsMaleOnMale Kagami dreaming of raping him if she were a boy]], [[MistakenForGay the teachers and kids assuming that he\\\'s having an affair with Oyajima]], or even the [[GenderFlip gender-flipped fantasies of Houin]], very few people ever fantasize him with anyone that \\\'\\\'isn\\\'t\\\'\\\' a man. Those are more {{Squick}}y scenarios in my book. Even Reiji gets in on the joke:
---> Reiji: \\\"Are those flowers... for me?\\\"
** Also, Reiji/Rin.
* Frieza/Ginyu in \\\'\\\'{{Dragonball}}\\\'\\\'. The {{Squick}} [[PowerLevels Level]] [[MemeticMutation is over]] [[BeyondTheImpossible one million]].
** Nah, it\\\'s gotta be the Frieza/Goku FoeYay. Especially evident in the [[DubText US dub]] where he is voiced by a woman with a raspy old lady voice and uses blatant sexual innuendo towards Goku.
** Don\\\'t forget Majin Buu/Mr. Satan!
* [[DeathNote Ryuk/Light]]. [[BrainBleach What has been seen cannot be unseen.]]
** Misa/Rem. Which is actually canon on Rem\\\'s side at least.
** This Trooper\\\'s \\\'\\\'mom\\\'\\\' actually thought the idea of Misa/Rem was cute.
** There has been a Ryuk/Apple fanfic
*** Disturbing
** There is also L/Cake fanfic. No, [[{{Squick}} I\\\'m not linking it]].
*** [[{{Fetish Fuel}} Please?]]
*** I saw a bit of it. It was so hilariously squicky that I couldn\\\'t stop laughing.
** Near and Light. [[NoJustNo Just no.]]
** Hell, Light and L. God no.
* For many readers of \\\'\\\'MiraiNikki\\\'\\\', Yukiteru/Yuno. [[{{Yandere}} Guess why.]]
** They\\\'d be very cute together, if it wasn\\\'t for Yuno\\\'s aforementioned [[{{Yandere}} condition.]]
* \\\'\\\'SailorMoon\\\'\\\': Chiba Mamoru and Chibi-Usa. - [[ParentalIncest father and daughter]].
** Sailor Moon R didn\\\'t help matters.
** And Chibi-Usa and Helios, a least while he\\\'s still a horse.
* \\\'\\\'Mega Man\\\'\\\': Take your pick, really. The two that jump out are [[MegaManStarForce Geo/Omega-Xis]] and [[MegaManBattleNetwork Lan/Megaman]], the former of which is InterspeciesRomance and the latter of which is {{twincest}}. Both get some moments in the anime that come dangerously close to veering from HeterosexualLifePartners into HoYay.
* \\\'\\\'{{Paprika}}\\\'\\\': Osanai and the Chairman. It wouldn\\\'t be so bad if the Chairman wasn\\\'t an insane old guy.
* Seto Kaiba and Pegasus from \\\'\\\'{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}!\\\'\\\' fit nicely into this trope.
** How about Dark Malik and Malik (aka Yami Marik and Marik)? It\\\'s technically the only case of actual selfcest in the manga/anime...
* \\\'\\\'{{Ookamikakushi}}\\\'\\\': Issei\\\'s actions towards Hiroshi are downright creepy in episode 3.
* \\\'\\\'WolfGuyWolfenCrest\\\'\\\' has plenty Haguro/Chiba and Haguro/Inugami NoYay, of the HighOctaneNightmareFuel variety. Some would also consider Haguro\\\'s sexual relationship with Ryuuko, who is just \\\'\\\'made\\\'\\\' of FanDisservie to be this as well. As well as Ryuuko [[InLoveWithYourCarnage wanting to bang the strongest man alive]] which is either Haguro or Inugami.
* The \\\'\\\'{{Texhnolyze}}\\\'\\\' anime has a scene where Touyama and his father have sex. It\\\'s also implied that his father continually molested him when he was a child.
* In \\\'\\\'NabariNoOu\\\'\\\' there is a rather creepy scene where Hattori is practically hitting on Yoite - \\\"You really are diligent and smart... as well as beautiful.\\\"
* \\\'\\\'SakuraGari\\\'\\\' has Masataka/Katsuragi (probably because of the scene where Katsuragi rapes and tortures him), Souma/Katsuragi (because Katsuragi made Souma kill his mother when he was younger and later raped him), and Sakurako/Masataka.
* The (written after the {{Anime}})[=~Wolf\\\'s Rain~=] {{Manga}} had in the latter chapters the NauseaFuel and MoreThanMindControl that is [[spoiler:Lord Darcia 3rd]][=/=]Blue.
* [[UltimateMarvel Ultimate]] Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
** Oddly enough, the outcry really only came after it was made \\\'\\\'explicit\\\'\\\'. There\\\'s a lot to be said for subtlety.
* Captain Hook and Wendy in the 2003 \\\'\\\'PeterPan\\\'\\\', to a sometimes very uncomfortable degree.
** This actually follows an interpretation of the original story, in which Wendy had some Electra stuff going on. Hook is meant to symbolize her father, and in many versions (including the aforementioned film and the 1953 Disney animated version) is played by the same actor.
*** Actually, Barrie intended Hook to resemble Wendy\\\'s mother, same actress (yes, \\\'\\\'\\\'actress\\\'\\\'\\\') and everything. But the actor playing the father was rather well known and talented, so they put him in as Hook instead and it became tradition after a while. So yes, Hook is actually a representation of Wendy\\\'s mother. Think about [[{{Squick}} that]] the next time you\\\'re watching that movie.
*** One reviewer had less of a problem with Wendy\\\'s perceived infatuation than he did with what he saw as Hook\\\'s attraction to \\\'\\\'[[{{Lolicon}} her]].\\\'\\\' With shots like [[http://i55.tinypic.com/348g0wl.jpg this]], it\\\'s [[YourMileageMayVary not]] hard to see why so many reviewers were rather uncomfortable with the film at times.
* For many \\\'\\\'StarWars\\\'\\\' fans, the overt romantic intentions between Luke and Leia - who are siblings - in the first movie and the first half of the second.
** Note that before TheReveal they were the FanPreferredCouple.
* Henry and Mark in \\\'\\\'TheGoodSon\\\'\\\'. Even if they weren\\\'t children it would still be intensely creepy.
** Indeed, especially when they were glaring at each other, with almost no space between them.
* Robert Ford/Jesse James (albeit more on the Ford to James side) in \\\'\\\'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'RepoTheGeneticOpera\\\'\\\' has distinct vibes between Nathan and his daughter [[IllGirl Shilo]]. And between Shilo and Graverobber. (Which is not incestuous, but not exactly healthy, either, given his profession.) And between all three of the Largo siblings (yes, even Pavi and Luigi). And even [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Rotti Largo]] and Shi. Still, Nathan/Shilo vibes have to top the heap.
