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VolkovTheTerrible
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what us this even supposed to be about? why would you write something so sudden like this about a show? Just to mock it? Or to mock the people working on it?
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what is this even supposed to be about? why would you write something so sudden like this about a show? Just to mock it? Or to mock the people working on it?
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That trope is intended to be a way of looking at a character from multiple interpretations about precisely who they are and what makes them tick. However, one of the key requirements of the trope is \
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That trope is intended to be a way of looking at a character from multiple interpretations about precisely who they are and what makes them tick. However, one of the key requirements of the trope is \\\"as long as the facts are accounted for, nobody is too badly hurt.\\\"
The challenge with this example is too much of its premise is based on speculation and not facts presented in the movie.
Consider:
1) \\\"The Incredibles\\\" is clearly set in an alternate universe that is similar to but not an exact analog to ours. For example, we didn\\\'t have [=VCRs=] in classrooms and computers on business desks in the 60s. Therefore we can\\\'t make assumptions that their social development exactly tracked with ours and the movie provides no clear facts regarding this. So, \\\"being set in the 60s\\\" effectively tells us nothing.
2) We don\\\'t know anything about their Civil Rights movement. Is it currently going on? Has it been going on for decades? Did they even need one? There will always be prejudice in society but the Civil Rights Movement on our world was fighting against institutionalized racism but their society may have developed differently. Again, we have no clear facts regarding this.
3) The NSA records were provided more for fun than complete accuracy. Yes, Frozone is the only African America listed among the 40+ entries, but is that an indication of racial profiling implying some kind of \\\"glass ceiling\\\" for black superheros or is it because the \\\"superhero gene\\\" is less common in the African genotype which resulted in few black heroes to begin with?
4) The cartoon \\\"Mr Incredible and Pals\\\" short has commentary provided by Craig Nelson (Mr. Incredible) and Samuel Jackson (Frozone). The premise is that they are sitting down to watch the cartoon short for the first time and behind the scenes info has said the recording session had a very improvisational feel to it. Frozone comments that \\\"The black superhero gets caught\\\" and that his own character looks more tan than black. However, one can only speculate how much Sam Jackson\\\'s comments reflect racism, prejudice or just a poor, shoddy, cheaply made cartoon.
Ultimately, the example is full of speculation on what things might mean but no facts are actually presented in the film on how \\\"The Incredibles\\\" world has dealt with issues like racism.
Therefore it\\\'s not really a good example because it\\\'s not possible to discuss or debate its content because it lacks a foundation to allow us to truly play around with the idea that Frozone could have been a civil rights vanguard in his world.
The challenge with this example is too much of its premise is based on speculation and not facts presented in the movie.
Consider:
1) \\\"The Incredibles\\\" is clearly set in an alternate universe that is similar to but not an exact analog to ours. For example, we didn\\\'t have [=VCRs=] in classrooms and computers on business desks in the 60s. Therefore we can\\\'t make assumptions that their social development exactly tracked with ours and the movie provides no clear facts regarding this. So, \\\"being set in the 60s\\\" effectively tells us nothing.
2) We don\\\'t know anything about their Civil Rights movement. Is it currently going on? Has it been going on for decades? Did they even need one? There will always be prejudice in society but the Civil Rights Movement on our world was fighting against institutionalized racism but their society may have developed differently. Again, we have no clear facts regarding this.
3) The NSA records were provided more for fun than complete accuracy. Yes, Frozone is the only African America listed among the 40+ entries, but is that an indication of racial profiling implying some kind of \\\"glass ceiling\\\" for black superheros or is it because the \\\"superhero gene\\\" is less common in the African genotype which resulted in few black heroes to begin with?
4) The cartoon \\\"Mr Incredible and Pals\\\" short has commentary provided by Craig Nelson (Mr. Incredible) and Samuel Jackson (Frozone). The premise is that they are sitting down to watch the cartoon short for the first time and behind the scenes info has said the recording session had a very improvisational feel to it. Frozone comments that \\\"The black superhero gets caught\\\" and that his own character looks more tan than black. However, one can only speculate how much Sam Jackson\\\'s comments reflect racism, prejudice or just a poor, shoddy, cheaply made cartoon.
Ultimately, the example is full of speculation on what things might mean but no facts are actually presented in the film on how \\\"The Incredibles\\\" world has dealt with issues like racism.
Therefore it\\\'s not really a good example because it\\\'s not possible to discuss or debate its content because it lacks a foundation to allow us to truly play around with the idea that Frozone could have been a civil rights vanguard in his world.
