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[009] Eievie Current Version

28th Dec '23 at 09:10:19 PM

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* \'\'\'Summery:\'\'\' My objection to this example is that it hinges on a ridiculous and implausible strawman. An audience expecting and wanting this trope to \'\'such a degree\'\' that not including it would noticeably harm a work\'s popularity/marketability is just so far outside the realm of reality that it doesn\'t make sense.

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What have you done to either address this concern, or argue that the concern is incorrect? I\'m \'\'not\'\' seeing anyone in that thread say either it\'s a good example or that my objection was unfounded.

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My objection to this example is that it hinges on a ridiculous and implausible strawman. An audience expecting and wanting this trope to \\\'\\\'such a degree\\\'\\\' that not including it would noticeably harm a work\\\'s popularity or marketability is just so far outside the realm of reality that it doesn\\\'t make sense.

What have you done to either address this concern, or argue that the concern is incorrect? I\\\'m \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' seeing anyone in that thread saying either it\\\'s a good example or that my objection was unfounded.

It doesn\\\'t matter whether I personally like the example, but the example \\\'\\\'does\\\'\\\' need to serve the function of a Playing With page. If it\\\'s implausible, then it fails to show what an enforced example of this trope might \\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\' look like.

[008] Eievie

28th Dec '23 at 08:45:07 PM

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* \\\'\\\'\\\'History:\\\'\\\'\\\' [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=hp4oeto7k70jb5g02jmus1de#comment-8y657ce781c4618 last time we discussed this]]
* \\\'\\\'\\\'Summery:\\\'\\\'\\\' My objection to this example is that it hinges on a ridiculous and implausible strawman. An audience expecting and wanting this trope to \\\'\\\'such a degree\\\'\\\' that not including it would noticeably harm a work\\\'s popularity/marketability is just so far outside the realm of reality that it doesn\\\'t make sense.

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\'\'\'History:\'\'\' [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=hp4oeto7k70jb5g02jmus1de#comment-8y657ce781c4618 last time we discussed this]]

\'\'\'Summery:\'\'\' my objection to this example is that it hinges on a ridiculous and implausible strawman. An audience expecting and wanting this trope to \'\'such a degree\'\' that not including it would noticeably harm a work\'s popularity/marketability is just so far outside the realm of reality that it doesn\'t make sense.

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[007] Eievie

28th Dec '23 at 08:44:16 PM

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[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=hp4oeto7k70jb5g02jmus1de#comment-8y657ce781c4618 last time we discussed this]]

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\\\'\\\'\\\'History:\\\'\\\'\\\' [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=hp4oeto7k70jb5g02jmus1de#comment-8y657ce781c4618 last time we discussed this]]

[006] Eievie

28th Dec '23 at 08:43:52 PM

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->The writer knows full well that this trope is mostly a myth, but wrote it into Alice\'s first time anyway [[TheCoconutEffect because they believed audiences expect it]].

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!!!Recap:

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As I said [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=hp4oeto7k70jb5g02jmus1de#comment-8y657ce781c4618 last time we discussed this]], my objection to this example is that it hinges on a ridiculous and implausible strawman. An audience expecting and wanting this trope to \'\'such a degree\'\' that not including it would noticeably harm a work\'s popularity/marketability is just so far outside the realm of reality that it doesn\'t make sense.

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\\\'\\\'\\\'Example:\\\'\\\'\\\'
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[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=hp4oeto7k70jb5g02jmus1de#comment-8y657ce781c4618 last time we discussed this]]

\\\'\\\'\\\'Summery:\\\'\\\'\\\' my objection to this example is that it hinges on a ridiculous and implausible strawman. An audience expecting and wanting this trope to \\\'\\\'such a degree\\\'\\\' that not including it would noticeably harm a work\\\'s popularity/marketability is just so far outside the realm of reality that it doesn\\\'t make sense.

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[005] Eievie

28th Dec '23 at 08:35:32 PM

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I\'m sorry I initially articulated my concern poorly. My bad. But as I said [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=hp4oeto7k70jb5g02jmus1de#comment-8y657ce781c4618 last time we discussed this]], my objection to this example is that it hinges on a ridiculous and implausible strawman. The audience expecting and wanting this trope to \'\'such a degree\'\' that not including it would noticeably harm a work\'s popularity/marketability is just so far outside the realm of reality that it doesn\'t make sense.

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As I said [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=hp4oeto7k70jb5g02jmus1de#comment-8y657ce781c4618 last time we discussed this]], my objection to this example is that it hinges on a ridiculous and implausible strawman. An audience expecting and wanting this trope to \\\'\\\'such a degree\\\'\\\' that not including it would noticeably harm a work\\\'s popularity/marketability is just so far outside the realm of reality that it doesn\\\'t make sense.

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What have you done to either address this concern, or argue that the concern is incorrect? I\'m \'\'not\'\' seeing anyone that thread say either it\'s a good example or that my objection was unfounded.

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What have you done to either address this concern, or argue that the concern is incorrect? I\\\'m \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' seeing anyone in that thread say either it\\\'s a good example or that my objection was unfounded.

[004] Eievie

28th Dec '23 at 08:32:43 PM

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I\'m sorry I initially articulated my concern poorly. My bad. But as I said [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=hp4oeto7k70jb5g02jmus1de#comment-8y657ce781c4618 last time we discussed this]], my objection to this example is that it hinges on a ridiculous and implausible strawman. The audience expecting and wanting this trope to \'\'such a degree\'\' that not including it would noticeably harm a work\'s popularity/marketability is so just far outside the realm of reality that it doesn\'t make sense.

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I\\\'m sorry I initially articulated my concern poorly. My bad. But as I said [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=hp4oeto7k70jb5g02jmus1de#comment-8y657ce781c4618 last time we discussed this]], my objection to this example is that it hinges on a ridiculous and implausible strawman. The audience expecting and wanting this trope to \\\'\\\'such a degree\\\'\\\' that not including it would noticeably harm a work\\\'s popularity/marketability is just so far outside the realm of reality that it doesn\\\'t make sense.

[003] Eievie

28th Dec '23 at 08:31:46 PM

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What have you done to either address this concern, or argue that the concern is incorrect? I\'m \'\'not\'\' seeing any that thread claim it\'s a good example, or that my objection was unfounded.

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What have you done to either address this concern, or argue that the concern is incorrect? I\\\'m \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' seeing anyone that thread say either it\\\'s a good example or that my objection was unfounded.

[002] Eievie

28th Dec '23 at 08:30:49 PM

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What have you done to either address this concern, or argue that the concern is incorrect?

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What have you done to either address this concern, or argue that the concern is incorrect? I\\\'m \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' seeing any that thread claim it\\\'s a good example, or that my objection was unfounded.

[001] Eievie

28th Dec '23 at 08:29:12 PM

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What have you done to either address this concern, or argue that the concern is incorrect?

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