* \\\'\\\'SonOfRambow\\\'\\\'. The whole [[MakeUpOrBreakUp break up-make up]] thing between Will and Lee Carter was a little too serious for the two 10-12 years old boys. Even more, Will kept mentioning that he wasn\\\'t allowed to see Lee Carter, as if they were two adults who had a serious, forbidden relationship.
* \\\'\\\'MuppetTreasureIsland\\\'\\\' has the most gay-for-Jim seeming version of [[TimCurry Long John Silver]] ever seen (including lines that wouldn\\\'t be out of place coming from a scorned lover), which is even creepier considering that unlike most modern films of the story, that version of Jim Hawkins is supposed to be still young enough to sing at least alto.
** Because Silver is \\\'\\\'[[TimCurry Tim]] [[TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Curry]].\\\'\\\'
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I also cut out anything that was just two names (like \\\"Valdor and Katayana, NoJustNo!\\\"), because that doesn\\\'t mean anything to most readers. Most of the examples I didn\\\'t know, a few I did, but we need details. There may be some good examples among the list, if anyone wants to expand on them and move them back.
(Btw, I\\\'ll try to rewrite and put the Harry Potter entry back, minus the cruft and with more elaboration. It was one of the \\\"X + Y = BigNo!\\\" entries, but since it\\\'s the page image...)
The third type was just the stuff that actually happened canonically. In that case, it\\\'s not subtext Yay, that\\\'s an official, albeit {{squicky}} couple.
All three tended to have lots of natter, and it might be possible to condense some of them down into a readable example. I just had so much to go through, I stopped trying to read through it all after the first few times...
EDIT: Okay, posting them all in one message \\\'\\\'breaks the page\\\'\\\'. o.O
I\\\'ll try it in three parts...
[[folder:Deletions Part 1]]
* [[BlackCat Train/Creed]]. Dear God, \\\'\\\'\\\'no\\\'\\\'\\\'. NoJustNo.
* \\\'\\\'NeonGenesisEvangelion\\\'\\\', as TropeOverdosed as it is, has a massive and very disturbing example of this. Gendo x Fuyutsuki. NightmareFuel is putting it mildly.
** Are we really forgetting [[ParentalIncest Gendo/Shinji]]? We\\\'re talking about a guy who forces his son to [[spoiler:\\\'enter\\\' his mom]].
*** Gendo has ambiguous behaviours towards Shinji in the LighterAndSofter adaptation \\\'\\\'IkariShinjiRaisingProject\\\'\\\'. When you love your teenage son so much you want to bear-hug him from behind, take a bath with him, and frolic half-naked in the sea with him, you may love him \\\'\\\'the wrong way\\\'\\\'.
*** Hell, [[CompleteMonster Gendo]] X Anybody [[spoiler:except Yui, and even then...]]
**** The fact that even the thought of Gendo with his own wife causes squick [[FreudWasRight was probably intentional]].
*** Is there an opposite to a LauncherOfAThousandShips? Because Gendo is it. And Orochimaru.
*** The hints that Gendo might\\\'ve been sexually involved with 14-year-old Rei Ayanami. And when you learn that he cloned her as a replacement for his dead wife. Then a certain scene in \\\'\\\'TheEndOfEvangelion\\\'\\\' occurs.
*** Basically, despite Gendo\\\'s reputation of being a ladies-man, it\\\'s not actually pleasant to THINK about his relationships.
** Shinji/[[spoiler:Yui]], especially in [[FreudWasRight a certain scene in the manga...]]
** For some fans, [[spoiler:Rei]]/Shinji and [[spoiler:Misato]]/Shinji is NoYay and for others it\\\'s FetishFuel.
*** As for [[spoiler:Rei/Shinji]], considering that they are technically siblings (or parent/child, depending on perspective), both the law and several million years of evolution and genetics are on the NoYay side, even in Japan.
*** Technically speaking, they are closer to being cousins than siblings, which isn\\\'t actually taboo in Japan. The whole being \\\'\\\'[[InterspeciesRomance half angel]]\\\'\\\' matter on the other hand......
*** So Its more like bestiality then incest?
**** [[GoldenMeanFallacy Who says it can\\\'t be both]]?
*** Then there\\\'s the \\\'\\\'[[RebuildOfEvangelion Rebuild 2.0]]\\\'\\\' revelation that Gendo \\\'\\\'[[spoiler: purposefully drove Shinji and Rei to merge together in a catastrophe that nearly causes TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]]\\\'\\\'.
* From \\\'\\\'CodeGeass\\\'\\\' how about [[PsychoLesbian Nina]] X [[CargoShip Table-kun]]?
** And, on that note, there\\\'s also [[PsychoLesbian Nina\\\'s attraction to Euphie]]...
*** What was wrong with that? It only became creepy after [[spoiler:Euphemia was dead.]]
** Or [[BrotherSisterIncest Lelouch/Nunnally]]? Lelouch/Euphemia, too.
** And Rolo\\\'s [[HoYay love]] for his brother Lelouch.
* \\\'\\\'{{Naruto}}\\\'\\\' has Orochimaru/Sasuke. And Orochimaru/Kabuto. And Orochimaru/Kimimaro.
** Really, Orochimaru with anyone.
** Let\\\'s not forget Guy/Rock Lee.
** Really, any student/teacher or older/much younger pairing fits this. From Kakashi/Sakura to Shikamaru/Kurenai.
** In \\\'\\\'[[{{Omake}} Konoha Gakuen Dan]]\\\'\\\', Orochimaru/Sasuke subtext becomes \\\'\\\'text\\\'\\\', as \\\"Orochimaruko\\\" is a transvestite who lusts after Sasuke, which {{Squick}}s Sakura, Hinata and Ino.
** For some, any pairing involving an Akatsuki can be NoYay.
*** Like Madara/Naruto.
*** Or [[MindRape Madara]]/[[FoodChainOfEvil Kyuubi]].
** Lord, Hidan/Kakuzu. Although his personality is funny and entertaining and all, Kakuzu, can be \\\'\\\'really\\\'\\\' [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/4/41/Kakuzu2.PNG ugly]]. (Having red sclerae, solid green pupils, and weird black stitch tentacles connecting his limbs and across his mouth, and his long, bushy hair?)
** Of course You mileage may vary
** Itachi/Sasuke is this to some.
** Kimimaro to Juugo:
--->\\\'\\\'\\\'Yes. I\\\'m going to absorb the enzyme from your body into my own.\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Squick}} Hell yes]].
** And the Kisame/Killerbee FoeYay.
** There\\\'s also some Chiyo/Sakura out there.
** Some fans have also had this reaction to Naruto calling his mother a \\\"babe\\\".
** Kyuubi/Naruto.
*** There is a lot of fanart and fanfic that turns the Kyuubi into a human female to get around the InterspeciesRomance aspect of the pairing. She usually ends up looking like Karin.