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It includes the following edit reason that almost feels like a challenge.
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It includes the following edit reason:
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That trope is intended to be a way of looking at a character from multiple interpretations about precisely who they are and what makes them tick. However, one of the key requirements of the trope is \
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That trope is intended to be a way of looking at a character from multiple interpretations about precisely who they are and what makes them tick. However, one of the key requirements of the trope is \\\"as long as the facts are accounted for, nobody is too badly hurt.\\\"
The challenge with this example is too much of its premise is based on speculation and not facts presented in the movie.
Consider:
1) \\\"The Incredibles\\\" is clearly set in an alternate universe that is similar to ours but not an exact analog to ours. For example, we didn\\\'t have VCRs in classrooms and computers on business desks in the 60s. Therefore we can\\\'t make assumptions that their social development exactly tracked with ours and the movie provides no clear facts regarding this. So, \\\"being set in the 60s\\\" effectively tells us nothing.
2) We don\\\'t know anything about their Civil Rights movement. Is it currently going on? Has it been going on for decades? Did they even need one? There will always be prejudice in society but the Civil Rights Movement on our world was fighting against institutionalized racism but their society may have developed differently. Again, we have no clear facts regarding this.
3) The NSA records were provided more for fun than complete accuracy. Yes, Frozone is the only African America listed among the 40+ entries, but is that an indication of racial profiling implying some kind of \\\"glass ceiling\\\" for black superheros or is it because the \\\"superhero gene\\\" is less common in the African genotype which resulted in few black heroes to begin with?
4) The cartoon \\\"Mr Incredible and Pals\\\" short has commentary provided by Craig Nelson (Mr. Incredible) and Samuel Jackson (Frozone). The premise is that they are sitting down to watch the cartoon short for the first time and behind the scenes info has said the recording session had a very improvisational feel to it. Frozone comments that \\\"The black superhero gets caught\\\" and that his own character looks more tan than black. However, one can only speculate how much Sam Jackson\\\'s comments reflect racism, prejudice or just a poor, shoddy, cheaply made cartoon.
Ultimately, the example is full of speculation on what things might mean but no facts are actually presented in the film on how \\\"The Incredibles\\\" world has dealt with issues like racism.
Therefore it\\\'s not really a good example because it\\\'s not possible to discuss or debate its content because it lacks a foundation to allow us to truly play around with the idea that Frozone could have been a civil rights vanguard in his world.
The challenge with this example is too much of its premise is based on speculation and not facts presented in the movie.
Consider:
1) \\\"The Incredibles\\\" is clearly set in an alternate universe that is similar to ours but not an exact analog to ours. For example, we didn\\\'t have VCRs in classrooms and computers on business desks in the 60s. Therefore we can\\\'t make assumptions that their social development exactly tracked with ours and the movie provides no clear facts regarding this. So, \\\"being set in the 60s\\\" effectively tells us nothing.
2) We don\\\'t know anything about their Civil Rights movement. Is it currently going on? Has it been going on for decades? Did they even need one? There will always be prejudice in society but the Civil Rights Movement on our world was fighting against institutionalized racism but their society may have developed differently. Again, we have no clear facts regarding this.
3) The NSA records were provided more for fun than complete accuracy. Yes, Frozone is the only African America listed among the 40+ entries, but is that an indication of racial profiling implying some kind of \\\"glass ceiling\\\" for black superheros or is it because the \\\"superhero gene\\\" is less common in the African genotype which resulted in few black heroes to begin with?
4) The cartoon \\\"Mr Incredible and Pals\\\" short has commentary provided by Craig Nelson (Mr. Incredible) and Samuel Jackson (Frozone). The premise is that they are sitting down to watch the cartoon short for the first time and behind the scenes info has said the recording session had a very improvisational feel to it. Frozone comments that \\\"The black superhero gets caught\\\" and that his own character looks more tan than black. However, one can only speculate how much Sam Jackson\\\'s comments reflect racism, prejudice or just a poor, shoddy, cheaply made cartoon.
Ultimately, the example is full of speculation on what things might mean but no facts are actually presented in the film on how \\\"The Incredibles\\\" world has dealt with issues like racism.
Therefore it\\\'s not really a good example because it\\\'s not possible to discuss or debate its content because it lacks a foundation to allow us to truly play around with the idea that Frozone could have been a civil rights vanguard in his world.