* \\\'\\\'FruitsBasket\\\'\\\': Akito/Yuki.
* Ed and Al from \\\'\\\'FullmetalAlchemist\\\'\\\'. Although some fans like to see their relationship as purely a bond between two brothers, it\\\'s hard not to think about other interpretations when you know about what goes on in that fandom. They also have a few ambiguous lines, especially in the anime (\\\"I want to remember how the heat of your body feels\\\" --> {{Facepalm}}).
** Also, Ed and [[spoiler:Alfons Heiderich]]. The supposed FoeYay between Ed and Envy is especially creepy in the anime since [[spoiler:Envy is a homunculus created from his half-brother]]. Let\\\'s not even get into the absurdly Oedipal overtones around [[spoiler:anime-only: Psyren]], [[spoiler:anime Sloth]] and of course Trisha.
** And in the manga, anything involving [[spoiler:Father]], especially the ridiculous amount of FoeYay and ambiguous lines between him and Hohenheim (admittedly, it could be a sort of messed-up and incredibly complex [[spoiler:brotherly or parent-child]] relation, but still...). Some fans would already consider said character and Hohenheim {{Squick}}y in themselves, but a recent chapter has [[spoiler:Father]] declare to Hohenheim [[spoiler:Slave #23... you gave me part of your body. This time you will become part of mine\\\"]] in a scene that looks incredibly [[spoiler:{{Twincest}}uous]]. [[http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/91/36/ Judge for yourselves]] and notice the nasty marks on [[spoiler:Father\\\'s neck]] for added ugliness.
** The first anime takes the NoYay [[UpToEleven so far]] that even the director and voice actors joked about Scar being in love with Al and coming in between the [[HoYay BroYay]], and Roy acting in a way that makes him seem lovestruck with Ed (particularly in TheMovie).
** On a lighter note: Major Alex Louis Armstrong X anyone, full stop.
** Oh, and Dante\\\'s [[GrandTheftMe scheme]] involving Rose at the end of the first anime. * Shudder* :
--->\\\'\\\'\\\"I want to be loved by the son of Hohenheim\\\"\\\'\\\'
*** To clarify: Her scheme at the end of the series involved taking Edward as her lover after transferring herself to Rose.
** And then there\\\'s the people who ship first anime [[CompleteMonster Kimblee]] and [[HollywoodCyborg Archer]]. Gross.
* Speaking of [[BrotherSisterIncest brotherly love]]... Togurocest in \\\'\\\'YuYuHakusho\\\'\\\'. Possibly because Younger Toguro is a very honorable, conservative person, Elder Toguro is a CompleteMonster, and, when people make fanworks of these two, it usually ends up [[TastesLikeDiabetes tasting like diabetes.]]
* Grell crushing on Sebastian in \\\'\\\'{{Kuroshitsuji}}\\\'\\\'. Also, the fandom hasn\\\'t taken the outcome of filler episode 8 too lightly.
** Which part? The Sebastian/[[BigFriendlyDog Pluto]] part or the Finnie/[[NinjaMaid Angela]] part?
** It\\\'s not as obviously No Yay as, say, Baron Kelvin/Ciel.
** While they are definitely in the minority, there are those who consider all the implied {{Shotacon}} between Ciel and [[strike:the pedo-demon]] Sebastian to be this trope.
*** It\\\'s certainly not helped when you watch/read with the knowledge that Sebastian is just killing time until he gets to devour Ciel\\\'s soul. This causes many of the lines in the HoYay page to come across more as NightmareFuel -tastic \\\'\\\'threats.\\\'\\\'
** Baron Kelvin and Ciel. Hinted very heavily to be canon (at least, on the [[UnrequitedLove Baron\\\'s side]]). Unfortunately, 1. Baron Kelvin is an old, \\\'\\\'ugly\\\'\\\', fat [[AxCrazy psycho]] and 2. Ciel is a [[CuteShotaroBoy beautiful little 12-year-old]]. \\\'\\\'Very NO\\\'\\\' when one finds out he became [[StalkerWithACrush obsessed]] with Ciel since Ciel was seven years old.
** The sex scene between Sebastian and Beast may be considered this, since most people would prefer him with Ciel.
** And the sex/rape scene between Alois/Jim and his \\\"father\\\" the Earl Trancy.
* \\\'\\\'{{Monster}}\\\'\\\': Tenma/Johan. That is all.
** Also, Roberto\\\'s homoerotic obsession/devotion towards Johan.
** Also, there\\\'s the flashback sex scene between Eva and Roberto. To make it even more squicky, it\\\'s entirely from Eva\\\'s POV, meaning the entirety of it is spent focusing on Roberto, who is a {{Gonk}} of the highest degree.
** Just the thought of Roberto having sex with anyone is {{Squick}}y. In the final episodes, Roberto has sex with a a much younger and very naive lady from a small town. It doesn\\\'t help that he goes right back to killing people after the act.
* \\\'\\\'ChronoCrusade\\\'\\\' seems practically built on this. One of the worst offenders is Joshua -- thanks to his [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity insanity caused by the demon horns on his head]] he can barely remember what his sister Rosette is like, but [[BrotherSisterIncest is obsessed with seeing her again]]. That\\\'s creepy enough, but he often mistakes Fiore for his sister -- and during his saner moments, their relationship can be seen as romantic. In fact, in the manga during their last farewells, Fiore requests that he call her \\\"Sis\\\" one last time.
** Aion/Chrono can be like this at times, too. In the manga, [[spoiler:Aion is really Chrono\\\'s twin brother, unknown to him]], and seems to care quite a bit for him. However, this didn\\\'t stop the anime adaptation from including a scene where [[HoYay Aion holds Chrono\\\'s face in his hands and leans so close while speaking to him that their lips are almost touching]]. Add to the fact that they\\\'re TheLancer and the BigBad, respectively, and [[spoiler:the fact that Aion\\\'s also \\\'\\\'\\\'obsessed with their mother\\\'\\\'\\\' and in the manga speaks fondly to Chrono \\\'\\\'while cradling her head\\\'\\\']] and you have scenes that are packed with HoYay, FoeYay and NoYay all at once.
** When you think about it, in the manga even Rizel\\\'s one-sided love for Aion and Jenai\\\'s one-sided love for her (both of which are \\\'\\\'canon\\\'\\\') can be creepy when you consider that all demons [[HiveQueen have the same mother]].
* In \\\'\\\'{{Saiyuki}}\\\'\\\', the canonical pairing of Gonou [[spoiler:(Hakkai)]]/Kanan is this for some fans. Usually newer ones, as remaining in Saiyuki fandom long enough lets people adjust to and accept just [[DysfunctionJunction how screwed-up the canon characters are]].
** And speaking of Saiyuki incest, [[spoiler:Dokugakuji (Jien)/his own mother]] is also canon, and seen as far more [[{{Squick}} squicky]].
* Hansel and Gretel in \\\'\\\'BlackLagoon\\\'\\\'. Not only is it explicit, it\\\'s the \\\'\\\'least\\\'\\\' disturbing thing about them.
** And yet they still reached the 3rd place in a list of Black Lagoon\\\'s most popular couples. Goes to show just \\\'\\\'how\\\'\\\' subjective this trope can be.
* \\\'\\\'{{Bleach}}\\\'\\\'. [[ParentalIncest Isshin/Ichigo]]. Eww.
** Kenpachi/Byakuya. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIKs8xO88ew This vid]] demonstrates it best.
--->\\\'\\\'\\\'Byakuya\\\'\\\'\\\': Time passed by quickly while I was all alone with Captain Zaraki.
----> And Zaraki\\\'s \\\'\\\'smile...\\\'\\\'
*** [[MemeticBadass It\\\'s OK if it\\\'s Kenpachi.]]
** Let\\\'s not forget good ol\\\' Ichigo/[[spoiler:Aizen]]. Now, pass me the {{Brain Bleach}} please, with no pun intended.
*** [[BaitTheDog S]][[KickTheDog U]][[ForTheEvulz R]][[PokeThePoodle P]][[http://www.mangareader.net/94-44833-14/bleach/chapter-388.html RISE!!!]]
**** [[BigNo Noooo!!!!]] Can\\\'t Unsee! Can\\\'t Unsee!
** Let\\\'s just say [[BattleButler Tesla]] has terrible taste in [[MemeticMolester men.]]
** Gin/Rukia. It\\\'s [[strike:pretty much]] {{canon}} that Gin scares the shit out of Rukia. When she was in Soul Society waiting her execution she stated that even if he wasn\\\'t talking to her she\\\'d get this ominous feeling like \\\"snakes were curling themselves around her\\\" and she could feel \\\"every bead of sweat\\\" on her body whenever he was in her \\\'\\\'mere presence\\\'\\\'. And of course, there\\\'s the fact that Gin was a total asshole and told her that he would save her from being executed before squashing her hopes down flat.
** Nnoitora/Orihime. It was made \\\'\\\'quite\\\'\\\' obvious in the Japanese version of the manga that he wanted to do \\\'\\\'[[RapeTropes that]]\\\'\\\' to her, but then Kubo had to get all [[http://www.mangareader.net/94-751-5/bleach/chapter-297.html symbolic]] and [[RapeAsDrama sub]][[IHaveYouNowMyPretty text-y]].
* Aoki/Rin from \\\'\\\'KodomoNoJikan\\\'\\\'. So much NoYay.
** Probably because this pairing [[{{Lolicon}} appeals]] to most of the fans.
*** Or perhaps it is because it\\\'s less disturbing than the other relationships joked about. Aoki seems to be the ButtMonkey for every {{Yaoi}} fantasy that\\\'s been referenced (as to be expected from the series ButtMonkey). Whether it\\\'s [[RapeIsFunnyWhenItIsMaleOnMale Kagami dreaming of raping him if she were a boy]], [[MistakenForGay the teachers and kids assuming that he\\\'s having an affair with Oyajima]], or even the [[GenderFlip gender-flipped fantasies of Houin]], very few people ever fantasize him with anyone that \\\'\\\'isn\\\'t\\\'\\\' a man. Those are more {{Squick}}y scenarios in my book. Even Reiji gets in on the joke:
---> Reiji: \\\"Are those flowers... for me?\\\"
** Also, Reiji/Rin.
* Frieza/Ginyu in \\\'\\\'{{Dragonball}}\\\'\\\'. The {{Squick}} [[PowerLevels Level]] [[MemeticMutation is over]] [[BeyondTheImpossible one million]].
** Nah, it\\\'s gotta be the Frieza/Goku FoeYay. Especially evident in the [[DubText US dub]] where he is voiced by a woman with a raspy old lady voice and uses blatant sexual innuendo towards Goku.
** Don\\\'t forget Majin Buu/Mr. Satan!
* [[DeathNote Ryuk/Light]]. [[BrainBleach What has been seen cannot be unseen.]]
** Misa/Rem. Which is actually canon on Rem\\\'s side at least.
** This Trooper\\\'s \\\'\\\'mom\\\'\\\' actually thought the idea of Misa/Rem was cute.
** There has been a Ryuk/Apple fanfic
*** Disturbing
** There is also L/Cake fanfic. No, [[{{Squick}} I\\\'m not linking it]].
*** [[{{Fetish Fuel}} Please?]]
*** I saw a bit of it. It was so hilariously squicky that I couldn\\\'t stop laughing.
** Near and Light. [[NoJustNo Just no.]]
** Hell, Light and L. God no.
* For many readers of \\\'\\\'MiraiNikki\\\'\\\', Yukiteru/Yuno. [[{{Yandere}} Guess why.]]
** They\\\'d be very cute together, if it wasn\\\'t for Yuno\\\'s aforementioned [[{{Yandere}} condition.]]
* \\\'\\\'SailorMoon\\\'\\\': Chiba Mamoru and Chibi-Usa. - [[ParentalIncest father and daughter]].
** Sailor Moon R didn\\\'t help matters.
** And Chibi-Usa and Helios, a least while he\\\'s still a horse.
* \\\'\\\'Mega Man\\\'\\\': Take your pick, really. The two that jump out are [[MegaManStarForce Geo/Omega-Xis]] and [[MegaManBattleNetwork Lan/Megaman]], the former of which is InterspeciesRomance and the latter of which is {{twincest}}. Both get some moments in the anime that come dangerously close to veering from HeterosexualLifePartners into HoYay.
* \\\'\\\'{{Paprika}}\\\'\\\': Osanai and the Chairman. It wouldn\\\'t be so bad if the Chairman wasn\\\'t an insane old guy.
* Seto Kaiba and Pegasus from \\\'\\\'{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}!\\\'\\\' fit nicely into this trope.
** How about Dark Malik and Malik (aka Yami Marik and Marik)? It\\\'s technically the only case of actual selfcest in the manga/anime...
* \\\'\\\'{{Ookamikakushi}}\\\'\\\': Issei\\\'s actions towards Hiroshi are downright creepy in episode 3.
* \\\'\\\'WolfGuyWolfenCrest\\\'\\\' has plenty Haguro/Chiba and Haguro/Inugami NoYay, of the HighOctaneNightmareFuel variety. Some would also consider Haguro\\\'s sexual relationship with Ryuuko, who is just \\\'\\\'made\\\'\\\' of FanDisservie to be this as well. As well as Ryuuko [[InLoveWithYourCarnage wanting to bang the strongest man alive]] which is either Haguro or Inugami.
* The \\\'\\\'{{Texhnolyze}}\\\'\\\' anime has a scene where Touyama and his father have sex. It\\\'s also implied that his father continually molested him when he was a child.
* In \\\'\\\'NabariNoOu\\\'\\\' there is a rather creepy scene where Hattori is practically hitting on Yoite - \\\"You really are diligent and smart... as well as beautiful.\\\"
* \\\'\\\'SakuraGari\\\'\\\' has Masataka/Katsuragi (probably because of the scene where Katsuragi rapes and tortures him), Souma/Katsuragi (because Katsuragi made Souma kill his mother when he was younger and later raped him), and Sakurako/Masataka.
* The (written after the {{Anime}})[=~Wolf\\\'s Rain~=] {{Manga}} had in the latter chapters the NauseaFuel and MoreThanMindControl that is [[spoiler:Lord Darcia 3rd]][=/=]Blue.
* [[UltimateMarvel Ultimate]] Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
** Oddly enough, the outcry really only came after it was made \\\'\\\'explicit\\\'\\\'. There\\\'s a lot to be said for subtlety.
* Captain Hook and Wendy in the 2003 \\\'\\\'PeterPan\\\'\\\', to a sometimes very uncomfortable degree.
** This actually follows an interpretation of the original story, in which Wendy had some Electra stuff going on. Hook is meant to symbolize her father, and in many versions (including the aforementioned film and the 1953 Disney animated version) is played by the same actor.
*** Actually, Barrie intended Hook to resemble Wendy\\\'s mother, same actress (yes, \\\'\\\'\\\'actress\\\'\\\'\\\') and everything. But the actor playing the father was rather well known and talented, so they put him in as Hook instead and it became tradition after a while. So yes, Hook is actually a representation of Wendy\\\'s mother. Think about [[{{Squick}} that]] the next time you\\\'re watching that movie.
*** One reviewer had less of a problem with Wendy\\\'s perceived infatuation than he did with what he saw as Hook\\\'s attraction to \\\'\\\'[[{{Lolicon}} her]].\\\'\\\' With shots like [[http://i55.tinypic.com/348g0wl.jpg this]], it\\\'s [[YourMileageMayVary not]] hard to see why so many reviewers were rather uncomfortable with the film at times.
* For many \\\'\\\'StarWars\\\'\\\' fans, the overt romantic intentions between Luke and Leia - who are siblings - in the first movie and the first half of the second.
** Note that before TheReveal they were the FanPreferredCouple.
* Henry and Mark in \\\'\\\'TheGoodSon\\\'\\\'. Even if they weren\\\'t children it would still be intensely creepy.
** Indeed, especially when they were glaring at each other, with almost no space between them.
* Robert Ford/Jesse James (albeit more on the Ford to James side) in \\\'\\\'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'RepoTheGeneticOpera\\\'\\\' has distinct vibes between Nathan and his daughter [[IllGirl Shilo]]. And between Shilo and Graverobber. (Which is not incestuous, but not exactly healthy, either, given his profession.) And between all three of the Largo siblings (yes, even Pavi and Luigi). And even [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Rotti Largo]] and Shi. Still, Nathan/Shilo vibes have to top the heap.
* \\\'\\\'SonOfRambow\\\'\\\'. The whole [[MakeUpOrBreakUp break up-make up]] thing between Will and Lee Carter was a little too serious for the two 10-12 years old boys. Even more, Will kept mentioning that he wasn\\\'t allowed to see Lee Carter, as if they were two adults who had a serious, forbidden relationship.
* \\\'\\\'MuppetTreasureIsland\\\'\\\' has the most gay-for-Jim seeming version of [[TimCurry Long John Silver]] ever seen (including lines that wouldn\\\'t be out of place coming from a scorned lover), which is even creepier considering that unlike most modern films of the story, that version of Jim Hawkins is supposed to be still young enough to sing at least alto.
** Because Silver is \\\'\\\'[[TimCurry Tim]] [[TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Curry]].\\\'\\\'
[[/folder]]
(Btw, I\\\'ll try to rewrite and put the Harry Potter entry back, minus the cruft and with more elaboration. It was one of the \\\"X + Y = BigNo!\\\" entries, but since it\\\'s the page image...)
The third type was just the stuff that actually happened canonically. In that case, it\\\'s not subtext Yay, that\\\'s an official, albeit {{squicky}} couple.
All three tended to have lots of natter, and it might be possible to condense some of them down into a readable example. I just had so much to go through, I stopped trying to read through it all after the first few times...
EDIT: Okay, posting them all in one message \\\'\\\'breaks the page\\\'\\\'. o.O
I\\\'ll try it in three parts...
[[folder:Deletions Part 1]]
* [[BlackCat Train/Creed]]. Dear God, \\\'\\\'\\\'no\\\'\\\'\\\'. NoJustNo.
* \\\'\\\'NeonGenesisEvangelion\\\'\\\', as TropeOverdosed as it is, has a massive and very disturbing example of this. Gendo x Fuyutsuki. NightmareFuel is putting it mildly.
** Are we really forgetting [[ParentalIncest Gendo/Shinji]]? We\\\'re talking about a guy who forces his son to [[spoiler:\\\'enter\\\' his mom]].
*** Gendo has ambiguous behaviours towards Shinji in the LighterAndSofter adaptation \\\'\\\'IkariShinjiRaisingProject\\\'\\\'. When you love your teenage son so much you want to bear-hug him from behind, take a bath with him, and frolic half-naked in the sea with him, you may love him \\\'\\\'the wrong way\\\'\\\'.
*** Hell, [[CompleteMonster Gendo]] X Anybody [[spoiler:except Yui, and even then...]]
**** The fact that even the thought of Gendo with his own wife causes squick [[FreudWasRight was probably intentional]].
*** Is there an opposite to a LauncherOfAThousandShips? Because Gendo is it. And Orochimaru.
*** The hints that Gendo might\\\'ve been sexually involved with 14-year-old Rei Ayanami. And when you learn that he cloned her as a replacement for his dead wife. Then a certain scene in \\\'\\\'TheEndOfEvangelion\\\'\\\' occurs.
*** Basically, despite Gendo\\\'s reputation of being a ladies-man, it\\\'s not actually pleasant to THINK about his relationships.
** Shinji/[[spoiler:Yui]], especially in [[FreudWasRight a certain scene in the manga...]]
** For some fans, [[spoiler:Rei]]/Shinji and [[spoiler:Misato]]/Shinji is NoYay and for others it\\\'s FetishFuel.
*** As for [[spoiler:Rei/Shinji]], considering that they are technically siblings (or parent/child, depending on perspective), both the law and several million years of evolution and genetics are on the NoYay side, even in Japan.
*** Technically speaking, they are closer to being cousins than siblings, which isn\\\'t actually taboo in Japan. The whole being \\\'\\\'[[InterspeciesRomance half angel]]\\\'\\\' matter on the other hand......
*** So Its more like bestiality then incest?
**** [[GoldenMeanFallacy Who says it can\\\'t be both]]?
*** Then there\\\'s the \\\'\\\'[[RebuildOfEvangelion Rebuild 2.0]]\\\'\\\' revelation that Gendo \\\'\\\'[[spoiler: purposefully drove Shinji and Rei to merge together in a catastrophe that nearly causes TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]]\\\'\\\'.
* From \\\'\\\'CodeGeass\\\'\\\' how about [[PsychoLesbian Nina]] X [[CargoShip Table-kun]]?
** And, on that note, there\\\'s also [[PsychoLesbian Nina\\\'s attraction to Euphie]]...
*** What was wrong with that? It only became creepy after [[spoiler:Euphemia was dead.]]
** Or [[BrotherSisterIncest Lelouch/Nunnally]]? Lelouch/Euphemia, too.
** And Rolo\\\'s [[HoYay love]] for his brother Lelouch.
* \\\'\\\'{{Naruto}}\\\'\\\' has Orochimaru/Sasuke. And Orochimaru/Kabuto. And Orochimaru/Kimimaro.
** Really, Orochimaru with anyone.
** Let\\\'s not forget Guy/Rock Lee.
** Really, any student/teacher or older/much younger pairing fits this. From Kakashi/Sakura to Shikamaru/Kurenai.
** In \\\'\\\'[[{{Omake}} Konoha Gakuen Dan]]\\\'\\\', Orochimaru/Sasuke subtext becomes \\\'\\\'text\\\'\\\', as \\\"Orochimaruko\\\" is a transvestite who lusts after Sasuke, which {{Squick}}s Sakura, Hinata and Ino.
** For some, any pairing involving an Akatsuki can be NoYay.
*** Like Madara/Naruto.
*** Or [[MindRape Madara]]/[[FoodChainOfEvil Kyuubi]].
** Lord, Hidan/Kakuzu. Although his personality is funny and entertaining and all, Kakuzu, can be \\\'\\\'really\\\'\\\' [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/4/41/Kakuzu2.PNG ugly]]. (Having red sclerae, solid green pupils, and weird black stitch tentacles connecting his limbs and across his mouth, and his long, bushy hair?)
** Of course You mileage may vary
** Itachi/Sasuke is this to some.
** Kimimaro to Juugo:
--->\\\'\\\'\\\'Yes. I\\\'m going to absorb the enzyme from your body into my own.\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Squick}} Hell yes]].
** And the Kisame/Killerbee FoeYay.
** There\\\'s also some Chiyo/Sakura out there.
** Some fans have also had this reaction to Naruto calling his mother a \\\"babe\\\".
** Kyuubi/Naruto.
*** There is a lot of fanart and fanfic that turns the Kyuubi into a human female to get around the InterspeciesRomance aspect of the pairing. She usually ends up looking like Karin.
* \\\'\\\'FruitsBasket\\\'\\\': Akito/Yuki.
* Ed and Al from \\\'\\\'FullmetalAlchemist\\\'\\\'. Although some fans like to see their relationship as purely a bond between two brothers, it\\\'s hard not to think about other interpretations when you know about what goes on in that fandom. They also have a few ambiguous lines, especially in the anime (\\\"I want to remember how the heat of your body feels\\\" --> {{Facepalm}}).
** Also, Ed and [[spoiler:Alfons Heiderich]]. The supposed FoeYay between Ed and Envy is especially creepy in the anime since [[spoiler:Envy is a homunculus created from his half-brother]]. Let\\\'s not even get into the absurdly Oedipal overtones around [[spoiler:anime-only: Psyren]], [[spoiler:anime Sloth]] and of course Trisha.
** And in the manga, anything involving [[spoiler:Father]], especially the ridiculous amount of FoeYay and ambiguous lines between him and Hohenheim (admittedly, it could be a sort of messed-up and incredibly complex [[spoiler:brotherly or parent-child]] relation, but still...). Some fans would already consider said character and Hohenheim {{Squick}}y in themselves, but a recent chapter has [[spoiler:Father]] declare to Hohenheim [[spoiler:Slave #23... you gave me part of your body. This time you will become part of mine\\\"]] in a scene that looks incredibly [[spoiler:{{Twincest}}uous]]. [[http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/91/36/ Judge for yourselves]] and notice the nasty marks on [[spoiler:Father\\\'s neck]] for added ugliness.
** The first anime takes the NoYay [[UpToEleven so far]] that even the director and voice actors joked about Scar being in love with Al and coming in between the [[HoYay BroYay]], and Roy acting in a way that makes him seem lovestruck with Ed (particularly in TheMovie).
** On a lighter note: Major Alex Louis Armstrong X anyone, full stop.
** Oh, and Dante\\\'s [[GrandTheftMe scheme]] involving Rose at the end of the first anime. * Shudder* :
--->\\\'\\\'\\\"I want to be loved by the son of Hohenheim\\\"\\\'\\\'
*** To clarify: Her scheme at the end of the series involved taking Edward as her lover after transferring herself to Rose.
** And then there\\\'s the people who ship first anime [[CompleteMonster Kimblee]] and [[HollywoodCyborg Archer]]. Gross.
* Speaking of [[BrotherSisterIncest brotherly love]]... Togurocest in \\\'\\\'YuYuHakusho\\\'\\\'. Possibly because Younger Toguro is a very honorable, conservative person, Elder Toguro is a CompleteMonster, and, when people make fanworks of these two, it usually ends up [[TastesLikeDiabetes tasting like diabetes.]]
* Grell crushing on Sebastian in \\\'\\\'{{Kuroshitsuji}}\\\'\\\'. Also, the fandom hasn\\\'t taken the outcome of filler episode 8 too lightly.
** Which part? The Sebastian/[[BigFriendlyDog Pluto]] part or the Finnie/[[NinjaMaid Angela]] part?
** It\\\'s not as obviously No Yay as, say, Baron Kelvin/Ciel.
** While they are definitely in the minority, there are those who consider all the implied {{Shotacon}} between Ciel and [[strike:the pedo-demon]] Sebastian to be this trope.
*** It\\\'s certainly not helped when you watch/read with the knowledge that Sebastian is just killing time until he gets to devour Ciel\\\'s soul. This causes many of the lines in the HoYay page to come across more as NightmareFuel -tastic \\\'\\\'threats.\\\'\\\'
** Baron Kelvin and Ciel. Hinted very heavily to be canon (at least, on the [[UnrequitedLove Baron\\\'s side]]). Unfortunately, 1. Baron Kelvin is an old, \\\'\\\'ugly\\\'\\\', fat [[AxCrazy psycho]] and 2. Ciel is a [[CuteShotaroBoy beautiful little 12-year-old]]. \\\'\\\'Very NO\\\'\\\' when one finds out he became [[StalkerWithACrush obsessed]] with Ciel since Ciel was seven years old.
** The sex scene between Sebastian and Beast may be considered this, since most people would prefer him with Ciel.
** And the sex/rape scene between Alois/Jim and his \\\"father\\\" the Earl Trancy.
* \\\'\\\'{{Monster}}\\\'\\\': Tenma/Johan. That is all.
** Also, Roberto\\\'s homoerotic obsession/devotion towards Johan.
** Also, there\\\'s the flashback sex scene between Eva and Roberto. To make it even more squicky, it\\\'s entirely from Eva\\\'s POV, meaning the entirety of it is spent focusing on Roberto, who is a {{Gonk}} of the highest degree.
** Just the thought of Roberto having sex with anyone is {{Squick}}y. In the final episodes, Roberto has sex with a a much younger and very naive lady from a small town. It doesn\\\'t help that he goes right back to killing people after the act.
* \\\'\\\'ChronoCrusade\\\'\\\' seems practically built on this. One of the worst offenders is Joshua -- thanks to his [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity insanity caused by the demon horns on his head]] he can barely remember what his sister Rosette is like, but [[BrotherSisterIncest is obsessed with seeing her again]]. That\\\'s creepy enough, but he often mistakes Fiore for his sister -- and during his saner moments, their relationship can be seen as romantic. In fact, in the manga during their last farewells, Fiore requests that he call her \\\"Sis\\\" one last time.
** Aion/Chrono can be like this at times, too. In the manga, [[spoiler:Aion is really Chrono\\\'s twin brother, unknown to him]], and seems to care quite a bit for him. However, this didn\\\'t stop the anime adaptation from including a scene where [[HoYay Aion holds Chrono\\\'s face in his hands and leans so close while speaking to him that their lips are almost touching]]. Add to the fact that they\\\'re TheLancer and the BigBad, respectively, and [[spoiler:the fact that Aion\\\'s also \\\'\\\'\\\'obsessed with their mother\\\'\\\'\\\' and in the manga speaks fondly to Chrono \\\'\\\'while cradling her head\\\'\\\']] and you have scenes that are packed with HoYay, FoeYay and NoYay all at once.
** When you think about it, in the manga even Rizel\\\'s one-sided love for Aion and Jenai\\\'s one-sided love for her (both of which are \\\'\\\'canon\\\'\\\') can be creepy when you consider that all demons [[HiveQueen have the same mother]].
* In \\\'\\\'{{Saiyuki}}\\\'\\\', the canonical pairing of Gonou [[spoiler:(Hakkai)]]/Kanan is this for some fans. Usually newer ones, as remaining in Saiyuki fandom long enough lets people adjust to and accept just [[DysfunctionJunction how screwed-up the canon characters are]].
** And speaking of Saiyuki incest, [[spoiler:Dokugakuji (Jien)/his own mother]] is also canon, and seen as far more [[{{Squick}} squicky]].
* Hansel and Gretel in \\\'\\\'BlackLagoon\\\'\\\'. Not only is it explicit, it\\\'s the \\\'\\\'least\\\'\\\' disturbing thing about them.
** And yet they still reached the 3rd place in a list of Black Lagoon\\\'s most popular couples. Goes to show just \\\'\\\'how\\\'\\\' subjective this trope can be.
* \\\'\\\'{{Bleach}}\\\'\\\'. [[ParentalIncest Isshin/Ichigo]]. Eww.
** Kenpachi/Byakuya. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIKs8xO88ew This vid]] demonstrates it best.
--->\\\'\\\'\\\'Byakuya\\\'\\\'\\\': Time passed by quickly while I was all alone with Captain Zaraki.
----> And Zaraki\\\'s \\\'\\\'smile...\\\'\\\'
*** [[MemeticBadass It\\\'s OK if it\\\'s Kenpachi.]]
** Let\\\'s not forget good ol\\\' Ichigo/[[spoiler:Aizen]]. Now, pass me the {{Brain Bleach}} please, with no pun intended.
*** [[BaitTheDog S]][[KickTheDog U]][[ForTheEvulz R]][[PokeThePoodle P]][[http://www.mangareader.net/94-44833-14/bleach/chapter-388.html RISE!!!]]
**** [[BigNo Noooo!!!!]] Can\\\'t Unsee! Can\\\'t Unsee!
** Let\\\'s just say [[BattleButler Tesla]] has terrible taste in [[MemeticMolester men.]]
** Gin/Rukia. It\\\'s [[strike:pretty much]] {{canon}} that Gin scares the shit out of Rukia. When she was in Soul Society waiting her execution she stated that even if he wasn\\\'t talking to her she\\\'d get this ominous feeling like \\\"snakes were curling themselves around her\\\" and she could feel \\\"every bead of sweat\\\" on her body whenever he was in her \\\'\\\'mere presence\\\'\\\'. And of course, there\\\'s the fact that Gin was a total asshole and told her that he would save her from being executed before squashing her hopes down flat.
** Nnoitora/Orihime. It was made \\\'\\\'quite\\\'\\\' obvious in the Japanese version of the manga that he wanted to do \\\'\\\'[[RapeTropes that]]\\\'\\\' to her, but then Kubo had to get all [[http://www.mangareader.net/94-751-5/bleach/chapter-297.html symbolic]] and [[RapeAsDrama sub]][[IHaveYouNowMyPretty text-y]].
* Aoki/Rin from \\\'\\\'KodomoNoJikan\\\'\\\'. So much NoYay.
** Probably because this pairing [[{{Lolicon}} appeals]] to most of the fans.
*** Or perhaps it is because it\\\'s less disturbing than the other relationships joked about. Aoki seems to be the ButtMonkey for every {{Yaoi}} fantasy that\\\'s been referenced (as to be expected from the series ButtMonkey). Whether it\\\'s [[RapeIsFunnyWhenItIsMaleOnMale Kagami dreaming of raping him if she were a boy]], [[MistakenForGay the teachers and kids assuming that he\\\'s having an affair with Oyajima]], or even the [[GenderFlip gender-flipped fantasies of Houin]], very few people ever fantasize him with anyone that \\\'\\\'isn\\\'t\\\'\\\' a man. Those are more {{Squick}}y scenarios in my book. Even Reiji gets in on the joke:
---> Reiji: \\\"Are those flowers... for me?\\\"
** Also, Reiji/Rin.
* Frieza/Ginyu in \\\'\\\'{{Dragonball}}\\\'\\\'. The {{Squick}} [[PowerLevels Level]] [[MemeticMutation is over]] [[BeyondTheImpossible one million]].
** Nah, it\\\'s gotta be the Frieza/Goku FoeYay. Especially evident in the [[DubText US dub]] where he is voiced by a woman with a raspy old lady voice and uses blatant sexual innuendo towards Goku.
** Don\\\'t forget Majin Buu/Mr. Satan!
* [[DeathNote Ryuk/Light]]. [[BrainBleach What has been seen cannot be unseen.]]
** Misa/Rem. Which is actually canon on Rem\\\'s side at least.
** This Trooper\\\'s \\\'\\\'mom\\\'\\\' actually thought the idea of Misa/Rem was cute.
** There has been a Ryuk/Apple fanfic
*** Disturbing
** There is also L/Cake fanfic. No, [[{{Squick}} I\\\'m not linking it]].
*** [[{{Fetish Fuel}} Please?]]
*** I saw a bit of it. It was so hilariously squicky that I couldn\\\'t stop laughing.
** Near and Light. [[NoJustNo Just no.]]
** Hell, Light and L. God no.
* For many readers of \\\'\\\'MiraiNikki\\\'\\\', Yukiteru/Yuno. [[{{Yandere}} Guess why.]]
** They\\\'d be very cute together, if it wasn\\\'t for Yuno\\\'s aforementioned [[{{Yandere}} condition.]]
* \\\'\\\'SailorMoon\\\'\\\': Chiba Mamoru and Chibi-Usa. - [[ParentalIncest father and daughter]].
** Sailor Moon R didn\\\'t help matters.
** And Chibi-Usa and Helios, a least while he\\\'s still a horse.
* \\\'\\\'Mega Man\\\'\\\': Take your pick, really. The two that jump out are [[MegaManStarForce Geo/Omega-Xis]] and [[MegaManBattleNetwork Lan/Megaman]], the former of which is InterspeciesRomance and the latter of which is {{twincest}}. Both get some moments in the anime that come dangerously close to veering from HeterosexualLifePartners into HoYay.
* \\\'\\\'{{Paprika}}\\\'\\\': Osanai and the Chairman. It wouldn\\\'t be so bad if the Chairman wasn\\\'t an insane old guy.
* Seto Kaiba and Pegasus from \\\'\\\'{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}!\\\'\\\' fit nicely into this trope.
** How about Dark Malik and Malik (aka Yami Marik and Marik)? It\\\'s technically the only case of actual selfcest in the manga/anime...
* \\\'\\\'{{Ookamikakushi}}\\\'\\\': Issei\\\'s actions towards Hiroshi are downright creepy in episode 3.
* \\\'\\\'WolfGuyWolfenCrest\\\'\\\' has plenty Haguro/Chiba and Haguro/Inugami NoYay, of the HighOctaneNightmareFuel variety. Some would also consider Haguro\\\'s sexual relationship with Ryuuko, who is just \\\'\\\'made\\\'\\\' of FanDisservie to be this as well. As well as Ryuuko [[InLoveWithYourCarnage wanting to bang the strongest man alive]] which is either Haguro or Inugami.
* The \\\'\\\'{{Texhnolyze}}\\\'\\\' anime has a scene where Touyama and his father have sex. It\\\'s also implied that his father continually molested him when he was a child.
* In \\\'\\\'NabariNoOu\\\'\\\' there is a rather creepy scene where Hattori is practically hitting on Yoite - \\\"You really are diligent and smart... as well as beautiful.\\\"
* \\\'\\\'SakuraGari\\\'\\\' has Masataka/Katsuragi (probably because of the scene where Katsuragi rapes and tortures him), Souma/Katsuragi (because Katsuragi made Souma kill his mother when he was younger and later raped him), and Sakurako/Masataka.
* The (written after the {{Anime}})[=~Wolf\\\'s Rain~=] {{Manga}} had in the latter chapters the NauseaFuel and MoreThanMindControl that is [[spoiler:Lord Darcia 3rd]][=/=]Blue.
* [[UltimateMarvel Ultimate]] Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
** Oddly enough, the outcry really only came after it was made \\\'\\\'explicit\\\'\\\'. There\\\'s a lot to be said for subtlety.
* Captain Hook and Wendy in the 2003 \\\'\\\'PeterPan\\\'\\\', to a sometimes very uncomfortable degree.
** This actually follows an interpretation of the original story, in which Wendy had some Electra stuff going on. Hook is meant to symbolize her father, and in many versions (including the aforementioned film and the 1953 Disney animated version) is played by the same actor.
*** Actually, Barrie intended Hook to resemble Wendy\\\'s mother, same actress (yes, \\\'\\\'\\\'actress\\\'\\\'\\\') and everything. But the actor playing the father was rather well known and talented, so they put him in as Hook instead and it became tradition after a while. So yes, Hook is actually a representation of Wendy\\\'s mother. Think about [[{{Squick}} that]] the next time you\\\'re watching that movie.
*** One reviewer had less of a problem with Wendy\\\'s perceived infatuation than he did with what he saw as Hook\\\'s attraction to \\\'\\\'[[{{Lolicon}} her]].\\\'\\\' With shots like [[http://i55.tinypic.com/348g0wl.jpg this]], it\\\'s [[YourMileageMayVary not]] hard to see why so many reviewers were rather uncomfortable with the film at times.
* For many \\\'\\\'StarWars\\\'\\\' fans, the overt romantic intentions between Luke and Leia - who are siblings - in the first movie and the first half of the second.
** Note that before TheReveal they were the FanPreferredCouple.
* Henry and Mark in \\\'\\\'TheGoodSon\\\'\\\'. Even if they weren\\\'t children it would still be intensely creepy.
** Indeed, especially when they were glaring at each other, with almost no space between them.
* Robert Ford/Jesse James (albeit more on the Ford to James side) in \\\'\\\'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'RepoTheGeneticOpera\\\'\\\' has distinct vibes between Nathan and his daughter [[IllGirl Shilo]]. And between Shilo and Graverobber. (Which is not incestuous, but not exactly healthy, either, given his profession.) And between all three of the Largo siblings (yes, even Pavi and Luigi). And even [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Rotti Largo]] and Shi. Still, Nathan/Shilo vibes have to top the heap.
* \\\'\\\'SonOfRambow\\\'\\\'. The whole [[MakeUpOrBreakUp break up-make up]] thing between Will and Lee Carter was a little too serious for the two 10-12 years old boys. Even more, Will kept mentioning that he wasn\\\'t allowed to see Lee Carter, as if they were two adults who had a serious, forbidden relationship.
* \\\'\\\'MuppetTreasureIsland\\\'\\\' has the most gay-for-Jim seeming version of [[TimCurry Long John Silver]] ever seen (including lines that wouldn\\\'t be out of place coming from a scorned lover), which is even creepier considering that unlike most modern films of the story, that version of Jim Hawkins is supposed to be still young enough to sing at least alto.
** Because Silver is \\\'\\\'[[TimCurry Tim]] [[TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Curry]].\\\'\\\'
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